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2013-06-26 08:12:56 PM  

DeaH: MisterEZ: All2morrowsparTs: You be tollin'

Ok, let me rephrase that. Can someone with a grasp of the English language please explain to me again why it's wrong to round up all the christians and march them into ovens.

It's wrong to murder people just because they are dumb and unpleasant.


But Texas has no problem executing the mentally ill... Oh right the mentally ill in those cases are smarter then the dumb unpleasant people that are angry about this ruling.
 
2013-06-26 08:17:55 PM  
You all really don't understand the implications of this, do you? Fire? Brimstone? These aren't the tools of a truly vengeful god. A God of true power works in a different, more mysterious way.

One day when you're sinfully watching porn as your wife is out with friends for the weekend, you'll come across a thumbnail that looks so very promising, and you'll click it, hand in your pants. Breathlessly skipping ahead to your favorite position, you'll see skin on skin, the hottest scene you've ever watched. The camera will slowly pull back, and it's two dudes. Because of marriage equality, two dudes will be banging on your straight tube site, and you'll have liked it.

That's the new Obama America.
 
2013-06-26 08:20:21 PM  
Ralph Reed was having a flabbergasm on twitter.  Apparently he doesn't even have a  4th grade social studies understanding level of law.
 
2013-06-26 08:21:27 PM  

Weaver95: gilgigamesh: Weaver95: There is a stench coming from this case that has now stained the Supreme Court.

Santorum?

I got home from work just a bit ago (ahead of a thunderstorm in fact) and i'm catching up on the news that I missed.  the evangelicals are PISSED!


Fark 'em. Fark 'em right in their hate-filled, bigoted ear.
 
2013-06-26 08:23:04 PM  

Lackofname: For Europe permitting all those gays to marry, and being so heathen, God sure has punished them with... um... hm.


Well, the Netherlands did have a chilly spring.
 
2013-06-26 08:23:33 PM  

thamike: flabbergasm


That word is perfectly cromulent.
 
2013-06-26 08:24:00 PM  

Weaver95: that is one very angry looking white guy.


Looks like he has a wide stance.
 
2013-06-26 08:24:20 PM  

johnnieconnie: I believe we have a new "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!?!" pic:


[i.imgur.com image 410x280]


i915.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-26 08:38:02 PM  

what_now: That dude looks suuuper gay.


If that is the guy I heard on NPR today, and I do think it is, he sounded much more effeminate than the other guy they interviewed who was looking forward to marrying his husband.
Why do so many homphobes sound so flaming?
 
2013-06-26 08:40:37 PM  

spongeboob: If that is the guy I heard on NPR today, and I do think it is, he sounded much more effeminate than the other guy they interviewed who was looking forward to marrying his husband.
Why do so many homphobes sound so flaming?


I'm going to go with "self-loathing".
 
2013-06-26 08:55:19 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: You all really don't understand the implications of this, do you? Fire? Brimstone? These aren't the tools of a truly vengeful god. A God of true power works in a different, more mysterious way.

One day when you're sinfully watching porn as your wife is out with friends for the weekend, you'll come across a thumbnail that looks so very promising, and you'll click it, hand in your pants. Breathlessly skipping ahead to your favorite position, you'll see skin on skin, the hottest scene you've ever watched. The camera will slowly pull back, and it's two dudes. Because of marriage equality, two dudes will be banging on your straight tube site, and you'll have liked it.

That's the new Obama America.


Between you and the guy going camping with his just a friend, this thread has gotten HAWT!
 
2013-06-26 08:56:51 PM  

MisterEZ: Ok, let me rephrase that. Can someone with a grasp of the English language please explain to me again why it's wrong to round up all the christians and march them into ovens.


Greenhouse gasses.
 
2013-06-26 09:00:19 PM  

poopsoup48: DeaH: MisterEZ: All2morrowsparTs: You be tollin'

Ok, let me rephrase that. Can someone with a grasp of the English language please explain to me again why it's wrong to round up all the christians and march them into ovens.

It's wrong to murder people just because they are dumb and unpleasant.

But Texas has no problem executing the mentally ill... Oh right the mentally ill in those cases are smarter then the dumb unpleasant people that are angry about this ruling.


Don't you think it's a good rule of thumb to try to be better than the State of Texas?
 
2013-06-26 09:07:00 PM  

Dimensio: Nothing. Their fear is that legal recognition of same-sex unions will cause no harm at all, and that the public at large will recognize that the expressed concerns of same-sex marriage opponents are at best delusions and at worst willful lies. Rejected as delusional or dishonest, those opponents will lose their credibility, and they will witness the loss of their influence, and their ability to hold a fearful audience in sway, and thus they will lose the support through which they receive substantial monetary donations and political power. In short, they will be exposed as frauds, and they will lose the empires on which their fraud has been built.

That is the terrifying outcome.


Great point. Can I also add money? Think of the amount of money that all these groups will lose if they no longer have anything to fight against. If marriage equality becomes the norm then Focus on the Family and others like them will not be able to convince the rubes to send them $$$ to fight the good fight any more. That's why they're so pissed off. It's ALWAYS about the money.
 
2013-06-26 09:10:56 PM  

draa: That's why they're so pissed off. It's ALWAYS about the money.


Do you really believe none of them are sincere?
 
2013-06-26 09:27:57 PM  
I wish they'd stop pretending they're anything good and just join Westboro BC with their yelling.  Bigots are bigots.
 
2013-06-26 09:30:41 PM  

Weaver95: you should read Limbaugh's transcript of today's show.  Rush is pushing the 'ITS NOT LEGITIMATE' thing pretty hard core.  plus a whole lot of blah blah american is doomed blah blah bullshiat.


How many legitimate marriages has he had now?
 
2013-06-26 09:30:48 PM  
x37.xanga.com

Bigotry kills whether overtly or at the souls of the persecuted.
 
2013-06-26 09:32:38 PM  

youncasqua: draa: That's why they're so pissed off. It's ALWAYS about the money.

Do you really believe none of them are sincere?


Who said anything about insincerity? Their love of money is, no doubt, quite sincere.
 
2013-06-26 09:56:48 PM  

ShawnDoc: Confabulat: So what do they think is going to happen exactly? Meteors and hellfire? God turning his back on the USA? Children growing up learning to accept homosexuality as normal?

What's the terrifying outcome again?

He going to send giant tornados to wipe out Oklahoma.  Oh wait, that was last month.


Once again demonstrating that their omniscient, omnipotent deity has really bad aim.
 
2013-06-26 10:10:09 PM  

draa: Dimensio: Nothing. Their fear is that legal recognition of same-sex unions will cause no harm at all, and that the public at large will recognize that the expressed concerns of same-sex marriage opponents are at best delusions and at worst willful lies. Rejected as delusional or dishonest, those opponents will lose their credibility, and they will witness the loss of their influence, and their ability to hold a fearful audience in sway, and thus they will lose the support through which they receive substantial monetary donations and political power. In short, they will be exposed as frauds, and they will lose the empires on which their fraud has been built.

That is the terrifying outcome.

Great point. Can I also add money? Think of the amount of money that all these groups will lose if they no longer have anything to fight against. If marriage equality becomes the norm then Focus on the Family and others like them will not be able to convince the rubes to send them $$$ to fight the good fight any more. That's why they're so pissed off. It's ALWAYS about the money.


That cuts both ways. The HRC and GLAAD need money, too.  Fortunately for both sides, there are still 37 states to fight for.  Plus ENDA, of course.
 
2013-06-26 10:30:24 PM  
NOM should be counting their blessings. Because if Prop 8 had been considered, it might have been found unconstitutional, and probably would have given Kennedy's vote against DOMA. And said ruling would have had effect in every jurisdiction in America, making laws against gay marriage unconstitutional all over the U.S. In keeping with procedural tradition, the SCOTUS saved anti-gay marriage advocates an even bigger defeat.
 
2013-06-26 11:19:05 PM  

Cytokine Storm: Enjoy your sin, America.


You... I like you.
 
2013-06-26 11:23:29 PM  
There's a name for people who complain about things that have no discernible impact on themselves.

Whiners.

That's all the anti-marriage equality crowd is, a bunch of whiny little biatches who can't stand that other people don't believe as they do.

They can all go get farked with rusty gardening tools.
 
2013-06-27 12:27:02 AM  

draa: Dimensio: Nothing. Their fear is that legal recognition of same-sex unions will cause no harm at all, and that the public at large will recognize that the expressed concerns of same-sex marriage opponents are at best delusions and at worst willful lies. Rejected as delusional or dishonest, those opponents will lose their credibility, and they will witness the loss of their influence, and their ability to hold a fearful audience in sway, and thus they will lose the support through which they receive substantial monetary donations and political power. In short, they will be exposed as frauds, and they will lose the empires on which their fraud has been built.

That is the terrifying outcome.

Great point. Can I also add money? Think of the amount of money that all these groups will lose if they no longer have anything to fight against. If marriage equality becomes the norm then Focus on the Family and others like them will not be able to convince the rubes to send them $$$ to fight the good fight any more. That's why they're so pissed off. It's ALWAYS about the money.


I did address the loss of monetary contributions. Ultimately, yes, many opponents of same-sex marriage fear that the exposure of their cause as fraudulent will cause them to lose a source of income.
 
2013-06-27 01:34:47 AM  

Confabulat: So what do they think is going to happen exactly? Meteors and hellfire? God turning his back on the USA? Children growing up learning to accept homosexuality as normal?

What's the terrifying outcome again?


The was a post in here yesterday trying to link storms and droughts to guy marriage decisions made in April, saying that the storms happened the very next month.

If it was trolling, it's the best I've ever seen, nothing truly inflammatory, stated like a true recitation of the 'facts' of correlation being equal to causation. And none of the Pat Robertson type theatrics, either.

This person was dead serious.

Now one of the theories about how acceptance seems to be picking up speed is that people are seeing that storms of fire and brimstone AREN'T occurring, so they're taking more chances. I think it's because the new generation of Right Wing voters aren't quite the bigoted assholes their parents were, they've known guy people their whole lives, and have no problems with them. Obviously this isn't 100‰, but I think we're going to see a more normal type of Republican slowly taking over, one that will make this whole 'being an Independent' thing a while lot easier, since I've pretty much run out of Republicans and Republican causes I can support at the present time. It gets really hard when I have a choice between supporting a Democrat or Democrat cause that I don't like, or supporting someone from the Obstructionist Party. I end up not voting at all, which is about as useful as tits on a fish.
 
2013-06-27 01:38:01 AM  
i41.tinypic.com

LITERALLY!
 
2013-06-27 01:51:45 AM  

deffuse:  "no man, not even a Supreme Court, can undo what a holy God has instituted."
Well, until "holy God" shows up and tells us we are wrong, I'm just going to keep on not minding that gay people can get the same rights as straight people.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure that God is over all of that Old Testament bullshiat. Besides, this really just covers the CIVIL part of marriage, they can keep denying them the "God" part.

As long as the people have the right to get married, that's all that matters, and I think the occasional guy couple that tries to force a church to download it are just being assholes anyway. The rights are what matters, why should they want to get married at a church that despises them anyway? There are plenty of other options that don't involve the J.P.

The introduction of Gay Marriage is going to require a lot of laws to be rewritten though. Everything related to marriage and divorce that mentions 'man, woman, husband and wife' needs to be made gender neutral, and fast. Otherwise divorces and wills are gonna get real confused real quick.

I need last thing the feds have to do here: There has to be some federal provision for couples married in states allowing guy marriage if something happens in another state. Whether it's hospital visitation, alimony/palimony issues, or next of kin situations, the non gay marriage states have to respect these marriages to at least some extent. Not allowing it is one thing, but denying them the rights that go along with a marriage because they don't condone that marriage, even though it is legal would be bullshiat. I'm sure they have a policy in place when someone gets married in a state where the age of consent is low and then moves to one where it's higher, it's not like the marriage is voided and the people are committing statutory rape the second they cross the border, same thing needs to happen for gay marriage, and the feds needn't make the law.
 
2013-06-27 02:00:32 AM  
With mankind's poor track record for understanding and communicating god's will I would not be surprised to learn god jumped for joy that even a part of the attack on gay couples act was tossed out.
 
2013-06-27 03:11:38 AM  

Lanadapter: With mankind's poor track record for understanding and communicating god's will I would not be surprised to learn god jumped for joy that even a part of the attack on gay couples act was tossed out.


Well, if God bothered to communicate in a more direct and verifiable manner we might have a chance of figuring out what He wants.
 
2013-06-27 03:23:52 AM  
Mikey1969: The introduction of Gay Marriage is going to require a lot of laws to be rewritten though. Everything related to marriage and divorce that mentions 'man, woman, husband and wife' needs to be made gender neutral, and fast. Otherwise divorces and wills are gonna get real confused real quick.

There are federal regulations, mostly regarding benefits, that will have to be re-issued, but wrt estates and divorces, those are state matters; the feds have nothing to do with those.

Mikey1969: I need last thing the feds have to do here: There has to be some federal provision for couples married in states allowing guy marriage if something happens in another state. Whether it's hospital visitation, alimony/palimony issues, or next of kin situations, the non gay marriage states have to respect these marriages to at least some extent. Not allowing it is one thing, but denying them the rights that go along with a marriage because they don't condone that marriage, even though it is legal would be bullshiat. I'm sure they have a policy in place when someone gets married in a state where the age of consent is low and then moves to one where it's higher, it's not like the marriage is voided and the people are committing statutory rape the second they cross the border, same thing needs to happen for gay marriage, and the feds needn't make the law.

Reciprocity has been a traditional courtesy amongst the states, but that doesn't mean it's required of them. That's actually the issue at hand: can the decision of one state force another state to make that same decision. Of course, reciprocity has tended to involve a lot less polarizing matters like certain types of licenses and certifications (the driver's license is the most familiar).
 
2013-06-27 04:26:00 AM  

inglixthemad: Lackofname: For Europe permitting all those gays to marry, and being so heathen, God sure has punished them with... um... hm.

Well, the Netherlands did have a chilly spring.


I'll say. It's been rainy all week.
 
2013-06-27 04:38:10 AM  

SphericalTime: inglixthemad: Lackofname: For Europe permitting all those gays to marry, and being so heathen, God sure has punished them with... um... hm.

Well, the Netherlands did have a chilly spring.

I'll say. It's been rainy all week.


There are thunderstorms nearby but that can't be right since I'm in god fearing Alabama.
 
2013-06-27 05:56:25 AM  

Confabulat: So what do they think is going to happen exactly? Meteors and hellfire? God turning his back on the USA? Children growing up learning to accept homosexuality as normal?

What's the terrifying outcome again?


Evidence their planned theocracy isn't likely to happen?
 
2013-06-27 06:16:16 AM  
Hmm... I am still a bit concerned. Abortion was considered settled (even if loathed) by conservatives in the 90's. And then the slow response culminating in apeshiat actions in the state legislatures has now left abortion under heavy attack.

Gay marriage as a controversy is not going to go away. To the extent that the Republican party remains in its current form, gay marriage opponents are betting that the political tide will change for unrelated reasons and opportunities will rise again to cram these nonsensical arguments of morality down the throats of a populace who does not care to hear them.

/if you're against abortion, don't get one (oh wait, they still do)
//if you're against gay marriage, don't have one or perform one
///don't tell the rest of us how to live our lives through your morality
 
2013-06-27 06:30:31 AM  

yusyusyus: Hmm... I am still a bit concerned. Abortion was considered settled (even if loathed) by conservatives in the 90's. And then the slow response culminating in apeshiat actions in the state legislatures has now left abortion under heavy attack.

Gay marriage as a controversy is not going to go away. To the extent that the Republican party remains in its current form, gay marriage opponents are betting that the political tide will change for unrelated reasons and opportunities will rise again to cram these nonsensical arguments of morality down the throats of a populace who does not care to hear them.

/if you're against abortion, don't get one (oh wait, they still do)
//if you're against gay marriage, don't have one or perform one
///don't tell the rest of us how to live our lives through your morality


But what if a those politicians and preachers had to marry their rent boys? Can't you see why they're scared?
: )
 
2013-06-27 07:46:00 AM  
codergirl42:

[i755.photobucket.com image 320x240]

I've been ignorant for too long and am finally going to ask...who is this guy?  I mean, he looks hilarious, and I want to see whatever video this is from.  Help?
 
2013-06-27 08:17:36 AM  
DID

ANYONE


POINT OUT

THIS DUDE LOOKS

GAYER THAN MARCUS BACHMANN
 
2013-06-27 08:27:43 AM  
You can't stop the homomentum!
 
2013-06-27 08:40:08 AM  

MisterEZ: All2morrowsparTs: You be tollin'

Ok, let me rephrase that. Can someone with a grasp of the English language please explain to me again why it's wrong to round up all the christians and march them into ovens.


Because then we would be no better than they are. If we granted anyone the power to eliminate people merely for believing stupid things, then we would invariably fall victim to the same fate when someone decided that we are the "enemy other". Out of sheer self defense, we must refrain from giving into the same repulsive xenophobia exhibited by this small group of loud-mouthed imbeciles.

Is that erudite enough for you?
 
2013-06-27 08:44:45 AM  

youncasqua: draa: That's why they're so pissed off. It's ALWAYS about the money.

Do you really believe none of them are sincere?


Sorry I didn't respond back in a timely matter so I'll respond now.

Yes, surely some are sincere but for the most part I think it's about losing a solid revenue stream. These groups stand to lose millions even if 37 states are still left to fight in. There's just less and less reasons to continue to fight something that's inevitable and bound to happen in the end. People will just stop caring and stop giving cash and I think that scares some of these groups more than two dudes getting married. Not to mention it's one less thing they have in their holster to get people to listen to Republicans with, and right now, Republicans can use all the weapons they've got. Too bad for them they've just lost a big one.
 
2013-06-27 09:08:18 AM  

karmachameleon: codergirl42:

[i755.photobucket.com image 320x240]

I've been ignorant for too long and am finally going to ask...who is this guy?  I mean, he looks hilarious, and I want to see whatever video this is from.  Help?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI
 
2013-06-27 09:19:37 AM  

scottydoesntknow: I think he seriously wanted this to happen. This is his gravy train, and he can continue to ride it as long as he keeps losing, because he's "fighting the good fight".


THIS. VanderPlaats in Iowa is riding the same train conning the rubes at every stop.
 
2013-06-27 09:35:26 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: gilgigamesh: "The Supreme Court's holding that proponents of an initiative had no legal right to appeal ignores California law and rewards corrupt politicians for abandoning their duty to defend traditional marriage laws.

I just love how activists can take the most vanilla procedural ruling and turn it into the moral outrage of the century.

This was an easy question. It is first year civil procedure for chrissake. This is the equivalent of declaring a holy war when you find out the DMV is closed on Saturdays.

We would have also accepted going on a rampage after finding out McDonalds stopped serving breakfast 5 minutes ago.


D-FENS.
 
2013-06-27 09:43:23 AM  

gingerjet: Weaver95: if I were still a conservative I wouldn't know what to say about how things were going lately.  no matter how you slice it, the past couple of years have been nothing but major defeats for the GOP legislative agenda.

At the federal level yes.  At the state level they are doing a bang up job of passing the GOP legislative agenda.

/see State of Texas
//State of Kansas
///State of Wisconsin
////State of New Jersey
//State of North Dakota
/State of Slashy



Go fark yourself. Seriously. Don't ever lump NJ in with those 4 shiatholes.

/NJ has civil unions, and the legislature is working to override Christie's veto.
//But you knew that, right?
 
2013-06-27 10:04:31 AM  

Weaver95: Craptastic: Weaver95: you should read Limbaugh's transcript of today's show.  Rush is pushing the 'ITS NOT LEGITIMATE' thing pretty hard core.  plus a whole lot of blah blah american is doomed blah blah bullshiat.

I listened to a bit of it.

"President Oooobama was against gay marriage until he was for it *huff puff huff puff*!

if I were still a conservative I wouldn't know what to say about how things were going lately.  no matter how you slice it, the past couple of years have been nothing but major defeats for the GOP legislative agenda.


It's God's will...
 
2013-06-27 10:05:52 AM  

karmachameleon: codergirl42:

[i755.photobucket.com image 320x240]

I've been ignorant for too long and am finally going to ask...who is this guy?  I mean, he looks hilarious, and I want to see whatever video this is from.  Help?


It's From A Wrestling Interview The Guy Cried Like A Little Girl About How Awesome The Wrestlers Were. It's Means "Its Still Real To Me"
 
2013-06-27 10:14:32 AM  
Now THIS is a complete waste of time and money.  Not only are most conservatives on the wrong side of history on this one, they're wasting a ton of resources on it.
 
2013-06-27 10:15:38 AM  

Ricardo Klement: Now THIS is a complete waste of time and money.  Not only are most conservatives on the wrong side of history on this one, they're wasting a ton of resources on it.


You make it sound like there are issues that conservatives are on the right side of history.
 
2013-06-27 10:21:00 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Ricardo Klement: Now THIS is a complete waste of time and money.  Not only are most conservatives on the wrong side of history on this one, they're wasting a ton of resources on it.

You make it sound like there are issues that conservatives are on the right side of history.


There are.  According to many Democrats, in the '90s, conservatives were on the right side of history when it came to health care.

/Boom!
 
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