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(The Register)   Western companies don't know when their products are being made by slave labor, and they want to keep it that way   (theregister.co.uk) divider line 20
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2013-06-26 10:40:46 AM
Apple knows...they just don't want US to know
 
2013-06-26 11:00:46 AM
Western companies consumers don't know when their products are being made by slave labor, and they want to keep it that way
 
2013-06-26 11:16:22 AM

plcow: Western companies consumers don't know when their products are being made by slave labor, and they want to keep it that way


Exactly. If apple is indeed using slave labor, you apple fanboys are benefiting from slave labor everyday. It's not apples fault or Steve jobs fault. It's your fault, you plutocratic slave master.

Sent with my iPhone
 
2013-06-26 11:50:09 AM
Of course because if they knew and had records then they would lose their plausible deniability and they couldnt act shocked and suprised when it comes to light. Then htey issue a corporate statement saying they had no ide this was going on and they are launching and internal investigation of their vendors and changes will be made. Then maybe a change or two happens and in a few months back to business.
 
2013-06-26 11:56:23 AM
for true
 
2013-06-26 02:40:22 PM
Western consumers don't realize they're being herded down the same chute towards wage slavery.

/put it on my credit card?
 
2013-06-26 03:20:48 PM
So that's why in-flight headphones sound like crap.
 
2013-06-26 03:34:20 PM
People don't want to admit it - but 'slave' labor is the best thing to happen to many of these craphole countries.
 
2013-06-26 04:37:41 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: People don't want to admit it - but 'slave' labor is the best thing to happen to many of these craphole countries.


That true, too. People aren't flocking from the Chinese countryside to take these jobs for no reason. These jobs are an improvement over whatever shiatty thing they were doing in the fields in the countryside.
 
2013-06-26 06:28:39 PM
My wife is a Buyer for a large Silicon Valley network company (not Cisco).  The absolutely care that their components are not made by slave labor.  She is on an internal task force put together to help insure that it doesn't happen.  So while I can't speak for every company, some do the right thing.
 
2013-06-26 06:41:21 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: People don't want to admit it - but 'slave' labor is the best thing to happen to many of these craphole countries.


You're right insofar as these practices need to be considered in-context: paying someone $1/day might be really good money for the area, and might lead to legitimate increases in the wealth of the working class.

But certainly there are practices we should not tolerate regardless of the circumstances. For example, slavery -- as defined by the legal inability to leave one's job -- should never be accepted. Likewise with abusive (as opposed to merely exploitative) practices like physical harm for inferior job performance.
 
2013-06-26 06:50:40 PM
This is why wee have free trade agreements to begin with.  Who are we to judge whether tazering a prisoner over their productivity is right or wrong?  We just know it's more profitable that way.  And that's what America is all about.  Freedom.
 
2013-06-26 07:00:00 PM
Western companies don't want to know and western consumers don't want to know.  Everybody likes cheap crap.
 
2013-06-26 07:24:46 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: People don't want to admit it - but 'slave' labor is the best thing to happen to many of these craphole countries.


If you actually RTFA, it's talking about forced labor in prison and similar abuses. Debt slavery is perhaps the most common.

Few people claim that all factory work is "slavery", people are just expecting basic human decency to be involved and for workers to have basic safety and health protection, as well as fair wages. Working people until they kill themselves, as they did at Foxconn? Not cool. Hundreds burning to death and using buildings that collapse, as in Bangladesh? Not cool.

This isn't unreasonable, it's basic. human. decency.
 
2013-06-26 07:36:14 PM
Best way I ever heard it was this:

The system is the collective sum of everyone's desires.

Apple wants to have insane profit margins on iPads.
American consumers want cheap iPads.
Therefore, the system wants cheap Chinese labor.
 
2013-06-26 07:50:22 PM

meyerkev: Best way I ever heard it was this:

The system is the collective sum of everyone's desires.

Apple wants to have insane profit margins on iPads.
American consumers want cheap iPads.
Therefore, the system wants cheap Chinese labor.


And the Chinese laborers want the jobs. Kind of a key component of your system.
 
2013-06-26 10:33:52 PM
You never hear anybody say things about the Philippines.  Everyone I know that has a job works 10 to 12 hour days 7 days a week.  The ones that don't have a job want to work abroad because they can make more money and have time off.
 
2013-06-27 12:07:53 AM
Me, too.
 
2013-06-27 12:39:55 AM
If they could...

People will want everything for nothing, today.

Or even more, yesterday...and you pay them.
 
2013-06-27 08:45:05 AM

plcow: Western companies consumers don't know when their products are being made by slave labor, and they want to keep it that way


Is there a term for when someone intentionally wants to remain ignorant so when the truth is revealed, they can honestly say they didn't know?
 
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