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(Daily Mail)   As if being a Starbucks barista doesn't suck enough that you are one to begin with, now you must share your tips with shift supervisors   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 34
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2013-06-27 01:47:39 PM  
2 votes:

robohobo: AverageAmericanGuy: gerbilpox: AverageAmericanGuy: I'll help with Take a Penny, Leave a Penny, but I'll be goddamned if I tip some cashier for pouring me a cup of coffee.

You want yours without spit, don't you?

So my choice is either to give in to the extortion or suffer the consequences?

I think I'd rather take my business elsewhere.

Extortion is exactly what is is. Protection money at it's finest, because they can't be assed to get a real job. This whole tipping culture is farking ridiculous. If you rely on tips to live, you need a new job. This is why automation is a good thing, eventually they'll be replaced by smart robots, able to take everyones silly custom orders, and employees will be cut down to the guy who performs maintenance.


I tip just so the hard working kid behind the counter realizes not everyone is like you.  Got to give them hope for humanity.  Seriously those people take way to much sh*t in the course of a day.
2013-06-27 12:32:37 PM  
2 votes:
If I'm sitting down and you're taking my order, bringing my order, and refilling my beverage, you get a tip.  If I stand in a line and you do nothing other than take my order and hand it to me after someone else makes it (as others have pointed out, this is exactly like McDonald's), then absolutely no tip.

I also see tip jars at Subway.  Seriously?

When did this country get all tip crazy?  Europe and the UK are *way* better at this than we are.
2013-06-27 12:10:21 PM  
2 votes:

meanmutton: People_are_Idiots: you realize when you put the tip in a jar they have no way of knowing at the end of the shift what tips go to which person

If it's a jar, that falls under bar tipping. Bartenders and DJs put out jars to offer a tip, and the money IS spread out. The article did not mention this so it's safer to assume that Starbucks operates like a restaurant, which common practice is leaving a tip on the table with the check, or handing it to the server when you pay.

Ahh, so, no, they don't handle it like a restaurant.  Coffee shops like Starbucks have a service model very similar to fast food places -- you line up, talk to a cashier and place your order, pay for it (there's a small jar next to it where you can place a tip), and then go over to an area to wait where they give you your order (and there's another small jar there where you can also tip).  Once you get your order, you take it over to the little stand where they have cream / sugar / other stuff to put in your coffee.

Honestly, it's kind of like McDonald's only at Starbucks, they don't put the cream and sugar in your coffee for you; you have to do that yourself.  So it's like a McDonald's where they don't provide the same level of service making coffee and have a tip jar.


Who in their right mind wants anyone but themselves to measure out how much cream and sugar gets put in their coffee?
2013-06-27 07:49:43 AM  
2 votes:
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Approves.
2013-06-27 03:45:00 AM  
2 votes:
I'll help with Take a Penny, Leave a Penny, but I'll be goddamned if I tip some cashier for pouring me a cup of coffee.
2013-06-27 03:41:30 AM  
2 votes:
You know what?  Aside from the fact that Starbucks mostly serves swill, this just gives me all the more reason to avoid doing business with them.
2013-06-27 03:31:19 AM  
2 votes:

Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?


Starbucks pays above the minimum wage. And the "shift supervisor" isn't some overpaid manager type.  They are more akin to "lead person" and typically don't make much more than the baristas.  Sharing tips is the right thing to do.
2013-06-27 03:14:47 PM  
1 votes:

meanmutton: The Thoroughbred of Sin: robohobo: AverageAmericanGuy: gerbilpox: AverageAmericanGuy: I'll help with Take a Penny, Leave a Penny, but I'll be goddamned if I tip some cashier for pouring me a cup of coffee.

You want yours without spit, don't you?

So my choice is either to give in to the extortion or suffer the consequences?

I think I'd rather take my business elsewhere.

Extortion is exactly what is is. Protection money at it's finest, because they can't be assed to get a real job. This whole tipping culture is farking ridiculous. If you rely on tips to live, you need a new job. This is why automation is a good thing, eventually they'll be replaced by smart robots, able to take everyones silly custom orders, and employees will be cut down to the guy who performs maintenance.

I tip just so the hard working kid behind the counter realizes not everyone is like you.  Got to give them hope for humanity.  Seriously those people take way to much sh*t in the course of a day.

It's a movie.


That only cheap douchebags quote.
2013-06-27 01:11:45 PM  
1 votes:

vento: If I'm sitting down and you're taking my order, bringing my order, and refilling my beverage, you get a tip.  If I stand in a line and you do nothing other than take my order and hand it to me after someone else makes it (as others have pointed out, this is exactly like McDonald's), then absolutely no tip.

I also see tip jars at Subway.  Seriously?

When did this country get all tip crazy?  Europe and the UK are *way* better at this than we are.


Tip jars have been around in smaller, independent shops since I can remember.  I don't recall seeing tip jars regularly at franchises with over-the-counter service until the late 90's / early 2000's.  Then it seemed any place would plop one down in hopes of getting an extra buck or two from customers.  Even when paying with card, many add the "tip" field on the receipt (which can be turned off) and force you to sign (which is not necessary for transactions under $50).

As for Starbucks, it seems like the vast majority of people pay with card or the app, leaving no chance to drop spare change or a dollar bill into the tip jar.  Most of the time when I go (only once a week for an iced coffee) and I look, it contains only a handful of loose change.
2013-06-27 11:37:20 AM  
1 votes:
lisa0012:
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Approves.


I was thinking the exact same thing. And good lord just LOOK at her in this photo with that hair. I swear that it looks like some truly bad Photoshopping at work here.
2013-06-27 09:36:05 AM  
1 votes:

People_are_Idiots: you realize when you put the tip in a jar they have no way of knowing at the end of the shift what tips go to which person

If it's a jar, that falls under bar tipping. Bartenders and DJs put out jars to offer a tip, and the money IS spread out. The article did not mention this so it's safer to assume that Starbucks operates like a restaurant, which common practice is leaving a tip on the table with the check, or handing it to the server when you pay.


Ahh, so, no, they don't handle it like a restaurant.  Coffee shops like Starbucks have a service model very similar to fast food places -- you line up, talk to a cashier and place your order, pay for it (there's a small jar next to it where you can place a tip), and then go over to an area to wait where they give you your order (and there's another small jar there where you can also tip).  Once you get your order, you take it over to the little stand where they have cream / sugar / other stuff to put in your coffee.

Honestly, it's kind of like McDonald's only at Starbucks, they don't put the cream and sugar in your coffee for you; you have to do that yourself.  So it's like a McDonald's where they don't provide the same level of service making coffee and have a tip jar.
2013-06-27 08:59:03 AM  
1 votes:

mike_d85: WHY ARE THERE TIP JARS AT SELF SERVE FROZEN YOGURT SHOPS?!?

/I, for one, am appalled by this behavior.


The only thing that insidious practice is good for is relieving me of the 7 cents i got back as change.
2013-06-27 08:51:10 AM  
1 votes:

Forbidden Doughnut: No Mr. Pink yet? FARK, I am dissapoint....


First page, about 1/5th of the way down.
2013-06-27 08:48:56 AM  
1 votes:

Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?


I sure don't. And i blame Starbucks for the nefarious practice of putting tip jars in every place of business.

At least Flo down at the greasy spoon would bring my cuppa to me.
2013-06-27 08:31:18 AM  
1 votes:
My teen daughter got a second job at Cold Stone Creamery this year.  They have a tip jar that is taken to the back office each night by the manager.  Then it is supposedly split up and included in their paychecks.

I'm a suspicious bastard so I assume once the door is closed the manager is taking their pick of pre-tax tips.
2013-06-27 08:30:54 AM  
1 votes:

meanmutton: SarahDiddle: I work at Starbucks so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

But really, a shift supervisor is no different from a team lead or anything. It's an extra 1-2$ per hour to do all of the barista duties and count tills at the end of the night. We're not salary, we're not full time, we just have slightly more responsibilities than a barista (cash management and keys to the store). So yes, shifts deserve to split the tips.

Assistant and Store managers are salaried and work 40+ hours a week and they rightfully do not get tips.

/Love my job
//kickass health insurance for 20 hours a week
///going to be sad when I finish my degree and quit

Don't get too optimistic about quiting.


I don't think it'll be permanent because I'm going into teaching but if I have to stay or go back to the company I won't mind. They treat ALL their employees well with everyone (including baristas) getting PTO, stock grants, discounted stock, tuition reimbursement, matching to our 401k, health/dental insurance, maternity leave (75% pay for 2 months)... it's a great job honestly.
2013-06-27 06:00:18 AM  
1 votes:

redmid17: Tipping someone who makes more than minimum wage? Okay buddy.


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2013-06-27 05:39:19 AM  
1 votes:
As if being a Starbucks barista doesn't suck enough that you are one to begin with

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2013-06-27 05:34:13 AM  
1 votes:
If girls who get dollar bills in their panties at a strip club have to share their tips with well like everyone from the DJ to the owner while their doing all the bouncing and shaking....I have no problem with some moron who makes coffee sharing their tips.
2013-06-27 05:21:33 AM  
1 votes:

2and4: Alphakronik: Bucky Katt: Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?

You don't have to.  No one is making you.

I'll tip $1 to every barista who gets my name correct, which means I don't tip very often.

Let me guess, you tip $1 to every bartender that makes you the perfect gin and tonic, whether you know their name or not. Maybe you should learn your barista's name, asshole.
/if you can't afford the tip, make it at home


Or, if you CAN afford the tip, make it at home. High end espresso machines aren't that expensive. If you have the time to wait in line for some mouth breathing hipster to make you coffee, you have the time to make it at home.
2013-06-27 05:16:13 AM  
1 votes:

Alphakronik: Bucky Katt: Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?

You don't have to.  No one is making you.

I'll tip $1 to every barista who gets my name correct, which means I don't tip very often.


Let me guess, you tip $1 to every bartender that makes you the perfect gin and tonic, whether you know their name or not. Maybe you should learn your barista's name, asshole.
/if you can't afford the tip, make it at home
2013-06-27 04:38:54 AM  
1 votes:

HotWingAgenda: That makes sense. But the people rolling up and ordering a $20 fru fru girly drink that takes 5 minutes to make had better farking tip for the extra work and focus involved.


Perhaps Starbucks could pay their staff by the hour, so that they earned more for drinks that took longer to make. That way, they'd earn the same for making one five-minute drink as for making five one-minute drink. Just a thought.
2013-06-27 04:32:04 AM  
1 votes:
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/cause I am in the middle of re-watching the BSG remake...
2013-06-27 04:21:30 AM  
1 votes:

robohobo: This is why automation is a good thing, eventually they'll be replaced by smart robots, able to take everyones silly custom orders, and employees will be cut down to the guy who performs maintenance.


...who will spit in every single machine he services.
2013-06-27 04:18:37 AM  
1 votes:

Bucky Katt: Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?

You don't have to.  No one is making you.


I'll tip $1 to every barista who gets my name correct, which means I don't tip very often.
2013-06-27 04:15:35 AM  
1 votes:

Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?


I don't go to Starbucks, which is mostly automated, but if you're making a cappuccino or latte, there's a lot of skill most people don't realize. Getting a shot to pull at the right speed, making sure the milk foams just right (very hard for a cappuccino), those are skills that you have to work at. If someone takes the time to do a professional job, they deserve more than someone that slings coffee until their novel goes big/their band makes it/their screenplay is picked up and does a crappy job at it. It's worth an extra $0.50-$1.00.
2013-06-27 04:10:21 AM  
1 votes:

cyberspacedout: I don't get it - didn't they already do this? IIRC there was an unsuccessful class action suit a number of years ago claiming that shift supervisors shouldn't have been allowed to take tips from employees, since they were considered agents of the management or something. Maybe it was just a California thing for all I know.


Thought I remembered that myself, so I googled:

Starbucks wins reversal of $100-million tips verdict
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/03/business/fi-starbucks-tips3

I remember seeing the initial verdict and wondering how the hell they could track down years' worth of past baristas to distribute all that. "Tonya Reid Jones? Formerly Tonya Reid of the Starbucks on Main Street in Shreveport? Here's the $9.41 more you should have gotten in 2005. Nowadays that'll buy you a half-'tall' of milk only. Enjoy!"
2013-06-27 04:04:39 AM  
1 votes:
Tim Horton's doesn't even have tip cups.

/just sayin'
2013-06-27 03:47:15 AM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: I'll help with Take a Penny, Leave a Penny, but I'll be goddamned if I tip some cashier for pouring me a cup of coffee.


That makes sense. But the people rolling up and ordering a $20 fru fru girly drink that takes 5 minutes to make had better farking tip for the extra work and focus involved.
2013-06-27 03:43:13 AM  
1 votes:
People tip at starbucks?  Doesn't that violate the general rules of tipping?  Counter service = no tip unless you're making unusual requests.  That's like tipping at McDonald's.  The only exception I know to the counter service rule is eating pizza at a pizza parlor for some reason.

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2013-06-27 03:42:55 AM  
1 votes:

cyberspacedout: I don't get it - didn't they already do this? IIRC there was an unsuccessful class action suit a number of years ago claiming that shift supervisors shouldn't have been allowed to take tips from employees, since they were considered agents of the management or something. Maybe it was just a California thing for all I know.


What the article never gets around to saying is that yes, this is already the way it works.
2013-06-27 03:37:58 AM  
1 votes:
I don't get it - didn't they already do this? IIRC there was an unsuccessful class action suit a number of years ago claiming that shift supervisors shouldn't have been allowed to take tips from employees, since they were considered agents of the management or something. Maybe it was just a California thing for all I know.
2013-06-27 03:34:35 AM  
1 votes:
Didn't read TFA, but sharing tips is not unusual. I doubt the shift supervisors are receiving stock options, and there aren't a lot of tips at Starbucks, so I think spreading a meager amount of joy is fair play.
2013-06-27 12:24:05 AM  
1 votes:
I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?
 
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