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(National Review)   Almost there: nationalizing gay marriage. Then, the next step will be churches have to perform homosexual marriage or they will lose their tax-exempt status   (nationalreview.com) divider line 270
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2013-06-27 09:24:10 AM
All movement from status quo goes straight down a slippery slope to a pool filled with the stone knives of political strawment.

/Not even Yoo would defend how I just tortured those words
 
2013-06-27 09:30:03 AM
Are Christian churches currently required to perform Jewish weddings?  No? Then shut your farking face.
 
2013-06-27 09:30:26 AM

hillbillypharmacist: /Not even Yoo would defend how I just tortured those words


Especially the word 'strawment'.  *strawmen*
 
2013-06-27 09:31:58 AM
And turtle-f*cking! Don't forget the turtle-f*cking!
 
2013-06-27 09:35:30 AM
This thread should be conducted in caveman-speak
 
2013-06-27 09:36:54 AM
WHEN OOG TAKE STEP EAST OOG END UP IN CHINA
OOG LESSON:  NO TAKE STEP EAST
 
2013-06-27 09:41:40 AM

James!: Are Christian churches currently required to perform Jewish weddings?  No? Then shut your farking face.


Not only that, but imagine what it's like for the handful of bigoted churches that won't perform mixed-race weddings these days?  Sure, they still exist and the Evil Gub'mint doesn't harass them... but their congregations are all 90+ and their few indoctrinated children, so they're slowly dying anyway.  Give it a few decades and see how many hold out.  Meanwhile, you may not get the one you wanted, but you should be able to find one... if you live in the right state.

My prediction is that the 12 states where it's legal will begin to see a resurgence, a real economic recovery as all the excess talent and experience in the homosexual population slowly relocates to them.
 
2013-06-27 09:45:33 AM
Of all the stupid, awful arguments against marriage equality, I've always found this to be one of the most brainless.
 
2013-06-27 09:52:00 AM
 
2013-06-27 09:53:34 AM

WI241TH: Oh my god! Mike Huckabee is part of this insidious plot!


Huh, I fully agree with Mike's advice.
 
2013-06-27 09:57:41 AM

James!: WI241TH: Oh my god! Mike Huckabee is part of this insidious plot!

Huh, I fully agree with Mike's advice.


Yup that's odd.  It's a fine idea- right now they don't pay taxes and still basically do what they want.
 
2013-06-27 10:00:07 AM
"So where do you want to have our wedding, honey?"
"Well, we could do it at the church that we actually attend, with our minister whom we've known for years..."
"Or?"
"Let's do it at a place we've never been to, that openly despises us, conducted by a guy who is going to be scowling and pissed off during the entire ceremony!"
"It will be such a magical day!"
 
2013-06-27 10:13:37 AM

Sgt Otter: "So where do you want to have our wedding, honey?"
"Well, we could do it at the church that we actually attend, with our minister whom we've known for years..."
"Or?"
"Let's do it at a place we've never been to, that openly despises us, conducted by a guy who is going to be scowling and pissed off during the entire ceremony!"
"It will be such a magical day!"


There was a great story a while back about a couple who got married overseas in...Mauritius? Madagascar?  And the local minister hated tourist weddings, and just smiled while swearing at them the whole time in his native tongue, calling the bride a whore, etc.
 
2013-06-27 10:17:10 AM
1955: This school desegregation decision will mean blacks have equal rights in all 50 states!

Pretty soon white waitresses will have to serve negros at lunch counters and Negroes will be able to sit wherever they want on the bus.
 
2013-06-27 10:42:03 AM
In exactly the same manner that churches have been able to lose their tax exempt status for refusing to perform mixed-race marriages, ever since Virginia v Loving was handed down.
 
2013-06-27 11:18:01 AM

hillbillypharmacist: James!: WI241TH: Oh my god! Mike Huckabee is part of this insidious plot!

Huh, I fully agree with Mike's advice.

Yup that's odd.  It's a fine idea- right now they don't pay taxes and still basically do what they want.


Basically? They organized an entire event last year recording church leaders advocating for candidates and mailed them to the IRS, daring them to revoke tax-exempt status, and nothing happened.
 
2013-06-27 11:36:28 AM

WI241TH: Basically? They organized an entire event last year recording church leaders advocating for candidates and mailed them to the IRS, daring them to revoke tax-exempt status, and nothing happened.


Didn't hear about that, but I don't doubt it.  You have a link?
 
2013-06-27 11:44:19 AM
For tax exempt status, no church is required to do anything but stay black and die (and not engage in political activity).
 
2013-06-27 11:44:37 AM
Hey. You want to fix a budget problem? Simple solution: Tax the church. They've been getting a free ride for far too long, and not just in American history. I'm all for it, whether they break down and accept marriage equality or not.
 
2013-06-27 11:45:01 AM
Churches finally having to catch up with the 21st Century?

pjmedia.com
 
2013-06-27 11:45:45 AM
Are churches REQUIRED to perform any wedding?
 
2013-06-27 11:45:49 AM
When did the Catholic church lose its tax exempt status for refusing to marry divorced people?

Oh, they haven't? You mean the mouth breathers arguments against marriage equality are all bullshait? I am shocked.
 
2013-06-27 11:46:22 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: There was a great story a while back about a couple who got married overseas in...Mauritius? Madagascar? And the local minister hated tourist weddings, and just smiled while swearing at them the whole time in his native tongue, calling the bride a whore, etc.


Sounds like a real man of God.
 
2013-06-27 11:46:31 AM

James!: Are Christian churches currently required to perform Jewish weddings?  No? Then shut your farking face.


You cannot even be a non-greek guest if it is a orthodox greek wedding
 
2013-06-27 11:47:04 AM

kronicfeld: And turtle-f*cking! Don't forget the turtle-f*cking!


"My #1 priority is to make sure that my cornhole stays a one-way avenue." -Mitch McConnell (tuR-tle)
 
2013-06-27 11:47:04 AM
headline neq article.

anyway,
what about polygamy ?
 
2013-06-27 11:47:10 AM

BunkoSquad: This thread should be conducted in caveman-speak


i161.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-27 11:47:48 AM

max_pooper: When did the Catholic church lose its tax exempt status for refusing to marry divorced people?

Oh, they haven't? You mean the mouth breathers arguments against marriage equality are all bullshait? I am shocked.


To be fair, Krauthammer  breaths through a tube, not his mouth.
 
2013-06-27 11:48:02 AM

BunkoSquad: This thread should be conducted in caveman-speak


I thought it was a libertarian that thought no new political ideas for more than two thousand years that started that (apart from theirs), rather than the some religious people's view that no new valid moral ideas have happened since (or before) their particular holy book was created.
 
2013-06-27 11:48:41 AM
I can't think of a better way to spend a most cherished day, as I pledge my eternal love and commitment to my chosen life mate, than by rubbing it other people's faces.

Not.
 
2013-06-27 11:49:21 AM
That would be awesome, but no, that won't be happening.
 
2013-06-27 11:49:36 AM

BunkoSquad: This thread should be conducted in caveman-speak


COK RAW SPUNK POOT ALL NITE, NEED MARRIAGE. JIZZ WINDOW GROK AFTER NUPTIAL, LIMO NEED SQUEEGIE, RIBBONS OF SHAME.  AND SPOOGE.
 
2013-06-27 11:50:18 AM

monoski: James!: Are Christian churches currently required to perform Jewish weddings?  No? Then shut your farking face.

You cannot even be a non-greek guest if it is a orthodox greek wedding


Hey now!  I went to one.

Though it makes me wonder if Uncle Joey had to convert.  It was a long time ago.

I like how everything in the ceremony was in threes, and liked the symbolism of the head ring thingies tied together.
 
2013-06-27 11:50:56 AM
Or, we could just take away their tax-exempt status, period. They seem to be cool with ignoring that "render unto Caesar" bit by the guy they claim to follow anyway.
 
2013-06-27 11:51:20 AM

utah dude: what about polygamy ?


as long as it's primarily practiced by men who want a harem, you can make a pretty rational argument against it being bad for society.
 
2013-06-27 11:52:20 AM
So they'll be required to perform gay weddings but they'll still be allowed to refuse to perform weddings for straight couples that don't meet their requirments?
 
2013-06-27 11:53:06 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: There was a great story a while back about a couple who got married overseas in...Mauritius? Madagascar?  And the local minister hated tourist weddings, and just smiled while swearing at them the whole time in his native tongue, calling the bride a whore, etc.


haha that's got to be one of the most shiat that didn't happen things i've ever heard
 
2013-06-27 11:53:39 AM
The point of a separate of Church and State is that it works both ways, which is something fundies on the Church side should keep in mind every time they think there shouldn't be one.
 
2013-06-27 11:54:56 AM

Jackson Herring: God Is My Co-Pirate: There was a great story a while back about a couple who got married overseas in...Mauritius? Madagascar?  And the local minister hated tourist weddings, and just smiled while swearing at them the whole time in his native tongue, calling the bride a whore, etc.

haha that's got to be one of the most shiat that didn't happen things i've ever heard


Well, there is this: http://storyful.com/stories/605
 
2013-06-27 11:55:10 AM
Reading NRO is like reading the old Jeanne Dixon predictions in Star Magazine.

"Larry Hagman and Joan Collins will wed in real life and the ceremony will be filmed for a combined episode of Dallas and Dynasty to be aired on all THREE networks."
"Soviet Premier Andropov will reveal he's obsessed with the music of KC and the Sunshine Band, inviting them for a concert in Red Square"'
 
2013-06-27 11:55:58 AM

coeyagi: For tax exempt status, no church is required to do anything but stay black and die (and not engage in political activity).


So you mean the churches need a new paint job? I dunno, I kinda prefer my churches a nice shade of ecru.
 
2013-06-27 11:56:16 AM
If the local Baptist Church won't perform a Black Mass so I can gay-marry a dolphin, I'm calling the TSA!!
 
2013-06-27 11:56:47 AM
"In this opinion, is the absolutely inevitable seed of essentially nationalizing gay marriage in the way Roe nationalized and abolished all the abortion laws."

So not at all?
 
2013-06-27 11:57:34 AM

DarnoKonrad: utah dude: what about polygamy ?

as long as it's primarily practiced by men who want a harem, you can make a pretty rational argument against it being bad for society.


But then how am I going to get my harem?
 
2013-06-27 11:57:42 AM

DarnoKonrad: max_pooper: When did the Catholic church lose its tax exempt status for refusing to marry divorced people?

Oh, they haven't? You mean the mouth breathers arguments against marriage equality are all bullshait? I am shocked.

To be fair, Krauthammer  breaths through a tube, not his mouth.


Did ya ever wonder where the other end of that tube went?
 
2013-06-27 11:58:14 AM
Yesterday was my second anniversary, but because of this decision, our traditional marriage was destroyed. We were forcibly auto-divorced and now I'm living in sin with a donkey. Thanks a lot SCOTUS.
 
2013-06-27 11:58:38 AM
Sure, this sets in motion the gears to a federal opinion that same-sex couples can get married. But nobody has ever been forced to marry someone. Hell, just last year, there was a church in Mississippi that refused to marry a black man and a black woman! And about the same time, a Kentucky church banned marrying interracial couples! Uncle Sam will not stop you from being a hateful bigot in your church if that's what you want to be.
 
2013-06-27 11:59:20 AM

James!: WI241TH: Oh my god! Mike Huckabee is part of this insidious plot!

Huh, I fully agree with Mike's advice.


I disagree. No group should be tax exempt. period.
 
2013-06-27 11:59:38 AM

CPennypacker: Yesterday was my second anniversary, but because of this decision, our traditional marriage was destroyed. We were forcibly auto-divorced and now I'm living in sin with a donkey. Thanks a lot SCOTUS.


I can't decide who has it worse, you or the donkey?
 
2013-06-27 11:59:57 AM

CPennypacker: Yesterday was my second anniversary, but because of this decision, our traditional marriage was destroyed. We were forcibly auto-divorced and now I'm living in sin with a donkey. Thanks a lot SCOTUS.


Same thing happened to me but our 17th anniversary was coming up.  Well the same except the donkey was taken and now I am alone, thanks CPennypacker.
 
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