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(CNN)   Zimmerman defense lawyer apologizes to jury for telling knock-knock joke about them in his opening statement, asks them if they've heard the one about Trayvon Martin's favorite flavor of Skittles   (cnn.com) divider line 933
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2013-06-26 05:03:27 AM  
Zimmerman admits he pinned Martin "face down" it is no surprise that Martin's pants have mud and dirt on the front of them.


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2013-06-26 07:16:22 AM  

ongbok: Zimmerman's back doesn't have any grass stains or mud on them and neither do his pants despite the fact he was on his back. So I guess that didn't happen either right?


The photo of Zimmerman's back was taken at the police station, 2 hours after the incident. Also, we have a police report indicating that Zimmerman's back was wet and covered with grass.

Care to try again?
 
2013-06-26 07:26:01 AM  

hinten: Zimmerman admits he pinned Martin "face down" it is no surprise that Martin's pants have mud and dirt on the front of them.


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If Martin was pinned face down, how did Zimmerman get his head slammed into the concrete two dozen times...?
 
2013-06-26 07:36:47 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: ongbok: Zimmerman's back doesn't have any grass stains or mud on them and neither do his pants despite the fact he was on his back. So I guess that didn't happen either right?

The photo of Zimmerman's back was taken at the police station, 2 hours after the incident. Also, we have a police report indicating that Zimmerman's back was wet and covered with grass.

Care to try again?


To reiterate his last point:

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2013-06-26 07:40:29 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: ongbok: Zimmerman's back doesn't have any grass stains or mud on them and neither do his pants despite the fact he was on his back. So I guess that didn't happen either right?

The photo of Zimmerman's back was taken at the police station, 2 hours after the incident. Also, we have a police report indicating that Zimmerman's back was wet and covered with grass.

Care to try again?


I'd also like to point out, looking at the grass in the photos, it's that type of grass that's thick and almost plastic like. There wouldn't be any mud, even if it rained, and you would need significant pressure in a concentrated area to get stains, like on the knees of Martin's pants.
GZ's jacket is the type of fabric that doesn't absorb moisture, probably 100% synthetic, so getting actual stains on it or some sort of moisture puddle would be nearly impossible but as was noted by the officers he had grass and whatnot on his back.
 
2013-06-26 07:43:22 AM  

hinten: Zimmerman admits he pinned Martin "face down"


I haven't read that.  Do you have a link?
 
2013-06-26 07:47:29 AM  
Never mind.  I found it.
 
2013-06-26 07:48:13 AM  

The Muthaship: hinten: Zimmerman admits he pinned Martin "face down"

I haven't read that.  Do you have a link?


He's referring to the part after GZ shot Martin, he didn't know he had neutralized him so he pinned him down to restrain him. Easy to explain in the heat of the moment when adrenaline, fear, and disorientation were key players.
 
2013-06-26 07:48:17 AM  

The Muthaship: hinten: Zimmerman admits he pinned Martin "face down"

I haven't read that.  Do you have a link?


He pinned him after he shot him. if they're trying to argue that he was winning the fight at this point, then I guess they're right he was winning
 
2013-06-26 07:58:21 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: hinten: Zimmerman admits he pinned Martin "face down" it is no surprise that Martin's pants have mud and dirt on the front of them.


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If Martin was pinned face down, how did Zimmerman get his head slammed into the concrete two dozen times...?


Exactly.
 
2013-06-26 07:59:47 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: ongbok: Zimmerman's back doesn't have any grass stains or mud on them and neither do his pants despite the fact he was on his back. So I guess that didn't happen either right?

The photo of Zimmerman's back was taken at the police station, 2 hours after the incident. Also, we have a police report indicating that Zimmerman's back was wet and covered with grass.

Care to try again?


So, how come Martin's pants have stains on them but neither Zimmerman's jacket nor pants?
 
2013-06-26 08:11:10 AM  

ChaosStar: Popcorn Johnny: ongbok: Zimmerman's back doesn't have any grass stains or mud on them and neither do his pants despite the fact he was on his back. So I guess that didn't happen either right?

The photo of Zimmerman's back was taken at the police station, 2 hours after the incident. Also, we have a police report indicating that Zimmerman's back was wet and covered with grass.

Care to try again?

I'd also like to point out, looking at the grass in the photos, it's that type of grass that's thick and almost plastic like. There wouldn't be any mud, even if it rained, and you would need significant pressure in a concentrated area to get stains, like on the knees of Martin's pants.
GZ's jacket is the type of fabric that doesn't absorb moisture, probably 100% synthetic, so getting actual stains on it or some sort of moisture puddle would be nearly impossible but as was noted by the officers he had grass and whatnot on his back.


How do you explain the difference in stains between the two pants?
 
2013-06-26 08:12:40 AM  

hinten: Satanic_Hamster: hinten: Zimmerman admits he pinned Martin "face down" it is no surprise that Martin's pants have mud and dirt on the front of them.


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If Martin was pinned face down, how did Zimmerman get his head slammed into the concrete two dozen times...?

Exactly.


Are you trolling? Cause Hamster is.

hinten: Popcorn Johnny: ongbok: Zimmerman's back doesn't have any grass stains or mud on them and neither do his pants despite the fact he was on his back. So I guess that didn't happen either right?

The photo of Zimmerman's back was taken at the police station, 2 hours after the incident. Also, we have a police report indicating that Zimmerman's back was wet and covered with grass.

Care to try again?

So, how come Martin's pants have stains on them but neither Zimmerman's jacket nor pants?


Simple friction and material difference.
Take your left hand and hold it palm up, now take your right index finger and push the tip into the middle of your left palm. Now move your finger in circles, back and forth, etc without moving the tip. Feel the friction? That's Martin's knee.
Now repeat only this time put your right palm on your left one and put more pressure on the hell of your right palm than the rest. Now make the motion again it while keeping your palms together (i.e. not sliding them). This is GZ's back. Notice the difference in friction from the finger experiment.
GZ's pants have no pressure on them, very likely they were flailing free as Martin straddled him. By the time they were photographed any water on them would likely have dried.
This is a crude way of understanding the forces at work during the altercation.
You can also look at the materials of the clothing. GZ's jacket is synthetic fibers made to repel water, Martin's pants are not.
 
2013-06-26 08:17:42 AM  

hinten: So, how come Martin's pants have stains on them but neither Zimmerman's jacket nor pants?


I don't understand your logic here. Why do Zimmerman's clothes need to have grass stains if he fell to the ground on his back and was then pinned to the ground? Had Zimmerman told police that there was a struggle in which he was on the ground and on his knees, then you might be right in asking about a lack of grass stains on Zimmerman's pants.

Zimmerman's back was wet and covered with grass, that's a fact.
 
2013-06-26 08:19:04 AM  

hinten: How do you explain the difference in stains between the two pants?


Because Zimmerman wasn't on his knees, straddling Trayvon.
 
2013-06-26 08:24:21 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: hinten: How do you explain the difference in stains between the two pants?

Because Zimmerman wasn't on his knees, straddling Trayvon.


So, you are saying that Martin got stains on his knees while straddling Zimmerman but Zimmerman not getting stains on the back of his pants?
 
2013-06-26 08:25:26 AM  

hinten: Popcorn Johnny: hinten: How do you explain the difference in stains between the two pants?

Because Zimmerman wasn't on his knees, straddling Trayvon.

So, you are saying that Martin got stains on his knees while straddling Zimmerman but Zimmerman not getting stains on the back of his pants?


I just explained it to you guy, four posts up.
 
2013-06-26 08:28:37 AM  

ChaosStar: hinten: Popcorn Johnny: hinten: How do you explain the difference in stains between the two pants?

Because Zimmerman wasn't on his knees, straddling Trayvon.

So, you are saying that Martin got stains on his knees while straddling Zimmerman but Zimmerman not getting stains on the back of his pants?

I just explained it to you guy, four posts up.


You didn't get out much as a kid, did you?
 
2013-06-26 08:32:11 AM  

hinten: ChaosStar: hinten: Popcorn Johnny: hinten: How do you explain the difference in stains between the two pants?

Because Zimmerman wasn't on his knees, straddling Trayvon.

So, you are saying that Martin got stains on his knees while straddling Zimmerman but Zimmerman not getting stains on the back of his pants?

I just explained it to you guy, four posts up.

You didn't get out much as a kid, did you?


I got out plenty, I grew up on a dirt road 15 minutes from the nearest neighbor.
What does that have to do with anything?
 
2013-06-26 08:36:34 AM  

ChaosStar: What does that have to do with anything?


I think he means you don't have the firm grasp on dirt and grass stain transmission that he does.

I think we've gone plaid here, people.
 
2013-06-26 08:37:02 AM  

ChaosStar: hinten: ChaosStar: hinten: Popcorn Johnny: hinten: How do you explain the difference in stains between the two pants?

Because Zimmerman wasn't on his knees, straddling Trayvon.

So, you are saying that Martin got stains on his knees while straddling Zimmerman but Zimmerman not getting stains on the back of his pants?

I just explained it to you guy, four posts up.

You didn't get out much as a kid, did you?

I got out plenty, I grew up on a dirt road 15 minutes from the nearest neighbor.
What does that have to do with anything?


My experience had been that it is not possible to not get grass stains on my jeans when somebody is pinning me down. But that is many decades ago...
 
2013-06-26 08:39:42 AM  
Woo! new thread is up on TF!
 
2013-06-26 08:41:16 AM  

ChaosStar: Woo! new thread is up on TF!


Cool, let me post all the exact same posts again in the new thread. I expect everyone to do the same.
 
2013-06-26 08:43:52 AM  

hinten: Popcorn Johnny: hinten: How do you explain the difference in stains between the two pants?

Because Zimmerman wasn't on his knees, straddling Trayvon.

So, you are saying that Martin got stains on his knees while straddling Zimmerman but Zimmerman not getting stains on the back of his pants?


The pressure differential is what he means. There is a lot more weight being distributed between two points (eg Trayvon's knees) than there would be for someone laying down. The sheer area (several square feet versus a few square inches).

200 lbs / 288 in2  = ~.7 lbs per square inch (zimmerman)

160 lbs / 48 in2 = 3.3 lbs per square inch (Martin)**

Obviously these are rough, ballpark estimates but you can see there is quite a difference in pressure. It could go a lot higher or a lot or a lot lower depending on the specifics.

* Assuming just his back was on the ground and his legs weren't flailing
**Assuming the full length of his shin and feet were touching the grass
 
2013-06-26 08:44:14 AM  

hinten: ChaosStar: hinten: ChaosStar: hinten: Popcorn Johnny: hinten: How do you explain the difference in stains between the two pants?

Because Zimmerman wasn't on his knees, straddling Trayvon.

So, you are saying that Martin got stains on his knees while straddling Zimmerman but Zimmerman not getting stains on the back of his pants?

I just explained it to you guy, four posts up.

You didn't get out much as a kid, did you?

I got out plenty, I grew up on a dirt road 15 minutes from the nearest neighbor.
What does that have to do with anything?

My experience had been that it is not possible to not get grass stains on my jeans when somebody is pinning me down. But that is many decades ago...


There's plenty of variables between your experience and this situation friend. Child size vs GZ size, type of grass, range of motion, etc. It's been pretty well documented that GZ had moisture and grass on him though, so I'm not sure where your doubt is coming from.
 
2013-06-26 08:54:49 AM  

ChaosStar: hinten: ChaosStar: hinten: ChaosStar: hinten: Popcorn Johnny: hinten: How do you explain the difference in stains between the two pants?

Because Zimmerman wasn't on his knees, straddling Trayvon.

So, you are saying that Martin got stains on his knees while straddling Zimmerman but Zimmerman not getting stains on the back of his pants?

I just explained it to you guy, four posts up.

You didn't get out much as a kid, did you?

I got out plenty, I grew up on a dirt road 15 minutes from the nearest neighbor.
What does that have to do with anything?

My experience had been that it is not possible to not get grass stains on my jeans when somebody is pinning me down. But that is many decades ago...

There's plenty of variables between your experience and this situation friend. Child size vs GZ size, type of grass, range of motion, etc. It's been pretty well documented that GZ had moisture and grass on him though, so I'm not sure where your doubt is coming from.


I really dislike arguing about this because it is the very definition of fruitless but this is Fark so here we are.
My only point here is that Z could have very well simply rolled around on the grass (without anyone pinning him) and gotten wet and some grass on his back. I expect him to have actual stains from getting pinned on the wet grass and pushing upwards, fighting for his life as he claims.
Either way, I doubt this will impact the outcome of the trial one way or another.
 
2013-06-26 09:08:49 AM  

hinten: ChaosStar: hinten: ChaosStar: hinten: ChaosStar: hinten: Popcorn Johnny: hinten: How do you explain the difference in stains between the two pants?

Because Zimmerman wasn't on his knees, straddling Trayvon.

So, you are saying that Martin got stains on his knees while straddling Zimmerman but Zimmerman not getting stains on the back of his pants?

I just explained it to you guy, four posts up.

You didn't get out much as a kid, did you?

I got out plenty, I grew up on a dirt road 15 minutes from the nearest neighbor.
What does that have to do with anything?

My experience had been that it is not possible to not get grass stains on my jeans when somebody is pinning me down. But that is many decades ago...

There's plenty of variables between your experience and this situation friend. Child size vs GZ size, type of grass, range of motion, etc. It's been pretty well documented that GZ had moisture and grass on him though, so I'm not sure where your doubt is coming from.

I really dislike arguing about this because it is the very definition of fruitless but this is Fark so here we are.
My only point here is that Z could have very well simply rolled around on the grass (without anyone pinning him) and gotten wet and some grass on his back. I expect him to have actual stains from getting pinned on the wet grass and pushing upwards, fighting for his life as he claims.
Either way, I doubt this will impact the outcome of the trial one way or another.


He could have but that would have directly contradicted the witnesses that saw Zimmerman on his back.  I can't recall exactly if there is little or no gap between witness observations and the cop showing up, but the gun shot wound alone makes it kind of difficult to project any other kind of positioning for the two in my mind.
 
2013-06-26 09:12:30 AM  

redmid17: hinten: ChaosStar: hinten: ChaosStar: hinten: ChaosStar: hinten: Popcorn Johnny: hinten: How do you explain the difference in stains between the two pants?

Because Zimmerman wasn't on his knees, straddling Trayvon.

So, you are saying that Martin got stains on his knees while straddling Zimmerman but Zimmerman not getting stains on the back of his pants?

I just explained it to you guy, four posts up.

You didn't get out much as a kid, did you?

I got out plenty, I grew up on a dirt road 15 minutes from the nearest neighbor.
What does that have to do with anything?

My experience had been that it is not possible to not get grass stains on my jeans when somebody is pinning me down. But that is many decades ago...

There's plenty of variables between your experience and this situation friend. Child size vs GZ size, type of grass, range of motion, etc. It's been pretty well documented that GZ had moisture and grass on him though, so I'm not sure where your doubt is coming from.

I really dislike arguing about this because it is the very definition of fruitless but this is Fark so here we are.
My only point here is that Z could have very well simply rolled around on the grass (without anyone pinning him) and gotten wet and some grass on his back. I expect him to have actual stains from getting pinned on the wet grass and pushing upwards, fighting for his life as he claims.
Either way, I doubt this will impact the outcome of the trial one way or another.

He could have but that would have directly contradicted the witnesses that saw Zimmerman on his back.  I can't recall exactly if there is little or no gap between witness observations and the cop showing up, but the gun shot wound alone makes it kind of difficult to project any other kind of positioning for the two in my mind.


He had less than a minute between the first officer on the scene of the altercation and and the shot fired.
I don't really think, even if there wasn't evidence to the contrary, he would have the presence of mind to roll in the grass to help his alibi.
 
2013-06-26 09:18:08 AM  

hinten: Either way, I doubt this will impact the outcome of the trial one way or another.


This is the most damning evidence of the case for the prosecution. We have a police report showing that Zimmerman's back was wet and covered with grass and a photo showing that Trayvon's clothing was only wet at and below the knee and on the front side. Zimmerman claims that Trayvon was on top of him and the evidence fully supports his version of events.
 
2013-06-26 09:23:53 AM  

ongbok: BraveNewCheneyWorld: ongbok: Please stop ignoring the fact that Trayvon ran and tried to avoid the situation and Zimmerman continued to push it.

Yes.. This guy..
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Beat this guy..
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In any race.  Sounds legit.

As Zimmerman's lawyer said in his opening, at the time of the incident he was a lot lighter and in shape as he was regularly training in Muay Thai.



Oh, so he's the Materal World's version of this guy.

de-motivational-posters.com
 
2013-06-26 09:38:07 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: adjuster says the claimant is half at fault, because if they didn't get out of bed that morning this never would have happened. You're faulting Zimmerman for not knowing that TM had a right to be in that gated community. He was just checking on what he was up to, had TM just walked to his door and went inside, this never would have happened, but he had to get pissed off that he was being scrutinized, decided to teach Zimmerman a lesson, and got into a fight with someone who was armed. It sucks, but that's how it is. Zimmerman shouldn't have to pay for the fact that TM overreacted, and did so violently.


BraveNewCheneyWorld: Objection, conjecture.. AGAIN.

/sustained.


Classic. Next you'll post a pic of Zimmerman after he's gained 100 pounds and infer that's what he looked like the night of the shooting.
 
2013-06-26 10:11:07 AM  

NightOwl2255: BraveNewCheneyWorld: adjuster says the claimant is half at fault, because if they didn't get out of bed that morning this never would have happened. You're faulting Zimmerman for not knowing that TM had a right to be in that gated community. He was just checking on what he was up to, had TM just walked to his door and went inside, this never would have happened, but he had to get pissed off that he was being scrutinized, decided to teach Zimmerman a lesson, and got into a fight with someone who was armed. It sucks, but that's how it is. Zimmerman shouldn't have to pay for the fact that TM overreacted, and did so violently.

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Objection, conjecture.. AGAIN.

/sustained.

Classic. Next you'll post a pic of Zimmerman after he's gained 100 pounds and infer that's what he looked like the night of the shooting.


Zimmerman is fatter now, but he was never in good physical shape.
 
2013-06-26 04:03:47 PM  
The prosecutor said the F-word in court, though, and that's offensive so Zimmerman should be acquitted.

*******************************************************************

What was even funnier was the TV station covering it freaked out and the announcer came in and apologized about it and said that they were going to be using a 7 second delay from this point forward. Apparently they weren't used to using a delay and went right back to the trial and replayed the same scene and once again dropped the F bomb.
 
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