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2013-06-26 01:05:27 PM
It's Schroedinger's Bill right now.
 
2013-06-26 01:41:02 PM
It is dead as far as this special session goes, but the Governor can call another special session at which time the bill would be re-introduced.
 
2013-06-26 01:43:47 PM
The battle to punish women for having sex will never be over.
 
2013-06-26 01:59:41 PM

Marcus Aurelius: The battle to punish women for having sex will never be over.


Done
 
2013-06-26 02:00:54 PM
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat
It is dead as far as this special session goes, but the Governor can call another special session at which time the bill would be re-introduced.

This. Depending on how it works in Texas they could pass it tomorrow. SB5 opponents have no long-term strategy.
 
2013-06-26 02:03:16 PM
I am more curious about the breakdowns of the rule violations last night.
 
2013-06-26 02:04:07 PM
What happened (based on reading many news stories) was the Republicans said Wendy Davis was out of order about 15 mins till midnight.

People in the gallery then started screaming let her talk, really loud that delayed the vote.

The vote was taken but it said 12:03 (or something but after midnight)

REPUBLICANS FORGED THE TIME STAMP TO SAY IT WAS BEFORE MIDNIGHT AND POSTED ON THE SITE IT PASSED BEFORE MIDNIGHT.

The Lt. governor said "Hey um no we aren't going to like forge time stamps to get this passed. I declare it didn't pass in time".

And there you go.

I think the Republicans who forged the time stamp should be investigated and thrown out.
 
2013-06-26 02:04:09 PM
Oh, it'll pass eventually.  What else are they going to do, govern effectively on issues that matter?  Please.
 
2013-06-26 02:06:14 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It is dead as far as this special session goes, but the Governor can will call another special session at which time the bill would be re-introduced.


FTFY. We all know what that semi-retarded asshole governor is going to do.
 
2013-06-26 02:07:27 PM
www.webinapage.com

But they'll throw some DNA in the transporter, reverse some polarity, bypass a few relay circuits and we'll be back to Screwedbase Alpha in no time.
 
2013-06-26 02:08:01 PM

Corvus: What happened (based on reading many news stories) was the Republicans said Wendy Davis was out of order about 15 mins till midnight.

People in the gallery then started screaming let her talk, really loud that delayed the vote.

The vote was taken but it said 12:03 (or something but after midnight)

REPUBLICANS FORGED THE TIME STAMP TO SAY IT WAS BEFORE MIDNIGHT AND POSTED ON THE SITE IT PASSED BEFORE MIDNIGHT.

The Lt. governor said "Hey um no we aren't going to like forge time stamps to get this passed. I declare it didn't pass in time".

And there you go.

I think the Republicans who forged the time stamp should be investigated and thrown out.


Sorry for the caps guys but that's such amazing bullshiat I thought it had to be highlighted.
 
2013-06-26 02:08:04 PM

tnpir: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It is dead as far as this special session goes, but the Governor can will call another special session at which time the bill would be re-introduced.

FTFY. We all know what that semi-retarded asshole governor is going to do.


He's going to do three things: call a special session, make them consider this bill, and... um... uh... one other thing... I forgot... Oops.
 
2013-06-26 02:11:13 PM

RanDomino: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat
It is dead as far as this special session goes, but the Governor can call another special session at which time the bill would be re-introduced.

This. Depending on how it works in Texas they could pass it tomorrow. SB5 opponents have no long-term strategy.


Or they'll just do it anyhow.  fark the law!
 
2013-06-26 02:12:17 PM

mjones71822: I am more curious about the breakdowns of the rule violations last night.


I posted this on the other two big threads:

So, for those of you keeping score at home, I watched the stream last night myself, and here's what I'm remembering:

The Texas Senate's president made at least one awful ruling on germane-ness (talking about sonograms is not germane to the discussion about abortion? Really?); ended the filibuster without a promised vote to the body; improperly ended the filibuster on only two warnings for germane-ness in contravention to Senate rules requiring three; improperly gave the floor to someone else (who made the motion to table) after the ruling was appealed by Watson, and Watson had not yielded, in contravention of Senate rules; improperly gave the floor to someone else in the middle of Watson's 'closing' remarks on his appeal in contravention of Senate rules; improperly entertained motions beyond the appeal in contravention of Senate rules; refused to recognize Democrat senators at critical points in the debate; held at least one and possibly more votes without order on the floor; declared the vote for the bill valid despite occurring after midnight, which, by law, was the end of the session; and finally, in one last 'fark you' to the people of Texas, fraudulently had the Congressional record changed so said vote was recorded before midnight.

Did I miss any?



I didn't get any replies telling me I'd missed any or that any of these were inaccurate.
 
2013-06-26 02:12:36 PM

Corvus: I think the Republicans who forged the time stamp should be investigated and thrown out.


I'd go with "arrested and thrown in jail".
 
2013-06-26 02:12:48 PM

Corvus: What happened (based on reading many news stories) was the Republicans said Wendy Davis was out of order about 15 mins till midnight.

People in the gallery then started screaming let her talk, really loud that delayed the vote.

The vote was taken but it said 12:03 (or something but after midnight)

REPUBLICANS FORGED THE TIME STAMP TO SAY IT WAS BEFORE MIDNIGHT AND POSTED ON THE SITE IT PASSED BEFORE MIDNIGHT.

The Lt. governor said "Hey um no we aren't going to like forge time stamps to get this passed. I declare it didn't pass in time".

And there you go.

I think the Republicans who forged the time stamp should be investigated and thrown out.


That's close, but they ruled her out of order with about an hour and a half to go. After that, Senator Watson, West, and Van De Platte(sic) drew out the rest of the time with parliamentary procedure questions until about fifteen minutes to go. That's when they started the roll call for the vote to table the motion to debate the out of order call (I think I got that part right). Before the roll call started at 11:50, Van De Platte(sic) asked for another parlimentary procedure question, but the chair ignored her so she interrupted the roll call with "At what point must a female senator raise her hand to be recognized over her male colleagues?" The crowd went nuts and cheer for ten minutes straight so they couldn't finish the roll call.
 
2013-06-26 02:12:48 PM

Corvus: What happened (based on reading many news stories) was the Republicans said Wendy Davis was out of order about 15 mins till midnight.

People in the gallery then started screaming let her talk, really loud that delayed the vote.

The vote was taken but it said 12:03 (or something but after midnight)

REPUBLICANS FORGED THE TIME STAMP TO SAY IT WAS BEFORE MIDNIGHT AND POSTED ON THE SITE IT PASSED BEFORE MIDNIGHT.

The Lt. governor said "Hey um no we aren't going to like forge time stamps to get this passed. I declare it didn't pass in time".

And there you go.

I think the Republicans who forged the time stamp should be investigated and thrown out

. in prison.

FTFY
 
2013-06-26 02:13:00 PM
pbs.twimg.com

Yep...they changed the time stamps.  It blows my mind that they thought they could get away with that considering how many people were paying attention.  Makes me wonder what they get up to when people *aren't* paying attention.
 
2013-06-26 02:13:51 PM

tnpir: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It is dead as far as this special session goes, but the Governor can will call another special session at which time the bill would be re-introduced.

FTFY. We all know what that semi-retarded asshole governor is going to do.


FTFY Living in Texas and boy do I miss Governor Ann
 
2013-06-26 02:16:22 PM
CNN Says yes. St. Pete Times Looking for chads -OR- "hello, I am write single to salute and wait for answer again"
 
2013-06-26 02:18:36 PM

whynotisright: Yep...they changed the time stamps.  It blows my mind that they thought they could get away with that considering how many people were paying attention.  Makes me wonder what they get up to when people *aren't* paying attention.


Welcome to Fark newbie
 
2013-06-26 02:19:17 PM

RanDomino: SB5 opponents have no long-term strategy.


There's only so much long term strategy you can have when the side pushing the vote can push the filibuster requirement beyond human limits.  She had an 11 hour filibuster because the senate refused to waive the 24 hour posting delay due to another senator's father's death.  That ain't happening again, and I really don't think you're going to see a 30+ hour filibuster succeed.
Or they can put in Relief Senate President from the start and have him simply refuse to acknowledge the Democrats who want to speak.  Almost worked last night.
 
2013-06-26 02:19:21 PM

Corvus: Corvus: What happened (based on reading many news stories) was the Republicans said Wendy Davis was out of order about 15 mins till midnight.

People in the gallery then started screaming let her talk, really loud that delayed the vote.

The vote was taken but it said 12:03 (or something but after midnight)

REPUBLICANS FORGED THE TIME STAMP TO SAY IT WAS BEFORE MIDNIGHT AND POSTED ON THE SITE IT PASSED BEFORE MIDNIGHT.

The Lt. governor said "Hey um no we aren't going to like forge time stamps to get this passed. I declare it didn't pass in time".

And there you go.

I think the Republicans who forged the time stamp should be investigated and thrown out.

Sorry for the caps guys but that's such amazing bullshiat I thought it had to be highlighted.


No worries.  If Pelosi had done that, the tea-bagger screeching would be audible in Outer Mongolia.

Ether way, Governor Goodhair (tm Charles Pierce)  will just call another "emergency session" and it'll pass.  One of the cruel ironies is that the filibustering Senator will be redistricted out of an office shortly thanks to Texas's totally non-partisan and totally non-racist district maps.  In the South, the bad guys always win.
 
2013-06-26 02:19:44 PM

StubhyGraham: Corvus: What happened (based on reading many news stories) was the Republicans said Wendy Davis was out of order about 15 mins till midnight.

People in the gallery then started screaming let her talk, really loud that delayed the vote.

The vote was taken but it said 12:03 (or something but after midnight)

REPUBLICANS FORGED THE TIME STAMP TO SAY IT WAS BEFORE MIDNIGHT AND POSTED ON THE SITE IT PASSED BEFORE MIDNIGHT.

The Lt. governor said "Hey um no we aren't going to like forge time stamps to get this passed. I declare it didn't pass in time".

And there you go.

I think the Republicans who forged the time stamp should be investigated and thrown out.

That's close, but they ruled her out of order with about an hour and a half to go. After that, Senator Watson, West, and Van De Platte(sic) drew out the rest of the time with parliamentary procedure questions until about fifteen minutes to go. That's when they started the roll call for the vote to table the motion to debate the out of order call (I think I got that part right). Before the roll call started at 11:50, Van De Platte(sic) asked for another parlimentary procedure question, but the chair ignored her so she interrupted the roll call with "At what point must a female senator raise her hand to be recognized over her male colleagues?" The crowd went nuts and cheer for ten minutes straight so they couldn't finish the roll call.


Please tell me there is a video of this!
 
2013-06-26 02:20:34 PM

RanDomino: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat
It is dead as far as this special session goes, but the Governor can call another special session at which time the bill would be re-introduced.

This. Depending on how it works in Texas they could pass it tomorrow. SB5 opponents have no long-term strategy.


No they can't. Bills can only be passed when the Legislature is in session. The Texas Legislature is a part time and only meets in odd numbered years. The regular session ended quite some time ago and the special session called by the Governor ended last night at midnight. The Governor would have to call another special session, quorum would need to be determined and the bill would need to be reintroduced following all the procedures starting from scratch.

The Governor could call another special session but would expend a lot of political capital to do so. If he does, Democratic Senators could go on vacation out of state preventing a quorum.
 
2013-06-26 02:20:53 PM

Mike Chewbacca: I think the Republicans who forged the time stamp should be investigated and thrown out. in prison.

FTFY


Yeah probably. Just trying to look more even handed about the matter. There is one thing about pushing rules for your side, then there is out and out unethically breaking the rules. Definitely forging timestamps on votes if breaking the rules.
 
2013-06-26 02:21:26 PM

Corvus: What happened (based on reading many news stories) was the Republicans said Wendy Davis was out of order about 15 mins till midnight.


That's more or less the condensed version.  I liked this one from the other thread:

Nightsteel 09:43:48 AM
  So, for those of you keeping score at home, I watched the stream last night myself, and here's what I'm remembering:

The Texas Senate's president made at least one awful ruling on germane-ness (talking about sonograms is not germane to the discussion about abortion? Really?); ended the filibuster without a promised vote to the body; improperly ended the filibuster on only two warnings for germane-ness in contravention to Senate rules requiring three, improperly gave the floor to someone else (who made the motion to table) after the ruling was appealed by Watson, and Watson had not yielded, in contravention of Senate rules; improperly gave the floor to someone else in the middle of Watson's 'closing' remarks on his appeal in contravention of Senate rules; improperly entertained motions beyond the appeal in contravention of Senate rules; refused to recognize Democrat senators at critical points in the debate; held at least one and possibly more votes without order on the floor; declared the vote for the bill valid despite occurring after midnight, which, by law, was the end of the session; and finally, in one last 'fark you' to the people of Texas, fraudulently had the Congressional record changed so said vote was recorded before midnight.


Davis, probably rightly so, is getting the lion's share of the credit, but Watson's part was critical to the bill not passing, as well.
 
2013-06-26 02:22:34 PM

whynotisright: [pbs.twimg.com image 716x960]

Yep...they changed the time stamps.  It blows my mind that they thought they could get away with that considering how many people were paying attention.  Makes me wonder what they get up to when people *aren't* paying attention.


Don't be ridiculous. It would take days for news of a vote to reach the public by courier. Even then they wouldn't hear the news till morning from the crier in the town square.
 
2013-06-26 02:22:34 PM

NightSteel: I didn't get any replies telling me I'd missed any or that any of these were inaccurate.


Merde!  Why'd you have to go do that faster than I could?!!  :P
 
2013-06-26 02:23:13 PM

Mistymtnhop: StubhyGraham: Corvus: What happened (based on reading many news stories) was the Republicans said Wendy Davis was out of order about 15 mins till midnight.

People in the gallery then started screaming let her talk, really loud that delayed the vote.

The vote was taken but it said 12:03 (or something but after midnight)

REPUBLICANS FORGED THE TIME STAMP TO SAY IT WAS BEFORE MIDNIGHT AND POSTED ON THE SITE IT PASSED BEFORE MIDNIGHT.

The Lt. governor said "Hey um no we aren't going to like forge time stamps to get this passed. I declare it didn't pass in time".

And there you go.

I think the Republicans who forged the time stamp should be investigated and thrown out.

That's close, but they ruled her out of order with about an hour and a half to go. After that, Senator Watson, West, and Van De Platte(sic) drew out the rest of the time with parliamentary procedure questions until about fifteen minutes to go. That's when they started the roll call for the vote to table the motion to debate the out of order call (I think I got that part right). Before the roll call started at 11:50, Van De Platte(sic) asked for another parlimentary procedure question, but the chair ignored her so she interrupted the roll call with "At what point must a female senator raise her hand to be recognized over her male colleagues?" The crowd went nuts and cheer for ten minutes straight so they couldn't finish the roll call.

Please tell me there is a video of this!


http://youtu.be/yPntuZ7jmGY

That's where the cheering kicked off for 10m
 
2013-06-26 02:24:28 PM
The next time a Texas Senate Republican grumbles about the gallery and decorum, someone needs to inform them point blank: When you choose to ignore your own rules, other people aren't going to feel particularly bound to them either.
 
2013-06-26 02:24:39 PM

Corvus: Mike Chewbacca: I think the Republicans who forged the time stamp should be investigated and thrown out. in prison.

FTFY

Yeah probably. Just trying to look more even handed about the matter. There is one thing about pushing rules for your side, then there is out and out unethically breaking the rules. Definitely forging timestamps on votes if breaking the rules.


No, it's not breaking the rules. It's fraud. It's a  crime. Whoever is responsible for that should be arrested.
 
2013-06-26 02:26:09 PM

whynotisright: [pbs.twimg.com image 716x960]

Yep...they changed the time stamps.  It blows my mind that they thought they could get away with that considering how many people were paying attention.  Makes me wonder what they get up to when people *aren't* paying attention.


A senate finally gets a straight up/down vote and look at the whining and complaining about procedures.

/Next time polls close at 7 by law, let's see who tries to keep them open later.
 
2013-06-26 02:26:53 PM

max_pooper: If he does, Democratic Senators could go on vacation out of state preventing a quorum.


Depends on how many are needed for a quorum, I suppose.
 
2013-06-26 02:29:30 PM

Corvus: What happened (based on reading many news stories) was the Republicans said Wendy Davis was out of order about 15 mins till midnight.

People in the gallery then started screaming let her talk, really loud that delayed the vote.

The vote was taken but it said 12:03 (or something but after midnight)

REPUBLICANS FORGED THE TIME STAMP TO SAY IT WAS BEFORE MIDNIGHT AND POSTED ON THE SITE IT PASSED BEFORE MIDNIGHT.

The Lt. governor said "Hey um no we aren't going to like forge time stamps to get this passed. I declare it didn't pass in time".

And there you go.

I think the Republicans who forged the time stamp should be investigated and thrown out executed.


Since they execute for just about anything in Texas these days...
 
2013-06-26 02:31:27 PM

Soup4Bonnie: NightSteel: I didn't get any replies telling me I'd missed any or that any of these were inaccurate.

Merde!  Why'd you have to go do that faster than I could?!!  :P


Je suis désolé?

I loved watching the session last night. It was riveting, at least, as riveting as parliamentary procedure can be. I shook my head over and over at the temporary president's blatant ignoring of the rules, especially giving the floor to someone else out of order *twice in a row*, I paced around my office while the debate happened with the mic shut off, thinking the Dems wouldn't be able to run down the clock and the vote would pass, I grinned to beat all when the gallery started cheering, and I went to bed thinking the whole thing would have to be decided by the courts after the late vote and timestamp changes. I didn't see a summary of all the awful things the president (and temporary president) had done this morning, so I had to write one myself and see if anyone agreed/disagreed.
 
2013-06-26 02:32:08 PM

Cytokine Storm: Mistymtnhop: StubhyGraham: Corvus: What happened (based on reading many news stories) was the Republicans said Wendy Davis was out of order about 15 mins till midnight.

People in the gallery then started screaming let her talk, really loud that delayed the vote.

The vote was taken but it said 12:03 (or something but after midnight)

REPUBLICANS FORGED THE TIME STAMP TO SAY IT WAS BEFORE MIDNIGHT AND POSTED ON THE SITE IT PASSED BEFORE MIDNIGHT.

The Lt. governor said "Hey um no we aren't going to like forge time stamps to get this passed. I declare it didn't pass in time".

And there you go.

I think the Republicans who forged the time stamp should be investigated and thrown out.

That's close, but they ruled her out of order with about an hour and a half to go. After that, Senator Watson, West, and Van De Platte(sic) drew out the rest of the time with parliamentary procedure questions until about fifteen minutes to go. That's when they started the roll call for the vote to table the motion to debate the out of order call (I think I got that part right). Before the roll call started at 11:50, Van De Platte(sic) asked for another parlimentary procedure question, but the chair ignored her so she interrupted the roll call with "At what point must a female senator raise her hand to be recognized over her male colleagues?" The crowd went nuts and cheer for ten minutes straight so they couldn't finish the roll call.

Please tell me there is a video of this!

http://youtu.be/yPntuZ7jmGY

That's where the cheering kicked off for 10m


Have I told you lately that I love you?
 
2013-06-26 02:32:10 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Corvus: What happened (based on reading many news stories) was the Republicans said Wendy Davis was out of order about 15 mins till midnight.

That's more or less the condensed version.  I liked this one from the other thread:

Nightsteel 09:43:48 AM
  So, for those of you keeping score at home, I watched the stream last night myself, and here's what I'm remembering:

The Texas Senate's president made at least one awful ruling on germane-ness (talking about sonograms is not germane to the discussion about abortion? Really?); ended the filibuster without a promised vote to the body; improperly ended the filibuster on only two warnings for germane-ness in contravention to Senate rules requiring three, improperly gave the floor to someone else (who made the motion to table) after the ruling was appealed by Watson, and Watson had not yielded, in contravention of Senate rules; improperly gave the floor to someone else in the middle of Watson's 'closing' remarks on his appeal in contravention of Senate rules; improperly entertained motions beyond the appeal in contravention of Senate rules; refused to recognize Democrat senators at critical points in the debate; held at least one and possibly more votes without order on the floor; declared the vote for the bill valid despite occurring after midnight, which, by law, was the end of the session; and finally, in one last 'fark you' to the people of Texas, fraudulently had the Congressional record changed so said vote was recorded before midnight.


Davis, probably rightly so, is getting the lion's share of the credit, but Watson's part was critical to the bill not passing, as well.


Watson was a great followup to Davis (Watson is my State Senator, which is awesome). When Davis' filibuster was broken, I figured that it was all done but the voting. Then Watson spoke up and I realized that the filibuster was still going on. Pretty amazed that the crowd carried it through to the end after all the parliamentary wrangling wore out.
 
2013-06-26 02:33:42 PM

NightSteel: The next time a Texas Senate Republican grumbles about the gallery and decorum, someone needs to inform them point blank: When you choose to ignore your own rules, other people aren't going to feel particularly bound to them either.


Talk about truth being stranger than fiction:  A classic wrestling heel complaint ("It's ok when the heel does it!") brought to life.
 
2013-06-26 02:38:00 PM

Mistymtnhop: Cytokine Storm: Mistymtnhop: StubhyGraham: Corvus: What happened (based on reading many news stories) was the Republicans said Wendy Davis was out of order about 15 mins till midnight.

People in the gallery then started screaming let her talk, really loud that delayed the vote.

The vote was taken but it said 12:03 (or something but after midnight)

REPUBLICANS FORGED THE TIME STAMP TO SAY IT WAS BEFORE MIDNIGHT AND POSTED ON THE SITE IT PASSED BEFORE MIDNIGHT.

The Lt. governor said "Hey um no we aren't going to like forge time stamps to get this passed. I declare it didn't pass in time".

And there you go.

I think the Republicans who forged the time stamp should be investigated and thrown out.

That's close, but they ruled her out of order with about an hour and a half to go. After that, Senator Watson, West, and Van De Platte(sic) drew out the rest of the time with parliamentary procedure questions until about fifteen minutes to go. That's when they started the roll call for the vote to table the motion to debate the out of order call (I think I got that part right). Before the roll call started at 11:50, Van De Platte(sic) asked for another parlimentary procedure question, but the chair ignored her so she interrupted the roll call with "At what point must a female senator raise her hand to be recognized over her male colleagues?" The crowd went nuts and cheer for ten minutes straight so they couldn't finish the roll call.

Please tell me there is a video of this!

http://youtu.be/yPntuZ7jmGY

That's where the cheering kicked off for 10m

Have I told you lately that I love you?


Oh come on now!  Don't break into a Rod Stewart song!  You have a nice Led Zep inspired screen name too~!
 
2013-06-26 02:42:39 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: max_pooper: If he does, Democratic Senators could go on vacation out of state preventing a quorum.

Depends on how many are needed for a quorum, I suppose.


You suppose nothing. Like I stated before, if the Democratic Senators leave the state there would not be a quorum.
 
2013-06-26 02:45:26 PM

cendojr: RanDomino: SB5 opponents have no long-term strategy.

There's only so much long term strategy you can have when the side pushing the vote can push the filibuster requirement beyond human limits.  She had an 11 hour filibuster because the senate refused to waive the 24 hour posting delay due to another senator's father's death.  That ain't happening again, and I really don't think you're going to see a 30+ hour filibuster succeed.
Or they can put in Relief Senate President from the start and have him simply refuse to acknowledge the Democrats who want to speak.  Almost worked last night.


You forgot the part where when Perry called the first special session he changed the rules to simple majority (instead of the 2/3) necessary for debate so that he could push this bill, which got no traction during the regular session, through.

It's hard to have a long term strategy when the other side changes the rules and cheats.
 
2013-06-26 02:45:31 PM

NightSteel: all the stuff you said.


That was pretty much my exact experience.  Get out of my head.

schnee: Watson was a great followup to Davis (Watson is my State Senator, which is awesome). When Davis' filibuster was broken, I figured that it was all done but the voting. Then Watson spoke up and I realized that the filibuster was still going on. Pretty amazed that the crowd carried it through to the end after all the parliamentary wrangling wore out.


Yes.  The only sour note is that I could probably win some money betting that this will still get passed eventually.  They aren't done.  They have the votes.  It will pass in the next special session Perry calls unless they somehow manage a ridiculous 60 hour filibuster (trying to find where I read that).
 
2013-06-26 02:45:59 PM
OK, so one more question: How does Filibuster work in Texas? Everywhere else, as I understand it, they can talk about whatever they want and can't be told to "shut up" and that they are being shut down because they are "off topic". Do they get to do this in Texas?
 
2013-06-26 02:46:14 PM

Derp Du Jour: whynotisright: Yep...they changed the time stamps.  It blows my mind that they thought they could get away with that considering how many people were paying attention.  Makes me wonder what they get up to when people *aren't* paying attention.

Welcome to Fark newbie


I'm sure my optimism will be beaten out of me soon enough....let me enjoy it while I still can.
 
2013-06-26 02:48:18 PM
I sure hope SB5 is not dead...my daughter loves them!

4206e9.medialib.glogster.com
They do not 'bring the flavor' in the same manner as those adorable Backstreet Boys, however.
 
Bf+
2013-06-26 02:49:03 PM

Mikey1969: OK, so one more question: How does Filibuster work in Texas? Everywhere else, as I understand it, they can talk about whatever they want and can't be told to "shut up" and that they are being shut down because they are "off topic". Do they get to do this in Texas?


Nope.
Also, no tag teams, no bathroom breaks, oh, and you can't lean on the podium.
 
2013-06-26 02:51:00 PM

Mikey1969: OK, so one more question: How does Filibuster work in Texas? Everywhere else, as I understand it, they can talk about whatever they want and can't be told to "shut up" and that they are being shut down because they are "off topic". Do they get to do this in Texas?


No.  It was covered in detail in the big thread last night, but the filibuster in the Texas Senate is a lot stricter than even the Mr Smith Goes to Washington style filibuster.  There's no switching out with other senators, there's no bathroom breaks, and you must stay on-topic (germane) or your filibuster gets ended.  You can't even lean on the desk or sit down.
 
2013-06-26 02:51:58 PM

Bf+: Mikey1969: OK, so one more question: How does Filibuster work in Texas? Everywhere else, as I understand it, they can talk about whatever they want and can't be told to "shut up" and that they are being shut down because they are "off topic". Do they get to do this in Texas?

Nope.
Also, no tag teams, no bathroom breaks, oh, and you can't lean on the podium.


*shakes tiny fist*
 
2013-06-26 02:52:03 PM

cendojr: Or they can put in Relief Senate President from the start and have him simply refuse to acknowledge the Democrats who want to speak. Almost worked last night.


Worked in Wisconsin recently.
 
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