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(Daily Mail)   As if being a Starbucks barista doesn't suck enough that you are one to begin with, now you must share your tips with shift supervisors   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 161
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2013-06-27 07:22:51 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: gerbilpox: AverageAmericanGuy: I'll help with Take a Penny, Leave a Penny, but I'll be goddamned if I tip some cashier for pouring me a cup of coffee.

You want yours without spit, don't you?

So my choice is either to give in to the extortion or suffer the consequences?

I think I'd rather take my business elsewhere.


Yeah - take it to that restaurant where assholes who stiff the help are appreciated, and treated well.
There's lot's of places like that around.
 
2013-06-27 07:24:00 AM  

jtown: People tip at starbucks?  Doesn't that violate the general rules of tipping?  Counter service = no tip unless you're making unusual requests.  That's like tipping at McDonald's.  The only exception I know to the counter service rule is eating pizza at a pizza parlor for some reason.


Tipping as you order at a take out counter is common and usually gets you extras and free appetizers if there's a long wait.
 
2013-06-27 07:25:03 AM  

jso2897: AverageAmericanGuy: gerbilpox: AverageAmericanGuy: I'll help with Take a Penny, Leave a Penny, but I'll be goddamned if I tip some cashier for pouring me a cup of coffee.

You want yours without spit, don't you?

So my choice is either to give in to the extortion or suffer the consequences?

I think I'd rather take my business elsewhere.

Yeah - take it to that restaurant where assholes who stiff the help are appreciated, and treated well.
There's lot's of places like that around.


Generally people are tipped when they provide a service, not a product. Passing a product over the counter is not a service.
 
2013-06-27 07:25:59 AM  
cman: This thread is void of much undue outrage
COME ON FARK WHERE IS MY ENTERTAINMENT?

don't be a complainer, be a doer.  take on the persona of an entitled misunderstood genius like 2and4 has and make your own fun.
 
2013-06-27 07:36:34 AM  

Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?


Well, they make more than minimum wage and most people don't tip them.
 
2013-06-27 07:40:02 AM  

Aulus: You know what?  Aside from the fact that Starbucks mostly serves swill, this just gives me all the more reason to avoid doing business with them.


Why? The guy behind the counter making your drink shouldn't get your tip if he's the most senior person back there? Do you think a head server shouldn't be tipped, either?
 
2013-06-27 07:49:43 AM  
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2013-06-27 07:49:50 AM  
I'd like to take a moment from this discussion to point out that subby's headline is a profound atrocity against the English language, and that subby should be forced to sit through a remedial headline-writing class while naked and covered in ants.
 
2013-06-27 07:50:02 AM  

thamike: redmid17: Tipping someone who makes more than minimum wage? Okay buddy.


In many places, hair stylists, strippers, and cab drivers aren't paid salary at all but literally rent their chair/time on the pole/car from the company.
 
2013-06-27 07:51:35 AM  
Have to share tips with a person who is doing all the same work as you on top of their other duties? Shock, horror, im appalled.

Oh and if you dont see the.point of tipping people behind the counter then just go ahead and dont do it. If it makes you feel better to be a bitter smarmy bastard by gloating that you dont tip then, well, more power to ya.
 
2013-06-27 07:52:57 AM  

OgreMagi: Starbucks pays above the minimum wage. And the "shift supervisor" isn't some overpaid manager type. They are more akin to "lead person" and typically don't make much more than the baristas. Sharing tips is the right thing to do.


Came here to say this. A shift is just the person in charge who made sure sht got done because the manager isn't there every hour of the day. I don't recall, because I've slept several times since then, but there isn't a pay raise to speak of. At least, I don't think I got one. They're there on the floor in the same capacity as baristas when it comes to customers, if not moreso. Everyone who works that day, excluding manager and assistant manager, are pro-rated the tips FOR THE DAY, based on the hours you worked. I never had a problem with this, even as a barista.
.... People give tips who want to be nice; it's not required. So, sharing with everyone what little scraps you get is the (again) right thing to do.
 
2013-06-27 07:53:06 AM  
tips?? on a $6 cup of coffee??
 
2013-06-27 07:53:32 AM  

Aulus: You know what?  Aside from the fact that Starbucks mostly serves swill, this just gives me all the more reason to avoid doing business with them.


I agree. when I give a tip, I expect it to go to the one serving me, not the whole friggin' lot. To me THAT is unfair.It is my saying "Good Job" to the one serving me, not for Penis McPenis in the corner picking his nose....

/course I also dislike Starbucks, so this just makes sure I won't go there.
 
2013-06-27 07:53:52 AM  

meanmutton: thamike: redmid17: Tipping someone who makes more than minimum wage? Okay buddy.

In many places, hair stylists, strippers, and cab drivers aren't paid salary at all but literally rent their chair/time on the pole/car from the company.


Hey, someone else who knows something about less than minimum wage employees! How ya doin?
 
2013-06-27 08:00:00 AM  

People_are_Idiots: Aulus: You know what?  Aside from the fact that Starbucks mostly serves swill, this just gives me all the more reason to avoid doing business with them.

I agree. when I give a tip, I expect it to go to the one serving me, not the whole friggin' lot. To me THAT is unfair.It is my saying "Good Job" to the one serving me, not for Penis McPenis in the corner picking his nose....

/course I also dislike Starbucks, so this just makes sure I won't go there.


Unfair would be to give the one guy making your drink a tip when all the other workers are busy stocking his supplies, ringing up his customers, and keeping the lobby clean. Its a team effort. Of course, you dislike starbucks and apparently dont go there, so I dont know why you're even commenting on their policies.
 
2013-06-27 08:04:56 AM  

worldeater: Given that Starbucks is so popular with the Lefties, I don't see why there's any outrage at this form of income redistribution.


I think it is just popular with people who like to spend a lot of money for their coffee.

redmid17: meanmutton: thamike: redmid17: Tipping someone who makes more than minimum wage? Okay buddy.

In many places, hair stylists, strippers, and cab drivers aren't paid salary at all but literally rent their chair/time on the pole/car from the company.

Hey, someone else who knows something about less than minimum wage employees! How ya doin?


"Dancers" too!
 
2013-06-27 08:06:53 AM  
I work at Starbucks so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

But really, a shift supervisor is no different from a team lead or anything. It's an extra 1-2$ per hour to do all of the barista duties and count tills at the end of the night. We're not salary, we're not full time, we just have slightly more responsibilities than a barista (cash management and keys to the store). So yes, shifts deserve to split the tips.

Assistant and Store managers are salaried and work 40+ hours a week and they rightfully do not get tips.

/Love my job
//kickass health insurance for 20 hours a week
///going to be sad when I finish my degree and quit
 
2013-06-27 08:12:23 AM  

SarahDiddle: I work at Starbucks so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

But really, a shift supervisor is no different from a team lead or anything. It's an extra 1-2$ per hour to do all of the barista duties and count tills at the end of the night. We're not salary, we're not full time, we just have slightly more responsibilities than a barista (cash management and keys to the store). So yes, shifts deserve to split the tips.

Assistant and Store managers are salaried and work 40+ hours a week and they rightfully do not get tips.

/Love my job
//kickass health insurance for 20 hours a week
///going to be sad when I finish my degree and quit


Don't get too optimistic about quiting.
 
2013-06-27 08:19:23 AM  
The tip "jar" at the local University Starbucks where I live usually seems to have between six and seven hundred thousand bucks in it every day.
 
2013-06-27 08:20:48 AM  
I went to Starbucks the morning of Christmas Eve and got three drinks.

I tipped them $20 because it's Christmas Eve and they're at work (I've done my bid in retail) and damnit the people at that Starbucks are always in a great mood.

The year before I worked Christmas Eve and alli got was called a dumb coont by a woman whose husband had just beat the hell out of her. :(
 
2013-06-27 08:21:03 AM  
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2013-06-27 08:22:50 AM  
If you don't like it move to Massachusetts, where a court reached the opposite conclusion.  Shift supervisors can't be in a tip pool.
 
2013-06-27 08:24:42 AM  
My wife worked for a year as a barista at Starbucks between college and grad school.  She really enjoyed it, got paid well (plus a couple extra bucks / hr in tips), got health benefits, even stock options at reduced rates.

Sorry hipsters and haters, it is a good company that treats its employees very well.
 
2013-06-27 08:28:11 AM  
Typically, hourly tips are way more than the pay difference between shift supervisor and barista.  So essentially the outrage is that the lowest level workers aren't taking home more money than the second-lowest level workers, who are typically better and do the same work, but with additional responsibilities.
 
2013-06-27 08:30:54 AM  

meanmutton: SarahDiddle: I work at Starbucks so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

But really, a shift supervisor is no different from a team lead or anything. It's an extra 1-2$ per hour to do all of the barista duties and count tills at the end of the night. We're not salary, we're not full time, we just have slightly more responsibilities than a barista (cash management and keys to the store). So yes, shifts deserve to split the tips.

Assistant and Store managers are salaried and work 40+ hours a week and they rightfully do not get tips.

/Love my job
//kickass health insurance for 20 hours a week
///going to be sad when I finish my degree and quit

Don't get too optimistic about quiting.


I don't think it'll be permanent because I'm going into teaching but if I have to stay or go back to the company I won't mind. They treat ALL their employees well with everyone (including baristas) getting PTO, stock grants, discounted stock, tuition reimbursement, matching to our 401k, health/dental insurance, maternity leave (75% pay for 2 months)... it's a great job honestly.
 
2013-06-27 08:31:18 AM  
My teen daughter got a second job at Cold Stone Creamery this year.  They have a tip jar that is taken to the back office each night by the manager.  Then it is supposedly split up and included in their paychecks.

I'm a suspicious bastard so I assume once the door is closed the manager is taking their pick of pre-tax tips.
 
2013-06-27 08:33:22 AM  
I worked at Starbucks in college and it was awesome. I seriously miss it sometimes. Almost all of the employees were students so everyone was pretty laid back about the job itself and the customers were great too. This was several years ago when Starbucks wasn't quite as ubiquitous as it is now, so it was still sort of a new thing to a lot of people.

I liked working there so much that I didn't even mind the 5am shift.

Health insurance for employees working 20hrs/wk, free coffee(say what you will about the beans, free coffee to a college student is free coffee), we also did have stock options and I think there was tuition reimbursement in some cases.
 
2013-06-27 08:35:49 AM  

tbhouston: tips?? on a $6 cup of coffee??


Starbucks doesn't sell a $6 "cup of coffee" that I'm aware of, nor do they mandate tips.  Most people don't tip at Starbucks and it's certainly nothing you should feel obligated to do. I don't like carrying a bunch of change with me on the way to work so if it's $3.34 for my drink I'm not going to be feel bad about dropping the $.66 in a jar.

Plus there's the fact that most Starbucks have regular staff and regular customers, so you're going to see the same few people every time you go in. Most of the employees know exactly what I drink and start it immediately, and they know my name and say hi. In return, I give them a tip every so often. It's called being a nice person, not extortion as one other poster said. The barista prepping your order is not going to spit in the coffee (they make it right in front of you) just because you didn't put some change in the jar over by the registers.
 
2013-06-27 08:37:52 AM  

dukeblue219: tbhouston: tips?? on a $6 cup of coffee??

Starbucks doesn't sell a $6 "cup of coffee" that I'm aware of, nor do they mandate tips.  Most people don't tip at Starbucks and it's certainly nothing you should feel obligated to do. I don't like carrying a bunch of change with me on the way to work so if it's $3.34 for my drink I'm not going to be feel bad about dropping the $.66 in a jar.

Plus there's the fact that most Starbucks have regular staff and regular customers, so you're going to see the same few people every time you go in. Most of the employees know exactly what I drink and start it immediately, and they know my name and say hi. In return, I give them a tip every so often. It's called being a nice person, not extortion as one other poster said. The barista prepping your order is not going to spit in the coffee (they make it right in front of you) just because you didn't put some change in the jar over by the registers.


My girlfriend has managed to go north of $5, so I can't imagine it's impossible to hit a $6 coffee from them.
 
2013-06-27 08:40:16 AM  
No Mr. Pink yet? FARK, I am dissapoint....
 
2013-06-27 08:45:37 AM  

911Jenny: I went to Starbucks the morning of Christmas Eve and got three drinks.

I tipped them $20 because it's Christmas Eve and they're at work (I've done my bid in retail) and damnit the people at that Starbucks are always in a great mood.

The year before I worked Christmas Eve and alli got was called a dumb coont by a woman whose husband had just beat the hell out of her. :(


That's why I keep saying everyone should be required to do at least one of the following:
-work retail
-work food service

Excellent attitude changer.
 
2013-06-27 08:48:56 AM  

Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?


I sure don't. And i blame Starbucks for the nefarious practice of putting tip jars in every place of business.

At least Flo down at the greasy spoon would bring my cuppa to me.
 
2013-06-27 08:49:01 AM  

Bucky Katt: Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?

You don't have to.  No one is making you.


You don't have to, but when did it become expected to tip counter service? I see this tip jars everywhere and I have to ask what service did you provide?
 
2013-06-27 08:49:35 AM  
Did a GIS for "sharing tips." Had to reset to Safe Search.
 
2013-06-27 08:50:47 AM  
OgreMagi: Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?

Starbucks pays above the minimum wage. And the "shift supervisor" isn't some overpaid manager type.  They are more akin to "lead person" and typically don't make much more than the baristas.
Sharing tips is the right thing to do.


Can't agree with this.  When I tip I leave it for the server and the busser.  I've known of places where a really great position, a position that should be well paid is brought down to the income level of a part time Vets Club bartender by spending the servers tips.  For example, dishwashers, prep cooks, pantry cooks should not be tipped positions.  If you want to kick the broiler cook a few bucks at the end of a shift that's up to you but for management to dictate how you distribute money that was intended for you is inappropriate.  It's up to management to PAY those positions.  If you decide  you've made enough and want to be generous that's up to you.  If you feel that you couldn't have made that much cash with out the above and beyond efforts of the support staff that's up to you.

To me, it's just typical management crap to dodge paying a fair wage.  FWIW, most dishwashers I've known (in nearly 20 years of hospitality work) had their pay check subsidized (in some cases +50%) by the Easter Seals Foundation and so in effect were virtually free to the employer.

I'm not as likely to visit a place that mandates spreading my intended filthy lucre around to people I'll never meet.
 
2013-06-27 08:50:55 AM  

2and4: Alphakronik: Bucky Katt: Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?

You don't have to.  No one is making you.

I'll tip $1 to every barista who gets my name correct, which means I don't tip very often.

Let me guess, you tip $1 to every bartender that makes you the perfect gin and tonic, whether you know their name or not. Maybe you should learn your barista's name, asshole.
/if you can't afford the tip, make it at home


What service did a baraista supply? Did they spend more then 5 minutes talking to me? Did they recommend something I might like? No? Then they are no better then counter help at McDonald's or Greeters at Walmart.
 
2013-06-27 08:51:10 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: No Mr. Pink yet? FARK, I am dissapoint....


First page, about 1/5th of the way down.
 
2013-06-27 08:52:21 AM  

ImmaHoopyFrood: My teen daughter got a second job at Cold Stone Creamery this year.  They have a tip jar that is taken to the back office each night by the manager.  Then it is supposedly split up and included in their paychecks.

I'm a suspicious bastard so I assume once the door is closed the manager is taking their pick of pre-tax tips.


That's the other reason i don't put money in those tip jars. I assume that's exactly what happens.
 
2013-06-27 08:53:52 AM  

Slaves2Darkness: Bucky Katt: Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?

You don't have to.  No one is making you.

You don't have to, but when did it become expected to tip counter service? I see this tip jars everywhere and I have to ask what service did you provide?


It is not a customarily tipped profession.  It's not like a bartender, who typically gets something like 50-60% of his/her wages from tips or a server who gets 80% or a stripper who has to shell out $200 a shift just to be allowed the privilege be allowed to come in and try to get tips.  Tips make a very small percent of their take-home.
 
2013-06-27 08:54:08 AM  

redmid17: My girlfriend has managed to go north of $5, so I can't imagine it's impossible to hit a $6 coffee from them.


Maybe I'm being too pedantic, I get it. But a venti coffee is like $1.90 or something. Yes, you can hit $5 with a venti frappucino, but those are ~700 calories and really are more of a dessert or milkshake alternative and can't be compared to a coffee.
 
2013-06-27 08:55:55 AM  

SarahDiddle: meanmutton: SarahDiddle: I work at Starbucks so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

But really, a shift supervisor is no different from a team lead or anything. It's an extra 1-2$ per hour to do all of the barista duties and count tills at the end of the night. We're not salary, we're not full time, we just have slightly more responsibilities than a barista (cash management and keys to the store). So yes, shifts deserve to split the tips.

Assistant and Store managers are salaried and work 40+ hours a week and they rightfully do not get tips.

/Love my job
//kickass health insurance for 20 hours a week
///going to be sad when I finish my degree and quit

Don't get too optimistic about quiting.

I don't think it'll be permanent because I'm going into teaching but if I have to stay or go back to the company I won't mind. They treat ALL their employees well with everyone (including baristas) getting PTO, stock grants, discounted stock, tuition reimbursement, matching to our 401k, health/dental insurance, maternity leave (75% pay for 2 months)... it's a great job honestly.


Please tell me that you're planning to teach math, science, foreign language, or special ed and not elementary, art, history, gym, music, or English.
 
2013-06-27 08:58:39 AM  

Slaves2Darkness: What service did a baraista supply? Did they spend more then 5 minutes talking to me? Did they recommend something I might like? No? Then they are no better then counter help at McDonald's or Greeters at Walmart.


If you come in once and order a cup of coffee at a random Starbucks nobody in the world is going to expect you to tip. But if you come in twice a week and are greeted with a smile and they have your order going in the system before you get to the register, what's the harm in a dollar every once in a while? If I choose to leave a dollar, how does that affect you?

Also, if your barista is no friendlier than a McDonald's employee then you either have the greatest McD's in the world or the worst Starbucks.

Ragging on baristas for making too much in tips is like ragging on school teachers for being overpaid union thugs. It's ridiculous. Any former baristas care to share how much they actually made from tips? I'm quite sure it's not that much.
 
2013-06-27 08:59:03 AM  

mike_d85: WHY ARE THERE TIP JARS AT SELF SERVE FROZEN YOGURT SHOPS?!?

/I, for one, am appalled by this behavior.


The only thing that insidious practice is good for is relieving me of the 7 cents i got back as change.
 
2013-06-27 09:00:02 AM  

Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?


as a former bartender...
good luck getting prompt service
 
2013-06-27 09:05:01 AM  

jtown: People tip at starbucks?  Doesn't that violate the general rules of tipping?  Counter service = no tip unless you're making unusual requests.  That's like tipping at McDonald's.  The only exception I know to the counter service rule is eating pizza at a pizza parlor for some reason.

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I have to agree with this. I'm usually a pretty good tipper (mostly because I've worked in the service industry), but I've never tipped at a Starbucks.
 
2013-06-27 09:05:29 AM  

sn0wblind: Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?

as a former bartender...
good luck getting prompt service


From a store that queues up customers to serve them? You do understand the difference between a bar and a Starbucks right?
 
2013-06-27 09:15:32 AM  
They want me to tip them for their overpriced coffee?     Well, its a good thing that I don't go to Starbucks but maybe once per year.
 
2013-06-27 09:17:05 AM  

jso2897: Yeah - take it to that restaurant where assholes who stiff the help are appreciated, and treated well.
There's lot's of places like that around.



Starbucks is a restaurant?
 
2013-06-27 09:18:49 AM  

sn0wblind: Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?

as a former bartender...
good luck getting prompt service


Did your bar have a drive-thru? When was the last time you tipped the people at Burger King?
 
2013-06-27 09:20:23 AM  

Slaves2Darkness: Bucky Katt: Gig103: I'll get the ball rolling here. Baristas already make minimum wage, so why are we tipping them?

You don't have to.  No one is making you.

You don't have to, but when did it become expected to tip counter service? I see this tip jars everywhere and I have to ask what service did you provide?


Since when does having a tip jar out mean that one expects tips? They. dont even have a tip line on credit card receipts.
 
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