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(Independent)   That's one habitable super-Earth. Two habitable super-Earths. THREE HABITABLE SUPER-EARTHS Ah, ah, ah   (independent.co.uk) divider line 71
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2013-06-25 11:26:07 PM

doglover: way south: We'd be talking about answers to how life starts, are we alone, what is our place in the universe, etc... A total rewrite of what it means to be human.

I guess if you've got a middle school level of introspection, some of that will be altered slightly in the short term if we found a planet with life on it. But most of those questions already have answers that wouldn't be significantly altered no matter what we found.

The main problem with exoplanets is that they're too far. We can already send people to Mars, we just aren't doing it. We're sitting on the coast in France talking about sailing to the moon when we're not even equipped with boats that can cross the English channel.

Going to Mars and the other Solar planets is a necessary first step to inter-stellar travel. They're working on warp engines. But they've been working on fusion, which has been proven every day without fail forever, for decades now and still diddly squat. There's no guarantee warp will ever work.

You know what will work? A trip to Mars. Do it to have done it and see what we can learn about leaving this rock.




Everything is too far if there is a lack of motivation to go.
Even the moon is too far, and its well within the reach of private space travel.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't go to mars. But there would be alot to learn from a living world within a fifty light year range.
Biological discoveries mean alot for medical understanding. Studying the weather and atmospheric chemistry will help us understand our own environment. Finding a living or past civilization would gain us perspective of our own social structure, even our future. It could also help us learn how safe we are, militarily, from our neighbors.

Right now we know a whole lot of nothing about our surroundings and the lack of alien chatter is worrisome. Discovering so many hot Jupiter's alone has been eye opening but it doesn't tell a full story about how rare life is.
Finding something habitable, even multiple habitable worlds, would create a great desire for an up close look.

You'd be getting to Mars alot sooner if people knew there was another earth a relative stones throw away. Those worlds would make for a tantalizing long term goal.

/at best speed its a journey of a few centuries, but that schedule is based on nuclear technology from the fifties.
/we will do better when science is officially tasked and budgeted with doing better.
 
2013-06-25 11:30:46 PM
Quantum Apostrophe

Out There

You're right, there is no way to get "there," yet.
If we do not find a way we will never get there.
If we don't look for a way, we will never find one.

If you don't think we should even try
to find a way then devote your time to something useful.

And let the rest of us get on with it.
 
2013-06-25 11:34:27 PM

way south: But there would be alot to learn from a living world within a fifty light year range.


There's nothing to learn after you're dead.
 
2013-06-26 12:02:50 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: tinyarena: Before QA gets here, lemme just say how cool this is.

OK, it's cool. We'll never get there, though. We can look at pixels on our computers for as long as we like however.


Yep. This. We can pretend that Warp Drives are right around the corner, but they aren't. Space is farking big. And we aren't that interesting for a reverse visit.
 
2013-06-26 12:48:22 AM

StarshipAngel: QA...oh QA...I know you are a troll, and I'm likely wasting my time giving you this, but, I post infrequently, and I just feel the need to speak.


I wish you people would spell his name out when you get sucked into responding to his monomaniacal rants, so that people like me who already ignore the guy and all respondents can forget he exists.
 
2013-06-26 01:05:57 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: picturescrazy: You missed the point. Thag couldn't swim across the ocean, and his fellow cavemen had no idea that building a ship was even possible. We've already sent people into that vacuum. We know there's something on the other side (in the case of this post, Mars, which we've known about since the time of Thag even if we didn't understand it then), it's just a matter sending someone there to prove we can. And like Thag's friend, who are you to say our descendants can't make the journey. Who are you to say it's impossible. An ocean going ship was unimaginable to Thag. We're already closer than he was.

But we were able to build boats with 14th century technology. They didn't send 5 people on boats then stop, did they? Why? Is it because building boats is possible and sustainable even with 500 year old technology, but sending people in space is ridiculously intensive for no real reward?

We know there's NOTHING on the other side. People went on boats because it was on the SAME PLANET. You went there to get spices , slaves, you name it.

Are you claiming there's something even remotely similar on Mars? It's a dead rock. We KNOW that.

I didn't miss your point because you didn't have one.

My point is that numbers mean things. The scale of space is, well, astronomical, and making fatuous comparisons to things that happened because they COULD happen is complete puerile nonsense, and you know it.

No one's going anywhere. There's no point, except for symbolism.

You can't eat symbolism.

You know no one's going anywhere. It's just you, me and everyone else, here. Forever.


I came in here to point out that subby was f*cking wrong /lied and no habitable planet other than ours has ever been found, but looks like you had this covered. We found glints of reflected light that represent what may be rocks floating in vacuum. That's all.
 
2013-06-26 01:31:40 AM

the opposite of charity is justice: StarshipAngel: QA...oh QA...I know you are a troll, and I'm likely wasting my time giving you this, but, I post infrequently, and I just feel the need to speak.

I so wish Farkers would cut the nonsense of declaring anyone having the audacity to disagree with them must be trolling.  Its beyond simple-minded and egotistical.

I personally disagree with Quantum Apostrophe and his (IMO) rather bleak and pessimistic outlook on the future of space travel.  But none of the information he has provided is false and he has valid critiques.  So yeah, if you would knock it off it would make the place a better community, thanks.


I agree but I'm concerned that you are only encouraging real trolling with your comments.  Probably best to just put those people who call everyone a troll on ignore.
 
2013-06-26 01:42:35 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: Cuz you're such a vital, hairy male with a huge erect penis that you paint white and put NASA decals on it, yes?

You big man, you!

You're just a pathetic middle-aged white male like me, who breaks a sweat going up a flight of stairs, and you think you can live your childhood fantasies by proxy through test pilots in rubber suits.


So, you're fixated on your own inadequacies and project them onto others, while thinking about cocks? Have you considered a career in the priesthood?
 
2013-06-26 02:41:18 AM
So many grey posts with no text. Just stop talking to him FFS
 
2013-06-26 03:10:45 AM
Can we get a Followup next week when these planets are discovered not to actually exist?
 
2013-06-26 03:11:02 AM

the opposite of charity is justice: StarshipAngel: QA...oh QA...I know you are a troll, and I'm likely wasting my time giving you this, but, I post infrequently, and I just feel the need to speak.

I so wish Farkers would cut the nonsense of declaring anyone having the audacity to disagree with them must be trolling.  Its beyond simple-minded and egotistical.

I personally disagree with Quantum Apostrophe and his (IMO) rather bleak and pessimistic outlook on the future of space travel.  But none of the information he has provided is false and he has valid critiques.  So yeah, if you would knock it off it would make the place a better community, thanks.


So, rather than being a troll, QA is just a hateful dumbass. Glad to see you stand up for him. He makes for a worse community here, so I cannot agree with your post. Every technology thread that doesn't involve life extension, he shiats on. He doesn't show up for life extention threads. That sounds trollish to me.
*I agree with QA on certain points, which I explained in the monday thread.
 
2013-06-26 03:14:08 AM

aerojockey: StarshipAngel: QA...oh QA...I know you are a troll, and I'm likely wasting my time giving you this, but, I post infrequently, and I just feel the need to speak.

I wish you people would spell his name out when you get sucked into responding to his monomaniacal rants, so that people like me who already ignore the guy and all respondents can forget he exists.


Maybe you could send us a list of all the people you ignore so it's easier for us to make this a more pleasant online experience for you. Or alternatively, put everyone on ignore just to be safe. We wouldn't want you to accidentally read something you disagree with.
 
2013-06-26 03:24:49 AM
Being in the "green zone" does not mean a planet is habitable. Take the moon as an example. Those "habitable" super-earths could have mercury oceans for all we know.

Of course, the humans that eventually get there will probably be able to modify themselves to the point where they can thrive in whatever environment they end up in.
 
2013-06-26 03:39:08 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: You know no one's going anywhere. It's just you, me and everyone else, here. Forever.


Yes, you're right. No further progress will ever be made, The technology we have now is the only technology we'll ever have. We are at the apex of our species. This is the plateau. All we can look forward to from now on is a long stretch of what we have now followed by the inevitable decline.

...or

We have no way of knowing how our technology will progress and how far it will go. Genetic engineering and 3d printers are two highly disruptive technologies that will turn everything on it's head. I hope I'll live long enough to see the first real impacts, whether they are visibly different post-humans or 3d-printers that can crank out a large portion of the things we need in our daily lives.

Your view of the future is bleak and boring ...and frankly, unrealistic. It assumes that we as a species have suddenly lost the spark that brought us where we are now. You obviously have lost that spark, and I feel sorry for you.

/typed this on my Apple ][e
//printed it on my matrix printer
///posted it in an envelope
////forgot the friggin stamps
 
2013-06-26 07:16:16 AM
I see that our threadshiatter in chief is out in force
 
2013-06-26 07:50:13 AM

doglover: way south: But there would be alot to learn from a living world within a fifty light year range.

There's nothing to learn after you're dead.




Discovery is a process that often takes more than one lifetime.
 
2013-06-26 09:35:44 AM
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2013-06-26 10:32:00 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: doglover: DEMAND NASA send live humans to Mars already.
Yeah!
Why!?



To prove we can, to explore, to study, to understand...wtf is wrong with you?
 
2013-06-26 01:46:44 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: doglover: Quantum Apostrophe: Wanna try that with 100 000 000 kilometers of utter vacuum? With nothing on the other side?

There's pride there, history, and the unknown feel of traipsing on a new body. Only the Apollo people have felt that. It's repugnant that we give such joys to robots because the pentagon needs more bombs so the budget gets cut yet again. fark the pentagon, fark spineless wonders like yourself, and fark science.

We should go to Mars to go to Mars. That's reason enough.

Romance and symbolism and the frontier mythology. Got it. You could use the same arguments for the inside of a volcano...
/robots don't have joy, BTW. Do you know that?


So how's that search for immortality going?
 
2013-06-26 03:05:22 PM

Vash's Apprentice: Quantum Apostrophe: doglover: Quantum Apostrophe: Wanna try that with 100 000 000 kilometers of utter vacuum? With nothing on the other side?

There's pride there, history, and the unknown feel of traipsing on a new body. Only the Apollo people have felt that. It's repugnant that we give such joys to robots because the pentagon needs more bombs so the budget gets cut yet again. fark the pentagon, fark spineless wonders like yourself, and fark science.

We should go to Mars to go to Mars. That's reason enough.

Romance and symbolism and the frontier mythology. Got it. You could use the same arguments for the inside of a volcano...
/robots don't have joy, BTW. Do you know that?

So how's that search for immortality going?


After all, it's only been going on since the first written story. Whar Gilgamesh whar
 
2013-06-27 12:20:45 AM
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