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2013-06-26 05:28:02 PM
Partially True, according to snopes -
 
2013-06-26 05:56:46 PM
tl;dr
 
2013-06-26 06:02:05 PM

Triumph: tl;dr


Dammit.
 
2013-06-26 06:02:30 PM
you know what, 3 years ago I would have said that ADHD was just bad parenting. Then I met Ethan. That boy needs to be medicated.
 
2013-06-26 06:03:03 PM

Crolack: Partially True, according to snopes -


SEriously? Wow. I'm mildly surprised.
 
2013-06-26 06:03:33 PM
So....can we beat bad kids now?

No?

Oh...okay :(
 
2013-06-26 06:04:19 PM

Take it with a grain of salt.  The site also features headlines like this:

<a data-cke-saved-href="<a href=" href="<a href=" http:="" www.whydontyoutrythis.com="" 2013="" 06="" weather-weapons-have-existed-for-over-15-years-testified-us-secretary- of-defense.html"="" target="_blank" style="line-height: 1.3em;">Weather Weapons have existed for over 15 Years, testified U.S. Secretary of Defense
 
2013-06-26 06:04:43 PM
I have always wondered if the psychiatric community was in bed with the.... LOOK A SQUIRREL!
 
2013-06-26 06:04:57 PM
One of my co-workers is living proof that ADHD is very real.
 
2013-06-26 06:04:58 PM
People get bored. Life isn't always exciting. This doesn't need to be a medical diagnosis, it can sometimes just be life.

What's the updated % of population with some mental disorder, up to 15% yet?
 
2013-06-26 06:05:35 PM
I'm not sure I agree because I'm pretty sure I might have had ADHD since I was six when
 
2013-06-26 06:06:01 PM
 
2013-06-26 06:06:49 PM
No kidding?
 
2013-06-26 06:07:01 PM
Yes, but the adderoll is real!
 
2013-06-26 06:07:08 PM
He listed WND as a source.
 
2013-06-26 06:08:04 PM
Yet i was disqualified from the military because of it.
 
2013-06-26 06:08:13 PM
That's bullshiat some right there.
 
2013-06-26 06:09:42 PM
Ask anyone who knows me and they'll say differently.

/adderall = diet coke
//now on Strattera, which works pretty well for me
 
2013-06-26 06:11:05 PM
tl;
 
2013-06-26 06:11:28 PM
I'm open to this possibility, but I'm also hesitant to take the word of a website that has situated between the article's title and its body an ad for a homeopathic remedy for ADHD.  Or an ad for a homeopathic anything, for that matter.
 
2013-06-26 06:12:19 PM
ADHD/ADD is a real thing. It's also majorly overdiagnosed and overmedicated. A large part of the problem is that we're expecting little kids to just sit still all day and pay attention. Human childhood throughout history has been filled with physical activity... we need it to develop and to grow, mentally and physically. Some more than others, but all of us do. Stripping recess time and PE and such out of schools is probably one of the biggest contributors to the ADHD "epidemic".
 
2013-06-26 06:14:43 PM

simrobert2001: Crolack: Partially True, according to snopes -

SEriously? Wow. I'm mildly surprised.


Me too, so I actually read it :)
It's only partially true if you use a computer generated translation of a article in German.
If you have a human translate it, they'll tell you he only said it is over diagnosed.
 
2013-06-26 06:14:58 PM
I've read the original article. It's been a bit but this isn't entirely true. He was talking about it being over-diagnosed and how we need different ways of treating kids. But he seems to indicate that some kids definitely have issues and medications are needed.
 
2013-06-26 06:15:33 PM
Hrm, uses CCHR as a source?  Yay Scientology!
 
2013-06-26 06:15:56 PM
t
 
2013-06-26 06:16:02 PM
You could tell people that getting eight hours sleep a night is a treatable disorder and people will swear by it.  It's true. I sleep that much. It must be real. Give me drugs.
 
2013-06-26 06:16:06 PM
Useless teachers are a huge part of the problem, too.  As each year goes by they expect comatose drones sitting still in class, rather than do something themselves to make the subject matter interesting to young boys.

The school my kids went to had such a cult of drugging boys 85% of the second grade, right ahead of my son's first grade class at the time, was medicated.

We got them out of there as soon as they suggested meds for my son.  He's never been on anything and is doing just fine--accelerated classes, good grades, baseball teams up to this year (just finished 10th grade) Eagle Scout, etc.
 
2013-06-26 06:16:16 PM
This isn't really true. It's a mischaracterization of a mistranslation.

Spreading this is about as helpful as spreading the idea that vaccines cause autism.
 
2013-06-26 06:16:29 PM

Pitabred: ADHD/ADD is a real thing. It's also majorly overdiagnosed and overmedicated. A large part of the problem is that we're expecting little kids to just sit still all day and pay attention. Human childhood throughout history has been filled with physical activity... we need it to develop and to grow, mentally and physically. Some more than others, but all of us do. Stripping recess time and PE and such out of schools is probably one of the biggest contributors to the ADHD "epidemic".


This. I was a skeptic until I met my girlfriends kid. Now I am sold. She refuses to put him on meds (a decision I support). It takes a lot of work but in his case it can be managed/worked around without it. He is also a very bright and creative. He is frustrating at times but I would hate to see him on meds if it would change him.
 
2013-06-26 06:17:30 PM
Oh I completely trust a source that is telling me how I can cure cancer with nutrition.
 
2013-06-26 06:18:32 PM
Well, duh.
 
2013-06-26 06:19:34 PM
Not surprised.

For every parent that thinks their little snowflake is inflicted by a terrible disorder, let me say this.  Does your teenager have difficulty concentrating?  Does he have the attention span of a squirrel?  Does he misbehave and rebel against authority?  Does he no longer consider you to be top of the food chain in the family?  Does he do poorly in school and get into trouble with alcohol, cigarettes, pot, and girls?  Do you know what that's called?

Adolescence.

Either that or your kid's an asshole.
 
2013-06-26 06:19:35 PM

Son of Thunder: Oh I completely trust a source that is telling me how I can cure cancer with nutrition.


Dying is a kind of cure.
 
2013-06-26 06:19:53 PM
The reason there is such a desire to scream "FAKE" for ADD/ADHD is because that will also allow the same people to scream "FAKE" when (not if) mental health professionals start using words like "Paranoid Personality Disorder" in reference to truthers, birthers, anti-flouridators, anti-vacciners, and the whole rest of them. ADHD is over-diagnosed, particularly since it is often diagnosed under duress. Parents get told that their boys, merely acting like boys, will not be permitted into school unless they are drugged into submission. This gives an open door for the truthers, birthers, anti-vacciners, etc., to start their spiels.

PS: $cientology also hates on the ADHD diagnosis...
 
2013-06-26 06:21:15 PM
ADHD? Oh yeah, my parents called it "ants in the pants".
 
2013-06-26 06:21:24 PM

CruJones: Ask anyone who knows me and they'll say differently.

/adderall = diet coke
//now on Strattera, which works pretty well for me


Strattera worked for me but I couldn't handle the side effects.  Delayed or disconnected orgasms are just weird.  I could deal with that, but as soon as I had my first painful orgasm?  that was it, no more thank you.
 
2013-06-26 06:22:02 PM

jst3p: Pitabred: ADHD/ADD is a real thing. It's also majorly overdiagnosed and overmedicated. A large part of the problem is that we're expecting little kids to just sit still all day and pay attention. Human childhood throughout history has been filled with physical activity... we need it to develop and to grow, mentally and physically. Some more than others, but all of us do. Stripping recess time and PE and such out of schools is probably one of the biggest contributors to the ADHD "epidemic".

This. I was a skeptic until I met my girlfriends kid. Now I am sold. She refuses to put him on meds (a decision I support). It takes a lot of work but in his case it can be managed/worked around without it. He is also a very bright and creative. He is frustrating at times but I would hate to see him on meds if it would change him.


THIS--to both of you.  Certain kids, in low numbers, may need meds, but Jeremy Farking Christmas is the education and medical industry overdoing it.  I would bet 95% of those medicated are just hyper and imaginative little boys who had potential ideas medicated right out of them.
 
2013-06-26 06:22:35 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: you know what, 3 years ago I would have said that ADHD was just bad parenting. Then I met Ethan. That boy needs to be medicated.


What does that mean?

//He's a nut... He's crazy in the cocount
//Not obscure.
 
2013-06-26 06:22:48 PM

Fissile: ADHD? Oh yeah, my parents called it "ants in the pants".


I had aunts in the pants as a kid. She isn't allowed within 500 feet of me or my brothers anymore.
 
2013-06-26 06:23:45 PM
I would suggest meditation or yoga for high strung kids but I've heard that invites demonic possession.
 
2013-06-26 06:25:06 PM
Psychiatry is a pseudoscience. You dont know it like I do.
 
2013-06-26 06:26:12 PM

fickenchucker: Useless teachers are a huge part of the problem, too.  As each year goes by they expect comatose drones sitting still in class, rather than do something themselves to make the subject matter interesting to young boys.

The school my kids went to had such a cult of drugging boys 85% of the second grade, right ahead of my son's first grade class at the time, was medicated.

We got them out of there as soon as they suggested meds for my son.  He's never been on anything and is doing just fine--accelerated classes, good grades, baseball teams up to this year (just finished 10th grade) Eagle Scout, etc.




I had the same experience with my son's Grade 6 class (teacher diagnosed). We took him to a psychologist. Kid is just fine, grade 10 getting A's in accelerated Tech classes. To his grade 7 teacher, he had all the kids lap the school every morning before instruction and introduced him to Parkour.
 
2013-06-26 06:26:17 PM

CruJones: Ask anyone who knows me and they'll say differently.

/adderall = diet coke
//now on Strattera, which works pretty well for me


LOVE strattera! Anyone who cites WND and Natural News in their "article", probably doesn't know what they're talking about.
 
2013-06-26 06:26:58 PM
Your blog sucks, subby.
 
2013-06-26 06:27:42 PM

SteakMan: CruJones: Ask anyone who knows me and they'll say differently.

/adderall = diet coke
//now on Strattera, which works pretty well for me

Strattera worked for me but I couldn't handle the side effects.  Delayed or disconnected orgasms are just weird.  I could deal with that, but as soon as I had my first painful orgasm?  that was it, no more thank you.


Have you tried Concerta? Strattera's improved sexual stamina is nice, but the exhaustion and abdominal pain is what makes me unable to
take it. Also had a dumbass yesterday snort at least 6 adderall.

 

dwade: Yet i was disqualified from the military because of it.


Really.Most recruiters look at that and think Special Operations. It seems that people who have ADD are hard wired for oh shiat situations.

/Paramedic.
 
2013-06-26 06:30:05 PM

fickenchucker: jst3p: Pitabred: ADHD/ADD is a real thing. It's also majorly overdiagnosed and overmedicated. A large part of the problem is that we're expecting little kids to just sit still all day and pay attention. Human childhood throughout history has been filled with physical activity... we need it to develop and to grow, mentally and physically. Some more than others, but all of us do. Stripping recess time and PE and such out of schools is probably one of the biggest contributors to the ADHD "epidemic".

This. I was a skeptic until I met my girlfriends kid. Now I am sold. She refuses to put him on meds (a decision I support). It takes a lot of work but in his case it can be managed/worked around without it. He is also a very bright and creative. He is frustrating at times but I would hate to see him on meds if it would change him.

THIS--to both of you.  Certain kids, in low numbers, may need meds, but Jeremy Farking Christmas is the education and medical industry overdoing it.  I would bet 95% of those medicated are just hyper and imaginative little boys who had potential ideas medicated right out of them.


My Ex-wife was a self diagnosed (well Mom diagnosed) sufferer too. She is what made me a skeptic. She may have had a learning disability but nothing I now know about the affliction applies to her, except the "symptoms" everyone has (do you sometimes find it hard to concentrate on school work?). I think her mom found the book "You mean I am not stupid, lazy or crazy?" or whatever it was called and latched on to it for the reason she got mediocre grades in school.
 
2013-06-26 06:30:11 PM

Fissile: ADHD? Oh yeah, my parents called it "ants in the pants".


Which the medical community used to call, "congratulations, it's a boy!"

/a lifelong disorder, diagnosed at birth. Quite tragic, really...
 
2013-06-26 06:30:13 PM
Try growing up with my sister and you'd change your mind in a heartbeat - she was diagnosed at age 3 and it was quite apparent she met criteria throughout her childhood and adolescence. My parents were great (well educated and authoritative) so I seriously doubt it was due to bad parenting - plus I was symptom free!

Having spent my entire childhood living with my sister and observing the difficulties she had in spite of seeing specialists and being prescribed medication, I find it hard to believe it doesn't exist. I agree it's overdosenosed and frequently misdiagnosed, but that doesn't negate it's existence.
 
2013-06-26 06:31:11 PM

jst3p: Pitabred: ADHD/ADD is a real thing. It's also majorly overdiagnosed and overmedicated. A large part of the problem is that we're expecting little kids to just sit still all day and pay attention. Human childhood throughout history has been filled with physical activity... we need it to develop and to grow, mentally and physically. Some more than others, but all of us do. Stripping recess time and PE and such out of schools is probably one of the biggest contributors to the ADHD "epidemic".

This. I was a skeptic until I met my girlfriends kid. Now I am sold. She refuses to put him on meds (a decision I support). It takes a lot of work but in his case it can be managed/worked around without it. He is also a very bright and creative. He is frustrating at times but I would hate to see him on meds if it would change him.


This, times eleventy!

I wasn't diagnosed until my late 30's...and I thank GOD for that!  I only take meds now when certain work activities require it...but, I loathe how easily dr's want to jump on the med train.  There are tons of ways to 'work with it', and learning coping tools that are free of meds go a long way.
 
2013-06-26 06:31:20 PM
The thing is, of course ADHD is real. A deficit of attention can be cause by countless things though (sleep disorder, reaction to certain foods/substances, psychiatric conditions, neurological disorders etc..). Whats wrong is treating it as some sort of homogenous condition.
 
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