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2013-06-25 02:11:09 PM  
6 votes:
What an annoying goddam website that was.
2013-06-25 02:24:53 PM  
4 votes:
Learn from the rejection letters, if possible. And realize that maybe you're better off not working for the company that kicks you to the curb.
2013-06-25 02:02:18 PM  
4 votes:
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2013-06-25 03:38:18 PM  
3 votes:

Lord Dimwit: I remember turning down an interview from *large unnamed computer sciencey company, but you'd guess which one in two guesses* because they wouldn't tell me what the salary range was for the job they were interviewing me for that would require me and my family to relocate from Austin to NYC.


Somewhere along the line, it became gauche to admit that we work to earn money. Employers seem to really believe that I am supposed to be deeply passionate about shuffling papers and meaningless busywork, and that the pay should only matter as a means to facilitate my dream of shuffling more paper. If you ask about the pay too soon, that earmarks you as someone who cares more about yourself than you do about the company and your "team."

Of course that's true, but you can't say it in 2013.

The white collar world is just pure, unadulterated nonsense these days. Pure. Nonsense.
2013-06-25 02:24:20 PM  
3 votes:
Honestly HR people are the used car salesmen of the corporate world.. I have yet to meet one that was genuinely nice or competent.

/I'm not some new kid on the street either. I have had a continual employment since 1992, with the exception of 6 weeks when I was laid off this January
2013-06-25 05:01:46 PM  
2 votes:
My cousin got a pretty long and personal rejection from a huge company that probably hosts your personal email.
It was very detailed, yet respectful and had some very good constructive criticism.

He rebutted it back, line for line.

They sent him a pretty generous offer.
2013-06-25 03:30:23 PM  
2 votes:
I love the illegal questions that I, as a woman, am often asked - about kids, marital status, etc.  Sometimes they couch it so that it sounds innocuous, but asking "Does your husband [I'm single, but they didn't know that yet] have health insurance that would cover you? Because we would love to hire you at the salary you're asking for, but we can't afford the benefits you want" is against the law.

And these are LAW FIRMS that do this.  Sigh.
2013-06-25 02:19:02 PM  
2 votes:
Cute, charming, very good art, sufficient variety, definitely enjoyed reading, got a chuckle watching... yeah, take that, high-school-student Tim Burton.
2013-06-25 02:16:33 PM  
2 votes:

smoky2010: I was rejected at a job interview by the HR manager because I asked what the salary was for the position. I was told that the hiring manager couldn't give it out and HR had to.
I was told I would meet with 4 managers and expect to be there for at least 3 hours. I was kicked out after 20 minutes.


I suppose it's a minor faux pas to inquire about salary before you've run the manager interview gauntlet, but it's at least as much a faux pas for a company to invite a candidate to a multi-hour onsite interview without first having broached the subject of pay range during a phone screening.  If those expectations don't line up at all, the rest of the process is a waste of time.

And apparently it was.
2013-06-25 02:15:15 PM  
2 votes:
It could be worse.

"He asked if he could call me Becky as he noticed my moonblood had seeped through my tampon and stained the back of my skirt, forming a bullseye. he kept muttering to himself: Becky Bullseye. In retrospect, this was probably red flag No. 1. But I was 22 and hadn't had too many job interviews, so I thought it seemed reasonable."
2013-06-25 02:13:34 PM  
2 votes:

hstein3: These days, you're more likely to just get automated messages from the company's hiring website that you used to apply.  Did a human ever see your application?  Good question.  Best of luck to you trying to get any feedback on the rejection, too.


Indeed. I'd rather get any one of these Rejection letters than for my application to dissapear into the aether, which is what usually seems to happen.
2013-06-25 02:12:44 PM  
2 votes:

hstein3: These days, you're more likely to just get automated messages from the company's hiring website that you used to apply.


I remember back in the days when you used to get automated messages.
2013-06-25 02:07:45 PM  
2 votes:
These days, you're more likely to just get automated messages from the company's hiring website that you used to apply.  Did a human ever see your application?  Good question.  Best of luck to you trying to get any feedback on the rejection, too.
2013-06-26 03:25:22 AM  
1 votes:
Brutally honest rejection letters?  More like brutally asshole ego-tripping.
2013-06-25 06:33:38 PM  
1 votes:
I'm proud to see LSU represented.
2013-06-25 04:35:33 PM  
1 votes:
CheetahOlivetti:

I quit after the second year. All the teachers at that school were either drunk all the time or having affairs. Or both.

It has been my experience that this is all teacher, all the time.  They never leave an academic environment, and this is the end result.
2013-06-25 04:19:14 PM  
1 votes:
As someone currently looking for a job (I'm getting laid off on Friday), I'm getting a kick out of this thread. I'm starting to get antsy for a couple of places who have changed the status of my applications from "received" to "eligible" and "qualified, referred" respectively to at least call me to set up a phone interview.
2013-06-25 04:05:27 PM  
1 votes:

Amidala: d23: poot_rootbeer: hstein3: These days, you're more likely to just get automated messages from the company's hiring website that you used to apply.

I remember back in the days when you used to get automated messages.

When looking for my current job I had an interview with a pharmaceutical chain that is identified by three letters (the same three letters that also represent the name of an open source versioning server).  I had to travel 60 minutes away for an interview that was for a job in the town in which I lived.  So I spent a good deal of money and time to interview for their job... but they couldn't even be bothered to send me a message when they rejected me.  I think it's rather rude to not send a polite rejection to anyone that interviews (that's a step back where the polite thing to do was to send a note to anyone that applied), but when I think someone has taken that time, spent money on gas to interview for a LOCAL job, etc., I think it's beyond the pale to not send a polite rejection.

Of course we're in the corporate era and corporatism is often the system of values these HR people live under, so you'll hear whines from them about how that is wasting the company's time.  I think it's a sign of someone you don't want to work for.

I hate Git pharmacy. If you called around asking about the price of any item they sold, every store would give you a different price. I wish they would have a centralized system to store the prices so each store would not have their own prices.


Yeah, but HR policies are so mercurial, it's bazaar. I'd imagine the employees at some of the worst offenders are actively planning subversion. The employees already have very little, and bit by bit keepers like management take more and more of the pie.
2013-06-25 04:00:03 PM  
1 votes:
This is actually a really good rejection letter.   It's not rude, and it explains why the editor rejected it.  That the guy took the time to try to help the author improve is a good thing.

I have a stack of rejection letters from a bunch of magazines and a couple of them had personal comments like this.  I loved 'em, each and every one.

static4.businessinsider.com
2013-06-25 03:56:40 PM  
1 votes:

Amidala: d23: poot_rootbeer: hstein3: These days, you're more likely to just get automated messages from the company's hiring website that you used to apply.

I remember back in the days when you used to get automated messages.

When looking for my current job I had an interview with a pharmaceutical chain that is identified by three letters (the same three letters that also represent the name of an open source versioning server).  I had to travel 60 minutes away for an interview that was for a job in the town in which I lived.  So I spent a good deal of money and time to interview for their job... but they couldn't even be bothered to send me a message when they rejected me.  I think it's rather rude to not send a polite rejection to anyone that interviews (that's a step back where the polite thing to do was to send a note to anyone that applied), but when I think someone has taken that time, spent money on gas to interview for a LOCAL job, etc., I think it's beyond the pale to not send a polite rejection.

Of course we're in the corporate era and corporatism is often the system of values these HR people live under, so you'll hear whines from them about how that is wasting the company's time.  I think it's a sign of someone you don't want to work for.

I hate Git pharmacy. If you called around asking about the price of any item they sold, every store would give you a different price. I wish they would have a centralized system to store the prices so each store would not have their own prices.


you think Git is bad? Try SVN! i called a bunch of their stores looking for a prescription and each gave me a different version of the same story!

/And Don't get me started on VSS
2013-06-25 03:46:34 PM  
1 votes:

d23: poot_rootbeer: hstein3: These days, you're more likely to just get automated messages from the company's hiring website that you used to apply.

I remember back in the days when you used to get automated messages.

When looking for my current job I had an interview with a pharmaceutical chain that is identified by three letters (the same three letters that also represent the name of an open source versioning server).  I had to travel 60 minutes away for an interview that was for a job in the town in which I lived.  So I spent a good deal of money and time to interview for their job... but they couldn't even be bothered to send me a message when they rejected me.  I think it's rather rude to not send a polite rejection to anyone that interviews (that's a step back where the polite thing to do was to send a note to anyone that applied), but when I think someone has taken that time, spent money on gas to interview for a LOCAL job, etc., I think it's beyond the pale to not send a polite rejection.

Of course we're in the corporate era and corporatism is often the system of values these HR people live under, so you'll hear whines from them about how that is wasting the company's time.  I think it's a sign of someone you don't want to work for.


I hate Git pharmacy. If you called around asking about the price of any item they sold, every store would give you a different price. I wish they would have a centralized system to store the prices so each store would not have their own prices.
2013-06-25 03:15:02 PM  
1 votes:

Lord Dimwit: poot_rootbeer: smoky2010: I was rejected at a job interview by the HR manager because I asked what the salary was for the position. I was told that the hiring manager couldn't give it out and HR had to.
I was told I would meet with 4 managers and expect to be there for at least 3 hours. I was kicked out after 20 minutes.

I suppose it's a minor faux pas to inquire about salary before you've run the manager interview gauntlet, but it's at least as much a faux pas for a company to invite a candidate to a multi-hour onsite interview without first having broached the subject of pay range during a phone screening.  If those expectations don't line up at all, the rest of the process is a waste of time.

And apparently it was.

I remember turning down an interview from *large unnamed computer sciencey company, but you'd guess which one in two guesses* because they wouldn't tell me what the salary range was for the job they were interviewing me for that would require me and my family to relocate from Austin to NYC. They wanted to fly me out with an overnight stay for an all-day interview, missing 2.5 days of work at my current job, and consider moving my wife and toddler away from our relatives across the country to a city with a much (MUCH) higher cost of living, but wouldn't even tell me if the salary was higher than what I'm making now. Seemed kinda rude. I got the impression that they thought "you have a chance to interview with us, and we're so awesome you should just want to work here for free!"


When I finally got the salary it was about $35k a year for an IT management position. I laughed at her. I figured I didn't have anything to lose.
2013-06-25 03:14:31 PM  
1 votes:
From the other side of the fence:

My department was in dire need of a Unix sysadmin. Requirements were very exact, we had some unusual configurations and flavors of Unix. We found the perfect fit, guy with 7 years experience in exactly the same skillset, and his salary requirements were in line with what we were offering. I told HR to definitely make this guy an offer.

He turned us down.

I called the guy and asked him why, since it was win/win for both of us. "Your HR department wanted to see my college grades....not proof that I graduated 7 years ago, they wanted my grades. I don't need that kind of hassle. Sorry."

I asked HR what the hell were they doing, we'd never asked for grades before, even folks fresh out of college. "Well....he looked a little "different". We felt it'd be prudent to give him a little extra scrutiny. He doesn't look like our company's "type"...
2013-06-25 03:06:14 PM  
1 votes:
Also, most of those rejection letters were actually quite nice in the grand scheme of things. They told the interviewee what they needed to improve on. The Sub Pop one was shockingly rude, of course, but that was the point.
2013-06-25 03:05:16 PM  
1 votes:
Dear applicant,

tl;dr
2013-06-25 03:03:03 PM  
1 votes:

poot_rootbeer: smoky2010: I was rejected at a job interview by the HR manager because I asked what the salary was for the position. I was told that the hiring manager couldn't give it out and HR had to.
I was told I would meet with 4 managers and expect to be there for at least 3 hours. I was kicked out after 20 minutes.

I suppose it's a minor faux pas to inquire about salary before you've run the manager interview gauntlet, but it's at least as much a faux pas for a company to invite a candidate to a multi-hour onsite interview without first having broached the subject of pay range during a phone screening.  If those expectations don't line up at all, the rest of the process is a waste of time.

And apparently it was.


I remember turning down an interview from *large unnamed computer sciencey company, but you'd guess which one in two guesses* because they wouldn't tell me what the salary range was for the job they were interviewing me for that would require me and my family to relocate from Austin to NYC. They wanted to fly me out with an overnight stay for an all-day interview, missing 2.5 days of work at my current job, and consider moving my wife and toddler away from our relatives across the country to a city with a much (MUCH) higher cost of living, but wouldn't even tell me if the salary was higher than what I'm making now. Seemed kinda rude. I got the impression that they thought "you have a chance to interview with us, and we're so awesome you should just want to work here for free!"
2013-06-25 03:00:24 PM  
1 votes:
Big tits? You're hired
2013-06-25 02:54:06 PM  
1 votes:

smoky2010: I was rejected at a job interview by the HR manager because I asked what the salary was for the position. I was told that the hiring manager couldn't give it out and HR had to.
I was told I would meet with 4 managers and expect to be there for at least 3 hours. I was kicked out after 20 minutes.


Asking about the salary range is not wrong.  If the salary is dependent on the applicant's experience and negotiable the employer should still be able to give a range or at the very minimum explain that it is to be determined in negotiations.  In my opinion if I am interviewing someone I would be more wary of applicants who don't ask than I would be of those who do, unless it's stated in the advertisement.

It's kind of important information.
2013-06-25 02:51:10 PM  
1 votes:
csb time.

I once had a good interview and was told they'd get back to me as there were a couple folks left to meet with.  I walked out of the president's office and told the receptionist I was making copies of my SS card and DL for the pres.  This, as a part of my plan to will myself in to a job by behaving and speaking politely, but also as if I already worked at the places I was interviewing.

The pres came out and asked what i was doing at the copy machine. I begged his pardon and more or less told him the above. He hired me on the spot.

Willing things to happen through action has it's merit.

ymmv
2013-06-25 02:35:47 PM  
1 votes:
I was in the final round of a month-long seesion of interviews seated before three representatives of the company.  (Some TV ratings company who share the last name from the actor who played the Dad in "Poltergesit".)

Simply stated, I had become somewhat tired of the process.  When asked "Why do you think you would be a good fit for this position?" by the regional manager, I responded, "Shouldn't that be what you are here to determine?  I can tell you why 'I' think I am a good fit for the job but I am not the one making the hiring decision here."

The other two tried to hide their smiles as the regional manager took affront to my answer.  Suffice to say, I did not get the position.

/fun is going to a job interview where you do not want or need to job
2013-06-25 02:35:24 PM  
1 votes:
Herbert A. Millington
Chair - Search Committee
412A Clarkson Hall,
Whitson University
College Hill, MA 34109

Dear Professor Millington,

Thank you for your letter of March 16. After careful consideration, I
regret to inform you that I am unable to accept your refusal to offer me
an assistant professor position in your department.

This year I have been particularly fortunate in receiving an unusually
large number of rejection letters. With such a varied and promising field
of candidates, it is impossible for me to accept all refusals.

Despite Whitson's outstanding qualifications and previous experience in
rejecting applicants, I find that your rejection does not meet my needs at
this time. Therefore, I will assume the position of assistant professor
in your department this August. I look forward to seeing you then.

Best of luck in rejecting future applicants.

Sincerely,Chris L. Jensen
2013-06-25 02:34:29 PM  
1 votes:

smoky2010: Honestly HR people are the used car salesmen of the corporate world.. I have yet to meet one that was genuinely nice or competent.


I used to work with a woman who was an executive assistant, and a very good one too. She was always on top of things and her annual reports were some of the best I've seen. She ended up being a single mother after her husband croaked of cancer, so she applied for the HR job in our department so she wouldn't have to travel so much.

And, I swear to the FSM, she promptly became one of the slackest losers I've ever known. She was always late with our pre-tax medical account payments, she screwed up the vacation schedule so badly that people actually lost days they had accrued, and when I left that job her incompetence cost me $1,200 when she miscalculated a benefit I had earned.

So I guess the question is whether idiots choose HR, or does HR make normal people into idiots?
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-25 02:33:21 PM  
1 votes:

smoky2010: I had asked if I was going to cycle back to HR and she said that she was leaving for the day and I would not. I had completed the HR portion off the interview. I think it was in poor taste, I had driven over an hour to the interview to. Jerks!


I had another interview once for a local place that was set up by an contracting agency.  I was on time, I filled out their form and their stupid test, and then they said they weren't going to interview me today and I would have to come back.

I didn't go back and I never talked to that contracting agency again.

Seriously... you have to remember that it's a two way street.  If they don't treat you politely in the interview process then you shouldn't work for them.
2013-06-25 02:29:40 PM  
1 votes:
I've been on four interviews in the past month or so, all very promising. In fact, each interview lasted longer than scheduled when they started asking about extra examples - which, luckily, I had online.

Two I never heard back from, not even a "fark you."

Of the other two, one said they "had to hire more diversity" and the other (as reported by a friend of a friend on the committee) had the committee's unanimous vote for me overturned by a company officer and instead they were told to hire someone who was more "politically correct" - whatever that means.

So, I thought that, at least, they considered me cool enough to tell me the truth. But in the case of both jobs, it was a white middle-aged male who made decision to pass me over in the name of "diversity" so I wanted to call them up and ask when they were stepping aside to let someone who was "politically correct" have a chance.

/another interview on Thursday morning
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-25 02:19:57 PM  
1 votes:

poot_rootbeer: hstein3: These days, you're more likely to just get automated messages from the company's hiring website that you used to apply.

I remember back in the days when you used to get automated messages.


When looking for my current job I had an interview with a pharmaceutical chain that is identified by three letters (the same three letters that also represent the name of an open source versioning server).  I had to travel 60 minutes away for an interview that was for a job in the town in which I lived.  So I spent a good deal of money and time to interview for their job... but they couldn't even be bothered to send me a message when they rejected me.  I think it's rather rude to not send a polite rejection to anyone that interviews (that's a step back where the polite thing to do was to send a note to anyone that applied), but when I think someone has taken that time, spent money on gas to interview for a LOCAL job, etc., I think it's beyond the pale to not send a polite rejection.

Of course we're in the corporate era and corporatism is often the system of values these HR people live under, so you'll hear whines from them about how that is wasting the company's time.  I think it's a sign of someone you don't want to work for.
2013-06-25 02:19:10 PM  
1 votes:
Dear John,George,Paul and Pete,

 We at Decca find your Merseybeat sound interesting,but frankly groups with guitars are shall we say "passe".
Perhaps you should try something like French Horns and pianos.

All the best,

Dick Rowe
2013-06-25 02:15:48 PM  
1 votes:
CSB time!!!

I've done some freelance writing over my lifetime, and heard about a magazine called The Luddite (I think?), that was directed towards, obviously, luddites. As soon as I saw that, I remembered that there was a blurb about how the Mennonites in Phoenix were struggling with maintaining their non-modern existence in light of changing times, particularly with their children. So, I had the idea to pitch a story to The Luddite about this struggle.

I received a rejection letter about a month letter...handwritten...on 3-ring binder notebook paper...full of misspellings and grammar errors. The big thing I most remember is how offended the editor was and how insulting he was to me about the fact that I wrote my pitch...on a computer. All kinds of stuff about "You obviously have never read our magazine or even taken the time to look up what a luddite is". He took the time to point out a grammatical error in my proposal (which, according to me and Elements of Style it was not) and tried to point out that I needed an apostrophe in "its" when discussing the possessive form. It was that bad and awesome.

I'm pretty sure I still have that at home...I may need to frame it.
2013-06-25 02:12:18 PM  
1 votes:
I was rejected at a job interview by the HR manager because I asked what the salary was for the position. I was told that the hiring manager couldn't give it out and HR had to.
I was told I would meet with 4 managers and expect to be there for at least 3 hours. I was kicked out after 20 minutes.
 
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