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(KATU)   Protip: If you have two backpacks that you use for mountain climbing, try to make sure that your locator beacon is in the one you are wearing, especially if you plan on getting lost on Mt Hood   (katu.com) divider line 30
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2013-06-27 10:33:57 AM  
Wouldn't it be a lot easier to not put "Get lost on Mt. Hood" on your checklist?
 
2013-06-27 10:36:03 AM  
As a fellow climber/backpacker in Wa, people dont realize its no joke up there. Weather conditions and fog come in and you can be in a white out with no visibility quick.
 
2013-06-27 10:38:59 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: Wouldn't it be a lot easier to not put "Get lost on Mt. Hood" on your checklist?


The checklist was also in the other backpack. This whole trip was ill-planned.
 
2013-06-27 10:44:40 AM  
"He can take a lot of misery," Lorraine Adams said on Tuesday

Great quote from a wife.

/hope he returns to healthy to his miserable marriage
 
2013-06-27 10:59:35 AM  
QUESTION:  What happened to that woman who got stoned, naked and wandered off from her group a couple of weeks ago?

Oliver Twisted: "He can take a lot of misery," Lorraine Adams said on Tuesday

Great quote from a wife.

/hope he returns to healthy to his miserable marriage


heh heh.
 
2013-06-27 11:00:58 AM  
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Two backpacks? One for each peak?
 
2013-06-27 11:06:11 AM  

Odd Bird: QUESTION:  What happened to that woman who got stoned, naked and wandered off from her group a couple of weeks ago?


Never mind, still missing:  https://www.facebook.com/FindAnuKelly
 
2013-06-27 11:12:04 AM  
1. Born in an age that sees the advent of personal trackers.
2. Buy personal tracker.
3. Leave personal tracker at home and get lost on Mount Hood.
4. "We are trusting God to take care of him," Lorraine Adams said.
 
2013-06-27 11:34:34 AM  

Ivo Shandor: [i1.ytimg.com image 480x360]
Two backpacks? One for each peak?


One for the trip up, the other for the trip down...
 
2013-06-27 11:47:07 AM  

Odd Bird: Odd Bird: QUESTION:  What happened to that woman who got stoned, naked and wandered off from her group a couple of weeks ago?

Never mind, still missing:  https://www.facebook.com/FindAnuKelly


That also happened about a year ago on Shasta.  Don't get stoned on mountains.
 
2013-06-27 11:48:00 AM  
Let me explain the Two packs.

Pack one, is a very large pack that encompasses not only all of your climbing gear, ropes, food and camping gear. Most people set up a base camp somewhere.
Pack two, is a summit pack. Usually a smaller, lighter pack that you load for the actual climb. You dont summit with a 65lb pack, that is stupid.
 
2013-06-27 11:48:57 AM  

Doogled: Odd Bird: Odd Bird: QUESTION:  What happened to that woman who got stoned, naked and wandered off from her group a couple of weeks ago?

Never mind, still missing:  https://www.facebook.com/FindAnuKelly

That also happened about a year ago on Shasta.

Don't get stoned on mountains.

Dont climb with me then.
 
2013-06-27 11:59:53 AM  
Call off the rescue, God got this:

FTFA:

"We are trusting God to take care of him," Lorraine Adams said.
 
2013-06-27 12:05:38 PM  

mentallo69: Doogled: Odd Bird: Odd Bird: QUESTION:  What happened to that woman who got stoned, naked and wandered off from her group a couple of weeks ago?

Never mind, still missing:  https://www.facebook.com/FindAnuKelly

That also happened about a year ago on Shasta. Don't get stoned on mountains.

Dont climb with me then.


Well fine then.  My buddy Jack Daniels and I will go climb somewhere else.  Just make sure you're sober on summit day.

From the comments:

um, RECCO? implanted in gear. Do the buyers know this? Sounds scary to me.

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2013-06-27 12:11:52 PM  

mentallo69: Let me explain the Two packs.

Pack one, is a very large pack that encompasses not only all of your climbing gear, ropes, food and camping gear. Most people set up a base camp somewhere.
Pack two, is a summit pack. Usually a smaller, lighter pack that you load for the actual climb. You dont summit with a 65lb pack, that is stupid.


How smart is it to go on a climb alone?

I wish this man no ill will, this reeks of arrogance.
 
2013-06-27 12:28:20 PM  

Oliver Twisted: "He can take a lot of misery," Lorraine Adams said on Tuesday

Great quote from a wife.

/hope he returns to healthy to his miserable marriage


Saw that.

Have they looked in Central America?
 
2013-06-27 12:34:01 PM  

PluckYew: mentallo69: Let me explain the Two packs.

Pack one, is a very large pack that encompasses not only all of your climbing gear, ropes, food and camping gear. Most people set up a base camp somewhere.
Pack two, is a summit pack. Usually a smaller, lighter pack that you load for the actual climb. You dont summit with a 65lb pack, that is stupid.

How smart is it to go on a climb alone?

I wish this man no ill will, this reeks of arrogance.


Smart enough that at least 3 people get lost on Mt. Hood every year doing it.  Enough that I have stopped caring when I read about them.  Enough that there needs to be a liability insurance to clime said mountain to save the tax-payers a few million a year.
 
2013-06-27 12:49:18 PM  

PluckYew: mentallo69: Let me explain the Two packs.

Pack one, is a very large pack that encompasses not only all of your climbing gear, ropes, food and camping gear. Most people set up a base camp somewhere.
Pack two, is a summit pack. Usually a smaller, lighter pack that you load for the actual climb. You dont summit with a 65lb pack, that is stupid.

How smart is it to go on a climb alone?

I wish this man no ill will, this reeks of arrogance.


you see my friend, there are some people who have i kind of wanderlust. a type that can't just be satisfied by new places. it must be accompanied by a sense of feeling that they got there on their own and don't owe anybody else for the experience. at the same time, they can claim such uniqueness of experience that others will never understand...

while others have learned from history that there is safety in numbers, these intrepid few continue to sacrifice for a unique human experience, and sometimes it doesn't work out for them:

alexander supertramp

127 hours guy

and a whole list of other people that have randomly disappeared that you have never heard of
 
2013-06-27 12:51:19 PM  

PluckYew: mentallo69: Let me explain the Two packs.

Pack one, is a very large pack that encompasses not only all of your climbing gear, ropes, food and camping gear. Most people set up a base camp somewhere.
Pack two, is a summit pack. Usually a smaller, lighter pack that you load for the actual climb. You dont summit with a 65lb pack, that is stupid.

How smart is it to go on a climb alone?

I wish this man no ill will, this reeks of arrogance.


I wouldn't say being alone is that big of a deal for him. He appears to spend a lot of time up there. Likely not arrogance. Just likes being alone.
I have a climbing partner but I see plenty of people out on their own. You just need to be careful is all. And sometimes all the care and prep in the world will not stop an accident, be it a solo climber or a big group.
Let's look at the alternative for a second. Right now there is one person to look for. Say he got hurt and is stuck does his partner leave him in those conditions to go get help? What is the likelihood that the partner will also get lost or hurt in the conditions that they are talking about? Now you might be looking for two people in different spots. I guess all I'm saying is that if I didn't have a partner to climb with I'd be solo as well.
I hope he gets out alright and no one gets hurt looking for him.
 
2013-06-27 12:58:33 PM  

Alphakronik: PluckYew: mentallo69: Let me explain the Two packs.

Pack one, is a very large pack that encompasses not only all of your climbing gear, ropes, food and camping gear. Most people set up a base camp somewhere.
Pack two, is a summit pack. Usually a smaller, lighter pack that you load for the actual climb. You dont summit with a 65lb pack, that is stupid.

How smart is it to go on a climb alone?

I wish this man no ill will, this reeks of arrogance.

Smart enough that at least 3 people get lost on Mt. Hood every year doing it.  Enough that I have stopped caring when I read about them.  Enough that there needs to be a liability insurance to clime said mountain to save the tax-payers a few million a year.


The insurance isn't all that bad of an idea. Many people would not mind chipping in a few bucks for it. It sure would have to be much to cover the few climbers that need to be rescued.

As an aside, I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of state "projects" that could be cut to more than cover this...
But that's a whole different can o worms.
 
2013-06-27 01:03:31 PM  
He hooked up with Maureen Kelly and they are on a beach in Zihuatanejo
 
2013-06-27 01:05:52 PM  

Just Arrived: The insurance isn't all that bad of an idea. Many people would not mind chipping in a few bucks for it. It sure would have to be much to cover the few climbers that need to be rescued.

As an aside, I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of state "projects" that could be cut to more than cover this...
But that's a whole different can o worms.


Why should tax dollars go to saving people who put themselves in danger?

They should be billed for any expense for the rescue.  They can then buy their own insurance to cover it.
 
2013-06-27 01:21:37 PM  

MugzyBrown: Just Arrived: The insurance isn't all that bad of an idea. Many people would not mind chipping in a few bucks for it. It sure would have to be much to cover the few climbers that need to be rescued.

As an aside, I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of state "projects" that could be cut to more than cover this...
But that's a whole different can o worms.

Why should tax dollars go to saving people who put themselves in danger?

They should be billed for any expense for the rescue.  They can then buy their own insurance to cover it.


Here in Colorado, the state has an actual 'search and rescue' fund that reimburses any and all agencies involved in a rescue if a person has purchased it. The coverage comes with a fishing or hunting license and I believe can be purchased for a dollar. Never heard of someone in Colorado being on the hook if they didn't have an S&R 'tag', but it's likely gonna happen eventually.
 
2013-06-27 02:05:37 PM  
Let's hope he knows what to do in a situation like this. Drink his own piss.
 
2013-06-27 03:51:11 PM  

Just Arrived: I wouldn't say being alone is that big of a deal for him. He appears to spend a lot of time up there. Likely not arrogance. Just likes being alone.
I have a climbing partner but I see plenty of people out on their own. You just need to be careful is all. And sometimes all the care and prep in the world will not stop an accident, be it a solo climber or a big group.
Let's look at the alternative for a second. Right now there is one person to look for. Say he got hurt and is stuck does his partner leave him in those conditions to go get help? What is the likelihood that the partner will also get lost or hurt in the conditions that they are talking about? Now you might be looking for two people in different spots. I guess all I'm saying is that if I didn't have a partner to climb with I'd be solo as well.
I hope he gets out alright and no one gets hurt looking for him.


Maybe one of them would have remembered to bring the farking locator.
 
2013-06-27 04:47:07 PM  
red5ish:

Maybe one of them would have remembered to bring the farking locator.

What I was thinking too.
 
2013-06-27 05:44:39 PM  
    I think a lot of folks posting here think all this technology will actually make up for lack of experience and solid skills. A locator beacon is a spiffy tool, that said, it is useless if help can't get to you,
"they know where you are" doesn't mean anyone can get to you to help you. The same goes for a cell phone. I see this with avalanche beacons and air bags also great tools but never as good as avoidance, and if you get strained through a forest by a snow slide you will die from the trauma regardless, it takes time and mileage to learn avalanche terrain and prudent route finding. Even taking an AST( avalanche skills training) you still need to assimilate the information into knowledge with mentoring and real experience.

As far as the folks passing judgement on soloists I frequently ski tour, ice climb, rock climb, mountain bike etc. alone. I explicitly understand the risks and happily accept them for the rewards, that said, I have no trouble backing off or turning around if I don't like my chances. I enjoy the company of a partner for sure and have been blessed with the best companions one could ever ask for for these activities, but the solitary days have been instrumental in me knowing my abilities and being able to make honest assessments of them which has been how I've survived thus far.

Few people have any self rescue skills and even poorer survival skills, these folks usually are very well dressed and decked with electronic gadgets, they generally have no mileage and little common sense and usually are the ones chiding me for being alone.....
 
2013-06-27 06:05:08 PM  

Mark Ratner: Let's hope he knows what to do in a situation like this. Drink his own piss.


It's sterile and I like the taste.
 
2013-06-27 06:25:23 PM  

Just Arrived: Alphakronik: PluckYew: mentallo69: Let me explain the Two packs.

Pack one, is a very large pack that encompasses not only all of your climbing gear, ropes, food and camping gear. Most people set up a base camp somewhere.
Pack two, is a summit pack. Usually a smaller, lighter pack that you load for the actual climb. You dont summit with a 65lb pack, that is stupid.

How smart is it to go on a climb alone?

I wish this man no ill will, this reeks of arrogance.

Smart enough that at least 3 people get lost on Mt. Hood every year doing it.  Enough that I have stopped caring when I read about them.  Enough that there needs to be a liability insurance to clime said mountain to save the tax-payers a few million a year.

The insurance isn't all that bad of an idea. Many people would not mind chipping in a few bucks for it. It sure would have to be much to cover the few climbers that need to be rescued.

As an aside, I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of state "projects" that could be cut to more than cover this...
But that's a whole different can o worms.


Special-interest groups in Oregon?  The hell you say!
 
2013-06-27 06:32:34 PM  

New Age Redneck: I think a lot of folks posting here think all this technology will actually make up for lack of experience and solid skills. A locator beacon is a spiffy tool, that said, it is useless if help can't get to you,
"they know where you are" doesn't mean anyone can get to you to help you. The same goes for a cell phone. I see this with avalanche beacons and air bags also great tools but never as good as avoidance, and if you get strained through a forest by a snow slide you will die from the trauma regardless, it takes time and mileage to learn avalanche terrain and prudent route finding. Even taking an AST( avalanche skills training) you still need to assimilate the information into knowledge with mentoring and real experience.

As far as the folks passing judgement on soloists I frequently ski tour, ice climb, rock climb, mountain bike etc. alone. I explicitly understand the risks and happily accept them for the rewards, that said, I have no trouble backing off or turning around if I don't like my chances. I enjoy the company of a partner for sure and have been blessed with the best companions one could ever ask for for these activities, but the solitary days have been instrumental in me knowing my abilities and being able to make honest assessments of them which has been how I've survived thus far.

Few people have any self rescue skills and even poorer survival skills, these folks usually are very well dressed and decked with electronic gadgets, they generally have no mileage and little common sense and usually are the ones chiding me for being alone.....


Didn't know I had a brother.   : )
 
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