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(CNN)   Zimmerman defense lawyer apologizes to jury for telling knock-knock joke about them in his opening statement, asks them if they've heard the one about Trayvon Martin's favorite flavor of Skittles   (cnn.com) divider line 933
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2013-06-25 10:19:52 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: The ONLY reason the 2 met again that night is because Treyvon Martin wanted to see GZ again.  He HAD to double back to confront GZ or else GZ would never have been able to catch him even if he wanted to.


unless he was hiding from gz and got caught. you know, the way gz said he was hiding.
 
2013-06-25 10:25:35 PM

Abuse Liability: Thoguh: JuggleGeek: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Would you seriously fault someone in your neighborhood if they thought someone might be looking to rob your house (or worse) and called the cops while trying to keep an eye on them?

If that's all they did?  No, not at all.  But people who chase others down at night and shoot them are generally referred to as murderers or muggers or similar.  What you are describing, and what he actually did, are different.

I'm in favor of self defense, and in favor of guns.  But Martin is the one that wasn't causing any trouble.  He tried to avoid this, as witnessed by Zimmermans 911 call.  Zimmerman is the one that was acting oddly and pushing for a confrontation.  And Zimmerman is the one holding a smoking gun while standing over a dead body at the end of it all.

As evidenced by the fact that he ran straight home when he saw the bad man chasing him, right?

or in the four minutes after Zimmerman gave up the chase? It's funny how you leave out all the mitigating factors. Let me try.  Hitler was a leader, he rallied his people and unified his country .  And then the US joined the war and killed a bunch of Germans... The monsters.  Yes, I know i Godwin'd the shiat out of this but that example could hold up with anything similar.  The British were minding their own business and taxing the colonies, which was completely legal, and then those uppity colonists started a war.  Last one, I promise.  The South was just minding its business slaving away in the cotton fields and decided that they didn't want the North telling them what they should be doing.  The North invaded the South and massacred southern soldiers.


JuggleGeek is the kind of guy who would say that in the 1930s. Japan was modernizing, AND THEN the US dropped 2 atomic bombs on them.

His fables always leave out the most interesting parts.
 
2013-06-25 10:28:52 PM

CliChe Guevara: BraveNewCheneyWorld: The ONLY reason the 2 met again that night is because Treyvon Martin wanted to see GZ again.  He HAD to double back to confront GZ or else GZ would never have been able to catch him even if he wanted to.

unless he was hiding from gz and got caught. you know, the way gz said he was hiding.


The transcript I have doesn't say the word "hiding", can you please link the transcript you're using?
 
2013-06-25 10:34:43 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Just saw the picture of Trayvon laying on his back, and there isn't a drop of blood visible on his clothes. Guess that answers the question of why Zimmerman didn't have Trayvon's blood in him if he was over the top of Zimmerman when the shot was fired.


What picture did you see and where did you see it?
 
2013-06-25 10:35:08 PM
The anti-Zimmerman crowd is basically relying on a "yada yada yada" theory for the prosecution.

"Zimmerman saw a black teenager who wasn't doing anything wrong, but he followed the teen unfairly, and yada yada yada, he ended up dead."

You're all basically a walking Seinfeld joke.

Don't get your hopes up.
 
2013-06-25 10:35:51 PM

ChaosStar: According to testimony he was on the phone right up to the point he confronted Zimmerman, talking with her.


WHOAH WHOAH WHOAH.

Now we're believing the girlfriend? Because I stopped using her statement a long time ago because Zimmerman partisans all insisted she had no credibility.

Do you know WHY Zimmerman partisans wanted her statement disregarded?

Because it contains Trayvon's question "why are you following me," pregnant with the proposition that at the time of the encounter, Zimmerman was following Trayvon. Which in turn completely disproves Zimmerman's whole "he doubled back to attack me while I peacefully waited in my truck" line of bullsh*t.

And yes, Trayvon's question is admissible, and probative for the the truth of the mattered uttered under the present sense impression exception to the hearsay rule.

So, if you want to use the girlfriend's statement to prove Trayvon "aggressed" against Zimmerman when he calmly asked the perfectly reasonable question of the creepy, cursing man following him around with a loaded gun "why are you following me," then you all but seal Zimmerman's doom. You prove he lied, which proves what? Say it with me now--consciousness of wrongdoing, from which we may easily infer guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
2013-06-25 10:36:01 PM
The reason it's so easy for people to sum up the altercation so succinctly is that they avoid any evidence contrary to their opinion leaving very little substance to their arguments. It's irritating because you can scroll up through this thread and see all the simplistic, "he stalked and killed a child" emotional pleas. Way to avoid detail like it's a 400 lb. Prostitute with the herps
 
2013-06-25 10:37:26 PM

ongbok: Popcorn Johnny: Just saw the picture of Trayvon laying on his back, and there isn't a drop of blood visible on his clothes. Guess that answers the question of why Zimmerman didn't have Trayvon's blood in him if he was over the top of Zimmerman when the shot was fired.

What picture did you see and where did you see it?


probably this possibly nsfw and  *graphic*. Not that it truly is imo, but this is fark, and I figure better safe than sorry.
 
2013-06-25 10:39:14 PM

Phinn: The anti-Zimmerman crowd is basically relying on a "yada yada yada" theory for the prosecution.

"Zimmerman saw a black teenager who wasn't doing anything wrong, but he followed the teen unfairly, and yada yada yada, he ended up dead."

You're all basically a walking Seinfeld joke.

Don't get your hopes up.


Sorry, sparky. I saw you trying to use the girlfriend's statement above too. And if now suddenly the girlfriend is credible, Zimmerman is fried.

"Why are you following me?" Present tense.
 
2013-06-25 10:39:30 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: CliChe Guevara: BraveNewCheneyWorld: The ONLY reason the 2 met again that night is because Treyvon Martin wanted to see GZ again.  He HAD to double back to confront GZ or else GZ would never have been able to catch him even if he wanted to.

unless he was hiding from gz and got caught. you know, the way gz said he was hiding.

The transcript I have doesn't say the word "hiding", can you please link the transcript you're using?


  i know gz stories tend to conflict a lot, but i was referring to the one the night of the shooting where gz referred to tm as having 'jumped out of some bushes' and hitting him.
 there were actually no bushes near where he said it happened of course, but its gz, so you learn to ignore the inconvenient little details like that.

 at any rate, at least one gz account involved tm hiding. unless tm left the scene and then came back, hiding just fits the rest of what we know as well, including things inferred from gz's 911 call.
 we just don't hear much about tm hiding from gz and later being discovered being a possibility, as the other narrative - that tm left, then came back and hunted gz down - plays so much better for the gz apologists.
 
2013-06-25 10:40:22 PM

bugontherug: ChaosStar: According to testimony he was on the phone right up to the point he confronted Zimmerman, talking with her.

WHOAH WHOAH WHOAH.

Now we're believing the girlfriend? Because I stopped using her statement a long time ago because Zimmerman partisans all insisted she had no credibility.

Do you know WHY Zimmerman partisans wanted her statement disregarded?

Because it contains Trayvon's question "why are you following me," pregnant with the proposition that at the time of the encounter, Zimmerman was following Trayvon. Which in turn completely disproves Zimmerman's whole "he doubled back to attack me while I peacefully waited in my truck" line of bullsh*t.

And yes, Trayvon's question is admissible, and probative for the the truth of the mattered uttered under the present sense impression exception to the hearsay rule.

So, if you want to use the girlfriend's statement to prove Trayvon "aggressed" against Zimmerman when he calmly asked the perfectly reasonable question of the creepy, cursing man following him around with a loaded gun "why are you following me," then you all but seal Zimmerman's doom. You prove he lied, which proves what? Say it with me now--consciousness of wrongdoing, from which we may easily infer guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


Objection, conjecture.. AGAIN.

/sustained.
 
2013-06-25 10:40:37 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: ongbok: Popcorn Johnny: Just saw the picture of Trayvon laying on his back, and there isn't a drop of blood visible on his clothes. Guess that answers the question of why Zimmerman didn't have Trayvon's blood in him if he was over the top of Zimmerman when the shot was fired.

What picture did you see and where did you see it?

probably this possibly nsfw and  *graphic*. Not that it truly is imo, but this is fark, and I figure better safe than sorry.


He is claiming he saw one with him laying on his back, as far as I know one like that hasn't been released.
 
2013-06-25 10:41:39 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: probably this possibly nsfw and  *graphic*. Not that it truly is imo, but this is fark, and I figure better safe than sorry.


Yes, it was one of those, but the face wasn't blurred and it was much larger and clearer.
 
2013-06-25 10:43:09 PM

CliChe Guevara: BraveNewCheneyWorld: CliChe Guevara: BraveNewCheneyWorld: The ONLY reason the 2 met again that night is because Treyvon Martin wanted to see GZ again.  He HAD to double back to confront GZ or else GZ would never have been able to catch him even if he wanted to.

unless he was hiding from gz and got caught. you know, the way gz said he was hiding.

The transcript I have doesn't say the word "hiding", can you please link the transcript you're using?

  i know gz stories tend to conflict a lot, but i was referring to the one the night of the shooting where gz referred to tm as having 'jumped out of some bushes' and hitting him.
 there were actually no bushes near where he said it happened of course, but its gz, so you learn to ignore the inconvenient little details like that.

 at any rate, at least one gz account involved tm hiding. unless tm left the scene and then came back, hiding just fits the rest of what we know as well, including things inferred from gz's 911 call.
 we just don't hear much about tm hiding from gz and later being discovered being a possibility, as the other narrative - that tm left, then came back and hunted gz down - plays so much better for the gz apologists.


So.. you're not going to share the link directing us to where you found this information?
 
2013-06-25 10:43:43 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Objection,

conjecture.. AGAIN.

I do not think this word means what you think it means.
 
2013-06-25 10:44:59 PM

bugontherug: Phinn: The anti-Zimmerman crowd is basically relying on a "yada yada yada" theory for the prosecution.

"Zimmerman saw a black teenager who wasn't doing anything wrong, but he followed the teen unfairly, and yada yada yada, he ended up dead."

You're all basically a walking Seinfeld joke.

Don't get your hopes up.

Sorry, sparky. I saw you trying to use the girlfriend's statement above too. And if now suddenly the girlfriend is credible, Zimmerman is fried.

"Why are you following me?" Present tense.


Weren't her exact words, "What you following me for?"

You know ... in Ebonics?

Tell us some more about how GZ placed the call to the police on purpose, just to throw us off the scent. I never get tired of hearing that one.
 
2013-06-25 10:45:08 PM

bugontherug: Phinn: The anti-Zimmerman crowd is basically relying on a "yada yada yada" theory for the prosecution.

"Zimmerman saw a black teenager who wasn't doing anything wrong, but he followed the teen unfairly, and yada yada yada, he ended up dead."

You're all basically a walking Seinfeld joke.

Don't get your hopes up.

Sorry, sparky. I saw you trying to use the girlfriend's statement above too. And if now suddenly the girlfriend is credible, Zimmerman is fried.

"Why are you following me?" Present tense.


By the girlfriends admission he lost him. He's speaking in the present tense assuming zim was still trying to sniff him out and follow him. He wasn't aware zim was essentially waiting on the cops he called. I mean if you're trying to engage and shoot a child, its probably best not to give the cops so much notice they nearly catch you in the act
 
2013-06-25 10:48:34 PM

ongbok: He is claiming he saw one with him laying on his back, as far as I know one like that hasn't been released.


Well then, you're behind the times.

NSFW uncensored death photo
 
2013-06-25 10:48:54 PM

Abuse Liability: bugontherug: Phinn: The anti-Zimmerman crowd is basically relying on a "yada yada yada" theory for the prosecution.

"Zimmerman saw a black teenager who wasn't doing anything wrong, but he followed the teen unfairly, and yada yada yada, he ended up dead."

You're all basically a walking Seinfeld joke.

Don't get your hopes up.

Sorry, sparky. I saw you trying to use the girlfriend's statement above too. And if now suddenly the girlfriend is credible, Zimmerman is fried.

"Why are you following me?" Present tense.

By the girlfriends admission he lost him. He's speaking in the present tense assuming zim was still trying to sniff him out and follow him. He wasn't aware zim was essentially waiting on the cops he called. I mean if you're trying to engage and shoot a child, its probably best not to give the cops so much notice they nearly catch you in the act


How was Zimmerman waiting on the cops when he wouldn't give the cops the location he was at?
 
2013-06-25 10:49:34 PM

Abuse Liability: bugontherug: Phinn: The anti-Zimmerman crowd is basically relying on a "yada yada yada" theory for the prosecution.

"Zimmerman saw a black teenager who wasn't doing anything wrong, but he followed the teen unfairly, and yada yada yada, he ended up dead."

You're all basically a walking Seinfeld joke.

Don't get your hopes up.

Sorry, sparky. I saw you trying to use the girlfriend's statement above too. And if now suddenly the girlfriend is credible, Zimmerman is fried.

"Why are you following me?" Present tense.

By the girlfriends admission he lost him. He's speaking in the present tense assuming zim was still trying to sniff him out and follow him. He wasn't aware zim was essentially waiting on the cops he called. I mean if you're trying to engage and shoot a child, its probably best not to give the cops so much notice they nearly catch you in the act


Once you accept the fact that bugontherug and JuggleGeek are certifiably insane, their kook theories become a lot more entertaining.
 
2013-06-25 10:52:51 PM

gimmegimme: And Zimmy chose to continue his armed pursuit on foot.


Is that illegal?
 
2013-06-25 10:53:19 PM

ongbok: Abuse Liability: bugontherug: Phinn: The anti-Zimmerman crowd is basically relying on a "yada yada yada" theory for the prosecution.

"Zimmerman saw a black teenager who wasn't doing anything wrong, but he followed the teen unfairly, and yada yada yada, he ended up dead."

You're all basically a walking Seinfeld joke.

Don't get your hopes up.

Sorry, sparky. I saw you trying to use the girlfriend's statement above too. And if now suddenly the girlfriend is credible, Zimmerman is fried.

"Why are you following me?" Present tense.

By the girlfriends admission he lost him. He's speaking in the present tense assuming zim was still trying to sniff him out and follow him. He wasn't aware zim was essentially waiting on the cops he called. I mean if you're trying to engage and shoot a child, its probably best not to give the cops so much notice they nearly catch you in the act

How was Zimmerman waiting on the cops when he wouldn't give the cops the location he was at?


He said he would tell them when they got there. He thought martin was 'still around'. Regardless, you expect us to believe he was planning on starting an altercation after he called police? Nothing quite like getting yourself arrested for assault. Oh wait. Conspiracy theory to divert attention from his true motive.
 
2013-06-25 10:54:09 PM
For full effect, it ought to be written as, "Wha'choo followin' me fo'?"

Present tense, people! PRESENT. TENSE.

/sort of
 
2013-06-25 10:54:16 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Just saw the picture of Trayvon laying on his back, and there isn't a drop of blood visible on his clothes. Guess that answers the question of why Zimmerman didn't have Trayvon's blood in him if he was over the top of Zimmerman when the shot was fired.


Thats ok.  remember all the video that 'clearly showed' not a drop of blood on Zimmerman?
 
2013-06-25 10:54:49 PM
Oh and make sure you take a good look at Trayvon's pants in the photo I posted. Below the knee, they are clearly wet, consistent with straddling Zimmerman with his lower legs resting on the ground.
 
2013-06-25 10:56:07 PM

Nutsac_Jim: Thats ok.  remember all the video that 'clearly showed' not a drop of blood on Zimmerman?


The Zimmerman video was grainy, this picture is pretty damn clear. Not a drop of blood to be seen on Trayvon's hoodie.
 
2013-06-25 10:56:48 PM

Popcorn Johnny: ongbok: He is claiming he saw one with him laying on his back, as far as I know one like that hasn't been released.

Well then, you're behind the times.

NSFW uncensored death photo


Are those grass stains on his knees? Its almost as if he was kneeling on top of someone.
 
2013-06-25 10:58:58 PM

Abuse Liability: Are those grass stains on his knees? Its almost as if he was kneeling on top of someone.


Look at his pants below the knee, especially on the left leg. Only the front half of the pant leg is wet, clear evidence that he was kneeling in the wet grass.
 
2013-06-25 11:00:20 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Nutsac_Jim: Thats ok.  remember all the video that 'clearly showed' not a drop of blood on Zimmerman?

The Zimmerman video was grainy, this picture is pretty damn clear. Not a drop of blood to be seen on Trayvon's hoodie.


But what does that prove? Maybe shortly after being shot, his heart stopped pumping.
 
2013-06-25 11:01:50 PM

Abuse Liability: ongbok: Abuse Liability: bugontherug: Phinn: The anti-Zimmerman crowd is basically relying on a "yada yada yada" theory for the prosecution.

"Zimmerman saw a black teenager who wasn't doing anything wrong, but he followed the teen unfairly, and yada yada yada, he ended up dead."

You're all basically a walking Seinfeld joke.

Don't get your hopes up.

Sorry, sparky. I saw you trying to use the girlfriend's statement above too. And if now suddenly the girlfriend is credible, Zimmerman is fried.

"Why are you following me?" Present tense.

By the girlfriends admission he lost him. He's speaking in the present tense assuming zim was still trying to sniff him out and follow him. He wasn't aware zim was essentially waiting on the cops he called. I mean if you're trying to engage and shoot a child, its probably best not to give the cops so much notice they nearly catch you in the act

How was Zimmerman waiting on the cops when he wouldn't give the cops the location he was at?

He said he would tell them when they got there. He thought martin was 'still around'. Regardless, you expect us to believe he was planning on starting an altercation after he called police? Nothing quite like getting yourself arrested for assault. Oh wait. Conspiracy theory to divert attention from his true motive.


No I don't think he was planning on starting an altercation. I never said that. I always said that when Trayvon ran he got pissed and decided he was going to catch him because you know "These assholes always get away".

And also as the original investigator said, he had several opportunities to ask him as a concerned citizen what he was doing there before the situation escalated but didn't. He waited until the situation became confrontational one. He created that atmosphere.
 
2013-06-25 11:02:03 PM

Nutsac_Jim: But what does that prove? Maybe shortly after being shot, his heart stopped pumping.


What it proves is that Trayvon's blood wouldn't need to be found on Zimmerman's clothing just because he was above Zimmerman when he was shot. A lot of people had been claiming just that, not so much in this thread, but in others.
 
2013-06-25 11:03:30 PM

bugontherug: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Objection, conjecture.. AGAIN.

I do not think this word means what you think it means.


bugontherug: from which we may easily infer guilt


infer [in-fur] Show IPA
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: conclude
Synonyms: arrive at, ascertain, assume, believe, collect, conjecture, construe, deduce, derive, draw, draw inference, figure, figure out, gather, glean, guess, induce, interpret, intuit, judge, presume, presuppose, reach conclusion, read between lines, read into, reason, reckon, speculate, suppose, surmise, think, understand

I eagerly await your next tangent designed to distract from the fact that you were wrong yet again.
 
2013-06-25 11:03:33 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Abuse Liability: Are those grass stains on his knees? Its almost as if he was kneeling on top of someone.

Look at his pants below the knee, especially on the left leg. Only the front half of the pant leg is wet, clear evidence that he was kneeling in the wet grass.


Yeah, you posted so quickly I repeat posted you essentially. Good to see we both came to the same conclusion. Damn sad though. Being young and stupid shouldn't be a death sentence. shiatty circumstances are shiatty
 
2013-06-25 11:06:15 PM

Abuse Liability: Popcorn Johnny: Abuse Liability: Are those grass stains on his knees? Its almost as if he was kneeling on top of someone.

Look at his pants below the knee, especially on the left leg. Only the front half of the pant leg is wet, clear evidence that he was kneeling in the wet grass.

Yeah, you posted so quickly I repeat posted you essentially. Good to see we both came to the same conclusion. Damn sad though. Being young and stupid shouldn't be a death sentence. shiatty circumstances are shiatty


All that shows is there was a fight and they were rolling around, and at one point he was on top  which we all know.
 
2013-06-25 11:06:58 PM
Phinn: I've got nothing, so I'm going to randomly iterate a racist stereotype.

In her first statement at least, her words were "why are you following me for?" The phrase "what you following me for" doesn't appear.

Tell us some more about how GZ placed the call to the police on purpose, just to throw us off the scent. I never get tired of hearing that one.

Why? That's my theory of the case, not the prosecution's.

Oh wait--do you think that by mocking me you somehow undermine the validity or invalidity of my arguments? Because it really seems like you do.
 
2013-06-25 11:07:42 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Abuse Liability: Are those grass stains on his knees? Its almost as if he was kneeling on top of someone.

Look at his pants below the knee, especially on the left leg. Only the front half of the pant leg is wet, clear evidence that he was kneeling in the wet grass.


Stop discussing this "evidence" as though it means anything.

Here's what happened -- Zimmerman bought a gun, he went out for groceries while carrying said gun, and yada yada yada, Trayvon Martin was dead."

When you add these incontrovertible facts to the fact that DeeDee kinda sorta used the word "are" without actually enunciating the actual "are" sound ... well, gentlemen, need we say more?

Guilty. Period. End of story. QED.
 
2013-06-25 11:07:50 PM

ongbok: Abuse Liability: ongbok: Abuse Liability: bugontherug: Phinn: The anti-Zimmerman crowd is basically relying on a "yada yada yada" theory for the prosecution.

"Zimmerman saw a black teenager who wasn't doing anything wrong, but he followed the teen unfairly, and yada yada yada, he ended up dead."

You're all basically a walking Seinfeld joke.

Don't get your hopes up.

Sorry, sparky. I saw you trying to use the girlfriend's statement above too. And if now suddenly the girlfriend is credible, Zimmerman is fried.

"Why are you following me?" Present tense.

By the girlfriends admission he lost him. He's speaking in the present tense assuming zim was still trying to sniff him out and follow him. He wasn't aware zim was essentially waiting on the cops he called. I mean if you're trying to engage and shoot a child, its probably best not to give the cops so much notice they nearly catch you in the act

How was Zimmerman waiting on the cops when he wouldn't give the cops the location he was at?

He said he would tell them when they got there. He thought martin was 'still around'. Regardless, you expect us to believe he was planning on starting an altercation after he called police? Nothing quite like getting yourself arrested for assault. Oh wait. Conspiracy theory to divert attention from his true motive.

No I don't think he was planning on starting an altercation. I never said that. I always said that when Trayvon ran he got pissed and decided he was going to catch him because you know "These assholes always get away".

And also as the original investigator said, he had several opportunities to ask him as a concerned citizen what he was doing there before the situation escalated but didn't. He waited until the situation became confrontational one. He created that atmosphere.


Still no excuse for martins alleged behavior (based on evidence). My in-laws create hostile environments for me all the time but I don't assault them (even though I really want to).
 
2013-06-25 11:08:46 PM

ongbok: All that shows is there was a fight and they were rolling around, and at one point he was on top  which we all know.


Which means that there can be no proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman's story isn't accurate.  Not guilty.
 
2013-06-25 11:09:19 PM

ongbok: All that shows is there was a fight and they were rolling around, and at one point he was on top  which we all know.


Yes, only the front of his pant legs below the knee are wet, but they were rolling around. Seriously dude, stop making shiat up.
 
2013-06-25 11:09:57 PM

ongbok: Abuse Liability: Popcorn Johnny: Abuse Liability: Are those grass stains on his knees? Its almost as if he was kneeling on top of someone.

Look at his pants below the knee, especially on the left leg. Only the front half of the pant leg is wet, clear evidence that he was kneeling in the wet grass.

Yeah, you posted so quickly I repeat posted you essentially. Good to see we both came to the same conclusion. Damn sad though. Being young and stupid shouldn't be a death sentence. shiatty circumstances are shiatty

All that shows is there was a fight and they were rolling around, and at one point he was on top  which we all know.


Yes, it's just one more piece of evidence consistent with Zimmerman's story.  To go along with the rest of the physical evidence that goes along with it.  And still none that contradicts it.  That is truly damning.
 
2013-06-25 11:09:58 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: ongbok: All that shows is there was a fight and they were rolling around, and at one point he was on top  which we all know.

Which means that there can be no proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman's story isn't accurate.  Not guilty.


Game set match. Good night everyone, tip your waitresses.
 
2013-06-25 11:11:45 PM

gimmegimme: Satanic_Hamster: gimmegimme: Do the Icy Hot Stuntaz deserve to die?

boingboing.net

Throwin' gang signs!

You're not really helping your case.   I think even a Quaker would shoot that guy, given a chance.

Better?

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///Darn it, they always get away...



White Chicks and Gang Signs
 
2013-06-25 11:14:20 PM
Popcorn Johnny:

Well then, you're behind the times.

NSFW uncensored death photo



I wish I hadn't clicked on that. I've tried to stay relatively detached from this case emotionally. But that was hard to look at.

I don't envy this jury.
 
2013-06-25 11:17:03 PM

Abuse Liability: Are those grass stains on his knees? Its almost as if he was kneeling on top of someone.


gz has already admitted to throwing tm face down, sitting on top of him, and holding his arms. this easily explains the grass stains on the front of tm's clothing all by itself.
the back of gz clothings, however, is pristine. just sayin'
 
2013-06-25 11:17:25 PM

Popcorn Johnny: ongbok: All that shows is there was a fight and they were rolling around, and at one point he was on top  which we all know.

Yes, only the front of his pant legs below the knee are wet, but they were rolling around. Seriously dude, stop making shiat up.


Zimmerman's back doesn't have any grass stains or mud on them and neither do his pants despite the fact he was on his back. So I guess that didn't happen either right?
 
2013-06-25 11:18:09 PM

CliChe Guevara: gz has already admitted to throwing tm face down, sitting on top of him, and holding his arms. this easily explains the grass stains on the front of tm's clothing all by itself.
the back of gz clothings, however, is pristine. just sayin'


And with this little nugget of bullshiat, I'm off to bed.
 
2013-06-25 11:19:23 PM

CliChe Guevara: Abuse Liability: Are those grass stains on his knees? Its almost as if he was kneeling on top of someone.

gz has already admitted to throwing tm face down, sitting on top of him, and holding his arms. this easily explains the grass stains on the front of tm's clothing all by itself.
the back of gz clothings, however, is pristine. just sayin'


Just below the knees but not above? And zimms clothes were photographed after they had dried. Try again.
 
2013-06-25 11:21:17 PM

Abuse Liability: ongbok: Abuse Liability: ongbok: Abuse Liability: bugontherug: Phinn: The anti-Zimmerman crowd is basically relying on a "yada yada yada" theory for the prosecution.

"Zimmerman saw a black teenager who wasn't doing anything wrong, but he followed the teen unfairly, and yada yada yada, he ended up dead."

You're all basically a walking Seinfeld joke.

Don't get your hopes up.

Sorry, sparky. I saw you trying to use the girlfriend's statement above too. And if now suddenly the girlfriend is credible, Zimmerman is fried.

"Why are you following me?" Present tense.

By the girlfriends admission he lost him. He's speaking in the present tense assuming zim was still trying to sniff him out and follow him. He wasn't aware zim was essentially waiting on the cops he called. I mean if you're trying to engage and shoot a child, its probably best not to give the cops so much notice they nearly catch you in the act

How was Zimmerman waiting on the cops when he wouldn't give the cops the location he was at?

He said he would tell them when they got there. He thought martin was 'still around'. Regardless, you expect us to believe he was planning on starting an altercation after he called police? Nothing quite like getting yourself arrested for assault. Oh wait. Conspiracy theory to divert attention from his true motive.

No I don't think he was planning on starting an altercation. I never said that. I always said that when Trayvon ran he got pissed and decided he was going to catch him because you know "These assholes always get away".

And also as the original investigator said, he had several opportunities to ask him as a concerned citizen what he was doing there before the situation escalated but didn't. He waited until the situation became confrontational one. He created that atmosphere.

Still no excuse for martins alleged behavior (based on evidence). My in-laws create hostile environments for me all the time but I don't assault them (even though I really want to).


So lets say your son is walking home one night and some guy is following him and watching him and not saying anything. Your child gets so freaked out they decide to run, but that person still follows them and eventually catches them. You wouldn't expect for your child to fight back?

Please stop ignoring the fact that Trayvon ran and tried to avoid the situation and Zimmerman continued to push it.
 
2013-06-25 11:22:21 PM

ongbok: Popcorn Johnny: ongbok: All that shows is there was a fight and they were rolling around, and at one point he was on top  which we all know.

Yes, only the front of his pant legs below the knee are wet, but they were rolling around. Seriously dude, stop making shiat up.

Zimmerman's back doesn't have any grass stains or mud on them and neither do his pants despite the fact he was on his back. So I guess that didn't happen either right?


He didn't have stains or wetness anywhere, I guess he wasn't even involved in the altercation at all.
 
2013-06-25 11:24:28 PM

CliChe Guevara: Abuse Liability: Are those grass stains on his knees? Its almost as if he was kneeling on top of someone.

gz has already admitted to throwing tm face down, sitting on top of him, and holding his arms. this easily explains the grass stains on the front of tm's clothing all by itself.
the back of gz clothings, however, is pristine. just sayin'


Strange, witness #6 saw TM on top of GZ with GZ laying on his back, and an officer at the scene described his clothing as wet and covered with grass.  It seems we don't have the same definition of "pristine".
 
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