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(Slate)   Want to know how Apple, Google, MasterCard and Chik-Fil-A responded to the SCOTUS making everyone get gay married? If so, you are probably a lonely person with too much time on your hands. But here it is anyway   (slate.com) divider line 14
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2013-06-27 10:34:00 AM
2 votes:
Chick-Fil-A's CEO sparked protests by speaking out against gay marriage last year

No. The controversy was over spending $5 million of the company's profits on an anti-gay hate group "charity."
2013-06-27 10:14:25 AM
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Chick-Fil-A had nothing to say on the matter today. "We are leaving political decisions and discussions to others and focusing only on what we do best," the company told the Wall Street Journal.

Chicken.
2013-06-27 10:13:05 AM
2 votes:
People may be scoffing at it, but having large brand names weigh in on important social issues...especially on the correct side of history.. is kind of a big farking deal. It shows how much the pendulum has swung in favor of equal rights, and is a milestone in public attitude.

Keep in mind, these places wouldn't do these things if they thought they would hurt their chances at making money since that is the effective singular goal of a corporation. That proves public opinion has shifted.
2013-06-27 11:47:09 AM
1 votes:

here to help: yves0010: I am not saying that. I am saying that even if an opinion is based on something we perceive as wrong. It is still an opinion that needs to be respected regardless. To them, it is not wrong. You can base someones opinion on your own and say they are wrong but in reality.. there is no such thing as right or wrong when it comes to opinions.

lol... My opinion is water is dry and the earth is flat. I'm not wrong because that's my opinion. Sorry... it doesn't work that way.


Exactly. I don't know why or how we got to the point where we feel the need to treat everyone's opinions and beliefs with respect at all times, even if they're demonstrably wrong or assholish. I've stopped walking on eggshells around this type of thinking, especially when it comes to issues of religiously motivated moral busybodies using the law to tell others what to do. It's great that you think your belief in God gained through your reading of a 2000 year old book written by a bunch of iron age superstitious savages gives you the unique right and insight to tell other people how to live their lives, but fark you. Get your nose out of other people's business and mind your own.
2013-06-27 11:04:18 AM
1 votes:

IdBeCrazyIf: People may be scoffing at it, but having large brand names weigh in on important social issues...especially on the correct side of history.. is kind of a big farking deal. It shows how much the pendulum has swung in favor of equal rights, and is a milestone in public attitude.
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Sorry, but I'm gonna disagree with a here - they do it for advertising and money, nothing else.  If the majority of  people in the U.S DIDN'T agree with the Supreme court in this matter they would be silent as the grave.

Don't believe me? I heard a spokesperson for some large hotel chain (honestly can't remember who) interviewed on NPR who said something like "This means that when people stay at <company name> hotels they will have a great stay in a great room and no one will judge them." - that's an ad, nothing else. I mean seriously, does the spokesperson mean to say that without this judgement, the employees of the hotel chain were planning on scoffing at and ridiculing same-sex couples?  If DOMA hadn't been struck down, same-sex couples COULDN'T have "a great stay in a great room?"
2013-06-27 10:40:16 AM
1 votes:

IdBeCrazyIf: People may be scoffing at it, but having large brand names weigh in on important social issues...especially on the correct side of history.. is kind of a big farking deal. It shows how much the pendulum has swung in favor of equal rights, and is a milestone in public attitude.

Keep in mind, these places wouldn't do these things if they thought they would hurt their chances at making money since that is the effective singular goal of a corporation. That proves public opinion has shifted.


A couple of years ago I had an extensive debate with a conservative coworker of mine about the issue. I didn't want to argue based on religion and morality, since that's a minefield and you'll never change anyone's mind, so instead of explaining why legalizing it is the "right" thing to do, I told him that it was inevitable, and thus going with it was simply pragmatic.

The whole corporate angle was actually a big part of my argument. This was right about the time Chick-Fil-A was in the news, so I pointed out that they were probably the highest profile corporation in the entire country to actually be publicly against it. I looked it up and found that they were something like the 10th biggest fast food chain in the country.

So of all the corporations in the nation, most of which are probably "conservative" insofar as they want tax breaks and deregulation, the biggest one to actually take a right-leaning stance on an important social issue wasn't some giant megacorp sitting athwart the Fortune 500 like King Kong on the Empire State Building, it was a stupid chain restaurant that sells chicken nuggets and is tenth in its industry.

Basically, there is nothing to be gained for these companies to NOT be progressive on this issue. While painting rainbows on their headquarters and sponsoring a pride parade float might lose them some market share with certain groups, coming out against gay marriage would do the same, and gay peoples' money is as good as anyone else's. Corporations aren't right-leaning because they love Jesus, it's because they love profit, and gay marriage is no threat to their bottom line. As soon as it's clear that the country as a whole supports it, why not support it as well?

Really makes me wonder if any of the big companies during the 50s or 60s ever took an official stance on the Civil Rights Movement. Anyone know?
2013-06-27 10:38:09 AM
1 votes:

This text is now purple: xalres: rufus-t-firefly: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x359]

...so the polling places will be full of fat, bigoted, old, angry white people?

Traditionally so, yes, seeing as they make up the largest voting demographic.


Problem is they're all starting to die off.
2013-06-27 10:36:25 AM
1 votes:

yves0010: I am sorry if I have a different political and social view and opinion... but tell me.. what is right and wrong when voicing yours and my opinion on something. Just because my view does not match yours does not mean I am wrong and you are right.


The "wrong" side is the one that loses you more business than you were comfortable losing by publicly supporting it, realistically.

Dr Dreidel: Part of this "silence is golden" campaign is to get people to stop thinking that. Sure, the Cathys might be (are), but the people that work there probably aren't (especially the ones in/near cities), so best to have corporate say nothing.


I agree with this; the Cathy family is entitled to their beliefs and opinions and they're entitled to deciding whether they want their business to push what selection of their values on it.  I'm fine with them sticking to food prep and fastidious, indoor-playground cleaning regimens.

Nabb1: The waffle fries, not so much, but the chicken is solid.


Now that is a damned lie!  This is tantamount to hate speech!
2013-06-27 10:31:58 AM
1 votes:

yves0010: FTFA: The lesson: Taking sides on a civil-rights issue isn't necessarily a bad business move. Just don't take the wrong side.

I am sorry if I have a different political and social view and opinion... but tell me.. what is right and wrong when voicing yours and my opinion on something. Just because my view does not match yours does not mean I am wrong and you are right.

The article seems to focus on one side and says they are right and everyone else is wrong with out respecting their opinion on the matter. Then again, this is politics and in politics, opinions are treated as facts...


Opinions can be wrong. When your opinion is "We should have a law to keep people from entering into a contract because the magical sky wizard I worship tells me they're icky.", you're damn wrong. You're welcome to have that opinion, but you're still wrong, at least in the eyes of the law. You think we should give equal time to segregationists?
2013-06-27 10:26:35 AM
1 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 480x359]


...so the polling places will be full of fat, bigoted, old, angry white people?
2013-06-27 10:20:35 AM
1 votes:
"We are leaving political decisions and discussions to others and focusing only on what we do best"

What happened to the righteous bravado? The indignant pomposity inflated by a sense of holier than thou outrage? Now that they didn't get their way they all of a sudden don't want to talk about it? Farking pussies.

And fark your chicken too. Bland and dry and WHO PUTS A PICKLE ON CHICKEN SANDVICH??
2013-06-27 10:17:47 AM
1 votes:
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
2013-06-27 10:16:08 AM
1 votes:
Free small order of waffle fries to anyone crying
2013-06-27 10:05:58 AM
1 votes:
Say what you will about IBM, and people are saying some pretty bad things about them recently, but when I worked for them in the mid-1990s they had a well spelled-out policy of giving benefits to domestic partners whether they were married or not or gay or not.
 
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