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(TaxProf)   Budget buster: National Taxpayer Advocate calls for $1,000 'apology payments' to taxpayers abused by the IRS   (taxprof.typepad.com) divider line 19
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2013-06-26 02:58:57 PM
3 votes:
Pay your farking taxes and you won't be abused by the IRS. Don't pay your taxes, and you can die of cholera, tainted beef, or viking attack. Your choice.
2013-06-26 04:14:29 PM
2 votes:
We used to get guys like this all the time when I worked in Customer Service.  He comes in, always with a bunch of friends and/or family and rages loud and long about how he was treated badly/got a crappy product and as a result, demands not just a refund of his money, but to either keep the 'crappy product' or get heavily reimbursed.

It's always a scam and usually by people who see scamming businesses as a means of getting something for free.
2013-06-26 05:35:07 PM
1 votes:

Jument: gochuck: garion: I'm getting abused by the IRS. I had a company falsely report nearly $100k of income on me in 2010. But the IRS believes the company and not me. So I need to pay nearly $50k between the taxes on that 'income' and fees and penalties (because I refused to pay it when I filed).

Yes, I have an attorney. I've *finally*, within the past week got the company to reissue the 1099's, but only with threats of lawsuits. I *might* be able to convince the IRS that i really don't owe that money.. As it is, I've spent thousands on the attorney. If that doesn't work, I'll have to either cash out 401k's or declare bankruptcy (which has its own problems.).

That's not the IRS's fault, this is the fault of the company that falsely reported. Take your gripe up with them.

This. You should sue the everloving shiat out of them. Ask for every penny you're out and then some. Please note: IANAL.


On paper that's a great idea.  However, I got hosed by a former employer.  We were all hired on at once, worked for three weeks.  The day before we were to get paid we were all laid off.  I have texted and called both my former manager and  owner of the company.  The former manager has said that he hasn't gotten paid and the former owner sold all the assets the company had to clear debts, there is zero money for payroll.  I can report him to the state, but I won't get paid, and a lawsuit won't do any good (in Texas, if sued you can't lose your home, tools of your trade, car, and up to $30K of personal property at a depreciated value at you get to choose).  If this former employer did the same, what is there to sue for.  The employer made the mistake/falsified the 1099, it's between the IRS and the employer...or that's how it should be.
2013-06-26 05:23:21 PM
1 votes:

onyxruby: Liberal, Conservative, whatever you are, if a Federal agency targets you for special treatment you should be owed money.

Lots of liberals saying no big deal, yet they would raise hell if they were targeted. Government's worldwide have a long history of abusing power for political purposes.

The perpetrators should be put in prison and the victims compensated. I would say the same thing if roles were reversed.


THIS
2013-06-26 05:22:22 PM
1 votes:

gochuck: garion: I'm getting abused by the IRS. I had a company falsely report nearly $100k of income on me in 2010. But the IRS believes the company and not me. So I need to pay nearly $50k between the taxes on that 'income' and fees and penalties (because I refused to pay it when I filed).

Yes, I have an attorney. I've *finally*, within the past week got the company to reissue the 1099's, but only with threats of lawsuits. I *might* be able to convince the IRS that i really don't owe that money.. As it is, I've spent thousands on the attorney. If that doesn't work, I'll have to either cash out 401k's or declare bankruptcy (which has its own problems.).

That's not the IRS's fault, this is the fault of the company that falsely reported. Take your gripe up with them.


This. You should sue the everloving shiat out of them. Ask for every penny you're out and then some. Please note: IANAL.
2013-06-26 05:16:59 PM
1 votes:
Liberal, Conservative, whatever you are, if a Federal agency targets you for special treatment you should be owed money.

Lots of liberals saying no big deal, yet they would raise hell if they were targeted. Government's worldwide have a long history of abusing power for political purposes.

The perpetrators should be put in prison and the victims compensated. I would say the same thing if roles were reversed.
2013-06-26 04:57:30 PM
1 votes:

garion: I'm getting abused by the IRS. I had a company falsely report nearly $100k of income on me in 2010. But the IRS believes the company and not me. So I need to pay nearly $50k between the taxes on that 'income' and fees and penalties (because I refused to pay it when I filed).
Yes, I have an attorney. I've *finally*, within the past week got the company to reissue the 1099's, but only with threats of lawsuits. I *might* be able to convince the IRS that i really don't owe that money.. As it is, I've spent thousands on the attorney. If that doesn't work, I'll have to either cash out 401k's or declare bankruptcy (which has its own problems.).


Cool story, bro.
2013-06-26 04:53:37 PM
1 votes:

Marine1: Kirzania: Slaves2Darkness: How does Mitt Romney get a 14% income tax rate? You don't call that abuse?

THIS.

It's very possible that Mitt gives more in taxes (14% in his bracket is quite a bit) than he takes. Ultimately, if you want to balance out budgets, you give every American a balance sheet. It'd be a fun experiment, if only for a year.


Problem is; most people don't accept that they get what they get.  For a simple example; my boss benefits from the fact that there are a lot of high-school educated applicants allowing him to pay less for high-school educated jobbers.  Yet he'll loudly scream about how his private education means he gets nothing out of public schools.
2013-06-26 04:44:42 PM
1 votes:

dwrash: As the IRS takes his assets which prevents him from hiring an attorney to fight the company that farked him...


Look, if someone successfully frames you for murder, you run from the police instead of getting arrested, and now they're chasing you while you try to find the real killer; are the cops evil?  Or the guy who framed you?
2013-06-26 04:17:00 PM
1 votes:
gochuck:

That's not the IRS's fault, this is the fault of the company that falsely reported. Take your gripe up with them.

Threats of garnishments, jail, being told I'm a flat out liar.

I certainly blame the other company. But various phone calls, letters, etc by IRS agents basically saying if I don't pay the full amount I'm basically screwed for life, for something I did not do. The situation is that I can not prove that they did not pay me. One agent even said they probably paid me in cash, and I have it hidden in a mattress, and I'm trying to get out of paying them. The IRS is believing a single piece of paper from the company, over all of my bank account records that don't show a single deposit from that company.

Someone asks how this happens? By a company trying get more tax deductions than its allowed to. It tried to use the 100k as an expense. (I never received any monies for that 100k)  But thats another story, that I do not want to post about for a variety of reasons.
2013-06-26 04:13:02 PM
1 votes:

gochuck: garion: I'm getting abused by the IRS. I had a company falsely report nearly $100k of income on me in 2010. But the IRS believes the company and not me. So I need to pay nearly $50k between the taxes on that 'income' and fees and penalties (because I refused to pay it when I filed).

Yes, I have an attorney. I've *finally*, within the past week got the company to reissue the 1099's, but only with threats of lawsuits. I *might* be able to convince the IRS that i really don't owe that money.. As it is, I've spent thousands on the attorney. If that doesn't work, I'll have to either cash out 401k's or declare bankruptcy (which has its own problems.).

That's not the IRS's fault, this is the fault of the company that falsely reported. Take your gripe up with them.


As the IRS takes his assets which prevents him from hiring an attorney to fight the company that farked him...   right...
2013-06-26 04:06:15 PM
1 votes:

garion: I'm getting abused by the IRS. I had a company falsely report nearly $100k of income on me in 2010. But the IRS believes the company and not me. So I need to pay nearly $50k between the taxes on that 'income' and fees and penalties (because I refused to pay it when I filed).
Yes, I have an attorney. I've *finally*, within the past week got the company to reissue the 1099's, but only with threats of lawsuits. I *might* be able to convince the IRS that i really don't owe that money.. As it is, I've spent thousands on the attorney. If that doesn't work, I'll have to either cash out 401k's or declare bankruptcy (which has its own problems.).


Sue the company for your attorney's fees, etc. They are the one making the false claims.
2013-06-26 04:01:48 PM
1 votes:

garion: I'm getting abused by the IRS. I had a company falsely report nearly $100k of income on me in 2010. But the IRS believes the company and not me. So I need to pay nearly $50k between the taxes on that 'income' and fees and penalties (because I refused to pay it when I filed).

Yes, I have an attorney. I've *finally*, within the past week got the company to reissue the 1099's, but only with threats of lawsuits. I *might* be able to convince the IRS that i really don't owe that money.. As it is, I've spent thousands on the attorney. If that doesn't work, I'll have to either cash out 401k's or declare bankruptcy (which has its own problems.).


That's not the IRS's fault, this is the fault of the company that falsely reported. Take your gripe up with them.
2013-06-26 03:58:55 PM
1 votes:

garion: I'm getting abused by the IRS. I had a company falsely report nearly $100k of income on me in 2010. But the IRS believes the company and not me. So I need to pay nearly $50k between the taxes on that 'income' and fees and penalties (because I refused to pay it when I filed). 

Yes, I have an attorney. I've *finally*, within the past week got the company to reissue the 1099's, but only with threats of lawsuits. I *might* be able to convince the IRS that i really don't owe that money.. As it is, I've spent thousands on the attorney. If that doesn't work, I'll have to either cash out 401k's or declare bankruptcy (which has its own problems.).


Chapter 7 will not clear IRS debt.  It only stops the interest from accumulating.
2013-06-26 03:56:20 PM
1 votes:
I'm getting abused by the IRS. I had a company falsely report nearly $100k of income on me in 2010. But the IRS believes the company and not me. So I need to pay nearly $50k between the taxes on that 'income' and fees and penalties (because I refused to pay it when I filed). 

Yes, I have an attorney. I've *finally*, within the past week got the company to reissue the 1099's, but only with threats of lawsuits. I *might* be able to convince the IRS that i really don't owe that money.. As it is, I've spent thousands on the attorney. If that doesn't work, I'll have to either cash out 401k's or declare bankruptcy (which has its own problems.).
2013-06-26 03:50:03 PM
1 votes:
Who was "abused" by the IRS?
2013-06-26 03:26:30 PM
1 votes:
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2013-06-26 03:16:44 PM
1 votes:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: what_now: Don't pay your taxes, and you can die of cholera, tainted beef, or viking attack. Your choice.

The Scandinavians are pretty laid back now. I don't think they're much of a threat.

Unless you're talking about those chunderf*cks from Minnesota.


They're biding their time until a group of sovereign citizens decides they don't want to be protected by the US Army. Then the long boats will sail and heads will roll.
2013-06-26 01:59:58 PM
1 votes:
They should call the payments reparations.
 
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