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2013-06-27 11:52:44 AM  

Ricardo Klement: Ah, the perils of outsourcing.  Why would you go yourself?  Send some underling whose life can be miserable FOR you.


Doing it yourself is free.  Hiring a middle man means you have to pay someone else money.
 
2013-06-27 11:58:28 AM  
How's that outsourcing working out for you?
 
2013-06-27 12:04:01 PM  

Ricardo Klement: cefm: "It is not rare in China for managers to be held by workers demanding back pay or other benefits, often from their Chinese owners. Police are reluctant to intervene, as they consider it a business dispute"

A business dispute is one in which the parties make demands of each other through the courts.  A kidnapping or robbery is when one or more people use physical force or the threat of physical force to unlawfully detain someone demanding money in exchange for their release.

If this is "normal" where you do business, stop doing business there.

This is why India is a better investment.


Until the three factories, that are exact copies of yours, start cranking out things cheaper.
 Smart, driven, and inexhaustible manpower.
 
2013-06-27 12:06:18 PM  

vudukungfu: For the last four jobs I had, I started the interview with letting them know in no uncertain terms, that if they fark with my paycheck, there will be trouble for them and they will not survive unscathed.
Only one thought I was not being serious. He ended up settling out of court and paying me more than it would if he had not farked with my paycheck. He just didn't want his name in the paper as a penny-pinching cheapskate lair. Although everyone in town knows he is.


Yeah, that's not a good way to interview.
 
2013-06-27 12:08:13 PM  

Ricardo Klement: Ah, the perils of outsourcing.  Why would you go yourself?  Send some underling whose life can be miserable FOR you.


That's the first rule of outsourcing.  Without vigilant oversight, you will have quality and supply chain issues.
 
2013-06-27 12:09:53 PM  

vudukungfu: For the last four jobs I had, I started the interview with letting them know in no uncertain terms, that if they fark with my paycheck, there will be trouble for them and they will not survive unscathed.


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2013-06-27 12:21:24 PM  

vudukungfu: For the last four jobs I had, I started the interview with letting them know in no uncertain terms, that if they fark with my paycheck, there will be trouble for them and they will not survive unscathed.


BRILLIANT! I'm mostly curious about how you found four separate companies willing to hire you, after opening with a threat.

If that actually happened in the first place.
 
2013-06-27 12:24:50 PM  

vudukungfu: ed up settling out of court and paying me more than it would if he had not farked with my paycheck. He just didn't want his name in the paper as a penny-pinching cheapskate lair.


why do you work such shiatty jobs where this has to  be brought up in an interview?
 
2013-06-27 12:53:15 PM  

JerkStore: And so it begins. These cheap Chinese laborers aren't going to work for pennies forever. This is why I don't really worry about China owning all our debt or doing any of the other nonsense they're doing. They're about to have massive internal problems and a gigantic shift in power.


If you don't even have an understanding of their relative pay levels, why should we pay any credence to your economic and geopolitical forecasts.

/also...you mom wants you to move out of her basement and stop staining the recliners with your orange, Cheetos-stained hands.
 
2013-06-27 01:09:39 PM  
At least they don't have to join the "Kiss My Ass Club."
 
2013-06-27 01:55:02 PM  

what_now: vudukungfu: For the last four jobs I had, I started the interview with letting them know in no uncertain terms, that if they fark with my paycheck, there will be trouble for them and they will not survive unscathed.
Only one thought I was not being serious. He ended up settling out of court and paying me more than it would if he had not farked with my paycheck. He just didn't want his name in the paper as a penny-pinching cheapskate lair. Although everyone in town knows he is.

Yeah, that's not a good way to interview.


The "interview" process for prostitution is a lot different than with regular jobs.
 
2013-06-27 03:15:29 PM  

LemSkroob: It is not rare in China for managers to be held by workers demanding back pay or other benefits, often from their Chinese owners. Police are reluctant to intervene, as they consider it a business dispute.

Man, its astonishing how much the rest of the world is little more than savages.


Gosh, I'm thinking the Chinese cops are less savage than the American cops.  I guess you'd have no problem with American cops enforcing corporate law, eh.  (maybe they'll crack your head for not paying your phone bill)
 
2013-06-27 04:35:14 PM  

limeyfellow: They clearly learned nothing from India, where they beat the boss to death with metal poles as he walked in and told thousands of people they were all fired.MythDragon: LemSkroob: It is not rare in China for managers to be held by workers demanding back pay or other benefits, often from their Chinese owners. Police are reluctant to intervene, as they consider it a business dispute. They want no farking part of that clusterfark, and it's much easier to say "it's a civil problem" than go up against a bunch of pissed off factory workers.

Man, its astonishing how much the rest of the world is little more than savages.

Even in China, one would think that hostage taking would be something the police would deal with.
But then again, in 1st world England, the police don't give a fark if some gypsies break into your house while you are on vacation and simply declare it to be theirs. That's a civil matter for them, whilst in the US it's a B&E and Tresspassing charge. That's if the homeowner doesn't go all shotgunny on their asses first.

SInce when? If you come back in the US to find your house occupied it is a lengthy court battle that takes months and months to resolve. Often the courts insist you have to share the house. There lots of rules in place and none of them allow you to shoot the person with a shotgun.


Since people arn't allowed to break into your house. I'm not talking about a roomate that won't leave, I'm talking about some random person that just decided to set up camp whilst you were away for a couple of days. You're telling me that if I call the cops and say "help, there is a tresspasser in my house" they won't do anything about it?
 
2013-06-27 05:46:15 PM  

Skunkwolf: Ricardo Klement: cefm: "It is not rare in China for managers to be held by workers demanding back pay or other benefits, often from their Chinese owners. Police are reluctant to intervene, as they consider it a business dispute"

A business dispute is one in which the parties make demands of each other through the courts.  A kidnapping or robbery is when one or more people use physical force or the threat of physical force to unlawfully detain someone demanding money in exchange for their release.

If this is "normal" where you do business, stop doing business there.

This is why India is a better investment.

Until the three factories, that are exact copies of yours, start cranking out things cheaper.
 Smart, driven, and inexhaustible manpower.


If they want to trade some imprisonment time for more profits, they're welcome to it.
 
2013-06-27 06:45:36 PM  

The Downfall: At least they don't have to join the "Kiss My Ass Club."


Gaah now I have images of Vince's pasty white behind in those Speedos.
..thanks so much
 
2013-06-27 09:42:00 PM  

Panatheist: why do you work such shiatty jobs where this has to  be brought up in an interview?


I know, right?  I've had dozens of jobs.  Nobody has ever tried to screw with my paycheck.  I'm not saying there's never been s screwup - there've been a handful.  In fact, I'm waiting on my company fixing a SNAFU with last quarter's commission.  But that's always happened with commission and/or bonus tied to revenue, and it's always been an honest mistake and rectified within 2-3 weeks (a couple of times without my knowing).  Further, even the notion of revenue-based compensation occurred way late in my (thus far) 25 year career.

You go in to an interview threatening people about f*cking with your paycheck, that's a huge red flag you've got a hostile on your hands, and is more trouble than any amount of genius can make up for.  I have plenty of people with questions about paychecks - I don't want a threat even before the first mistake has been made...
 
2013-06-28 09:11:52 AM  
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