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2013-06-25 04:43:46 PM
Grement explained her daughter likes to eat carrots, raw peppers, and hummus, but when she asked the camp what to do about this menu she was sent on a wild goose chase. Eventually she ended up speaking with the camp nurse, who said Grement could send in whatever food she wanted her daughter to eat and she would store them in the nurse's office. You know, like medication.

Your kid will not die if after running around all day she scarfs down an Oreo, mom.
 
2013-06-25 04:44:56 PM
I like how the headline in TFA has it phrased as a question, as though even they doubt the authenticity of this story.
 
2013-06-25 04:45:18 PM
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2013-06-25 04:47:05 PM
Here's an idea. Don't expect everyone else to cater to your daughter's whim the same way you do. It is truly unreasonable to expect a large or even medium sized camp to cater to every single childs wants.

Also, you can always keep your PLS at home, mom.
 
2013-06-25 04:47:17 PM
 Oreos, Cheeze Curls, Chips Ahoy, Cheese-Its, pretzels and potato chips

These are not snacks, these are treats. While many people may yell 'nanny state' and all, the girl and the mother are correct. The camp shouldn't be serving crap and calling it "snacks are meant to give the kids energy between lunch and dinner, during a busy day of outdoor activities".
 
2013-06-25 04:48:55 PM
I suspect this story will be proven to be a fwd:fwd:fwd:fwd: OMG email with no basis in reality, as is usual.
 
2013-06-25 04:49:06 PM
See, you make one exception...
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2013-06-25 04:49:12 PM
Waffle299, You will find all of those items on the SNACK aisle.
 
2013-06-25 04:49:34 PM
Fruit? What kind of filthy barbarian wants a piece of fruit, plucked from a dirty natural tree? Our great god Nabisco went through all the trouble of providing us with these delicious processed food products, and this is how you repay his generosity? By eating fruit, like a filthy monkey?
 
2013-06-25 04:49:45 PM
Mom needs to chill the fark out... and stfu.

Camp accommodated her request and now she's got her panties all twisted because her snowflakes hummus is being kept in the nurses office.

Seriously lady... stfu.
 
2013-06-25 04:50:14 PM
hummus is fookin GOOD...yum yum

*however*..

I made it a few times and really didnt get it right, it was close to what I'd get from the store, but it was always missing that last little bit of flavor.

Finally I used about 1/2 cup of fresh lemon juice and that worked very well.  So dont forget to do that.  MMM. HUmmusuusus'.
 
2013-06-25 04:51:13 PM
So  a summer camp for gamers.The drink choices are Mountain Dew or Red Bull.
 
2013-06-25 04:52:12 PM
FOR EVERY PROCESSED FOOD PRODUCT YOU DON'T EAT

IMMA EAT THREE
 
2013-06-25 04:53:33 PM
That processed crap will give those kids plenty of energy between meals... until they crash and get cranky in an hour.
It's summer camp. Make them some trail mix FFS.
 
2013-06-25 04:53:38 PM

Bonobo62: Fruit? What kind of filthy barbarian wants a piece of fruit, plucked from a dirty natural tree? Our great god Nabisco went through all the trouble of providing us with these delicious processed food products, and this is how you repay his generosity? By eating fruit, like a filthy monkey?


Comment/name synergy like a baws.
 
2013-06-25 04:53:45 PM
Sure you can have fruits and veggies, as long as they are genetically modified...
 
2013-06-25 04:53:46 PM
All God's chillun got rickets.
 
2013-06-25 04:54:36 PM
Good Lord, what if some evil camp counselor offers her a smores!! That has marshmallow and chocolate, the horrors! Perhaps she can be given some wood shavings and warm water instead....the mom sounds cool though, she'd probably be  great to have a beer with.
 
2013-06-25 04:55:22 PM
Lazy people, lazy country, lazy food, lazy energy, lazy everything.
We're all coasting on as little effort as possible, when we hear about someone doing anything the way it was done fifty years ago we form into a lazy online lynch mob, fortunately too lazy to do anything other than make noise, but it's still a sad sign of how far from our potential we have strayed.
Oreos are not food, they are instant gratification for lazy folk that have poor impulse control.
Fruit and vegetables require effort to snack on, you must keep them fresh, clean them, even prepare them (peel/cut), none of which is attractive to those to lazy and lethargic due to eating piles of crap out of plastic bags with cute names.
I truly believe 90% of us would rather die than eat healthily.
 
2013-06-25 04:55:30 PM

Langdon Alger: a summer camp for gamers.


TFA neglected to provide helpful photo:
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2013-06-25 04:56:16 PM

waffle299: These are not snacks, these are treats.


Exactly. Preferably give the kids stuff that's not only healthy, but gives them energy. Most kids like bananas, apples & oranges. Protein snacks like cheese, peanut butter & hard boiled eggs are all good sources of protein.

Right now the "snacks" they're giving the kids will raise their blood sugar & energy level, but only temporarily. After the brief sugar buzz blood sugar levels drop below what they were before. And what they're giving these kids are essentially empty calories. Most kids get far too many of those on a daily basis.

Protein foods tend to raise the blood sugar and then level out, plus they give a person more energy overall.
 
2013-06-25 04:56:41 PM
It's probably a budget issue.  Fresh fruits and vegetables are more expensive than twinkies and oreos.  It's too bad, in a perfect world actual food would be subsidized, not just corn and corn products.
 
2013-06-25 04:58:30 PM

waffle299: Oreos, Cheeze Curls, Chips Ahoy, Cheese-Its, pretzels and potato chips

These are not snacks, these are treats. While many people may yell 'nanny state' and all, the girl and the mother are correct. The camp shouldn't be serving crap and calling it "snacks are meant to give the kids energy between lunch and dinner, during a busy day of outdoor activities".


Seriously! I admit to not making the wisest decisions food wise but I know that an apple had more return on its caloric investment than a cookie.
 
2013-06-25 04:59:44 PM

Whodat: Waffle299, You will find all of those items on the SNACK aisle.


I can find magazines on the pet food aisle, but I wouldn't feed them to my dog.
 
2013-06-25 04:59:52 PM

waffle299: These are not snacks, these are treats. While many people may yell 'nanny state' and all, the girl and the mother are correct. The camp shouldn't be serving crap and calling it "snacks are meant to give the kids energy between lunch and dinner, during a busy day of outdoor activities


No, these things are "snack food".  In fact most grocery stores, at least in the US, have them labeled as such. Which is why you buy apples in the produce department and not the Snack isle.  The only one saying snacks are meant to give the kids energy between lunch and dinner, during a busy day of outdoor activities is the mother of this precious snowflake.
 
2013-06-25 05:00:10 PM
Fruits that come out of the can aren't especially great, but hey, they're shelf stable.
 
2013-06-25 05:00:40 PM
So a kid is bucking the American trend by wanting to not grow up to be morbidly obese and eating healthy, and the response is to both tell the kid to shut up and eat her HFCS and to mock the mother. Nice. With Obamacare in play, I'd rather not subsidize another diabetic child who will have major obesity related illnesses her entire life. So thanks, crunchmom. You're doing your part however small.
 
2013-06-25 05:01:05 PM
Yeah, fark the Oreos, how hard is it to get some bags of trail mix? You could even buy Monsanto-grown, Nabisco-packaged trail mix if you don't want to look all granola hippy-dippy. Kids actually need something besides simple sugars and carbs when they're out running around.
 
2013-06-25 05:01:23 PM

Bonobo62: Fruit? What kind of filthy barbarian wants a piece of fruit, plucked from a dirty natural tree? Our great god Nabisco went through all the trouble of providing us with these delicious processed food products, and this is how you repay his generosity? By eating fruit, like a filthy monkey?


Do you know how hard those elves work? Slaving away all day in that deathtrap of a bakery/tree just to make you snacks but no, you're too good for them. Kids in Africa would kill for a cookie but you'd rather root around in the mud looking for fruit like a pig.
 
2013-06-25 05:01:25 PM

El Dudereno: That processed crap will give those kids plenty of energy between meals... until they crash and get cranky in an hour.
It's summer camp. Make them some trail mix FFS.


It's summer camp.  Make them forage for nuts and berries.
 
2013-06-25 05:01:51 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: Mom needs to chill the fark out... and stfu.

Camp accommodated her request and now she's got her panties all twisted because her snowflakes hummus is being kept in the nurses office.

Seriously lady... stfu.


the point is that it is crazy that real food is treated like special medications and that anyone who want there kids to eat healthy foods have to say there Children require a "Special Diet"

///also in who world is it a good idea to feed a pack of children a ton of sodium rich food then send them out be outside all day. They are lucky they havent had any kids fallout from heat stroke
 
2013-06-25 05:02:05 PM
Bullshiat lawsuit instigated by parents, 7 o'clock!
 
2013-06-25 05:02:08 PM

optimistic_cynic: The only one saying snacks are meant to give the kids energy between lunch and dinner, during a busy day of outdoor activities is the mother of this precious snowflake.


Then what the hell is snack time for? These kids will be hungrier, crankier and more tired before the day is over.
 
2013-06-25 05:02:19 PM
What did she expect when she sent her kid to Camp General Mills?
 
2013-06-25 05:03:06 PM

optimistic_cynic: No, these things are "snack food". In fact most grocery stores, at least in the US, have them labeled as such. Which is why you buy apples in the produce department and not the Snack isle. The only one saying snacks are meant to give the kids energy between lunch and dinner, during a busy day of outdoor activities is the mother of this precious snowflake.


Your logic here seems to be declaring an apple to not be an appropriate snack food. Are you really saying this, or are you just being imprecise?
 
2013-06-25 05:04:23 PM

KatjaMouse: optimistic_cynic: The only one saying snacks are meant to give the kids energy between lunch and dinner, during a busy day of outdoor activities is the mother of this precious snowflake.

Then what the hell is snack time for? These kids will be hungrier, crankier and more tired before the day is over.


Because they're hungry and like sugary treats, because they're kids.  I'm not sure about you but I don't think about the energy my food provides when eating it.
 
2013-06-25 05:04:30 PM

elffster: hummus is fookin GOOD...yum yum

*however*..

I made it a few times and really didnt get it right, it was close to what I'd get from the store, but it was always missing that last little bit of flavor.

Finally I used about 1/2 cup of fresh lemon juice and that worked very well.  So dont forget to do that.  MMM. HUmmusuusus'.


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This.

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2013-06-25 05:04:44 PM

Anita Bonghit: It's probably a budget issue.  Fresh fruits and vegetables are more expensive than twinkies and oreos.  It's too bad, in a perfect world actual food would be subsidized, not just corn and corn products.


Are you kidding? A bunch of bananas is 2 bucks, tops. Oreos are damn near 4 bucks a package.
 
2013-06-25 05:05:36 PM

YoOjo: Lazy people, lazy country, lazy food, lazy energy, lazy everything.
We're all coasting on as little effort as possible, when we hear about someone doing anything the way it was done fifty years ago we form into a lazy online lynch mob, fortunately too lazy to do anything other than make noise, but it's still a sad sign of how far from our potential we have strayed.
Oreos are not food, they are instant gratification for lazy folk that have poor impulse control.
Fruit and vegetables require effort to snack on, you must keep them fresh, clean them, even prepare them (peel/cut), none of which is attractive to those to lazy and lethargic due to eating piles of crap out of plastic bags with cute names.
I truly believe 90% of us would rather die than eat healthily.


My own experience with friends, family, and coworkers would tend to support your rectally-extracted 90% number.
I actually had one person tell me they would rather die than quit eating junk food. Are hostess snack cakes laced with heroin or something?
 
2013-06-25 05:06:14 PM

theorellior: optimistic_cynic: No, these things are "snack food". In fact most grocery stores, at least in the US, have them labeled as such. Which is why you buy apples in the produce department and not the Snack isle. The only one saying snacks are meant to give the kids energy between lunch and dinner, during a busy day of outdoor activities is the mother of this precious snowflake.

Your logic here seems to be declaring an apple to not be an appropriate snack food. Are you really saying this, or are you just being imprecise?


No, it certainly is an appropriate and healthy food for in between meals. But when I think of snack foods I think chips, flavored crackers, granola bars, like they're labeled in a store.
 
2013-06-25 05:06:33 PM

optimistic_cynic: Because they're hungry and like sugary treats, because they're kids. I'm not sure about you but I don't think about the energy my food provides when eating it.


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2013-06-25 05:07:17 PM
Perhaps she has to go to the nurse's office because the nurse has a refrigerator?  Cookies, chips, etc don't need to be kept cool, but I wouldn't want veggies that had been out in the heat and the sun for several hours before snack time.  It's probably likely to be the only place continuously staffed, so less likely that some fat, hungry little bastard will raid the "special" foods...
 
2013-06-25 05:07:40 PM

optimistic_cynic: KatjaMouse: optimistic_cynic: The only one saying snacks are meant to give the kids energy between lunch and dinner, during a busy day of outdoor activities is the mother of this precious snowflake.

Then what the hell is snack time for? These kids will be hungrier, crankier and more tired before the day is over.

Because they're hungry and like sugary treats, because they're kids.  I'm not sure about you but I don't think about the energy my food provides when eating it.


And it's grownups who buy the snacks. They should be the ones thinking about energy conversion right off the bat. When I went to summer camp french fry day, which was in the last week of camp, was a big deal. And they got them catered from Boardwalk Fries which made it even more awesome and special. Every other day? Oranges, apples, bananas and trail mix.
 
2013-06-25 05:07:56 PM

optimistic_cynic: No, these things are "snack food".


For kids with negligent parents.
 
2013-06-25 05:08:14 PM

theorellior: optimistic_cynic: Because they're hungry and like sugary treats, because they're kids. I'm not sure about you but I don't think about the energy my food provides when eating it.

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Seriously.  Do you honestly think, boy the protein in this steak is going to make me strong and give me energy?  I normally think about how good it taste and how much it's going to solve my hunger.  I could be alone in this.
 
2013-06-25 05:09:03 PM
My initial thought:  "One would think that if your kid has a special diet you would investigate to see what the camp offers before you enroll and send them there."

My ultimate thought:  "When in the hell did a piece of fruit become a special dietary item?"
 
2013-06-25 05:09:20 PM

BarkingUnicorn: El Dudereno: That processed crap will give those kids plenty of energy between meals... until they crash and get cranky in an hour.
It's summer camp. Make them some trail mix FFS.

It's summer camp.  Make them forage for nuts and berries.


*ralphwiggum*It tastes like... burning.*/ralphwiggum*
 
2013-06-25 05:10:14 PM
She is the founder of the program First Bites,

What's the over/under on "she picked this summer camp because someone else had the same problem last summer"

Although I do fully agree with her.
 
2013-06-25 05:10:32 PM
Simple solution.  Don't send your kid to a camp that disagrees with their diet.

Also, gluten free != healthy.
 
2013-06-25 05:11:05 PM

optimistic_cynic: Seriously. Do you honestly think, boy the protein in this steak is going to make me strong and give me energy? I normally think about how good it taste and how much it's going to solve my hunger. I could be alone in this.


I think the disconnect here is that you can make whatever choices you want to feed yourself. With children you're actually supposed to do their nutritional thinking for them, or they'd eat nothing but Skittles and hotdogs. So maybe it would be best for a summer camp to hand out some apples rather than Cheez-Kurlz.
 
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