BarkingUnicorn: Prayer's goal is to amplify the power of thoughts.
RedT: Especially when agnostics think they are atheists.
Alonjar: I'm actually agnostic, but I almost never use the word because I find when I mention that I am agnostic, both religious and atheist people turn and combine their outrage together at me
TheOriginalEd: Honestly I think the people in this thread are painting an unfair portrait of this guy. Sounds more to me like the washpo didnt really get that a fairly clever guy got around a stupid requirement that most self help programs require (forced religion) and lipserviced a fake god he made up. I dont think that he's an atheist who needs the divine in his life.. I think the washpo doesnt understand the idiocy of labels.
NoGods: Whenever someone asks me if I believe in a higher power I tell them, "Yes, the planet Jupiter is a higher power that I can believe in. There's nothing magical or supernatural about it. It's just higher and more powerful than me."
Alonjar: RedT: Especially when agnostics think they are atheists.I'm actually agnostic, but I almost never use the word because I find when I mention that I am agnostic, both religious and atheist people turn and combine their outrage together at me. Its like a common ground they both find with each other. "Psh.. thats just intellectually lazy"......wut? Really??!?!
Mercutio74: Also, FTFA:Atheists deny religion's claim of a supernatural god but are starting to look more closely at the "very real effect" that practices such as going to church, prayer and observance of a Sabbath have on the lives of the religious, said Paul Fidalgo, a spokesman for the secular advocacy group the Center for Inquiry. "That's a big hole in atheist life," he said. "Some atheists are saying, 'Let's fill it.' Others are saying, 'Let's not.' "That's an interesting claim. I'm an atheist and have been since about grade 3. I wonder if the "hole" this guy (who I guess is an "expert" on atheists?) talks about is easily filled by volunteering your time to a cause and/or belonging to some kind of social organization. I really don't know any fellow non-believers who say, "You know what we need? Social interaction bound together by pointless ritual!"
nulluspixiusdemonica: BarkingUnicorn: Prayer's goal is to amplify the power of thoughts.Right.... So that's what pointless discussions with imaginary friends do... "amplify the power of thoughts"...
mortimer_ford: Aarontology: I have another three letter G word I credit for helping me lose weight. The gym.Psalm: 26
NostroZ: Alonjar: RedT: Especially when agnostics think they are atheists.I'm actually agnostic, but I almost never use the word because I find when I mention that I am agnostic, both religious and atheist people turn and combine their outrage together at me. Its like a common ground they both find with each other. "Psh.. thats just intellectually lazy"......wut? Really??!?!Totally agree with you my agnostic friend. I find it emotionally lazy and intellectually dishonest to be an atheist, since one cannot posit a certainty (there is no G-d) of a metaphysical concept.It's like people saying that only Newtonian physics is the way the world works and there is no need to explore subatomic physics of particles which behave much differently.As a human, I know my senses are limited to the five given to me and even those are weaker than a dog for smell or a reindeer for sight (they can see ultraviolet).It would be an emotional argument to anger believers to say that I know for sure that there is 'No G-d', since I cannot possibly know the universe. Therefore, I say what I do know, that 'I'm not certain if there is a G-d', which IS THE DEFINITION of being an agnostic.
jfivealive: I don't care who you are or what type of person you are or what you believe in, prayer works. And I can prove it.
Unoriginal_Username: mortimer_ford: Aarontology: I have another three letter G word I credit for helping me lose weight. The gym.Psalm: 26I've always been partial to Psalm: 69
BarkingUnicorn: Meditation's goal is to cease creating thoughts.
BarkingUnicorn: This thread is further testimony that strict materialists are the most shallow, closed-minded, unaware, and miserable of humans.
Farking Canuck: untaken_name: Atheism is the worst religion ever.Anvils are the worst boats ever.
t3knomanser: I believe in an ineffable, mysterious force. It holds the universe together, penetrates through all matter. It sets the stars alight and holds the planets in their spheres.It's called Gravity.
big pig peaches: There is actually research that shows that certain areas of the brain "light up" when praying or during other spiritual behavior. The human mind is basically hard wired for religion; finding meaning in the meaningless. So it makes sense that without religion some people would feel something was "missing".
RedPhoenix122: Praise the Sun!
rubi_con_man: Farking Canuck: untaken_name: Atheism is the worst religion ever.Anvils are the worst boats ever.I totally agree. Atheism - The common, shared belief that there is no God - is the worst belief system ever. (or is that system of disbelief?)Yes, Atheism is a Religion. An Exceptionally spare one, but certainly a belief system with at least one big article of faith : There is no God. Other articles of faith (depending on your personal creed) are : Theists are stupid, The Universe is like __________, and Atheism isn't a religion.Be well, Adherents of Atheism.
WI241TH: I had a being come to me yesterday who said, "come on, let's go to the gym" after a few weeks of procrastination. So I got in my brother's car and went. It's pretty amazing what even a small outside influence can do, if this guy had to create his own to get going I see no problem with that.The story does help fuel my idea that 12 step programs are borderline cults, though.
BarkingUnicorn: You don't know any non-believers who play golf, video games, or beer pong? None who get together to watch The Game on TV? None who attend concerts together? Everyone eats alone?
Monkeyhouse Zendo: BarkingUnicorn: Meditation's goal is to cease creating thoughts.That is neither the goal nor the process of meditation. Meditation comprises a vast number of practices and subjects but I can't say I've ever heard anyone who practices meditation claim that its goal is to cease creating thoughts. It's almost as if you have no idea what you're talking about and are parroting the words of someone else who is equally ignorant but that can't be since this is Fark.
MayoSlather: Makes sense. As an atheist myself, I still molest little boys so I don't lose touch with my heritage.
Infernalist: BarkingUnicorn: This thread is further testimony that strict materialists are the most shallow, closed-minded, unaware, and miserable of humans.I'm a secular humanist, thank you.
oryx: I don't think he's really an atheist. He's a self hating theist?
Alonjar: As an atheist, I must say I am highly confident that I would lead a much happier more fulfilling life if I could convince myself that there was a god, my place in the universe was "meant to be", and that I should be doing things for a higher purpose than stimulating my bodies receptors until they cease to function.Oh well.
reaperducer: Let's see... So far we've seen atheists compiling their own sacred books, gathering to listen to their prophets, trying to convert those who don't believe what they believe, gathering for weekly meetings, erecting idols to worship, and now they're praying.Nope, modern atheism isn't a religion at all.
bluefox3681: Alonjar: As an atheist, I must say I am highly confident that I would lead a much happier more fulfilling life if I could convince myself that there was a god, my place in the universe was "meant to be", and that I should be doing things for a higher purpose than stimulating my bodies receptors until they cease to function.Oh well.You see, that's the rub. Who are you then to try and change someone that does believe those things and as you put it "leads a much happier more fullfilling life."? Who are you to try and steal someone's purpose and happiness?This is why a lot of atheists come off as smug douche bags.
FarkinHostile: RedPhoenix122: Praise the Sun!I'm afraid you have it all wrong, RedPhoenix122, all of you. I've been monitoring some of their old-style radio waves, the empire spokesman trying to ridicule their religion. But he couldn't. Don't you understand? It's not the sun up in the sky. It's the Son of God!
Alonjar: Religious people are all part of a super awesome club that tons of other people are in... you get together and talk, have BBQs, faires and other fun social activities.
Alonjar: traditional community bonds that existed for millions of years.
Infernalist: Faith is believing in something absent of evidence.
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