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(Yahoo)   Lebron calls his shot with 27.9 seconds left in game 7 against the Spurs an "MJ moment." Too bad it's not really an MJ moment because Lebron didn't need to push off   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line 133
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2013-06-26 02:32:39 PM  
Oh no you didn't go there, subby!
 
2013-06-26 02:36:13 PM  
looks like he might be done wearing the triple-wide head band to hide his hairline.

good.

that shiat was embarrassing
 
2013-06-26 02:36:29 PM  
This conversation makes me want to

upload.wikimedia.org

everyone in the world.
 
2013-06-26 02:36:41 PM  
The problem is also that MJ had so many "MJ moments" that a jumper to push a 2-point lead to 4 points wouldn't rank in the top-50.
 
2013-06-26 02:37:20 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-06-26 02:39:58 PM  
When MJ played with the flu, that was the most incredible achievement in sports history ever.

XOXO,
Skinny Mike from Mike and Mike
 
2013-06-26 02:47:47 PM  
It was a great shot, a big game moment and he was amazing all game.

/but it wasn't superstretching your arm to defeat space monsters with Bill Murray as your wingman
 
2013-06-26 02:48:13 PM  
MJ was a better player than you'll ever be, James. Get over it.
 
2013-06-26 02:48:35 PM  

Gunny Highway: This conversation makes me want to

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everyone in the world.


I wish I could find the video of Sedale Threatt knocking Danny Ainge TFO.
 
2013-06-26 02:51:19 PM  
Ya know what made MJ more awesome than Kobe and LBJ (more than being a better player) ?

He wasn't trying to make 'Magic Moments' or "Dr J Moments" or trying to convince people he was just as good as Wilt.

He was too busy making MJ moments
 
2013-06-26 02:51:57 PM  

abhorrent1: MJ was a better player than you'll ever be, James. Get over it.


MJ was a better player than James would ever imagine being.
 
2013-06-26 02:53:56 PM  

ManateeGag: abhorrent1: MJ was a better player than you'll ever be, James. Get over it.

MJ was a better player than James would ever imagine being.


You are both very wrong. But seriously, it was a bad move on LBJs part to make the comparison.
 
2013-06-26 02:55:27 PM  

MugzyBrown: Ya know what made MJ more awesome than Kobe and LBJ (more than being a better player) ?


His pathological hate for a coach that cut him.
 
2013-06-26 02:56:10 PM  
i.qkme.me
 
2013-06-26 02:56:52 PM  
He'll never compare to MJ as a petty asshole and will never get his dad killed over gambling debts either.  Hell LeBro doesn't even know who his real dad is.
 
2013-06-26 02:59:40 PM  

abhorrent1: MJ was a better player than you'll ever be, James. Get over it.


THIS

/LBJ, flavor of the week.
 
2013-06-26 03:01:28 PM  
LeBron, this is exactly why people hate you.
You let other people call that your "MJ moment".

/as retarded as Costanza giving himself a nickname
 
2013-06-26 03:04:15 PM  

deanis: ManateeGag: abhorrent1: MJ was a better player than you'll ever be, James. Get over it.

MJ was a better player than James would ever imagine being.

You are both very wrong. But seriously, it was a bad move on LBJs part to make the comparison.


I'm sadly old enough to remember when MJ was playing he was constantly compared to Dr. J, Magic, Wilt and Larry Bird.   Seriously 27 years ago these rose tinted douches were saying Jordan is no Larry Bird.  Even after Jordan dropped 63 on Bird's Celtics.  No current player will ever be as good as the one that played right before him.
 
2013-06-26 03:05:45 PM  
"I know it wasn't the magnitude of MJ hitting that shot in '98, but I definitely thought about him,'' James said. ''It was an MJ moment.''

I've got no problem with this.
 
2013-06-26 03:09:25 PM  

ManateeGag: MJ was a better player than James would ever imagine being.


bill simmons (who?) said on Dan patrick the day after the championship (independently of the "is LBJ better than 23?" discussion, which i don't know was even discussed) that LBJ has not just the mix of Magic and MJ, but Pip.  I'd never heard that before, and that seems to be true.  Yeah LBJ may not always be the one to take the final shot, when 23 always (well, ok, John Paxson '93 and Steve Kerr, ehhhh, 1997, 1998?) had the ball at the last second, but he does have that Pippenesque ability to dominate someone defensively.
 
2013-06-26 03:14:40 PM  
I haven't really watched pro basketball since after MJ retired from the Bulls and I haven't seen anything that really will entice me to watch it now.
 
2013-06-26 03:15:10 PM  
MJ - 6 NBA Finals trips, 6 Wins, 6 Finals MVPs

LJ - 4 NBA Finals trips, 2 Wins, 2 Finals MVPs
 
2013-06-26 03:15:24 PM  
 
2013-06-26 03:18:53 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: MJ - 6 NBA Finals trips, 6 Wins, 6 Finals MVPs

LJ - 4 NBA Finals trips, 2 Wins, 2 Finals MVPs


''I know it wasn't the magnitude of MJ hitting that shot in '98, but I definitely thought about him,'' James said. ''It was an MJ moment.'

Everyone take a moment to read that before we start this sports talk conversation....AGAIN!
 
2013-06-26 03:22:56 PM  

elguerodiablo: He'll never get his dad killed over gambling debts either.


Ouch. Sad but true.
 
2013-06-26 03:23:38 PM  

elguerodiablo: deanis: ManateeGag: abhorrent1: MJ was a better player than you'll ever be, James. Get over it.

MJ was a better player than James would ever imagine being.

You are both very wrong. But seriously, it was a bad move on LBJs part to make the comparison.

I'm sadly old enough to remember when MJ was playing he was constantly compared to Dr. J, Magic, Wilt and Larry Bird.   Seriously 27 years ago these rose tinted douches were saying Jordan is no Larry Bird.  Even after Jordan dropped 63 on Bird's Celtics.  No current player will ever be as good as the one that played right before him.


I'm old enough to remember the "MJ can't win the big one" criticism.  Sounds familiar.

AdolfOliverPanties: MJ - 6 NBA Finals trips, 6 Wins, 6 Finals MVPs

LJ - 4 NBA Finals trips, 2 Wins, 2 Finals MVPs


LJ - 10 solid years left.
 
2013-06-26 03:25:56 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: MJ - 6 NBA Finals trips, 6 Wins, 6 Finals MVPs

LJ - 4 NBA Finals trips, 2 Wins, 2 Finals MVPs


Oh wow LeBron retired? Where's the news flash?

Anyway, this argument is old and busted. Regardless of what LeBron does people like you and are going to say it doesn't count or it isn't as good as Jordan because reasons. So it's pointless to argue about it. LeBron is not Jordan, we know, the argument is over.

We already have someone like Jordan. His name is Kobe he plays in LA. I guess if he wins one more he'll be the best. We have another Jordan. There has never been anyone like LeBron.

/LeBron will not win 6 so I guess Jordan will be the best forever because he won the most...oh wait I guess Robert Horry is the best...well no maybe Russell is the best...but I think Wilt has the most so he's the best even though he couldn't shoot from outside of 5 feet...or maybe number of Championships is a stupid way to declare someone the best?
//this is quality headline trolling BTW
 
2013-06-26 03:30:35 PM  

js34603: We already have someone like Jordan. His name is Kobe he plays in LA. I guess if he wins one more he'll be the best. We have another Jordan. There has never been anyone like LeBron.


Kobe isn't close to MJ in any category other than 'total rings'.

LeBron is already much better than Kobe.

LeBron is as talented as MJ, if not more, but he should dominate games more often than he does.  MJ never had that problem.

Until game 7, if you watched the finals without prior knowledge, you wouldn't get the impression that Lebron was the by-far best player in the sport.  You pretty much never were left with that same doubt after watching MJ.
 
2013-06-26 03:34:56 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: MJ - 6 NBA Finals trips, 6 Wins, 6 Finals MVPs



yeah but Jordan had talent.  Pip, Rodman (say what you want about his off-the-court antics, rebounding is kinda a big deal), Ho Grant at his best in 1993, Kerr, Paxson, arguably Kukoc at the end).  Meanwhile, that Cavs team was LeBron and a bunch of JAGs.
 
2013-06-26 03:35:31 PM  
Thanks a lot, Spurs.  One farking rebound and we wouldn't have to listen to all this shiat.
 
2013-06-26 03:38:25 PM  
Lebron calls his shot with 27.9 seconds left in game 7 against the Spurs an "MJ moment." Too bad it's not really an MJ moment because Lebron didn't need to push off Jordan never needed a Game 7 to win a title.


Fixed that for ya, Subs


/lots things Jordan didn't have to do
// like convene with free agent all-stars
///or flop
////or recover from losing the Finals
////etc
 
2013-06-26 03:39:18 PM  

MugzyBrown: Until game 7, if you watched the finals without prior knowledge, you wouldn't get the impression that Lebron was the by-far best player in the sport.  You pretty much never were left with that same doubt after watching MJ.


Wow, ain't nostalgia great?  It can make you forget that Jordan had arguably the greatest coach in basketball history, and a fellow hall-of-famer next to him, and, for a while, one of the greatest rebounders of all time beside him, etc. etc.

Want to talk nostalgia?  Prime Magic Johnson > Prime Michael Jordan.
 
2013-06-26 03:39:36 PM  

hammettman: Thanks a lot, Spurs.  One farking rebound and we wouldn't have to listen to all this shiat.


This.
 
2013-06-26 03:39:38 PM  
Unlike LeBron, Jordan didn't feel the need to ditch Chicago to win a championship elsewhere. They built around him. And MJ had no problem being The Man on his team. LeBron had to run off and join the superfriends to get his trophies. Couldn't take the spotlight so much.
 
2013-06-26 03:40:38 PM  

abhorrent1: MJ was a better player than you'll ever be, James. Get over it.


I don't know about that.  LBJ is posting better all-around numbers than MJ did at the same point in their careers.  Jordan was a scorer, LBJ has a more well-rounded game that's better suited for today's NBA, and is generally a better team player.

I'm not an LBJ fan, but the numbers don't lie.  He will never have has big an impact on the NBA as Jordan did, but the LBJ-or-MJ debate as the better player will only grow from here on out.
 
2013-06-26 03:41:29 PM  

hammettman: Thanks a lot, Spurs. One farking rebound and we wouldn't have to listen to all this shiat.



that is one of the more heartbreakign losses.....you can count the Bruins a few days ago, just a precious 77 seconds away from the Cup and then BAM.  I gues arguably you could count the Cubs being what, six outs away from the World Series in game six then that Aaron Rodriquez dude boots what should have been a double play (but you still don't know if the Marlins or whomever score and win the game)....
 
2013-06-26 03:41:31 PM  

CastorTroy: Prime Magic Johnson > Prime Michael Jordan


Not even close.  And I grew up during both of their eras.

Magic was a great player, but not near MJs
 
2013-06-26 03:44:11 PM  

MugzyBrown: Until game 7, if you watched the finals without prior knowledge, you wouldn't get the impression that Lebron was the by-far best player in the sport. You pretty much never were left with that same doubt after watching MJ.


Really?  Did you watch any NBA this season?

MugzyBrown: LeBron is as talented as MJ, if not more, but he should dominate games more often than he does. MJ never had that problem.


Does this have anything to do with the addition of zone defense? (I still struggle with NBA defense and evaluation players as defenders)
 
2013-06-26 03:45:53 PM  

rickythepenguin: hammettman: Thanks a lot, Spurs. One farking rebound and we wouldn't have to listen to all this shiat.


that is one of the more heartbreakign losses.....you can count the Bruins a few days ago, just a precious 77 seconds away from the Cup and then BAM.  I gues arguably you could count the Cubs being what, six outs away from the World Series in game six then that Aaron Rodriquez dude boots what should have been a double play (but you still don't know if the Marlins or whomever score and win the game)....


Actually, they were 77 seconds away from forcing a game 7.  But yeah, heartbreaking still.
 
2013-06-26 03:46:35 PM  

skinink: Unlike LeBron, Jordan didn't feel the need to ditch Chicago to win a championship elsewhere. They built around him. And MJ had no problem being The Man on his team. LeBron had to run off and join the superfriends to get his trophies. Couldn't take the spotlight so much.


Having Pippin helped.

Too bad Jordan ran off to play baseball and we never got a chance to see the Bulls go up against the Rockets.
 
2013-06-26 03:47:08 PM  

Kid the Universe: looks like he might be done wearing the triple-wide head band to hide his hairline.

good.

that shiat was embarrassing


p.twimg.com
 
2013-06-26 03:48:06 PM  
"Let's compare the two players at the age of 28, which is how old LeBron is now. LeBron has scored more than 2,400 more points (19,045 to Jordan's 16,596), has more than 1,700 more rebounds (4,943 to 3,180) and assists (4,751 to 3,081), almost 150 more double-doubles (268-121) and two times as many triple-triples (41-19). He also has more MVP awards, all-star appearances and all-star MVPs."

Link

This idea of whoever's the better player based on championships, which is more of a team accomplishment than an individual one, is dumb.  No way that Flacco's a better QB than Marino.
 
2013-06-26 03:48:30 PM  

MugzyBrown: CastorTroy: Prime Magic Johnson > Prime Michael Jordan

Not even close.  And I grew up during both of their eras.

Magic was a great player, but not near MJs


So did I.  I never saw MJ play all 5 spots at an NBA level.
 
2013-06-26 03:50:57 PM  

MugzyBrown: CastorTroy: Prime Magic Johnson > Prime Michael Jordan

Not even close.  And I grew up during both of their eras.

Magic was a great player, but not near MJs


I grew up in LA in the 80's... and even I agree that MJ > Magic... in fact, Bird > Magic.

/ Lakers fan
 
2013-06-26 03:55:54 PM  

PsyLord: I haven't really watched pro basketball since after MJ retired from the Bulls and I haven't seen anything that really will entice me to watch it now.


Exactly !
 
2013-06-26 03:56:38 PM  

hugram: MugzyBrown: CastorTroy: Prime Magic Johnson > Prime Michael Jordan

Not even close.  And I grew up during both of their eras.

Magic was a great player, but not near MJs

I grew up in LA in the 80's... and even I agree that MJ > Magic... in fact, Bird > Magic.

/ Lakers fan


My dad grew up in the 60's and says that Magic > MJ.
His brother grew up in the 70's and he says MJ > Magic
A third brother grew up in the 70's and he says Magic > MJ

This game is fun.
 
2013-06-26 03:56:41 PM  

hugram: I grew up in LA in the 80's... and even I agree that MJ > Magic... in fact, Bird > Magic.


However, I saw a documentary which proved that Dr. J. regularly beat Larry Bird one on one.

cdn2-b.examiner.com
 
2013-06-26 03:57:53 PM  
Is this the thread where I come in and pretend that Michael Jordan is the greatest ever and in no way, shape, or form have we had 2 players since he retired who have been just as good if not better?
 
2013-06-26 03:58:21 PM  

CastorTroy: So did I. I never saw MJ play all 5 spots at an NBA level.

 

Um, ok.  Jordan played Olajuwon bucket for bucket at the center position when the Bulls beat the Rockets in the '94 and '95 Finals.  Even Hakeem was forced to admit that "Jordan's heart is just so big and he simply out-willed me."  But have fun with your revisionist history.  Dude wins twelve championships in ten years and people still doubt the dude.
 
2013-06-26 04:00:18 PM  

skinink: Unlike LeBron, Jordan didn't feel the need to ditch Chicago to win a championship elsewhere. They built around him. And MJ had no problem being The Man on his team. LeBron had to run off and join the superfriends to get his trophies. Couldn't take the spotlight so much.


Exactly. Cleveland did not, so they lost LeBron. Minnesota did not, so they lost KG. Orlando did not so they lost Shaq. Shaq wasn't good because he went to a team that wanted to win? KG had no talent because he wasn't the only guy on the team with talent? Some play for money, other play for legacy. Ask Barkley and Marino how good it feels to have been loyal... This is a silly argument.
 
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