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2013-06-25 02:28:35 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: MNguy: How about we don't violate a person's privacy?

If you've placed something in public view, there's no privacy to violate.


Everything that is not in the basement of your mother's house is fit for public consumption.
 
2013-06-25 02:29:49 PM

MNguy: Justify taking pictures of people unawares. Because I don't think that you can


Here ya go: It's perfectly legal, therefore I can do it if I want. I have a right to photograph stuff that is in public view. If you don't want your picture taken, it's YOUR responsibility to not put yourself in a position to have your picture taken, but MY right shall not be infringed.
 
2013-06-25 02:29:52 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: MNguy: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: MNguy: Really, you have no clue.  I'm glad that you're ok with the surveillance state, but I'm not.  How high is your fence?  How thick are your walls?  I've never met a dipshiat as big as you in real life, but ok.

Everyone is walking around with a camera and a connection to the Internet in their pocket. The surveillance state is here. That ship has sailed.

Not in my back yard.  And I can help it.

No one in this thread has argued otherwise.


F.A.T has kind of argued that it's ok.  I do not think that it's ok.
 
2013-06-25 02:31:05 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: MNguy: Justify taking pictures of people unawares. Because I don't think that you can

Here ya go: It's perfectly legal, therefore I can do it if I want. I have a right to photograph stuff that is in public view. If you don't want your picture taken, it's YOUR responsibility to not put yourself in a position to have your picture taken, but MY right shall not be infringed.


Ok, fine.  You take a picture of me and my family while we're in the park.
 
2013-06-25 02:31:34 PM

MNguy: But if you really think that it's ok to take pictures of people when they are leisuring or whatever, you are a moran well within your legal rights to do so.


Fixed that for more accuracy
 
2013-06-25 02:31:40 PM
You all are not understanding the law at all.  You cannot do that.
 
2013-06-25 02:32:46 PM
no.  you really can't.  and if you think flying your little airplane or whatever is legal,, you're in for a nice surprise.
 
2013-06-25 02:35:10 PM

MNguy: Sin_City_Superhero: MNguy: Justify taking pictures of people unawares. Because I don't think that you can

Here ya go: It's perfectly legal, therefore I can do it if I want. I have a right to photograph stuff that is in public view. If you don't want your picture taken, it's YOUR responsibility to not put yourself in a position to have your picture taken, but MY right shall not be infringed.

Ok, fine.  You take a picture of me and my family while we're in the park.


Sorry to burst your bubble, dude, but no one gives a shiat about your ugly ass family. We're really not interested at all in photographing them.
 
2013-06-25 02:36:02 PM

MNguy: Everything that is not in the basement of your mother's house is fit for public consumption.


False. Completely and blatantly false.

MNguy: F.A.T has kind of argued that it's ok.


I haven't even kind argued that. You have said that I have, but that doesn't make it true.
 
2013-06-25 02:36:36 PM

MNguy: Really, you have no clue.  I'm glad that you're ok with the surveillance state, but I'm not.  How high is your fence?  How thick are your walls?  I've never met a dipshiat as big as you in real life, but ok.


I'm sure there is a difference between whether you can take the photo and what you can do with the photo.   you are pretty much free to take whatever photo you wish on public or even sort of public private property, it is what you do with the photo afterwards that can be the difference
 
2013-06-25 02:36:46 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Sorry to burst your bubble, dude, but no one gives a shiat about your ugly ass family.


www.citizenx.cx

Hee hee. Ugly ass-family.
 
2013-06-25 02:39:32 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: MNguy: Everything that is not in the basement of your mother's house is fit for public consumption.

False. Completely and blatantly false.

MNguy: F.A.T has kind of argued that it's ok.

I haven't even kind argued that. You have said that I have, but that doesn't make it true.


Define 'public" for me then.
 
2013-06-25 02:40:09 PM

Waldo Pepper: I can if you try to sell the photo


I'll make sure to give you a cut when I sell it.   ;-)
 
2013-06-25 02:40:36 PM

Waldo Pepper: MNguy: Really, you have no clue.  I'm glad that you're ok with the surveillance state, but I'm not.  How high is your fence?  How thick are your walls?  I've never met a dipshiat as big as you in real life, but ok.

I'm sure there is a difference between whether you can take the photo and what you can do with the photo.   you are pretty much free to take whatever photo you wish on public or even sort of public private property, it is what you do with the photo afterwards that can be the difference


What's the difference between taking a photo and choosing what to do with it?
 
2013-06-25 02:40:41 PM

MNguy: Mikey1969: MNguy: How is it different?  You're wrong and a little bit creepy.

I explained how it was different, I'm not "wrong and a little bit creepy". I'm right, and you're a 'lot bit' dense.

I'll explain it again:
Clothes are the privacy barrier. You violate that privacy barrier by hiding in a place where you can get around the barrier and take pictures. Same thing with people who sneak cameras into bathroons. They are getting around the privacy barrier. This woman is in public, she is wearing her choice of clothing in public(Her privacy barrier), and nobody is getting around that. If you are walking naked in your living room and can be seen from the street because your front blinds are open, you have no right to privacy there. Move from in front of the window, and you do. Once there is a barrier that people have to circumvent or violate(Such as a skirt in this case), you are protected.

You also aren't protected if you have a low fence in your yard and walk out back naked. People standing in the next yard don't have to avert their eyes. If you have a tall fence, on the other hand, and they climb a ladder, or drill a hole in it, then they are violating your right to privacy. The sad thing is; I'm pretty sure my 15 year old stepson can grasp this concept.

You're parsing words, and coming off like a farking creep who takes pictures of people who are unsuspecting.  It should involve an explicit agreement to allow photos, not some tenuous 'privacy barrier'.


This isn't Ireland. (Where they DO have that law)
 
2013-06-25 02:42:18 PM
Once it's on my camera I can do whatever I want with it.
 
2013-06-25 02:43:29 PM
Another Government Employee:
This isn't Ireland. (Where they DO have that law)

It's a bad law?
 
2013-06-25 02:46:58 PM

MNguy: Noticeably F.A.T.: MNguy: Everything that is not in the basement of your mother's house is fit for public consumption.

False. Completely and blatantly false.

MNguy: F.A.T has kind of argued that it's ok.

I haven't even kind argued that. You have said that I have, but that doesn't make it true.

Define 'public" for me then.


Any establishment or area that is not privately owned. Establishment or areas that are privately owned can allow or disallow certain degrees of behavior or actions, including but not limited to taking photos. Unless you own the property or are legally the resident of the property/area, it isn't your call. While you might not agree with someone taking pictures of your family, saying it is illegal for them to is not the case. You can yell at the person(s) taking photos, but you would be in the wrong from a legal standpoint. I think most people would agree with you on the creepy factor but not legal. With that said it is legal to take the photo, but there are numerous limitations on what can be done after the fact with the image(s). You asking me not to take a photo is essentially telling me not to look and remember that image. A photograph is a memory of that image. What if I were to say draw your family, and I can assure you I can achieve fairly close to photo-realistic image quality?
 
2013-06-25 02:47:03 PM

MNguy: Waldo Pepper: MNguy: Really, you have no clue.  I'm glad that you're ok with the surveillance state, but I'm not.  How high is your fence?  How thick are your walls?  I've never met a dipshiat as big as you in real life, but ok.

I'm sure there is a difference between whether you can take the photo and what you can do with the photo.   you are pretty much free to take whatever photo you wish on public or even sort of public private property, it is what you do with the photo afterwards that can be the difference

What's the difference between taking a photo and choosing what to do with it?


well you can take all the photos you desire of the hollywood sign but once you try to sell it as a print you have a copyright issue on your hands.  but you can take a photo of the hollywood sign and sell it for editorial purposes such as newspapers

I can take a photo of a gorgeous girl at the beach but once I try to sell it I'm violating her rights to her image, unless I have her permission

so it makes a big difference.  You can photograph pretty much anything for your private use and even posting on places such as facebook or flickr as long as you don't use it for commercial purposes.
 
2013-06-25 02:48:04 PM

MNguy: What's the difference between taking a photo and choosing what to do with it?


Absolutely everything, where the law is concerned. There are certain situations where I would need a model release from anyone recognizable in the photo. Those situations mostly cover advertising and other commercial use. For editorial and artistic use, I don't need anyone's permission but my own (as the copyright holder) to publish the photograph.

Keep cowering in fear of the pedophiles that are after you and your family.
 
2013-06-25 02:48:53 PM
 
2013-06-25 02:49:01 PM

Waldo Pepper: I can take a photo of a gorgeous girl at the beach but once I try to sell it I'm violating her rights to her image, unless I have her permission


If that were true, TMZ wouldn't exist.
 
2013-06-25 02:49:20 PM
more than likely, you can't draw a good picture.  anyway, leave me and my family alone.
 
2013-06-25 02:50:16 PM

MNguy: Define 'public" for me then.


pub·lic
/ˈpəblik/

Adjective Of or concerning the people as a whole.

Noun Ordinary people in general; the community.

Synonyms adjective. common - open - national - general - communal - overt noun. audience - people - house - community


Now you explain to me how any of that could possibly be construed as "Everything that is not in the basement of your mother's house", and where anyone but you in the thread said anything like that.
 
2013-06-25 02:51:14 PM

servlet: MNguy: What's the difference between taking a photo and choosing what to do with it?

Absolutely everything, where the law is concerned. There are certain situations where I would need a model release from anyone recognizable in the photo. Those situations mostly cover advertising and other commercial use. For editorial and artistic use, I don't need anyone's permission but my own (as the copyright holder) to publish the photograph.

Keep cowering in fear of the pedophiles that are after you and your family.


derp.  I'm glad we have clueless folks in the world to keep litigation going.  you stupid, ignorant fark.
 
2013-06-25 02:52:11 PM

MNguy: leave me and my family alone.


If you want complete isolation, then completely isolate yourself. If you want to join other people in shared spaces, you're going to give up some privacy. Deal with it.
 
2013-06-25 02:52:28 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: MNguy: Define 'public" for me then.

pub·lic
/ˈpəblik/

Adjective Of or concerning the people as a whole.

Noun Ordinary people in general; the community.

Synonyms adjective. common - open - national - general - communal - overt noun. audience - people - house - community

Now you explain to me how any of that could possibly be construed as "Everything that is not in the basement of your mother's house", and where anyone but you in the thread said anything like that.


Oh, sorry.  I meant anywhere outside.
 
2013-06-25 02:53:21 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: MNguy: leave me and my family alone.

If you want complete isolation, then completely isolate yourself. If you want to join other people in shared spaces, you're going to give up some privacy. Deal with it.


I can't wait until your mom shows up on you porn.
 
2013-06-25 02:56:37 PM

Waldo Pepper: well you can take all the photos you desire of the hollywood sign but once you try to sell it as a print you have a copyright issue on your hands.  but you can take a photo of the hollywood sign and sell it for editorial purposes such as newspapers

I can take a photo of a gorgeous girl at the beach but once I try to sell it I'm violating her rights to her image, unless I have her permission


You're actually wrong on both accounts. You can't use the picture of the girl at the beach in a commercial capacity (think "advertising") without getting a model release from her, but selling the photo as art is completely okay. The hollywood sign falls under derivative works, so you can do whatever you'd like with the photograph.
 
2013-06-25 02:57:56 PM
Y'all done been creep/upskirt trolled
 
2013-06-25 02:59:46 PM

MNguy: derp.  I'm glad we have clueless folks in the world to keep litigation going.  you stupid, ignorant fark.


Clueless? Man, this is my job and my LIFE. I can't afford to not know the law. I guarantee that every photograph I shoot is within the law and every way that I use the photographs I shoot is also within the law. That includes my professional work as well as my personal "for fun" work.
 
2013-06-25 03:03:05 PM

MNguy: Oh, sorry. I meant anywhere outside.


Ok, explain how "Of or concerning the people as a whole." or "Ordinary people in general; the community." can possibly be construed as "anywhere outside".
 
2013-06-25 03:03:55 PM

trappedspirit: Y'all done been creep/upskirt trolled


Oh no. An idiot convinced us all that he's an idiot. I feel so ashamed.
 
2013-06-25 03:06:14 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: MNguy: Oh, sorry. I meant anywhere outside.

Ok, explain how "Of or concerning the people as a whole." or "Ordinary people in general; the community." can possibly be construed as "anywhere outside".


Besides the plain language?  I can't help you, sorry.
 
2013-06-25 03:12:33 PM

MNguy: I can't wait until your mom shows up on you porn.


What's wrong with you?
 
2013-06-25 03:13:01 PM

MNguy: Besides the plain language? I can't help you, sorry.


So you think that your enclosed back yard (which is presumably outside, what with it being a back yard) is a public space?
 
2013-06-25 03:13:38 PM

MNguy: more than likely, you can't draw a good picture.  anyway, leave me and my family alone.


i44.tinypic.com
 
2013-06-25 03:16:09 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: MNguy: Besides the plain language? I can't help you, sorry.

So you think that your enclosed back yard (which is presumably outside, what with it being a back yard) is a public space?


No, it is not.
 
2013-06-25 03:17:14 PM
Hmmm... that's gonna leave a mark.
 
2013-06-25 03:17:18 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: MNguy: I can't wait until your mom shows up on you porn.

What's wrong with you?


I'm sure your mother was on camera sometime.  Did she ever see the light of day?
 
2013-06-25 03:28:19 PM
Ban cameras from them.  Make it legal to shoot them down if they're over your property.

Free-roaming farking cats are bad enough.  Don't need this shiat too.
 
2013-06-25 03:28:21 PM

vpb: What can one of these things lift?  An M-67 grenade weighs 14oz/400g.

Wait until the NRA gets in on this!  I see some epic fark threads coming up!


You know, that is actually a really disturbing thought. Imagine if the Boston bombers had used drones instead of walking the streets personally to plant the bombs, for example.
 
2013-06-25 03:29:42 PM

MNguy: Noticeably F.A.T.: MNguy: Besides the plain language? I can't help you, sorry.

So you think that your enclosed back yard (which is presumably outside, what with it being a back yard) is a public space?

No, it is not.


So, you think that the definition of public says that it's public, but you don't think it's public?

Yeah, it's everyone else in the thread who is confused and ignorant, you've got a complete handle on the situation. Sure, we'll run with that.
 
2013-06-25 03:31:41 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: MNguy: Noticeably F.A.T.: MNguy: Besides the plain language? I can't help you, sorry.

So you think that your enclosed back yard (which is presumably outside, what with it being a back yard) is a public space?

No, it is not.

So, you think that the definition of public says that it's public, but you don't think it's public?

Yeah, it's everyone else in the thread who is confused and ignorant, you've got a complete handle on the situation. Sure, we'll run with that.


I never thought you were this stupid.  But ok.
 
2013-06-25 03:31:49 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: MNguy: How about we don't violate a person's privacy?

If you've placed something in public view, there's no privacy to violate.


You can tell him the Earth is round all day long, and if he thinks you're wrong, he'll just keep digging that hole. Incidentally, if you call him out for being a totally stupid moron after going around and around with him trying to explain this, he'll cry to the mods because that's easier than admitting that you are in way over your head.
 
2013-06-25 03:33:48 PM
I understand, if you step outside of your house you are likely on camera.  I don't have to like it.
 
2013-06-25 03:34:38 PM
derp derp derp. I love the police state.
 
2013-06-25 03:40:18 PM

Rangeley Tourist Hunter: JAFO


If that's what I think it is, then I must say that the scene with the naked yoga lady would be a better, if NSFW, reference.

/the only scene worth remembering in that movie
 
2013-06-25 03:49:31 PM

MNguy: I never thought you were this stupid. But ok.


You know that your posts don't get deleted and we can all scroll back up and see what you've said, right? You said that "Of or concerning the people as a whole." or "Ordinary people in general; the community." can be construed to mean "everything outside" (in other words, everything outside is public), and you also said that your yard isn't public. Is your yard indoors?
 
2013-06-25 03:53:55 PM

MNguy: Get a farking life, don't take pictures of people when they have not explicitly given permission to do so. I guess this is difficult for weirdos and creeps to understand.


You might want to read up on privacy laws involving photographing people in public.

Of course, it varies from country to country, but generally speaking if you're visible in a public area, I can take a picture of you without your explicit permission. All the more so if you have some amount of fame or notoriety.

Remember the case a few years ago where some of the girls in the Girl Gone Wild videos sued the producers? They lost their case after the judge pointed out that they had no lawful expectation of any right to privacy while exposing themselves in public.
 
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