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(BBC)   Cheese tastes saltier when eaten from a knife rather than a fork; while white spoons make yoghurt taste better, experiments show. The study in the journal Flavour suggests the brain makes judgements on food even before it goes in the mouth   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 73
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2013-06-26 09:44:03 AM  
My yog hurts.
 
2013-06-26 10:40:26 AM  
andrewjpatrick.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-26 11:13:56 AM  
This doesn't surprise me since the brain does nothing but interpret information and make assumptions based on past experiences
 
2013-06-26 11:17:19 AM  
So if I color my _____ orange, it should taste like _____?
 
2013-06-26 11:17:29 AM  
Same reason Jolt cola from the can was ambrosia but Jolt cola from a bottle tasted like ass.
 
2013-06-26 11:17:55 AM  
I totally believe that.  i strongly prefer beer out of bottles or mugs, and there is NO chemical reason in the world for that to matter one tiny bit.
 
2013-06-26 11:18:10 AM  
Well duh!  How do you think McDonald's stays in business?


ADVERTISING.
 
2013-06-26 11:18:32 AM  
That's why I always put a white spoon on my dick.
 
2013-06-26 11:18:37 AM  
Anyone with kids know that many people decide whether they're going to like a food or not well before they take a bite
 
2013-06-26 11:19:20 AM  
I have poured orange juice into a cup, and then (because I'm half-awake) thought I was about to drink milk.  For the first split-second, it tastes like milk.
 
2013-06-26 11:20:23 AM  
Is this why my mom says everything she drinks out of plastic cups tastes bad?
 
2013-06-26 11:20:43 AM  

drb9: I have poured orange juice into a cup, and then (because I'm half-awake) thought I was about to drink milk.  For the first split-second, it tastes like milk.


I call shenanigans
 
2013-06-26 11:20:44 AM  
Try this.
1. Leave ice cold water on the table until it reaches room temperature.
2. Leave hot coffee on the table until it reaches room temperature.

Take a drink of the water. It will be warm.
Take a drink of the coffee. It will be cold.

30yearsofgrowingpains.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-26 11:22:16 AM  
Don't worry, women do the same thing with your wiener
 
2013-06-26 11:23:39 AM  
CSB:

My daughter had this idea to do a science fair project about scent.  So, my wife and I, being helpful as we are, helped her conduct an experiment whereas me, our son, and a cat, all smelled the same substinces while blindfolded.

This is what we learned...
My son and I had a general idea what we would be smelling, but not really sure.  The cat...  Well, we just had to go by how strongly he reacted.  Neither my son or I scored 100% on what we were sniffing.  Sometimes we were so wildly off that it was laughable.  I thought cinnamon smelled like a cut orange, for instance.

It was a very interesting experiment, and a great idea on my daughter's part.  She got an A.

The point is, when you remove one of your senses from the equation (like sight, for instance), your brain jumps through some really strange hoops to determine what the rest of your senses are experiencing.

This is true.  And I encourage you to try it yourself.  It's pretty freaky.
 
2013-06-26 11:23:45 AM  

solokumba: Try this.
1. Leave ice cold water on the table until it reaches room temperature.
2. Leave hot coffee on the table until it reaches room temperature.

Take a drink of the water. It will be warm.
Take a drink of the coffee. It will be cold.

[30yearsofgrowingpains.files.wordpress.com image 224x225]


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-06-26 11:29:17 AM  
Eating cold Spagetti-O's from the can, leaning over the sink while hung over, makes them taste more like vomit. Warming them up and eating them off an attractive plate doesn't really help much though.
 
2013-06-26 11:33:29 AM  

durbnpoisn: CSB:

My daughter had this idea to do a science fair project about scent.  So, my wife and I, being helpful as we are, helped her conduct an experiment whereas me, our son, and a cat, all smelled the same substinces while blindfolded.

This is what we learned...
My son and I had a general idea what we would be smelling, but not really sure.  The cat...  Well, we just had to go by how strongly he reacted.


this was CLEARLY just an excuse to blindfold the cat
 
2013-06-26 11:39:48 AM  
Try serving your guests green meat.  Let us know how that works.
 
2013-06-26 11:42:11 AM  
put it in your mouth
 
2013-06-26 11:48:01 AM  

fireclown: i strongly prefer beer out of bottles or mugs, and there is NO chemical reason in the world for that to matter one tiny bit.


Eh, it depends.  Bottles are transparent so the contents are exposed to light, and your mouth can feel the difference between metal and glass.  But fark all if I know whether actual flavor molecules are altered by exposure to the radiation, or how well the tongue can distinguish between the taste of aluminum vs. silicon dioxide.

The lesson here is that there's a placebo effect when it comes to flavor, and it's so strong that it can overpower real chemical differences in food.  But let's not go the other way and blindly accept the notion that the brain can't distinguish flavors for shiat.  The only way to really know is to conduct experiments that involve drinking beer in all sorts of scenarios.  It's a rough job but somebody's gotta do it -- and since you're openly biased, I'm afraid you don't qualify.  Sorry.
 
2013-06-26 11:50:06 AM  
So seriously is there any scientific reason for plastic dishes/cups making things taste off?
 
2013-06-26 12:08:37 PM  

durbnpoisn: The point is, when you remove one of your senses from the equation (like sight, for instance), your brain jumps through some really strange hoops to determine what the rest of your senses are experiencing.

This is true.  And I encourage you to try it yourself.  It's pretty freaky.


Is this why sex is better in the dark?
/Not that I remember that far back.
 
2013-06-26 12:19:20 PM  

A Terrible Human: So seriously is there any scientific reason for plastic dishes/cups making things taste off?


Bisphenol A.
 
2013-06-26 12:20:50 PM  

Lady J: durbnpoisn: CSB:

My daughter had this idea to do a science fair project about scent.  So, my wife and I, being helpful as we are, helped her conduct an experiment whereas me, our son, and a cat, all smelled the same substinces while blindfolded.

This is what we learned...
My son and I had a general idea what we would be smelling, but not really sure.  The cat...  Well, we just had to go by how strongly he reacted.

this was CLEARLY just an excuse to blindfold the cat


I wouldn't trust a cat's judgement when it comes to smell. One of my cats insists on smelling anything he sees me eating or drinking, but more often than not reacts after he's smelled it like I just presented him with the most vile substance on the planet.

/ccsb
 
2013-06-26 12:23:01 PM  

drb9: I have poured orange juice into a cup, and then (because I'm half-awake) thought I was about to drink milk.  For the first split-second, it tastes like milk.


Both are initially acidic. As you taste sour before sweet, or before you register the mouth-feel of milk fats, you'll get an early similar response to both.
 
2013-06-26 12:23:47 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: This doesn't surprise me since the brain does nothing but interpret information and make assumptions based on past experiences


it wouldn't surprise you, would it?
 
2013-06-26 12:25:00 PM  

Ishidan: A Terrible Human: So seriously is there any scientific reason for plastic dishes/cups making things taste off?

Bisphenol A.


For real? I used to have some bowls that had huge labels on the bottom warning you not to heat them up because they were made with melamine. First time I noticed that those farkers went in the garbage.
 
2013-06-26 12:28:33 PM  
Cheese tastes saltier when eaten from a knife rather than a fork.

Maybe a little saltier. Actually kind of a coppery, salty taste.
 
2013-06-26 12:30:41 PM  

bdub77: solokumba: Try this.
1. Leave ice cold water on the table until it reaches room temperature.
2. Leave hot coffee on the table until it reaches room temperature.

Take a drink of the water. It will be warm.
Take a drink of the coffee. It will be cold.

[30yearsofgrowingpains.files.wordpress.com image 224x225]

[24.media.tumblr.com image 200x200]


this
 
2013-06-26 12:32:41 PM  
drb9:   For the first split-second, it tastes like milk.
 
2013-06-26 12:35:44 PM  

A Terrible Human: So seriously is there any scientific reason for plastic dishes/cups making things taste off?


I don't know, but until Tervis tumblers I was loathe to drink from a plastic cup. I don't like eating from plasticware either.
 
2013-06-26 12:37:46 PM  
I'm not sure I understand the fork/cheese thing.

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2013-06-26 12:38:56 PM  
Yes, like most people I figured this out when I was a kid, however: I didn't have any replicable, objective evidence to support the claim. These people do - good on them.
 
2013-06-26 12:48:56 PM  
This guy used to say "first we eat with the nose, then we eat with the eyes, THEN we eat with the mouth."

/ RIP, opera-singing, wine-swilling TV chef guy.
 
2013-06-26 12:53:42 PM  

tuna fingers: I'm not sure I understand the fork/cheese thing.

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A majority of the people that I know that are 40+ all say that the commodity cheese was the best.
 
2013-06-26 12:53:49 PM  

amindtat: Lady J: durbnpoisn: CSB:

My daughter had this idea to do a science fair project about scent.  So, my wife and I, being helpful as we are, helped her conduct an experiment whereas me, our son, and a cat, all smelled the same substinces while blindfolded.

This is what we learned...
My son and I had a general idea what we would be smelling, but not really sure.  The cat...  Well, we just had to go by how strongly he reacted.

this was CLEARLY just an excuse to blindfold the cat

I wouldn't trust a cat's judgement when it comes to smell. One of my cats insists on smelling anything he sees me eating or drinking, but more often than not reacts after he's smelled it like I just presented him with the most vile substance on the planet.

/ccsb


But don't cats eat based on smell? That's why they LOVE earwax (shudder). Earwax has a high amount of protein. That's what the cat smells.

Based on that, I trust a cat's judgement when it comes to smells.
 
2013-06-26 01:09:15 PM  
Well,

bambi121899: amindtat: Lady J: durbnpoisn: CSB:

My daughter had this idea to do a science fair project about scent.  So, my wife and I, being helpful as we are, helped her conduct an experiment whereas me, our son, and a cat, all smelled the same substinces while blindfolded.

This is what we learned...
My son and I had a general idea what we would be smelling, but not really sure.  The cat...  Well, we just had to go by how strongly he reacted.

this was CLEARLY just an excuse to blindfold the cat

I wouldn't trust a cat's judgement when it comes to smell. One of my cats insists on smelling anything he sees me eating or drinking, but more often than not reacts after he's smelled it like I just presented him with the most vile substance on the planet.

/ccsb

But don't cats eat based on smell? That's why they LOVE earwax (shudder). Earwax has a high amount of protein. That's what the cat smells.

Based on that, I trust a cat's judgement when it comes to smells.


It was my daughters idea to include the cat.  And we didn't blindfold him.  We just passed the little bowls in front of him and, sort of, measured his reaction.  And in a way, it was still a sensible part of the experiment.  Because the strength of the smell correlated with our human reactions, even if we couldn't tell what the substance was (this is why charts are a good thing in experiments).

Here is a good thing to know about how cats smell things.  If they don't get a strong enough whiff from their nose, they open their mouth.  They do this whether it's a good smell or a bad one.  Point being, part of how we could measure his reaction was whether or not he opened his mouth to get a better scent.

One of the other cats in the house loves to climb all over shoes that have just recently been worn.  Loves the hell out of them.  Now that's just weird.
 
2013-06-26 01:19:02 PM  

bambi121899: amindtat: Lady J: durbnpoisn: CSB:

My daughter had this idea to do a science fair project about scent.  So, my wife and I, being helpful as we are, helped her conduct an experiment whereas me, our son, and a cat, all smelled the same substinces while blindfolded.

This is what we learned...
My son and I had a general idea what we would be smelling, but not really sure.  The cat...  Well, we just had to go by how strongly he reacted.

this was CLEARLY just an excuse to blindfold the cat

I wouldn't trust a cat's judgement when it comes to smell. One of my cats insists on smelling anything he sees me eating or drinking, but more often than not reacts after he's smelled it like I just presented him with the most vile substance on the planet.

/ccsb

But don't cats eat based on smell? That's why they LOVE earwax (shudder). Earwax has a high amount of protein. That's what the cat smells.

Based on that, I trust a cat's judgement when it comes to smells.


Good point. Both of my cats are absolutely entranced by the smell of my shih-tzu's ears. The shih-tzu on the other hand eats her own poop. Now that I think about it...maybe I should try blindfolding the dog.
 
2013-06-26 01:19:33 PM  
The study in the journal Flavour suggests the brain makes judgements on food even before it goes in the mouth

it would appear then that most Foodies have eyes and actually use them.


Do the authors become embarrassed AS the write this drivel, or only after it's published?
 
2013-06-26 01:23:34 PM  

durbnpoisn: Well, bambi121899: amindtat: Lady J: durbnpoisn: CSB:

...

One of the other cats in the house loves to climb all over shoes that have just recently been worn.  Loves the hell out of them.  Now that's just weird.


the soles of my shoes are the only glimpses into the outside world my cat ever experiences.  ha ha ha ha!
 
2013-06-26 01:29:37 PM  
you know what else is salty when you see it coming in your mouth?
 
2013-06-26 01:33:17 PM  
I guess that's why many restaurants are dimly lit.  They just want to fark with your mind about how the food tastes.
 
2013-06-26 01:42:03 PM  
I only drink milk from glass D cups.  Plastic imparts undesireable flavor and scent to the milk.
 
2013-06-26 01:44:30 PM  
Judgement=judgment
Yoghurt=yogurt
Flavour=flavor
Subby=dumass

Lurn to speel.

Morans
 
2013-06-26 01:44:48 PM  

durbnpoisn: Well, bambi121899: amindtat: Lady J: durbnpoisn: CSB:

My daughter had this idea to do a science fair project about scent.  So, my wife and I, being helpful as we are, helped her conduct an experiment whereas me, our son, and a cat, all smelled the same substinces while blindfolded.

This is what we learned...
My son and I had a general idea what we would be smelling, but not really sure.  The cat...  Well, we just had to go by how strongly he reacted.

this was CLEARLY just an excuse to blindfold the cat

I wouldn't trust a cat's judgement when it comes to smell. One of my cats insists on smelling anything he sees me eating or drinking, but more often than not reacts after he's smelled it like I just presented him with the most vile substance on the planet.

/ccsb

But don't cats eat based on smell? That's why they LOVE earwax (shudder). Earwax has a high amount of protein. That's what the cat smells.

Based on that, I trust a cat's judgement when it comes to smells.

It was my daughters idea to include the cat.  And we didn't blindfold him.  We just passed the little bowls in front of him and, sort of, measured his reaction.  And in a way, it was still a sensible part of the experiment.  Because the strength of the smell correlated with our human reactions, even if we couldn't tell what the substance was (this is why charts are a good thing in experiments).

Here is a good thing to know about how cats smell things.  If they don't get a strong enough whiff from their nose, they open their mouth.  They do this whether it's a good smell or a bad one.  Point being, part of how we could measure his reaction was whether or not he opened his mouth to get a better scent.

One of the other cats in the house loves to climb all over shoes that have just recently been worn.  Loves the hell out of them.  Now that's just weird.


Cats are odd. Very odd. I didn't know about the opening of the mouth thing, though. Cool.
 
2013-06-26 01:51:03 PM  

durbnpoisn: CSB:

My daughter had this idea to do a science fair project about scent.  So, my wife and I, being helpful as we are, helped her conduct an experiment whereas me, our son, and a cat, all smelled the same substinces while blindfolded.

This is what we learned...
My son and I had a general idea what we would be smelling, but not really sure.  The cat...  Well, we just had to go by how strongly he reacted.  Neither my son or I scored 100% on what we were sniffing.  Sometimes we were so wildly off that it was laughable.  I thought cinnamon smelled like a cut orange, for instance.

It was a very interesting experiment, and a great idea on my daughter's part.  She got an A.

The point is, when you remove one of your senses from the equation (like sight, for instance), your brain jumps through some really strange hoops to determine what the rest of your senses are experiencing.

This is true.  And I encourage you to try it yourself.  It's pretty freaky.


The sense of smell is also affected by hormone levels.  For women that have reached puberty and haven't hit menopause, their ovarian cycle will affect their ability to smell and which smells are more preferable.  Maybe for a follow up experiment, you should do the experiment on different days and correlate that with their monthly cycle. - Although testosterone levels do fluctuate in males, it does not fluctuate as much as estrogen or progesterone (you can act as the control).
 
2013-06-26 01:57:45 PM  

blatz514: [andrewjpatrick.files.wordpress.com image 400x312]


that overused meme wants nuking from orbit. Who cares? Other people do.
 
2013-06-26 02:00:57 PM  

dragonchild: Bottles are transparent so the contents are exposed to light,


There is a reason that brown glass bottles are so popular.
 
2013-06-26 02:02:14 PM  

PsyLord: I guess that's why many restaurants are dimly lit.  They just want to fark with your mind about how the food tastes.


a good restaurant will actually work hard to create special lighting for every table, so that, from the seated positions, the shadows are all in the right place, the lighting is right, etc.  and the waiters put the plates in the spot to be most aesthetically pleasing, with the food at angles to best hit the light.

i don't care about being tricked.  eating is about the experience.  that includes everything from food, taste, appearance, service, lighting, decor, noise, etc.

of course, where i live, the food is so good and the people are so demanding and critical, that every little trick in the book has to be pulled out to compete with other restaurants (unless you make the miserable decision to cater to tourists).
 
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