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2013-06-25 12:21:43 PM
The most American of activities: kicking someone when they're down. Not saying I agree with anything she's said or done, but not piling on.
 
2013-06-25 12:27:41 PM
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2013-06-25 12:30:21 PM
I don't own a TV and I'm not sure who she is, but that comment about her great grand father was interesting.

The way I see it, he is pretty lucky he had the liberty to shoot himself in his own barn after all his slaves left. I can't begin to fathom the pain, frustration, and anger that slavery engendered, but I am sure the old timer was lucky they just left.
 
2013-06-25 12:38:45 PM
It's 2013--when the hell is everyone going to just stop talking about race?  Maybe I'm naive, but who really gives a shiat these days?

Do well to your family and neighbors and stop acting like color matters.
 
2013-06-25 12:40:38 PM
I'm calling bullshiat.     We've already seen how this lady fetishizes The South, and there's nothing they love to do more than swap hardship stories of the Reconstruction.

I've spent time in Vietnam, and they don't spend a fraction of the time self pitying their hardships from a  war that ended 35 years ago as the American South do wallowing in a war that happened 150 years ago (and they're still still feeling the daily legacy of Agent Orange and undetonated ordinance).
 
2013-06-25 12:41:37 PM

Crewmannumber6: The most American of activities: kicking someone when they're down. Not saying I agree with anything she's said or done, but not

piling on.

I'm wondering if I saw what you did there.
 
2013-06-25 12:42:46 PM

InmanRoshi: I'm calling bullshiat.     We've already seen how this lady fetishizes The South, and there's nothing they love to do more than swap hardship stories of the Reconstruction.

I've spent time in Vietnam, and they don't spend a fraction of the time self pitying their hardships from a  war that ended 35 years ago as the American South do wallowing in a war that happened 150 years ago (and they're still still feeling the daily legacy of Agent Orange and undetonated ordinance).


I wasn't aware we used Agent Orange in the Civil War.

/I know we didn't but your phrasing makes it seem we did and so thanks for the LOL
 
2013-06-25 12:49:50 PM

fickenchucker: It's 2013--when the hell is everyone going to just stop talking about race?  Maybe I'm naive, but who really gives a shiat these days?

Do well to your family and neighbors and stop acting like color matters.


just search on 'public shaming' and you'll see how quickly that race is an issue, slant eyes, black skin, indian, dot or feather, tons of people spew hate based on those criteria.

mix in a gay, short person, fat person, you got a massive ball of hate of different.
 
2013-06-25 12:50:36 PM
My mother swears she went to school with her in Albany.  I've no idea if it's true or not.  However, my mother can't stand her.  If you turn any of Paula's show on, you have to talk mom down from kicking the TV over.
 
2013-06-25 12:51:24 PM

fickenchucker: It's 2013--when the hell is everyone going to just stop talking about race?  Maybe I'm naive, but who really gives a shiat these days?

Do well to your family and neighbors and stop acting like color matters.


Who gives a shiat? People who don't like what you like, that's who.

/I dont give a shiat either.
 
2013-06-25 12:52:33 PM

tboucher: fickenchucker: It's 2013--when the hell is everyone going to just stop talking about race?  Maybe I'm naive, but who really gives a shiat these days?

Do well to your family and neighbors and stop acting like color matters.

just search on 'public shaming' and you'll see how quickly that race is an issue, slant eyes, black skin, indian, dot or feather, tons of people spew hate based on those criteria.

mix in a gay, short person, fat person, you got a massive ball of hate of different.


Or, you could just venture over one tab to the left.
 
2013-06-25 12:52:47 PM
Somewhere out there Anthony Bourdain is having another cup of smug at the downfall of Paula Deen although he probably would've wanted her to fail because of the food that she was serving as oppose to her personal beliefs and acts on race relations.
 
2013-06-25 12:53:31 PM

fickenchucker: It's 2013--when the hell is everyone going to just stop talking about race?  Maybe I'm naive, but who really gives a shiat these days?

Do well to your family and neighbors and stop acting like color matters.


Let's try pretending rape doesn't happen and see if rapists stop raping.
 
2013-06-25 12:54:01 PM

toetag: My mother swears she went to school with her in Albany.  I've no idea if it's true or not.  However, my mother can't stand her.  If you turn any of Paula's show on, you have to talk mom down from kicking the TV over.


I had to check her bio. She was born in Albany, Ga.

I was thinking you meant Albany, NY, and wanted to know how insane your mom is.
 
2013-06-25 12:57:48 PM

tboucher: fickenchucker: It's 2013--when the hell is everyone going to just stop talking about race?  Maybe I'm naive, but who really gives a shiat these days?

Do well to your family and neighbors and stop acting like color matters.

just search on 'public shaming' and you'll see how quickly that race is an issue, slant eyes, black skin, indian, dot or feather, tons of people spew hate based on those criteria.

mix in a gay, short person, fat person, you got a massive ball of hate of different.


I guess my parents did a good job, then.  I think a lot of what other people like is weird and nothing I would participate in, but it's not my place to be mean to them.  And vice-versa--I'm just as weird to other people.

Life's too short to walk around making other's lives difficult.  Maybe those crazy WBC weirdos should just take up woodworking as a hobby, since they seem to have so much time on their hands.
 
2013-06-25 01:00:54 PM
60 year old white southern woman is racist?

I AM SHOCKED.

SHOCKED I SAY.
 
2013-06-25 01:03:48 PM
white trash problems.
 
2013-06-25 01:12:09 PM

rufus-t-firefly: fickenchucker: It's 2013--when the hell is everyone going to just stop talking about race?  Maybe I'm naive, but who really gives a shiat these days?

Do well to your family and neighbors and stop acting like color matters.

Let's try pretending rape doesn't happen and see if rapists stop raping.



You're missing the point.  I was just howling in the wind of why idiots bother going out of their way to be annoying to those who are different.  Time is better spent concentrating on yourself, family, and friends.
 
2013-06-25 01:24:11 PM
The only thing I have to add is that whenever someone says "intrical" when they mean "integral," I want to punch them in the throat.

"Intrical" is not a farking word, you illiterate old biddy!
 
2013-06-25 01:24:41 PM
So her great grand pappy bought his way out of the fighting, then killed himself when he found out he had to work? No wonder she's so uppity.
/ It's a wonder that this woman didn't go into politics instead of cooking.
 
2013-06-25 01:37:10 PM
Obligatory for every Paula Deen thread. (Also, PAULA DEEN THREAD!)

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Shamelessly stolen from andyourdog2 from that other PD thread.
 
2013-06-25 01:39:27 PM

InmanRoshi: I'm calling bullshiat.     We've already seen how this lady fetishizes The South, and there's nothing they love to do more than swap hardship stories of the Reconstruction.

I've spent time in Vietnam, and they don't spend a fraction of the time self pitying their hardships from a  war that ended 35 years ago as the American South do wallowing in a war that happened 150 years ago (and they're still still feeling the daily legacy of Agent Orange and undetonated ordinance).


You forget that there are some who believe the Civil War never ended, but is only on pause.
 
2013-06-25 01:51:05 PM
I'm sure Hollis was thrilled to be told that he couldn't be seen if he stood against a dark background.

I can see why her employees might be suing her.
 
2013-06-25 01:53:13 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: I'm sure Hollis was thrilled to be told that he couldn't be seen if he stood against a dark background.

I can see why her employees might be suing her.


She's not racist, some of her best employees are black!

I was so embarrassed for the guy.
 
2013-06-25 02:07:07 PM
"come on out here, hollis - we can't see you against that blackboard."

holy shiat - she's telling racist dean martin jokes from 1966.
 
2013-06-25 02:12:24 PM
I'm not going to buy the "old people can't learn to not be racist" argument.  In college, I visited a friend's grandmother who was a concentration camp survivor.  Weirdly, she was one of the most anti-black people I knew.  Like "blame it all on the blacks" racist.  But then my friend got knocked up- by a black guy.  Once the child arrived sporting skin that was a nice shade of mocha and a thick head of kinky hair, racist grandma did a 180-degree about face.  Black boyfriend could do no wrong (except not be Jewish, but even that was forgiven for being the father of the next generation).  Black people were no longer the source of all that was wrong with the world.  She even held a seder in the boyfriend's (Baptist!!!) church's fellowship hall.

Whether or not Paula Deen has had a similar "Saul on the Road to Damascus" moment, I can't say.  But don't tell me old folks can't learn to be better people.  I've seen it happen.
 
2013-06-25 02:16:32 PM

rufus-t-firefly: fickenchucker: It's 2013--when the hell is everyone going to just stop talking about race?  Maybe I'm naive, but who really gives a shiat these days?

Do well to your family and neighbors and stop acting like color matters.

Let's try pretending rape doesn't happen and see if rapists stop raping.


Wow.  That was dumb.
 
2013-06-25 02:17:04 PM
Look, at some point in their lives, EVERYBODY has used a racial slur. Including Blacks.

That's the way the cookie crumbles and there just aint much anyone can friggin' do about it.

Raised in the 50's and 60's, I certainly knew and used racial slurs and I also knew of black folks using racial slurs against whites. Then again, we had racial slurs for every race, including my own.

In my day, we mainly had white trash. You should have heard what they were called, but that's different because their skin was white. Now we throw about the term 'Trailer Park Trash' like it's a common denominator and no one goes all ballistic and starts suing right and left or publicly harassing and damning the one who said it.

Man! Back in the early part of the 1900's, you'd find insulting names for the Irish, The Poles, The Italians, The Chinese, Northerners, Southerners and everyone else.

Most folks over 50 have used racial slurs in their lives because they were born during a time when such a thing was common and just was.

People born in the deep south have a list of names for white people born in the North -- the majority insulting on some level -- but no one gives a shiat. Hop on over to Texas and listen to the assorted names for Mexican Illegals and even the Legals.

Drop in on a couple of random Indian Reservations and find out what they call the white man behind his back.

However, since these racial slurs concern the African/American race, they're 'evil' and 'despicable' and the utterer is just one step above a sex offender!

Grow the freak up! So long as we have different races there's going to be racial insults. If not racial insults, then religious ones. If not those, then insults concerning the country someone was born in or the language they speak. (I, personally, despise the dialect commonly used in New Orleans. I aint real happy with the true, Bostonian one either. Then there's one area where folks like to say 'ay-yuh' a lot and if you've ever been to Minnesota for any length of time, the common dialect there can set your teeth on edge.)

What Paula Deen did is no worse than most other folks and certainly not worth making a huge shiat-storm in the media about it.

Besides, the Civil War wasn't that long ago. Plus, every documentary channel on TV just has to produce lengthy historical episodes on it. Collectors pay ridiculous amounts for rusty Civil War scrap and there are the yearly reenactments -- with some enthusiasts copying the time right down to home spun uniforms and not bathing for a week or two to get that authentic smell of a front line soldier.

I don't think any other nation has such reenactments concerning any civil war they went through. Vietnam has turned it's war into a tourist attraction, where fat Americans get stuck in the mouths of the tunnels they were famous for.

Yeah. racial slurs are inappropriate, but unless the one using them is an absolute fanatic and died-in-the-wool racist, there's no freakin' reason to turn it into a media circus, blowing it so out of proportion that it nearly becomes unrecognizable.
 
2013-06-25 02:19:08 PM
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Racist?
 
2013-06-25 02:19:22 PM
the south is less racist cause the black were part of the family?

hahahahaha
notsureifserious


sure i beat my family everyday and make the pick a bail of cotton


ohh lawdy pick a bail of hay.....
 
2013-06-25 02:22:52 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: I'm sure Hollis was thrilled to be told that he couldn't be seen if he stood against a dark background.

I can see why her employees might be suing her.


Did anyone ask him if that statement bothered him?

Paula Deen is getting a raw deel.

I wonder why no one answers this question (I've posted in a number of these threads) - who among us has never said anything that could be deemed discriminatory or prejudiced (even in a bad attempt at humor)?

/listen - you can hear crickets chirping...
 
2013-06-25 02:26:07 PM

Rik01: I certainly knew and used racial slurs and I also knew of black folks using racial slurs against whites.


not quite equal, though, is it? considering that "black folks" were subject to a couple of hundred years of slavery and oppression by whites.
 
2013-06-25 02:27:34 PM

Truther: Philip Francis Queeg: I'm sure Hollis was thrilled to be told that he couldn't be seen if he stood against a dark background.

I can see why her employees might be suing her.

Did anyone ask him if that statement bothered him?

Paula Deen is getting a raw deel.

I wonder why no one answers this question (I've posted in a number of these threads) - who among us has never said anything that could be deemed discriminatory or prejudiced (even in a bad attempt at humor)?

/listen - you can hear crickets chirping...



"Tu Quoque" is considered a logical fallacy for a reason.
 
2013-06-25 02:30:56 PM

Truther: Philip Francis Queeg: I'm sure Hollis was thrilled to be told that he couldn't be seen if he stood against a dark background.

I can see why her employees might be suing her.

Did anyone ask him if that statement bothered him?

Paula Deen is getting a raw deel.

I wonder why no one answers this question (I've posted in a number of these threads) - who among us has never said anything that could be deemed discriminatory or prejudiced (even in a bad attempt at humor)?

/listen - you can hear crickets chirping...


I'm sure Paula didn't bother to ask him if he was upset by the"joke". However it is quite clear that the employees who are suing her were offended at her behavior.

People can say what ever they want. However when your entire career is based on being popular with wide segments of the public, making discriminatory of prejudiced statements can make you less popular with much of the public.  There are plenty of people who can make unhealthy food on TV. They aren't obligated to use a woman who's statements and actions have offended people.
 
2013-06-25 02:36:46 PM

Rik01: Besides, the Civil War wasn't that long ago.


150 years ago is not a long time. Gotcha.

Rik01: Most folks over 50 have used racial slurs in their lives because they were born during a time when such a thing was common and just was.


So that makes it okay. Gotcha.

Rik01: Yeah. racial slurs are inappropriate, but unless the one using them is an absolute fanatic and died-in-the-wool racist, there's no freakin' reason to turn it into a media circus, blowing it so out of proportion that it nearly becomes unrecognizable.


BEcause calling slaves "workers" means you have the right mindset about ANYTHING in life.

Rik01: and if you've ever been to Minnesota for any length of time, the common dialect there can set your teeth on edge


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXw-jDO8S8A
 
2013-06-25 02:39:04 PM
I think she can solve all these publicity problems by adding more butter.
 
2013-06-25 02:43:49 PM

Truther: Philip Francis Queeg: I'm sure Hollis was thrilled to be told that he couldn't be seen if he stood against a dark background.

I can see why her employees might be suing her.

Did anyone ask him if that statement bothered him?

Paula Deen is getting a raw deel.

I wonder why no one answers this question (I've posted in a number of these threads) - who among us has never said anything that could be deemed discriminatory or prejudiced (even in a bad attempt at humor)?

/listen - you can hear crickets chirping...



I've said more than my fair share of discriminatory/bigoted/racist words I am sure. Then I grew up and experienced my sonder moment. And then I didn't go into a line of work that expressly requires the good opinion of the public to make or break me. And then I realized there was no reason to make stupid arguments to let people off the hook for stupid behavior just because someone, many of us, had done it before.
 
2013-06-25 02:45:29 PM
Dear The South,

Stop fetishizing yourself.    Your Bubba Bozo self caricature is sad and pathetic.     Your ceaseless wallowing in self pity over a war that happened 150 years ago is as attention-whorey and gluttonous as your hair, your makeup, your jewelery and your food.    No one takes your martyrism seriously because you were fighting for the right to  use other human beings as chattel.    Sorry, other people stopped in to stop you from being evil.   We did it to the Germans too, they got over it.    Please join the rest of us in the 21st Century as soon as you get the opportunity.   In the meantime, start looking into some new cultural tribal traits like modesty, frugality and self-reflection.

Signed,
Everyone
 
2013-06-25 03:36:14 PM
Just...wow.

How the hell can she even believe he had "30 something people on his books" who "worked" for him? How is that possible in the 21st century.

I admit it. I don't understand Americans.
 
2013-06-25 03:50:48 PM
indarwinsshadow:
How the hell can she even believe he had "30 something people on his books" who "worked" for him? How is that possible in the 21st century.

I think that she is well aware that they were slaves. She was just choosing her words carefully.

Also, she did not say they worked for him ... she referred to them as workers. And the books that she referred to were not payroll books ... they would have been for tracking workers and/or their ownership.

Judging by what has come out in the civil trial (slavery themed wedding, etc.), even if she is not overly racist, she has a far too casual attitude towards that chapter of the south's history. Probably because her ancestors were on the happy side of it (until the war of course).
 
2013-06-25 04:11:14 PM

indarwinsshadow: Just...wow.

How the hell can she even believe he had "30 something people on his books" who "worked" for him? How is that possible in the 21st century.

I admit it. I don't understand Americans.


Well, we all know that Canadians are perfect in regarding other races as equal, eh?

www.cbc.ca
 
2013-06-25 04:11:23 PM
 
2013-06-25 04:38:00 PM
I'm call bullshiat on this everybody does it nonsense. My parents were born in 1929 and 1933 and grew up in farking Oklahoma and I never heard either of them say a racist thing in my entire life. And NEVER (not once) the N word. My old man would have shut me down I had ever talked like that.

My mother (rest in peace, Mom) would tell you all that only ignorant people who don't know any better and lack manners would use that kind of talk.

Then she'd wash your mouth out with soap.
 
2013-06-25 04:58:25 PM
Haha, reminds me of that scene from Spike Lee's "Four LIttle Girls" where he is interviewing an elderly George Wallace, and he calls over his black "best friend." Calls him over twice to show him off to the cameras.

The look on his "best friend's" face is priceless.

http://www.criticalcommons.org/Members/MRobinson/clips/four-little-g ir ls-george-wallace.mp4/view
 
2013-06-25 06:12:49 PM

FlashHarry: Rik01: I certainly knew and used racial slurs and I also knew of black folks using racial slurs against whites.

not quite equal, though, is it? considering that "black folks" were subject to a couple of hundred years of slavery and oppression by whites.


Guess who sold those blacks into slavery?


Here's a hint. They weren't white people.

/drop the whole but muh white peoples so mean!
 
2013-06-25 07:03:50 PM

FlashHarry: Rik01: I certainly knew and used racial slurs and I also knew of black folks using racial slurs against whites.

not quite equal, though, is it? considering that "black folks" were subject to a couple of hundred years of slavery and oppression by whites.


So it's ok that blacks treat all whites a certain way because some whites were cruel to their ancestors?  What's it called when you treat a group of people as if they were the worst of that group that you've known?  I think there's a word for it.
 
2013-06-25 07:57:05 PM
someone say racist?
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2013-06-25 07:59:48 PM
Personally, I'm kinda impressed she uses the word 'people' when talking about the blacks. Huge step foward for the average 60+ year old Georgian.
 
2013-06-25 08:31:07 PM
If you truly feel Paula Deen has been given a raw deal, you should follow the example of the Chik-Fil-A supporters and buy as much of her products and scarf down as much of her food as possible. Here's a link:

http://www.pauladeenstore.com/

The poor woman desperately needs your money. I suggest eating whole sticks of butter wrapped in bacon to show your solidarity, If every Teabagger in the country switched exclusively to a butter and bacon diet for a few months, the world would be a better place.
 
2013-06-25 08:32:09 PM
Any reason that her great grandfather didn't simply hire people to work the plantation?

Boo hoo - He lost his slaves.

Just think about how stupid she sounds.
 
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