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2013-06-26 04:24:36 AM  

frostus: I loved my 1966 Corvair. Maybe I can buy a new one now.


Don't do it!

CSB time. My girlfriends moms new husband tried to impress us with telling us about his Corvair he used to have. Bragged to me that he had all the service records. I came back with, "Wow! How big was the trailer? They sure didn't fit in the glove box!"
 
2013-06-26 04:25:01 AM  
"Perfect car" and an American made brand don't belong in the same headline.
 
2013-06-26 04:25:20 AM  

Lifeless: The only reason people buy them is to remind them of the days when driving was fun, seatbelts weren't mandatory and drunk driving was only a crime if you killed somebody.


And then, not even always!
laurabush.jpg
 
2013-06-26 04:35:54 AM  
you people are losers. I used to drive one of these.

pimix.com

'cept it was like seven years ago and it was all rusted to hell and cost $500 but I was a broke mofo and the speedometer would bounce until it hit 40 or so and the rear view mirror fell off and the AM radio was mostly squwak unless you turned it up real high so I didn't notice that cop that chased me out of town 'cause I didn't know I blew through his speed trap. they threw me in jail over that. with a warrant out in the whole state of nebrasky even. it is good to be a caprice classic gangsta. damn, it's good.
 
2013-06-26 05:41:58 AM  
I'd dig a '71-'76 Caprice/Impala survivor.  Bonus if it were a '74 Spirit of America sport coupe, a "glasshouse" coupe or a wagon.  Problem is, us demolition derby guys wrecked a fark-ton of them over the years, much in the way it's hard to find a Monte Carlo or Chevelle since they were choice rides of circle track drivers.  Same difference.

Had the opportunity to drive some wagons as drivers.  They sucked gas like there's no tomorrow.  The tanks tend to leak and are a PITA to fix.  It was still fun.  Never wrecked one myself.
 
2013-06-26 06:15:11 AM  

Ed Becker: I'd dig a '71-'76 Caprice/Impala survivor.  Bonus if it were a '74 Spirit of America sport coupe, a "glasshouse" coupe or a wagon.  Problem is, us demolition derby guys wrecked a fark-ton of them over the years, much in the way it's hard to find a Monte Carlo or Chevelle since they were choice rides of circle track drivers.  Same difference.

Had the opportunity to drive some wagons as drivers.  They sucked gas like there's no tomorrow.  The tanks tend to leak and are a PITA to fix.  It was still fun.  Never wrecked one myself.


I inherited my Dad's 1974 Impala Sport Coupe.  Big ass car that actually drove alright after upgrading the shocks and springs.  Put 250K on it before sending to the junkyard.
 
2013-06-26 06:39:12 AM  
I'm only interested in an 83 Corvette.
 
2013-06-26 06:40:54 AM  
If I wanted a perfect car, wouldn't I want something newer?  Do these cars even have automatic transmission?  Anti-lock brakes?  Air bags?  Backup rear camera?  Obviously not.  By the time you retrofitted this to be as good as a new car, you might as well just be a new car.
 
2013-06-26 06:53:58 AM  

2wolves: I had an Astre' which was the Vega with AC and a slightly larger engine. Not a bad car.


Also, it was a Pontiac.
 
2013-06-26 07:02:02 AM  
My first car was a 62 Corvair that I bought when I was 15, for $50 I made mowing lawns.  Id love to have one again...
 
2013-06-26 07:07:56 AM  

Medic Zero: 2wolves: I had an Astre' which was the Vega with AC and a slightly larger engine. Not a bad car.

Did it have the same aluminum engine block as the Vega? Because IIRC, that was one of the biggest problems with that car.


Medic Zero: 2wolves: I had an Astre' which was the Vega with AC and a slightly larger engine. Not a bad car.

Did it have the same aluminum engine block as the Vega? Because IIRC, that was one of the biggest problems with that car


it was the Pontiac version so it was a little fancier. it had the same crappy engine as the vega, you had to sleeve the aluminum block. at the end of the run they changed to the 151ci "iron duke" which was all cast iron.
here comes spyder  out of the night,
don't worry honey, it ain't gonna bite,
it's a Monza!!


/same car. that jingle has been in my head since the 70's
 
2013-06-26 07:20:34 AM  

Forced Perspective: If I wanted a perfect car, wouldn't I want something newer?  Do these cars even have automatic transmission?  Anti-lock brakes?  Air bags?  Backup rear camera?  Obviously not.  By the time you retrofitted this to be as good as a new car, you might as well just be a new car.


Even if you did all that you would still die in any accident over 35mph.
 
2013-06-26 07:27:19 AM  

Forced Perspective: If I wanted a perfect car, wouldn't I want something newer?  Do these cars even have automatic transmission?  Anti-lock brakes?  Air bags?  Backup rear camera?  Obviously not.  By the time you retrofitted this to be as good as a new car, you might as well just be a new car.


1) maybe, just depends.
2) no, but the vast majority of people don't know what these are, or how to properly apply them.
3) jeez, don't be such a pussy, they have lap belts, you plan on living forever?
4) yes, but back then you had to drape your right arm over the back of the shotgun seat, and turn your head around.
 
2013-06-26 07:30:10 AM  

Tellingthem: "Among the dozen low-miles pickups sits a 1956 Chevrolet Cameo pickup with an odometer reading of just over one mile, and a 1965 Chevy Impala with six miles that still has its original window sticker and the plastic sheeting that covered its red leather seats. Although even ardent Corvette fans look askance at the late '70s models, the '78 version here with five miles has an appeal that's grown over time."

I love survivor cars. the ouside on some of these look a little rough but the interiors looks minty...


I love those vettes. Sure...lowest build quality, huge drop in power and performance from the gen before...but those were all over when I was a kid, its the first style of vette I recall seeing.
 
2013-06-26 07:33:52 AM  
Bbbut, they're Chevys.  So this isn't an automotive time capsule as much as its a collection of car
coprolites.

Except the 'Vette.  That's a sweet ride.
 
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2013-06-26 07:36:21 AM  
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2013-06-26 07:38:19 AM  

SpinStopper: Give me any one of those, a fair amount of funds and a garage, and I could seriously make something of it.

You have to realize that every single part of the vehicle has to be examined and/or repaired.  The engine, for instance, will need to be disassembled and repaired before you crank it up for the first time.  Same for the rest of the vehicle, if you give a damn about the thing.  Entropy (see: decay, rust, oxidation, etc.) will take place, and you have to do something about that.

But I'd really love to be given the opportunity to restore one of those babies ;)


Engines designed to run on leaded fuel need new rings or they will self-destruct.  Lead provided lubricity.
 
2013-06-26 07:47:10 AM  

lewismarktwo: Even if you did all that you would still die in any accident over 35mph.


Yeah, legit point.

one-in-the-chamber: Forced Perspective: If I wanted a perfect car, wouldn't I want something newer?  Do these cars even have automatic transmission?  Anti-lock brakes?  Air bags?  Backup rear camera?  Obviously not.  By the time you retrofitted this to be as good as a new car, you might as well just be a new car.

1) maybe, just depends.
2) no, but the vast majority of people don't know what these are, or how to properly apply them.
3) jeez, don't be such a pussy, they have lap belts, you plan on living forever?
4) yes, but back then you had to drape your right arm over the back of the shotgun seat, and turn your head around.


1) Okay...
2) Isn't the point of abs that you don't need to know how to apply them?  If you want the car to stop, then slam the brakes.  There's no stupid "pumping" mechanic.
3) I do not plan on living forever.  I don't plan dying by deliberately driving a car that is less safe.
4) So it's worse.  Got it.

And I only scratched the surface.  The reality is that today's cars are more fuel efficient and safer than anything created back then.  The average driver may not know that they have electronic stability control, electronic brakeforce distribution and adaptive headlamps, but there are people alive today because today's cars are better.
 
2013-06-26 07:50:55 AM  
I'm still waiting for the crates of thousands of WWII motorcycles to be dug up somewhere. All packed in grease, waiting to be assembled.

I'm going to be waiting a long time.
 
2013-06-26 08:07:58 AM  
Le sigh... my DREAM car is a '55 Chevy Bel Air (though a '53 or '57 would do in a pinch). Metal fleck Lake Placid Blue,
white leather interior, whitewalls, etc...
 
2013-06-26 08:09:33 AM  

Munchkin City Coroner: "Perfect car" and an American made brand don't belong in the same headline.


I disagree: Tucker was an American marque.
 
2013-06-26 08:09:44 AM  
I visited this dealership back in the 80s. The old boy wouldn't sell anything. The rows upon rows of trade ins from over the years out on the farm are a shame.They are on the farm outside of town. Supposedly the family made their money in oil down south and the dealership was more for fun than a business. There is an impressive amount of memorabilia lying around that will also bring in some big money.
 
2013-06-26 08:12:09 AM  
I would be concerned if the cars would still run.  Don't the seals and gaskets break down when just sitting, kind of dry rot?
 
2013-06-26 08:21:09 AM  

Forced Perspective: lewismarktwo: Even if you did all that you would still die in any accident over 35mph.

And I only scratched the surface.  The reality is that today's cars are more fuel efficient and safer than anything created back then.  The average driver may not know that they have electronic stability control, electronic brakeforce distribution and adaptive headlamps, but there are people alive today because today's cars are better.


There are more people alive today because the back seats of those cars were better (if ya know what I mean ...)
 
2013-06-26 08:26:52 AM  
TiredWings:  Yer full of sheet. An 86 Vette engine is more of a pain to do anything with than anything else GM ever offered. Next thing you will say is that you used the 4 + 3 transmission also......

"It's a bullshiat question.  Cause Chevy didn't make a 327 in '55. The 327 didn't come out til '62. And it wasn't offered in the Bellaire with the 4-barrel carburetor til '64. However, in 1964 the correct ignition timing would be 4 degrees before top dead center."
 
2013-06-26 08:31:42 AM  

lack of warmth: I would be concerned if the cars would still run.  Don't the seals and gaskets break down when just sitting, kind of dry rot?


Since these cars were stored indoors and didn't have the typical heat cycles that driven cars experience, most of the gaskets and seals should be fine - or at least not compromised to the point of failing. You'd probably want to take them apart and replace most of them, but that isn't incredibly difficult for someone who knows what they are doing.

I have a Chevy from later in this era ('67 Impala) that has a lot of its original rubber and it was driven and sat outdoors its whole life up until a few years ago - the engine was replaced in the late 70s so I can't speak to the seals.
 
2013-06-26 08:31:43 AM  

Forced Perspective: If I wanted a perfect car, wouldn't I want something newer?  Do these cars even have automatic transmission?  Anti-lock brakes?  Air bags?  Backup rear camera?  Obviously not.  By the time you retrofitted this to be as good as a new car, you might as well just be a new car.


Automatic transmissions became optional in GM cars in the 1940s, so it's a good bet many of these cars are equipped with one. It's not hard to use a manual and performance cars like the 'vette are more desirable with a stickshift.
The installation of seat belts became optional in the 50s and mandatory in the 60s, so a good many of them will also have those.
Many GM cars had optional air bags in the 70s, but few people ordered them, so these cars probably don't have them.
Antilock brakes did not get into general use until the late 80s, but many cars still don't have them today.
Backup camera ? if you must have one, they're easy and cheap to retrofit. But if you must have one, maybe you're not a very good driver...

At any rate, you're missing the point of driving an old car.

/unless you're a troll
 
2013-06-26 08:42:23 AM  

Turbo Cojones: SpinStopper: Give me any one of those, a fair amount of funds and a garage, and I could seriously make something of it.

You have to realize that every single part of the vehicle has to be examined and/or repaired.  The engine, for instance, will need to be disassembled and repaired before you crank it up for the first time.  Same for the rest of the vehicle, if you give a damn about the thing.  Entropy (see: decay, rust, oxidation, etc.) will take place, and you have to do something about that.

But I'd really love to be given the opportunity to restore one of those babies ;)

Engines designed to run on leaded fuel need new rings or they will self-destruct.  Lead provided lubricity.



Valve seats are the problem, not rings.
American cars from the early 70s onward are designed to run on unleaded, as its introduction was already planned. For the older ones you can get lead replacement additives.
 
2013-06-26 08:59:53 AM  

Forced Perspective: If I wanted a perfect car, wouldn't I want something newer?  Do these cars even have automatic transmission?  Anti-lock brakes?  Air bags?  Backup rear camera?  Obviously not.  By the time you retrofitted this to be as good as a new car, you might as well just be a new car.


The advantages of a manual transmission are obvious once someone attempts to car-jack you...
 
2013-06-26 09:07:36 AM  

toetag: TiredWings:  Yer full of sheet. An 86 Vette engine is more of a pain to do anything with than anything else GM ever offered. Next thing you will say is that you used the 4 + 3 transmission also......

"It's a bullshiat question.  Cause Chevy didn't make a 327 in '55. The 327 didn't come out til '62. And it wasn't offered in the Bellaire with the 4-barrel carburetor til '64. However, in 1964 the correct ignition timing would be 4 degrees before top dead center."


Lol...dead on balls accurate.

/ it's an industry term.
 
2013-06-26 09:10:18 AM  
 
2013-06-26 09:13:07 AM  
Wretched:
The advantages of a manual transmission are obvious once someone attempts to car-jack you...

Other than the gun in your face, how awesome would that be.

You: lean back and say, "ok, I'm cool with that. Just don't shoot me. You know how to drive a stick shift right?"

Cjacker: "F that", and walks away head down under the weight of your smug.
 
2013-06-26 09:19:15 AM  
Call me when they find one of these.

image.streetrodderweb.com

/Step into my Rocket 88.
 
2013-06-26 09:28:55 AM  
Does anyone know if the sale is in Pierce on Sept. 28-29?
 
2013-06-26 09:32:20 AM  

verbaltoxin: Call me when they find one of these.

[image.streetrodderweb.com image 640x480]

/Step into my Rocket 88.


Sweet -- as so many '57 models are.
 
2013-06-26 09:43:51 AM  

Pete_Penguin: Does anyone know if the sale is in Pierce on Sept. 28-29?


Articles I've seen say the auction is in the end of August...
 
2013-06-26 09:46:08 AM  

Krumet: Dibs on the Corvair Monza.


You have good taste in cars! Protip:you can get one for $4K, daily driver condition, all day on ebay motors or Craigslist.

Forced Perspective: The reality is that today's cars are more fuel efficient and safer than anything created back then.


I used to think so, until I restored a 1975 Honda Civic. Turned and stopped on a dime, got 50 miles to the gallon, and when I got hit, I was completely unharmed, and drove away from the wreck. Her brand new Kia was totaled. In my opinion, most of the "improvements" made to cars are in the name of comfort. All the safety improvements, beyond, say seatbelts and airbags are just automation of proper driving procedures (like traction control and ABS). Drivetrain "improvements" are just there to offset the increased weight of comfort features.

They made a < 1 ton car in 1975 that outperforms most of the cars made today weighing twice or even three times as much.
 
2013-06-26 09:56:18 AM  
Vega owner here (1973 base model 4 speed hatch back) I bought the car the day Reagan was shot for $600 bucks. I fixed the previous owner's repair jobs then drove the piss out of it till the motor just smoked too bad. Pulled the engine had the block steel sleeved and drove the hell out of it for years. I parked it and almost had it crushed in the California smog program (you were payed $600 bucks for it) but hung on to it and built a race car. People love them (Vega's) or despise them, some of the best GM horror stories were about Vega's (car started rusting when they got it home) or about the early S10 Blazer's (tranny blew up just after they picked up the car from the dealer). Years ago the local junk yard had a flyer wanting cars but on the bottom it said "NO VEGA'S OR PINTO'S". I"ll never sell my Vega, the car always treated me great and still does.
 
2013-06-26 10:05:17 AM  

cardex: I see WB or Disney buying them all for back lot props


I don't think so. Even with the paint looking rough, the low mileage and the mint condition says to me that they're going to have to pay Barrett Jackson type prices for these cars, rather than Craigslist.
 
2013-06-26 10:24:03 AM  

Hiro-ACiD: Lifeless: The only reason people buy them is to remind them of the days when driving was fun, seatbelts weren't mandatory and drunk driving was only a crime if you killed somebody.

And then, not even always!
laurabush.jpg


There was no indication that alcohol was involved.  Tragic accidents do sometimes just happen.
 
2013-06-26 10:25:13 AM  

fusillade762: Although even ardent Corvette fans look askance at the late '70s models

They do?

================

Ever drive a late 70s Corvette in stock form?  They sucked, sucked something powerful.
 
2013-06-26 10:41:51 AM  

capt.hollister: Turbo Cojones: SpinStopper: Give me any one of those, a fair amount of funds and a garage, and I could seriously make something of it.

You have to realize that every single part of the vehicle has to be examined and/or repaired.  The engine, for instance, will need to be disassembled and repaired before you crank it up for the first time.  Same for the rest of the vehicle, if you give a damn about the thing.  Entropy (see: decay, rust, oxidation, etc.) will take place, and you have to do something about that.

But I'd really love to be given the opportunity to restore one of those babies ;)

Engines designed to run on leaded fuel need new rings or they will self-destruct.  Lead provided lubricity.


Valve seats are the problem, not rings.
American cars from the early 70s onward are designed to run on unleaded, as its introduction was already planned. For the older ones you can get lead replacement additives.


And some of the older engines don't even need the additive.  Any of the lower compression engines, like the inline six cylinder engines, can run unleaded just fine.

/For example, the 235 Blue Flame
//Like the one in my '54 Bel Air
///Been running Unleaded since the '90s
 
2013-06-26 10:46:18 AM  

Medic Zero: 2wolves: I had an Astre' which was the Vega with AC and a slightly larger engine. Not a bad car.

Did it have the same aluminum engine block as the Vega? Because IIRC, that was one of the biggest problems with that car.


You remember correctly.  In large part due to not having steel piston linings.  They couldn't cool the things fast enough for the amount of friction generated heat.

It would take too long to list what my dad did to solve the problems that car had, but man was it ever fast.
 
2013-06-26 11:00:10 AM  
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2013-06-26 11:02:12 AM  

Medic Zero: 2wolves: I had an Astre' which was the Vega with AC and a slightly larger engine. Not a bad car.

Did it have the same aluminum engine block as the Vega? Because IIRC, that was one of the biggest problems with that car.


The Vega valve stem seals were its real problem. They would get hot and harden. When the engine was off, oil would pool on the stem seals and leak in, fouling the spark plugs.

The Vega had a linerless, etched aluminum cylinder. The Porsche 928 and 944 had a very similar linerless, etched aluminum cylinder. My 944 currently has 302,000 miles with only modest oil consumption. May late (as in deceased) 1974 Vega GT did not make it to 90K before I had to rebuild.
 
2013-06-26 11:14:16 AM  

Fissile: fusillade762: Although even ardent Corvette fans look askance at the late '70s models

They do?
================

Ever drive a late 70s Corvette in stock form?  They sucked, sucked something powerful.


A 1978 Corvette with the base L48 motor was rated at just 185bhp or 220bhp with the optional L82 which also had a measured top speed of just 127mph, pretty good figures compared to, say, a 135bhp Mustang II Cobra, but so very miserly  compared to those of just a few years before. To make things worse, these cars were terribly cold-blooded and had generally awful drivability.

I remember the 70s. They were sad and terrible years for North American cars. Good thing the motorcycles of the era kept things interesting.
 
2013-06-26 11:25:33 AM  
Any 1953 2 door Chevy Nomad Wagons?  No?  Then I don't think I'm interested, thanks.
/yes I'm a weird car-guy.
//also loves flathead engines too, wanna fight about it?
 
2013-06-26 11:52:50 AM  
 
2013-06-26 12:13:21 PM  

SharkaPult: Any 1953 2 door Chevy Nomad Wagons?  No?  Then I don't think I'm interested, thanks.
/yes I'm a weird car-guy.
//also loves flathead engines too, wanna fight about it?


<Pedantic alert>
1955 was the first year of the name Nomad, prior to that they were either called 2-door wagons or deliveries.
</pedantic alert>

To show I'm not always a jerk, have some pron:
www.motortopia.com
 
2013-06-26 01:29:45 PM  
Hey Mike! There's a boatload of vintage cars with less than 10 miles on them, dirt cheap!
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
... they're in Nebraska.
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
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