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(The Week)   Now this is the first I'm hearing of this, but apparently, some of the people opposed to immigration reform are NOT doing so based on principled economic analysis but from an innate fear or hatred of people from culture different from theirs   (theweek.com ) divider line
    More: Obvious, immigration reform, Mickey Kaus, Western civilizations, opposition to immigration, sub-Saharan Africans, Chinese people, hate, cultures  
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2013-06-26 05:29:45 PM  
Racists? How shocking. Really. Give me a moment to try to find some way to register my shock . . .
 
2013-06-26 05:34:05 PM  
Nonsense, subby! Why do you think the GOP has been fighting tooth and nail to get a heavily militarized border separating the US from Canada?
 
2013-06-26 05:35:26 PM  
Seriously, nothing gets Arizona racists more butthurt than pointing out them that their "immigration reform" is aimed at controlling brown people they by and large loathe and wish to treat like 2nd class human beings.
 
2013-06-26 05:38:08 PM  
I'm opposed to illegal immigration because of the murderers who used to live in my neighborhood.

Legal status, not color.

Immigration reform is going to give amnesty to employers, employees and shareholders. It is, like everything else tied to illegal immigration, only about the money.
 
2013-06-26 05:44:24 PM  
"London is no longer an English city which is why I love Bath," he said. "That's how they sold it for the Olympics, not as the capital of England but as the cosmopolitan city. I love being down in Bath because it feels like the England that I grew up in."
 
2013-06-26 05:56:04 PM  
Maybe they're just old fashioned and clinging to the "rule of law".
 
2013-06-26 05:56:35 PM  

TedDalton: "London is no longer an English city which is why I love Bath," he said. "That's how they sold it for the Olympics, not as the capital of England but as the cosmopolitan city. I love being down in Bath because it feels like the England that I grew up in."


oswald moseley?
 
2013-06-26 05:58:40 PM  

FlashHarry: oswald moseley?


with his swastika tattoo?
 
2013-06-26 05:59:16 PM  
Let me go get my shocked face *rummages around under the bed, blows off dust*... here we go.
Seriously, does this even come close to being a surprise?
 
2013-06-26 06:00:41 PM  
You're the real racist, subby.
 
2013-06-26 06:12:52 PM  
How I imagine the GOP's ideal 4th of July:

It's flying something behind it and I can't quite make it out. It's a large banner and it says H A P P Y... F O U R T  H... of July from G... O... P! What a sight, ladies and gentlemen. What a sight. The 'copter seems to circling the parking area now. I guess it's looking for a place to land. No! Something just came out of the back of a helicopter. It's a dark object, perhaps a skydiver plummeting to the earth from only two thousand feet in the air... There's a third... No parachutes yet... Those can't be skydivers. I can't tell just yet what they are but...  Oh my God! They're immigrants! Oh no! Johnny can you get this? Oh, they're crashing to the earth right in front of our eyes! One just went through the windshield of a parked car! This is terrible! Everyone's running around pushing each other. Oh my goodness! Oh, the humanity! People are running about. The deportees are hitting the ground like sacks of wet cement!
 
2013-06-26 06:22:42 PM  
When sub-Saharan Africans or mestizos start pumping out scientific and technological marvels at the rate that Europeans have been doing for centuries

Someone really needs to read this:

img1.imagesbn.com
 
2013-06-26 06:27:05 PM  
If you don't like immigrants, you don't like America and you need to get the fark out.
 
2013-06-26 06:30:20 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: I'm opposed to illegal immigration because of the murderers who used to live in my neighborhood.

Legal status, not color.

Immigration reform is going to give amnesty to employers, employees and shareholders. It is, like everything else tied to illegal immigration, only about the money.


My old neighborhood has a large Latino immigrant community (many illegal) to support all the local farming going on.  I've never met such a nice group of people in my life.
 
2013-06-26 06:42:27 PM  
No way! At least the Know-Nothings were unsullied by the scourge of racism, amirite?
 
2013-06-26 06:49:50 PM  

fusillade762: When sub-Saharan Africans or mestizos start pumping out scientific and technological marvels at the rate that Europeans have been doing for centuries

Someone really needs to read this:

[img1.imagesbn.com image 260x396]


I second that. Good book. Good author. "Collapse" is also worthwhile.
 
2013-06-26 06:58:25 PM  
I wonder why the GOP would be worried about how a minority would be treated at the hands of the majority?

We're all Americans after all!
 
2013-06-26 07:00:32 PM  

Leo Bloom's Freakout: How I imagine the GOP's ideal 4th of July:

It's flying something behind it and I can't quite make it out. It's a large banner and it says H A P P Y... F O U R T  H... of July from G... O... P! What a sight, ladies and gentlemen. What a sight. The 'copter seems to circling the parking area now. I guess it's looking for a place to land. No! Something just came out of the back of a helicopter. It's a dark object, perhaps a skydiver plummeting to the earth from only two thousand feet in the air... There's a third... No parachutes yet... Those can't be skydivers. I can't tell just yet what they are but...  Oh my God! They're immigrants! Oh no! Johnny can you get this? Oh, they're crashing to the earth right in front of our eyes! One just went through the windshield of a parked car! This is terrible! Everyone's running around pushing each other. Oh my goodness! Oh, the humanity! People are running about. The deportees are hitting the ground like sacks of wet cement!



As God is my witness, I thought immigrants could fly.
 
2013-06-26 07:19:44 PM  

fusillade762: When sub-Saharan Africans or mestizos start pumping out scientific and technological marvels at the rate that Europeans have been doing for centuries

Someone really needs to read this:


Yeah, this should be required reading for anyone who wants to have ANY opinion on racial 'accomplishment'. I got my copy through one of those penny for your first half dozen style book clubs 15 or so years ago and it still deeply influences my thinking as though I read it yesterday.

For instance, I can totally tolerate 0bummer the Kenyan muslim because his people lacked proper ungulates and all the parasites and stuff.
 
2013-06-26 08:12:24 PM  
Isolated incident.  Overzealous racist.
 
2013-06-26 08:14:56 PM  
I'm angry about the huge increase in H1-b visas attached to the bill.
 
2013-06-26 10:09:57 PM  
TheShavingofOccam123:

It is, like everything else tied to illegal immigration, America is only about the money.

/fixed
 
2013-06-26 10:18:17 PM  
No way,  subby.
 
2013-06-27 12:31:55 AM  

fusillade762: Someone really needs to read this:

Fuggin Bizzy: I second that. Good book. Good author. "Collapse" is also worthwhile.


GG&S seems solid, and Collapse is in my backlog pile, but Diamond's scholarship seems peccable enough that I would now take both with a grain of salt, and slightly hesitate to recommend them. Contrariwise, I'd at least encourage reading them to see what logical and/or factual errors can be spotted -- somewhat like Das Kapital and Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, save those I have little trouble with such spotting.
 
2013-06-27 07:22:19 AM  

abb3w: fusillade762: Someone really needs to read this:
Fuggin Bizzy: I second that. Good book. Good author. "Collapse" is also worthwhile.

GG&S seems solid, and Collapse is in my backlog pile, but Diamond's scholarship seems peccable enough that I would now take both with a grain of salt, and slightly hesitate to recommend them. Contrariwise, I'd at least encourage reading them to see what logical and/or factual errors can be spotted -- somewhat like Das Kapital and Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal, save those I have little trouble with such spotting.


You get these kinds of criticism about virtually any controversial work of scholarship. He has his positions; others draw differing conclusions from the same data. The flat-out "errors" that people have pointed to in his books that I've seen are extremely minor and relatively inconsequential to his interpretations. You put three scientists in a room with the same data, and you'll get at least 4 stridently argued interpretations. That is a good thing.
 
2013-06-27 10:15:39 AM  
Comments section is hilarious. I am loving "Meteorlady", the "Sioux" who seems to only parrot Right-Wing talking points. *snerk*

America is all about absorbing the best of what the world has and making it better. Sorry, but New York Pizza is BETTER than Sicily. Our Taco truck technology is far superior to anything the Chilangos have. American videogames are the best, and we still have the best from Europe and Japan to play. And I will sing with the Timbers Army any day of the week over those quiet, plastic losers wasting space in Old Trafford who can barely afford their tickets.

Joking aside, America is an IDEA. It's not a racial amalgamation. E plurubus unum. Our country has gone through many cultural and demographic changes over the centuries, but our ideas have never changed. And sadly, we will always deal with Racist derp, from the Know-Nothings to the Birchers to the Tea Party. That's nothing new either.
 
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