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2013-06-26 10:50:46 AM  

vudukungfu: Let's all jerk off about football now.
Because this is obviously more important than the use of the constitution as toilet paper, women's rights, racist voting laws in the south, global climate change, droughts, fires, floods, and plagues of locusts (spring breakers) invading towns.


and a cheery good morning to you too!

You're right. Let's all jerk off about everything you think is wrong with society. That sounds like a hoot! lol

On the off chance that you didn't just emerge from under a bridge, you should try having sex. It might improve your whiny disposition.
 
2013-06-26 10:51:45 AM  
Pats still have Ballard, Fells, Hoomanawanoui, Amendola, Edelman, Donald Jones, Michael Jenkins, and possible TEs in Sudfeld and Brandon Ford.  Dobson, Boyce, Slate, Thompkins.
 
2013-06-26 10:52:05 AM  
So, what you're telling me is that the Ravens just won the Super Bowl and a Patriot is a suspect in a murder?

That's different
 
2013-06-26 10:59:06 AM  
I hate it when sports page stories end up on the main page. Now I have to share that I don't know who the player is but need to let everyone know that because these guys are rich and famous that is what is wrong with the country. Thanks Obama.
 
2013-06-26 10:59:37 AM  

CreampuffCasperMilktoast: News Flash!.... A person I don't know, who's famous for something I don't care about, is being charged in connection with murdering someone else I don't know, who isn't as famous as the other guy. All this takes place, in a State I don't care about.

/Probably the first of many news flashes today, isn't SCOTUS convening in like 10 minutes?


Don't listen to them.  I agree with you.

But when these worthless (to me and you) newsflashes happen and there is such a majority who finds some interest in it, it is in our best interests to find the one item which DOES interest us.

Why?

Because it gives a topic of conversation which is widely used (sports) to use to engage conversation with those around us.  In this case, even if the audience is not a sports fan, he or she could possible enjoy the drama of the story itself.

Either way, yes, this is "worthless and not news FLASH" to us but we must always try to find the merit in everything.  You may just find you actually like something you didn't think you did.
 
2013-06-26 11:00:38 AM  

SlothB77: Pats still have Ballard, Fells, Hoomanawanoui, Amendola, Edelman, Donald Jones, Michael Jenkins, and possible TEs in Sudfeld and Brandon Ford.  Dobson, Boyce, Slate, Thompkins.


So, they only lost one murderer from their Murders Row?
 
2013-06-26 11:01:16 AM  

Gonz: NightOwl2255: Lost Thought 00: How many other members of the Patriots, and the NFL, are active gang members actively murdering their rivals? Me thinks Hernandez wasn't a lone wolf

Check out Marvin Harrison. Seemed like a good guy, all the while he was basically running a gang back home.

Marvin Harrison might as well have been a Corleone.

Quiet guy, respected, didn't make a media splash... would execute you in a heartbeat with a custom Italian pistol.


Citation please?
I found one article which mentioned Marvin, two shootings and guns in a car but couldn't find anything regarding gangs.
 
2013-06-26 11:06:39 AM  

vudukungfu: Let's all jerk off about football now.
Because this is obviously more important than the use of the constitution as toilet paper, women's rights, racist voting laws in the south, global climate change, droughts, fires, floods, and plagues of locusts (spring breakers) invading towns.


Sometimes people need a little fluff to take a break from the super serious stuff. If all we ever had was the super serious stuff, a lot more people would be suicidal.
 
2013-06-26 11:09:10 AM  

Tom_Slick: I assume it will work just like Micheal Vick


I don't know about that. Remember how the Falcons were not allowed to recover the money they had paid to Vick. When the league renegotiated the player's agreement, there was language put in place because of that fiasco. I don't know how this incident will play out, but I don't think he is as protected as Vick was.
 
2013-06-26 11:09:26 AM  

CreampuffCasperMilktoast: News Flash!.... A person I don't know, who's famous for something I don't care about, is being charged in connection with murdering someone else I don't know, who isn't as famous as the other guy. All this takes place, in a State I don't care about.

/Probably the first of many news flashes today, isn't SCOTUS convening in like 10 minutes?


For $400: Who is George ZImmerman, Alex?
 
2013-06-26 11:14:58 AM  

Earpj: Sometimes people need a little fluff to take a break from the super serious stuff.


How is a murder NOT "super serious stuff"?
 
2013-06-26 11:15:23 AM  

japlemon: So, what you're telling me is that the Ravens just won the Super Bowl and a Patriot is a suspect in a murder?


Mind blown.
 
2013-06-26 11:17:09 AM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Tom_Slick: I assume it will work just like Micheal Vick

I don't know about that. Remember how the Falcons were not allowed to recover the money they had paid to Vick. When the league renegotiated the player's agreement, there was language put in place because of that fiasco. I don't know how this incident will play out, but I don't think he is as protected as Vick was.


I thought the league eventually allowed them to go after Vick, I know the Falcons sued him.
 
2013-06-26 11:17:48 AM  
So does this mean that Pete Carroll can pick him up on waivers?
 
2013-06-26 11:20:44 AM  

Tom_Slick: Sin_City_Superhero: Tom_Slick: I assume it will work just like Micheal Vick

I don't know about that. Remember how the Falcons were not allowed to recover the money they had paid to Vick. When the league renegotiated the player's agreement, there was language put in place because of that fiasco. I don't know how this incident will play out, but I don't think he is as protected as Vick was.

I thought the league eventually allowed them to go after Vick, I know the Falcons sued him.


Falcons sued for the full $37 million signing bonus. They won $20 million, which was reduced to $7 million in bankruptcy settlements.
 
2013-06-26 11:21:47 AM  
In other news. Aaron Hernandez's new prison marriage is now legal in the eyes of the federal government.
 
2013-06-26 11:26:49 AM  
Neat. The Bills could face the Pats on week 1 without either Gronk or Hernandez. Brady will be throwing to Danny Amendola and Jake Ballard.
 
2013-06-26 11:28:42 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: Aarontology: ltdanman44: NightOwl2255: He may not be guilty of any crime, but he's damn sure acting guilt as fark.

destroying your own security system and smashing your own smartphone?  how is that acting guilty?

When it happens right after a homicide of someone Hernandez was closely connected to, it's suspicious as hell.

I'd leave it to the lawyers to discuss the details, but destroying evidence is as obstructiony as obstruction of justice can get.  He's essenmially saying "I don't want to go to jail for murder, but now that it's inevitable I'll have to hedge that by destroying the evidence and gambling for a lesser charge and fewer years in jail.


Its basic property ownership, the owning of property gives you the right to determine what to do with it,  this includes destroying it.
 
2013-06-26 11:32:25 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Neat. The Bills could face the Pats on week 1 without either Gronk or Hernandez. Brady will be throwing to Danny Amendola and Jake Ballard.


I would rather wait until around Week 3, after Amendola gets injured.
 
2013-06-26 11:34:57 AM  

Warlordtrooper: Its basic property ownership, the owning of property gives you the right to determine what to do with it, this includes destroying it.


But it's not JUST property. It's ALSO evidence. And destroying evidence is a crime.
 
2013-06-26 11:38:13 AM  

Warlordtrooper: Nana's Vibrator: Aarontology: ltdanman44: NightOwl2255: He may not be guilty of any crime, but he's damn sure acting guilt as fark.

destroying your own security system and smashing your own smartphone?  how is that acting guilty?

When it happens right after a homicide of someone Hernandez was closely connected to, it's suspicious as hell.

I'd leave it to the lawyers to discuss the details, but destroying evidence is as obstructiony as obstruction of justice can get.  He's essenmially saying "I don't want to go to jail for murder, but now that it's inevitable I'll have to hedge that by destroying the evidence and gambling for a lesser charge and fewer years in jail.

Its basic property ownership, the owning of property gives you the right to determine what to do with it,  this includes destroying it.


I'm pretty sure that if I shoot somebody and then destroy the gun, it's destruction of evidence.

Or, if my wife shoots somebody with my gun and then I destroy it to protect her, it's destruction of evidence.
 
2013-06-26 11:40:24 AM  

Warlordtrooper: Nana's Vibrator: Aarontology: ltdanman44: NightOwl2255: He may not be guilty of any crime, but he's damn sure acting guilt as fark.

destroying your own security system and smashing your own smartphone?  how is that acting guilty?

When it happens right after a homicide of someone Hernandez was closely connected to, it's suspicious as hell.

I'd leave it to the lawyers to discuss the details, but destroying evidence is as obstructiony as obstruction of justice can get.  He's essenmially saying "I don't want to go to jail for murder, but now that it's inevitable I'll have to hedge that by destroying the evidence and gambling for a lesser charge and fewer years in jail.

Its basic property ownership, the owning of property gives you the right to determine what to do with it,  this includes destroying it.


Knowing that something is linked to a crime and damaging it, even if the police do not know if it is linked to a crime, is obstruction. The obvious out for him on that would be to try and claim that both the security system and the phone damage were coincidental and in no way linked to the crime. Probably a tough sell with all the other evidence swirling around
 
2013-06-26 11:45:05 AM  

Odd Bird: Gonz: NightOwl2255: Lost Thought 00: How many other members of the Patriots, and the NFL, are active gang members actively murdering their rivals? Me thinks Hernandez wasn't a lone wolf

Check out Marvin Harrison. Seemed like a good guy, all the while he was basically running a gang back home.

Marvin Harrison might as well have been a Corleone.

Quiet guy, respected, didn't make a media splash... would execute you in a heartbeat with a custom Italian pistol.

Citation please?
I found one article which mentioned Marvin, two shootings and guns in a car but couldn't find anything regarding gangs.


http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3827402

http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/201002/marvin-harrison

Not gangbanger... More Godfather.
 
2013-06-26 11:45:23 AM  
The Broncos have Wes Welker. Why would they want Hernandez?
 
2013-06-26 11:48:18 AM  

Warlordtrooper: Nana's Vibrator: Aarontology: ltdanman44: NightOwl2255: He may not be guilty of any crime, but he's damn sure acting guilt as fark.

destroying your own security system and smashing your own smartphone?  how is that acting guilty?

When it happens right after a homicide of someone Hernandez was closely connected to, it's suspicious as hell.

I'd leave it to the lawyers to discuss the details, but destroying evidence is as obstructiony as obstruction of justice can get.  He's essenmially saying "I don't want to go to jail for murder, but now that it's inevitable I'll have to hedge that by destroying the evidence and gambling for a lesser charge and fewer years in jail.

Its basic property ownership, the owning of property gives you the right to determine what to do with it,  this includes destroying it.


I'm not bored enough to read through laws & case laws, but there have to be some good arguments that destroying evidence is protected by 5th Amendment Rights against self incrimination.  I suppose timing would be critical part of those arguments.
 
2013-06-26 11:51:00 AM  

ltdanman44: NightOwl2255: He may not be guilty of any crime, but he's damn sure acting guilt as fark.

destroying your own security system and smashing your own smartphone?  how is that acting guilty?


Deystroying evidence gives the apperance of hiding something, and wouldn't that also make him guilty of Obstruction of justice?
 
2013-06-26 11:53:03 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: Warlordtrooper: Nana's Vibrator: Aarontology: ltdanman44: NightOwl2255: He may not be guilty of any crime, but he's damn sure acting guilt as fark.

destroying your own security system and smashing your own smartphone?  how is that acting guilty?

When it happens right after a homicide of someone Hernandez was closely connected to, it's suspicious as hell.

I'd leave it to the lawyers to discuss the details, but destroying evidence is as obstructiony as obstruction of justice can get.  He's essenmially saying "I don't want to go to jail for murder, but now that it's inevitable I'll have to hedge that by destroying the evidence and gambling for a lesser charge and fewer years in jail.

Its basic property ownership, the owning of property gives you the right to determine what to do with it,  this includes destroying it.

I'm not bored enough to read through laws & case laws, but there have to be some good arguments that destroying evidence is protected by 5th Amendment Rights against self incrimination.  I suppose timing would be critical part of those arguments.


The Supreme Court just ruled on something similar a little while ago, didn't they? That you have to affirmatively announce that you are exercising the 5th amendment before you are protected by it?
 
2013-06-26 11:58:00 AM  

Nana's Vibrator: Warlordtrooper: Nana's Vibrator: Aarontology: ltdanman44: NightOwl2255: He may not be guilty of any crime, but he's damn sure acting guilt as fark.

destroying your own security system and smashing your own smartphone?  how is that acting guilty?

When it happens right after a homicide of someone Hernandez was closely connected to, it's suspicious as hell.

I'd leave it to the lawyers to discuss the details, but destroying evidence is as obstructiony as obstruction of justice can get.  He's essenmially saying "I don't want to go to jail for murder, but now that it's inevitable I'll have to hedge that by destroying the evidence and gambling for a lesser charge and fewer years in jail.

Its basic property ownership, the owning of property gives you the right to determine what to do with it,  this includes destroying it.

I'm not bored enough to read through laws & case laws, but there have to be some good arguments that destroying evidence is protected by 5th Amendment Rights against self incrimination.  I suppose timing would be critical part of those arguments.


I haven't researched it either, but I can see a big difference between being forced to incriminate yourself, and being permitted to destroy evidence of your guilt.

/Thinking that I just got trolled.
 
2013-06-26 12:03:53 PM  
Wow....just wow...a potential Hall of Fame career down the drain. Why is it so hard to leave the gangbanging life behind when you have options? Is it the power? Just very very sad.
 
2013-06-26 12:16:26 PM  
Why are you Fark assholes purposely going to the Sports Tab, clicking on a Sports comment thread, then whining about a Sports event being focused on instead of whatever it is you think is better? No one forced you to read anything about football anyways.
 
2013-06-26 12:19:51 PM  

skinink: Why are you Fark assholes purposely going to the Sports Tab, clicking on a Sports comment thread, then whining about a Sports event being focused on instead of whatever it is you think is better? No one forced you to read anything about football anyways.


This thread is on the main page as well.  There's a sports tab only thread with less comments that you can join.
 
2013-06-26 12:21:04 PM  
muwaryer:
I haven't researched it either, but I can see a big difference between being forced to incriminate yourself, and being permitted to destroy evidence of your guilt.

/Thinking that I just got trolled.


I f*ck around here a lot, so I can understand why you'd think that.
I don't see it as black and white as you do.  Self incrimination can be verbal or physical (think flag burning and the First Amendment).  I understand there's a distinguishable difference between refusing to answer a question during testimony in a trial and destroying evidence prior to even being arrested, but I think there could be an argument that they both apply under the intent of the 5th Amendment.
 
2013-06-26 12:21:37 PM  
Man, I cannot wait for all the shows on the Murder Channel to get to this story.  "Sins and Secrets," "Most Likely To...," "Behind Mansion Walls"...guess "Swamp Murders" and "Southern Fried Homicide" are out, though.
 
TWX
2013-06-26 12:21:42 PM  

skinink: Why are you Fark assholes purposely going to the Sports Tab, clicking on a Sports comment thread, then whining about a Sports event being focused on instead of whatever it is you think is better? No one forced you to read anything about football anyways.


This showed up on the main page for this liter...

/off to play some Duke Nukem 3D...
 
2013-06-26 12:22:12 PM  
No Bail?
 
2013-06-26 12:25:27 PM  
 
2013-06-26 12:31:28 PM  

CreampuffCasperMilktoast: News Flash!.... A person I don't know, who's famous for something I don't care about, is being charged in connection with murdering someone else I don't know, who isn't as famous as the other guy. All this takes place, in a State I don't care about.

/Probably the first of many news flashes today, isn't SCOTUS convening in like 10 minutes?


It's as if Fark didn't have a Politics tab or something.

Poor precious snowflake.
 
2013-06-26 12:32:45 PM  

robsul82: PFT: Source on what charges Hernandez is facing - "Assume the worst"


The 'worst' would be first degree murder, so....

/or genocide
 
2013-06-26 12:35:32 PM  

nvmac: robsul82: PFT: Source on what charges Hernandez is facing - "Assume the worst"

The 'worst' would be first degree murder, so....

/or genocide


Kiddy Rape Dungeon
 
2013-06-26 12:40:29 PM  
Looks like another chapter to be added to Pros and Cons.
 
2013-06-26 12:41:05 PM  

Lost Thought 00: nvmac: robsul82: PFT: Source on what charges Hernandez is facing - "Assume the worst"

The 'worst' would be first degree murder, so....

/or genocide

Kiddy Rape Dungeon


Using a cell phone in a movie theatre
 
2013-06-26 12:42:31 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Neat. The Bills could face the Pats on week 1 without either Gronk or Hernandez. Brady will be throwing to Danny Amendola and Jake Ballard.


Amendola will be hurt by week one.
 
2013-06-26 12:43:35 PM  

robsul82: PFT: Source on what charges Hernandez is facing - "Assume the worst"


I refuse to believe a guy who dumps a body about a mile away from his house would be dumb enough to leave a substantial body of evidence for the prosecution in a murder charge.   I thought were were dealing with a criminal mastermind.
 
2013-06-26 12:44:59 PM  

nvmac: robsul82: PFT: Source on what charges Hernandez is facing - "Assume the worst"

The 'worst' would be first degree murder, so....

/or genocide


www.anomalousmaterial.com

You've got to get rid of the bloody plastic suit too, house cleaners.
 
2013-06-26 12:46:40 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: This is what happens when you make decisions about players based on athleticism rather than moral character. These players are heroes for kids who look up to them. When you hire thugs like Hernandez, you send a message that it doesn't matter what bad things you do in your private life, as long as you can deliver on the field.

It's not a good message to be sending to young athletes.


there's only so much any organization can do to steer somebody in the right direction, it sounds like Hernandez's worst behaviors came back out once he got paid

also blame Urban Meyer for letting this kid's behavior go on for the sake of winning some college games

InmanRoshi: So does this mean that Pete Carroll can pick him up on waivers?


or Chip Kelly
 
2013-06-26 12:52:22 PM  

CreampuffCasperMilktoast: News Flash!.... A person I don't know, who's famous for something I don't care about, is being charged in connection with murdering someone else I don't know, who isn't as famous as the other guy. All this takes place, in a State I don't care about.

/Probably the first of many news flashes today, isn't SCOTUS convening in like 10 minutes?


And yet you took the time to post in the thread
 
2013-06-26 01:05:22 PM  
Hernandez will be arraigned at 2 PM eastern, so unless there's any spoilers (NO SPOILERS), we'll know the charges then.

i.qkme.me
 
2013-06-26 01:06:57 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Warlordtrooper: Nana's Vibrator: Aarontology: ltdanman44: NightOwl2255: He may not be guilty of any crime, but he's damn sure acting guilt as fark.

destroying your own security system and smashing your own smartphone?  how is that acting guilty?

When it happens right after a homicide of someone Hernandez was closely connected to, it's suspicious as hell.

I'd leave it to the lawyers to discuss the details, but destroying evidence is as obstructiony as obstruction of justice can get.  He's essenmially saying "I don't want to go to jail for murder, but now that it's inevitable I'll have to hedge that by destroying the evidence and gambling for a lesser charge and fewer years in jail.

Its basic property ownership, the owning of property gives you the right to determine what to do with it,  this includes destroying it.

I'm not bored enough to read through laws & case laws, but there have to be some good arguments that destroying evidence is protected by 5th Amendment Rights against self incrimination.  I suppose timing would be critical part of those arguments.


The relevant text only says he cannot be compelled to be a witness against himself, so I'm not sure how destruction of evidence would be protected by the 5th...

(No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. )
 
2013-06-26 01:08:13 PM  
Have they arrested any of the other two guys?  Not a damn thing is really being said about any other part of the investigation except whether Hernandez was in his house.
 
2013-06-26 01:13:22 PM  
Good.

/Patriots fan
 
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