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(Daily Mail)   As if being a Starbucks barista doesn't suck enough that you are one to begin with, now you must share your tips with shift supervisors   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 163
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2013-06-27 04:29:02 PM

redmid17: dukeblue219: tbhouston: tips?? on a $6 cup of coffee??

Starbucks doesn't sell a $6 "cup of coffee" that I'm aware of, nor do they mandate tips.  Most people don't tip at Starbucks and it's certainly nothing you should feel obligated to do. I don't like carrying a bunch of change with me on the way to work so if it's $3.34 for my drink I'm not going to be feel bad about dropping the $.66 in a jar.

Plus there's the fact that most Starbucks have regular staff and regular customers, so you're going to see the same few people every time you go in. Most of the employees know exactly what I drink and start it immediately, and they know my name and say hi. In return, I give them a tip every so often. It's called being a nice person, not extortion as one other poster said. The barista prepping your order is not going to spit in the coffee (they make it right in front of you) just because you didn't put some change in the jar over by the registers.

My girlfriend has managed to go north of $5, so I can't imagine it's impossible to hit a $6 coffee from them.



Yes, they sell $5 coffee drinks. They do not sell anything even close to $5 for a cup of coffee. If you want a cup of coffee it's like $2 or something.

IMHO the problem is that the coffee is "tweaked" to taste good in the $5 drinks. Black it tastes like burnt bitter shiat so generally I don't go to SB at all.
 
hej
2013-06-27 04:33:57 PM

vento: If I'm sitting down and you're taking my order, bringing my order, and refilling my beverage, you get a tip.  If I stand in a line and you do nothing other than take my order and hand it to me after someone else makes it (as others have pointed out, this is exactly like McDonald's), then absolutely no tip.

I also see tip jars at Subway.  Seriously?

When did this country get all tip crazy?  Europe and the UK are *way* better at this than we are.


When the its service workers decided they liked getting extra money.
 
hej
2013-06-27 04:34:35 PM

hej: When the its service workers decided they liked getting extra money.


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2013-06-27 04:49:12 PM
I usually use the tip jar to dispose of any pennies or nickels I get as change. Otherwise they end up on my desk at home, where I'll eventually gather them up, put 'em in a plastic bag thinking I'll use them one day or roll them up and take them to the bank, which never happens.
 
2013-06-27 05:32:01 PM

redmid17: Oh and sommeliers are full of shiat. http://scienceblogs.com/cortex/2007/11/02/the-subjectivity-of-wine/


You mean wine snobs (foodies for drunkards) are full of sh*t.  Sommeliers (I was one, though I was actually the restaurant, lounge and bar manager in title, and I didn't have that ridiculous spoon) are well acquainted with the subjectivity of wine tastes.  You have to be able to read people while knowing your product (sort of) by heart.

The very few people who ever had a problem with any of my suggestions didn't know what "corked" meant and would offer bafflingly surreal descriptions about what they were tasting.

"I get a sense of kalamata olives and Baltic sea breeze, with a whiff of leather..."

"No you don't."

"The mouthfeel is tangy with a bit of copper..."

"No it isn't."

"And in the mid palate, I have wild strawberry."

"That's your Bubbleyum.  It's a one-note, overly buttery lower-shelf Sonoma chardonnay, and I think you may be having a stroke."
 
2013-06-27 05:37:59 PM

redmid17: Cabbies/Strippers make less than minimum wage (in my experience). The rest actually do jobs more difficult than making drinks.


My point was that you were being simplistic about people for whom tipping isn't even customary.  Not that it matters.  Despite that the article is about supervisors pooling with servers at Starbucks (old story) the thread quickly became a Inowannatip vs yougotsatip game of dickswords.

Also, I've noticed that when there's an intuitive, common sense pool that's not rigid and that's left up to the service staff, it's an easy agreement and everybody's happier.
 
2013-06-27 06:11:27 PM

runescorpio: Tipping as you order at a take out counter is common and usually gets you extras and free appetizers if there's a long wait.


How do the owners feel about staff taking bribes to give away the merchandise?
 
2013-06-27 06:13:50 PM

wyltoknow: Unfair would be to give the one guy making your drink a tip when all the other workers are busy stocking his supplies, ringing up his customers, and keeping the lobby clean.


Absolutely. They should make a charge for the drinks, then share a proportion of that round all the staff. Maybe call it "wages".
 
2013-06-27 09:40:35 PM

orbister: runescorpio: Tipping as you order at a take out counter is common and usually gets you extras and free appetizers if there's a long wait.

How do the owners feel about staff taking bribes to give away the merchandise?


This is allowed in most restaurants. It's called buybacks. Keeps customers happy and keeps them coming back. Giving away a plate of fries isn't going to break anyone. Most restaurants will let you know how many you can do a night.
 
2013-06-27 09:43:05 PM

Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?


I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you haven't had to support yourself on minimum wage recently.
 
2013-06-28 02:10:44 AM

hej: vento: If I'm sitting down and you're taking my order, bringing my order, and refilling my beverage, you get a tip.  If I stand in a line and you do nothing other than take my order and hand it to me after someone else makes it (as others have pointed out, this is exactly like McDonald's), then absolutely no tip.

I also see tip jars at Subway.  Seriously?

When did this country get all tip crazy?  Europe and the UK are *way* better at this than we are.

When the its service workers decided they liked getting extra money.


No.  When the state governments started to allow wait staff to be paid below minimum wage with the difference (supposedly) made up with tips.
 
2013-06-28 09:12:53 AM
Who the fark tips a barista? Do you tip the fry station guy at McDonald's, too? Jesus. It's a fast food coffee chain, people...
 
2013-06-28 09:14:20 AM

pueblonative: Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you haven't had to support yourself on minimum wage recently.


Do you tip all minimum wage food service drones?
 
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