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(CNN)   The good news for Dems: Ed Markey wins the special election to replace John Kerry as Senator from Massachusetts. The Bad news: he only won by 10 points in a state Obama carried by 23, despite outspending his rival 4-1 and he has to run again in 2014   (cnn.com) divider line 92
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2013-06-26 05:28:15 PM
Yup. I voted for him. He's not an Elizabeth Warren, Barack Obama or Wendy Davis though. He's kinda a milquetoast candidate.
 
2013-06-26 05:32:49 PM
keep clinging to that hope, republicans.
 
2013-06-26 05:36:19 PM
This is a stupid headline and a stupid premise. This was a special election between two boring people on a 95 degree day, and the turnout was abysmal.

When he runs again, it will be a regularly scheduled November election, and we'll be voting for Governor so the turnout will be much higher. Also, Gomez isn't going to run again. If he couldn't beat him now, he'll never beat him.

I'm not saying that Ed Markey is untouchable, I'm saying that there was no bad news yesterday. None at all.
 
2013-06-26 05:39:42 PM
clearly gomez wasn't conservative enough. they should run a true conservative in the michelle bachmann mold.
 
2013-06-26 05:44:27 PM

FlashHarry: clearly gomez wasn't conservative enough. they should run a true conservative in the michelle bachmann mold.


No, they need to run somebody even more conservative than Michele Bachmann.
 
2013-06-26 05:45:38 PM
and he has to run again in 2014

What a bunch of bullshiat.

Also, WTF is wrong with Massachussetts? Why does such a liberal state have problems with Republicans winning elections Democrats should be winning every time?
 
2013-06-26 05:47:00 PM
So in actuality the Republicans won.

Oh, no, wait. They did not.
 
2013-06-26 05:47:26 PM

whidbey: and he has to run again in 2014

What a bunch of bullshiat.

Also, WTF is wrong with Massachussetts? Why does such a liberal state have problems with Republicans winning elections Democrats should be winning every time?


You mean that one time a Democrat ran the worst campaign ever seen? And the guy was voted out of office as soon as possible?
 
2013-06-26 05:48:51 PM

what_now: You mean that one time a Democrat ran the worst campaign ever seen?


There's Romney you still have to explain.
 
2013-06-26 05:50:14 PM
I get the media making it look like a close race before the election, but why bother making it look like a close race afterward?
 
2013-06-26 05:50:52 PM
Does Massachusetts really want to turn into a right wing craphole full of fascist derpmeisters like Texass and Kansass have become?
 
2013-06-26 05:51:23 PM
So a 60/40 victory is "barely" these days, huh?
 
2013-06-26 05:51:41 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: I get the media making it look like a close race before the election, but why bother making it look like a close race afterward?


It's an easy 3-day story to talk imply Democratic weakness to fill space in the comment section.

/CNN is the farking worst.
 
2013-06-26 05:52:06 PM

Empty Matchbook: So a 60/40 victory is "barely" these days, huh?


Probably 55-45. Still a solid victory, to be sure.
 
2013-06-26 05:52:12 PM

TV's Vinnie: Does Massachusetts really want to turn into a right wing craphole full of fascist derpmeisters like Texass and Kansass have become?


Seriously. Mass is one of the most progressive and liberal states in the Union.

Who keeps electing this Republican bulllshiat over and over?
 
2013-06-26 05:53:20 PM
So winning by double digits is the worst-case scenario?

Massachusetts is not going red. Deal with it.
 
2013-06-26 05:53:35 PM
This isn't Iran or North Korea. They have to make it look plausible.
 
2013-06-26 05:54:01 PM
WHAT was the bad news? That a (D) won in MA, but he didn't win by enough votes? How is that bad news, subby?

STFU.
 
2013-06-26 05:54:59 PM
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2013-06-26 05:55:08 PM

Soup4Bonnie: what_now: You mean that one time a Democrat ran the worst campaign ever seen?

There's Romney you still have to explain.


what_now: This is a stupid headline and a stupid premise. This was a special election between two boring people on a 95 degree day, and the turnout was abysmal.

When he runs again, it will be a regularly scheduled November election, and we'll be voting for Governor so the turnout will be much higher. Also, Gomez isn't going to run again. If he couldn't beat him now, he'll never beat him.

I'm not saying that Ed Markey is untouchable, I'm saying that there was no bad news yesterday. None at all.


This times about a trillion. My polling place didn't have a single person in line on Tuesday, but had a 45 minute wait last election day (and a very nice Canadian lady handing out coffee, since it was cold as hell that day too).
 
2013-06-26 05:55:28 PM
Pretty tepid concern troll.
 
2013-06-26 05:56:45 PM
Polls showed Markey up 9.6 points.  Markey won by 10 points.  This is bad for Obama somehow?
 
2013-06-26 05:57:46 PM

Craptastic: How is that bad news, subby?


Maybe subby is still butthurt that Mitt Romney Style™ didn't win the Big Election.
 
2013-06-26 05:58:20 PM
Why did Gomez do so well?

It was a special election (only choice on the ballot) in June on a Tuesday where neither candidate was all that inspiring.

Also, it was hotter than a snakes ass and most polling places don't have A/C.
 
2013-06-26 05:59:07 PM

Soup4Bonnie: what_now: You mean that one time a Democrat ran the worst campaign ever seen?

There's Romney you still have to explain.


You mean the Romney that ran as a moderate, pro-choice kinda-not-really Republican? That Romney? The Romney that invented Romneycare?

Is there really all that much to explain?
 
2013-06-26 05:59:43 PM

whidbey: TV's Vinnie: Does Massachusetts really want to turn into a right wing craphole full of fascist derpmeisters like Texass and Kansass have become?

Seriously. Mass is one of the most progressive and liberal states in the Union.

Who keeps electing this Republican bulllshiat over and over?


From a quick glance at historical Massachusetts Congressional delegations, I'd have to say that Brown was an aberration.

The Representatives have all been Democrats since 1996; since 1982 there have been only 3 Republicans elected to the House from Massachusetts.

On the Senate side, Scott Brown was the first Republican Senator since 1978.

On the flip side, residents of Massachusetts seem to really like Republican governors.
 
2013-06-26 06:01:02 PM

Soup4Bonnie: what_now: You mean that one time a Democrat ran the worst campaign ever seen?

There's Romney you still have to explain.


He's ran as a centrist technocrat who actually passed a better version of Obamacare in 2006, but ultimately reneged on the pro-same-sex-rights and pro-choice positions he staked out during his campaign and thus didn't get re-elected, so I'm not sure what needs explaining.
 
2013-06-26 06:01:21 PM

YoungLochinvar: Soup4Bonnie: what_now: You mean that one time a Democrat ran the worst campaign ever seen?

There's Romney you still have to explain.

You mean the Romney that ran as a moderate, pro-choice kinda-not-really Republican? That Romney? The Romney that invented Romneycare?

Is there really all that much to explain?


Yeah. Why were the people of MA that stupid to elect a Republican to office in such a liberal state? What were the long-term benefits?
 
2013-06-26 06:02:19 PM

qorkfiend: whidbey: TV's Vinnie: Does Massachusetts really want to turn into a right wing craphole full of fascist derpmeisters like Texass and Kansass have become?

Seriously. Mass is one of the most progressive and liberal states in the Union.

Who keeps electing this Republican bulllshiat over and over?

From a quick glance at historical Massachusetts Congressional delegations, I'd have to say that Brown was an aberration.

The Representatives have all been Democrats since 1996; since 1982 there have been only 3 Republicans elected to the House from Massachusetts.

On the Senate side, Scott Brown was the first Republican Senator since 1978.

On the flip side, residents of Massachusetts seem to really like Republican governors.


We really, really liked William Weld.
 
2013-06-26 06:04:13 PM

what_now: I'm not saying that Ed Markey is untouchable, I'm saying that there was no bad news yesterday. None at all.


Actually, there was some good news too. Towns that carried Warren by 1-2 points ended up carrying Markey by 5-6

ex. Milford
 
2013-06-26 06:05:26 PM

Soup4Bonnie: There's Romney you still have to explain.


He wasn't horrible as governor. It was when he started to run for President that he became horrible
 
2013-06-26 06:06:22 PM

Cubicle Jockey: We really, really liked William Weld.


During his governorship, Weld ended the state's borrowing, controlled Medicaid spending, reduced property taxes and balanced seven budgets in a row (in a state where a balanced budget is constitutionally mandated but haphazardly enforced) while passing 19 tax cuts and never raising taxes

I'm sure he was great for business. For overall quality of life, I would have to disagree given his strictly fiscal mode of operation.
 
2013-06-26 06:07:30 PM

whidbey: YoungLochinvar: Soup4Bonnie: what_now: You mean that one time a Democrat ran the worst campaign ever seen?

There's Romney you still have to explain.

You mean the Romney that ran as a moderate, pro-choice kinda-not-really Republican? That Romney? The Romney that invented Romneycare?

Is there really all that much to explain?

Yeah. Why were the people of MA that stupid to elect a Republican to office in such a liberal state? What were the long-term benefits?


Keeping the party honest. If you let your team field bad candidates because they can take your vote for granted, you'll never get good candidates.

Next election we got Warren. I think we did well for ourselves.
 
2013-06-26 06:08:17 PM
There's 60K people in my town near Boston, so let's say 20K registered voters maybe? I voted about an hour before the polls closed and the counter on the machine you put the ballot in was reading 246 votes. As Jon Stewart put it, Democracy Inaction.
 
2013-06-26 06:17:22 PM

whidbey: YoungLochinvar: Soup4Bonnie: what_now: You mean that one time a Democrat ran the worst campaign ever seen?

There's Romney you still have to explain.

You mean the Romney that ran as a moderate, pro-choice kinda-not-really Republican? That Romney? The Romney that invented Romneycare?

Is there really all that much to explain?

Yeah. Why were the people of MA that stupid to elect a Republican to office in such a liberal state? What were the long-term benefits?


Who was Romney running against?  Maybe the other guy was a POS.
 
2013-06-26 06:19:31 PM

Cubicle Jockey: We really, really liked William Weld.


He should've run for Senate. That would've been a great match up
 
2013-06-26 06:20:51 PM

TV's Vinnie: Does Massachusetts really want to turn into a right wing craphole full of fascist derpmeisters like Texass and Kansass have become?


Because the land of liberal nepotism, union thuggery, illegal alien largess and EBT fraud is such a better model of Government.
 
2013-06-26 06:22:26 PM

Soup4Bonnie: what_now: You mean that one time a Democrat ran the worst campaign ever seen?

There's Romney you still have to explain.


Again, we apologize for shacking up with Mitt. Pretty sure we were drunk. FWIW, he knew better than to try for a second run.
 
2013-06-26 06:22:42 PM

kyrg: Because the land of liberal nepotism, union thuggery, illegal alien largess and EBT fraud is such a better model of Government.


Do what now?

You got an agenda or what?
 
2013-06-26 06:24:37 PM

kyrg: TV's Vinnie: Does Massachusetts really want to turn into a right wing craphole full of fascist derpmeisters like Texass and Kansass have become?

Because the land of liberal nepotism, union thuggery, illegal alien largess and EBT fraud is such a better model of Government.


Wow, it's like your keyboard threw up. Well done.
 
2013-06-26 06:25:18 PM

kyrg: TV's Vinnie: Does Massachusetts really want to turn into a right wing craphole full of fascist derpmeisters like Texass and Kansass have become?

Because the land of liberal nepotism, union thuggery, illegal alien largess and EBT fraud is such a better model of Government.


10/10, now this is trolling.
 
2013-06-26 06:26:46 PM
Incumbency is difficult to overcome.  I doubt Massachusetts has a Republican capable of pulling what we now call "A Warren".
 
2013-06-26 06:29:34 PM

sinanju: Incumbency is difficult to overcome.  I doubt Massachusetts has a Republican capable of pulling what we now call "A Warren".


As long as we have shiatheads with deep pockets like the Koch Brothers, don't even bet on it.
 
2013-06-26 06:31:00 PM

kyrg: TV's Vinnie: Does Massachusetts really want to turn into a right wing craphole full of fascist derpmeisters like Texass and Kansass have become?

Because the land of liberal nepotism, union thuggery, illegal alien largess and EBT fraud is such a better model of Government.


<<Looks around his state>>

Wellll, we DO have shiatty roads. . . .?  I mean, what brought that on?

Also people, don't forget that a Massachusetts Republican would be a far-left Democrat in most of the flyover states.
 
2013-06-26 06:31:17 PM

Cubicle Jockey: qorkfiend: whidbey: TV's Vinnie: Does Massachusetts really want to turn into a right wing craphole full of fascist derpmeisters like Texass and Kansass have become?

Seriously. Mass is one of the most progressive and liberal states in the Union.

Who keeps electing this Republican bulllshiat over and over?

From a quick glance at historical Massachusetts Congressional delegations, I'd have to say that Brown was an aberration.

The Representatives have all been Democrats since 1996; since 1982 there have been only 3 Republicans elected to the House from Massachusetts.

On the Senate side, Scott Brown was the first Republican Senator since 1978.

On the flip side, residents of Massachusetts seem to really like Republican governors.

We really, really liked William Weld.


QFT
 
2013-06-26 06:32:31 PM
The Bad news: he only won by 10 points in a state Obama carried by 23

Meh, the last true mid-term senatorial election in Mass was in 2006 (Brown and Markey were both special elections and Kerry, 2008, and Warren, 2012, were both presidential election years). Granted, it was Ted Kennedy running then, but the turnout in 2006 was well lover 2 million voters. About 1/2 that showed up yesterday.

Yea, Markey might not be a particularly strong candidate, but in a regular election year, even mid-terms, things would have to get real bad economically over the next 15 months or so for him to have a problem winning re-election.

/my $0.02
 
2013-06-26 06:43:05 PM
The good news is that the Hispanic Allen West didn't get elected even though the good ol' boy's party thought people would be dumb enough to fall for the con.  On top of that?  If Latino Alan West here follows pattern, he'll be on FOX blasting immigration reform, Dreamer path to citizenship, and everything else the GOP pays him to try to convince the Hispanic community they hate as much as the old white people who pay him.

The better news?  Markey has the proven ability to out-spend the bigoted KOCH party's bankroll and will be able to do it again in 2014.

The best news?  Senate incumbents win almost all the time.  Subby has a fake sad.  All signs point to three terms.

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2013-06-26 06:57:59 PM
The only bad news here is CNN
 
2013-06-26 07:04:44 PM

badhatharry: This isn't Iran or North Korea. They have to make it look plausible.


Yes, a Democrat won in Massachusetts. Clearly, this requires a conspiracy of some sort.
 
2013-06-26 07:08:31 PM
Is subby stupid?  Winning 6-4 is a farking LANDSLIDE!

Obama only won by 23% because Mass. voters already had some RMoney experience.
 
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