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(Washington Post)   Meet Sigfried Gold, an atheist who credits losing 110 pounds and saving his family with praying three times a day to a "spiritual being" he created that he named "God." "That's a big hole in atheist life. Some atheists are saying, 'Let's fill it.'"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 216
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2013-06-25 08:28:37 AM  
Makes sense. As an atheist myself, I still molest little boys so I don't lose touch with my heritage.
 
2013-06-25 08:32:53 AM  
What in the 72 hells? My gods that makes no sense to me.
 
2013-06-25 08:34:47 AM  
I have another three letter G word I credit for helping me lose weight. The gym.
 
2013-06-25 08:39:03 AM  
Meh.  Whatever works for him, I guess.  Glad he lost weight.
 
2013-06-25 08:39:20 AM  
Yeah, I'm sure it had nothing to do with changing his diet and/or exercise habits. It was definitely the prayers to an imaginary goddess that did it for him.
 
2013-06-25 08:41:11 AM  
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2013-06-25 08:44:53 AM  
very vivid goddess he created

I like to create very vivid goddesses and "pray" to them myself.
 
2013-06-25 08:50:17 AM  
Also known as meditation, which also does not require faith in the supernatural.
 
2013-06-25 08:52:44 AM  
No, he credits it to an undertaking that has helped provide him with the structure, routine, daily affirmation and self-reflection necessary to permanently modify deeply-ingrained behaviors.
 
2013-06-25 08:56:30 AM  
How about.... no
 
2013-06-25 08:56:51 AM  
So.. I'm fat because of god? That's good. I was blaming laziness and beer.
 
2013-06-25 08:57:32 AM  
Praise the Sun!
 
2013-06-25 09:02:37 AM  
Prayer has never helped me with any of my hangovers.
 
2013-06-25 09:03:04 AM  

Aarontology: I have another three letter G word I credit for helping me lose weight. The gym.


Psalm: 26
 
2013-06-25 09:04:09 AM  
Um... okay...
 
2013-06-25 09:04:25 AM  
I don't care who you are or what type of person you are or what you believe in, prayer works.  And I can prove it.
 
2013-06-25 09:04:32 AM  
That's what she said?
 
2013-06-25 09:05:43 AM  
What the fark is this crap
 
2013-06-25 09:06:00 AM  

jfivealive: I don't care who you are or what type of person you are or what you believe in, prayer works.  And I can prove it.


1/10
 
2013-06-25 09:06:16 AM  
Atheism is the worst religion ever.
 
2013-06-25 09:06:20 AM  
So, basically, some atheists are as confused and stupid as some believers.
 
2013-06-25 09:07:04 AM  

Opus Croakus: Prayer has never helped me with any of my hangovers.


I spent my teens and early twenties bargaining with God that if he'd cure my hangover I'd never drink again.  He never came through so that's why I still drink.

It was a simple deal.  I guess he wanted me to keep up the drinking.
 
2013-06-25 09:07:44 AM  
Whatever gets you through the night, is alright.

/polytheist
 
2013-06-25 09:07:45 AM  

Babwa Wawa: Also known as meditation, which also does not require faith in the supernatural.


He framed his meditation as 'prayer' because that is what his 12 step program required.

Seems pretty stupid but I guess it worked for him.
 
2013-06-25 09:07:53 AM  
No "irony" tag?

Come on.
 
2013-06-25 09:08:38 AM  

untaken_name: Atheism is the worst religion ever.


Anvils are the worst boats ever.
 
2013-06-25 09:08:54 AM  

SphericalTime: What in the 72 hells? My gods that makes no sense to me.


It makes perfect sense if you accept that the only reason people do anything is because it makes them feel better.  There doesn't have to be logic or consistency to it.
 
2013-06-25 09:09:23 AM  
I like the statistics in the article that some atheists believe in god or a spiritual blame. Doesn't that make you exactly the opposite of atheist?
 
2013-06-25 09:09:58 AM  
I don't understand what's "missing". I suppose if you were forced into that ritual bullshiat as a child you'd find comfort in recreating a childhood memory, but otherwise I just don't get it.
 
2013-06-25 09:10:04 AM  
I mostly just pray to that waffle that's stuck to the ceiling.

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2013-06-25 09:11:15 AM  

mortimer_ford: Aarontology: I have another three letter G word I credit for helping me lose weight. The gym.

Psalm: 26


Psalm 11:16 for me.  Until I read that verse, I had no idea how many pleasures were at my right hand.  The weight loss is just a side benefit.
 
2013-06-25 09:12:04 AM  
Eighteen percent of atheists say religion has some importance in their life, 26 percent say they are spiritual or religious and 14 percent believe in "God or a universal spirit." Of all Americans who say they don't believe in God - not all call themselves "atheists" - 12 percent say they pray.

Very interesting.
 
2013-06-25 09:12:33 AM  

Farking Canuck: untaken_name: Atheism is the worst religion ever.

Anvils are the worst boats ever.


Science damn you!
 
2013-06-25 09:12:47 AM  
And the media continues to try and puzzle out what an atheist is.  Keep going you guys, you should have a good handle on the various species of atheism in another few decades.
 
2013-06-25 09:13:24 AM  
Atheism. YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.
 
2013-06-25 09:15:23 AM  

Babwa Wawa: Also known as meditation, which also does not require faith in the supernatural.


Meditation's goal is to cease creating thoughts. Prayer's goal is to amplify the power of thoughts.
 
2013-06-25 09:16:40 AM  
"I have great hopes that we shall learn in due time how to emotionalize and mythologize their science to such an extent that what is, in effect, a belief in us (though not under that name) will creep in while the human mind remains closed to belief in the Enemy. The 'Life Force' . . . may here prove useful.

If once we can produce our perfect work-the Materialist Magician, the man, not using, but veritably worshipping, what he vaguely calls 'Forces' while denying the existence of spirits-then the end of our war will be in sight."

                                                                             - C.S. Lewis
 
2013-06-25 09:16:43 AM  
Well I know SOMEONE who's not going to be eaten first.
 
2013-06-25 09:17:34 AM  
Joe Pesci could have helped him loose 100 pounds. It would probably involve getting his jaw broken with a baseball bat and having to feed by drinking fluids for a while. Sure it may seem a little extreme, but we shouldn't question Pesci's ways.
 
2013-06-25 09:18:12 AM  
As an atheist, I must say I am highly confident that I would lead a much happier more fulfilling life if I could convince myself that there was a god, my place in the universe was "meant to be",  and that I should be doing things for a higher purpose than stimulating my bodies receptors until they cease to function.

Oh well.
 
2013-06-25 09:18:12 AM  
Honestly I think the people in this thread are painting an unfair portrait of this guy. Sounds more to me like the washpo didnt really get that a fairly clever guy got around a stupid requirement that most self help programs require (forced religion) and lipserviced a fake god he made up. I dont think that he's an atheist who needs the divine in his life.. I think the washpo doesnt understand the idiocy of labels.
 
2013-06-25 09:18:23 AM  
Also, FTFA:

Atheists deny religion's claim of a supernatural god but are starting to look more closely at the "very real effect" that practices such as going to church, prayer and observance of a Sabbath have on the lives of the religious, said Paul Fidalgo, a spokesman for the secular advocacy group the Center for Inquiry. "That's a big hole in atheist life," he said. "Some atheists are saying, 'Let's fill it.' Others are saying, 'Let's not.' "

That's an interesting claim.  I'm an atheist and have been since about grade 3.  I wonder if the "hole" this guy (who I guess is an "expert" on atheists?) talks about is easily filled by volunteering your time to a cause and/or belonging to some kind of social organization.  I really don't know any fellow non-believers who say, "You know what we need?  Social interaction bound together by pointless ritual!"
 
2013-06-25 09:18:26 AM  

Raug the Dwarf: No "irony" tag?


No irony here.  Assuming this guy exists in the first place, it wouldn't be a stretch if this guy's story was either twisted or simply made up to push a sort of narrative that atheists are sad people with a gaping hole in their lives.  It's something Christians have been obsessing over for years -- they are incapable of comprehending that people can be functional and happy without Invisible Sky Fairy.  Their feeble brains would sooner break than accept that fact.

Mind you, even if every word of the article was true, it'd still warrant a big fat "meh".  The more troubling undertone is that the Washington Post saw fit to make a story out of some atheists half-hearted conversion, to be viewed as either a positive first step or proof that atheists are really just Christians in denial.  The only atheists that make the news are carefully selected to either enrage or vindicate the Christian base.  It's not a conspiracy so much as the media being mindful of its target audience.
 
2013-06-25 09:18:32 AM  

untaken_name: Atheism is the worst religion ever.


Especially when agnostics think they are atheists.
 
2013-06-25 09:18:41 AM  

Jack's Smirking Revenge: mortimer_ford: Aarontology: I have another three letter G word I credit for helping me lose weight. The gym.

Psalm: 26

Psalm 11:16 for me.  Until I read that verse, I had no idea how many pleasures were at my right hand.  The weight loss is just a side benefit.


If you're going to make (mildly) sacrilegious jokes, at least get your citations right; you're looking at Psalm 16:11, not 11:16.
 
2013-06-25 09:18:42 AM  
I'm not an atheist, but I believe most people who pray are really praying to themselves. They, supported by modern religious communities that eschew mysticism, mistake sitting down and being alone with yourself and hearing your inner-voice for hearing divinity. It's why when people pray and afterwards say "I think God wants me to do X," X is almost always what they wanted to do in the first place.

There's a lot of value in quieting your mind and meditating on something, but mistaking it for the voice of God leads to lots of crap, like opposition to gay marriage because they think it's what "God wants." No, your homophobic self just gets strangely aroused and grossed out by the thought of gay sex so you want it outlawed.
 
2013-06-25 09:19:49 AM  

hailin: I like the statistics in the article that some atheists believe in god or a spiritual blame. Doesn't that make you exactly the opposite of atheist?


Yes. By definition atheists don't believe in god. I guess you could still believe in supernatural forces which could be spiritual. If you believe in god you are not an atheist though.
 
2013-06-25 09:20:26 AM  
I don't think he's really an atheist. He's a self hating theist?
 
2013-06-25 09:21:02 AM  
Whenever someone asks me if I believe in a higher power I tell them, "Yes, the planet Jupiter is a higher power that I can believe in. There's nothing magical or supernatural about it. It's just higher and more powerful than me."
 
2013-06-25 09:22:30 AM  

GilRuiz1: Very interesting.


You never stop, do you?

I am an atheist.  Religion is very important in my life.

Wanna make something of it?

It is important because:

1) Religions are having an enormous impact on politics, nationally and globally, and that affects my daily life.  I'd have to be a farking imbecile not to acknowledge its "importance".

2) I'm a professional musician.  Churches write checks to me.  At varying points in my life, church pay has been 25-100% of my income.  You're damn straight religion is "important" to me.

I'm sure I am not alone in wishing that you'd get over this crusade/act of yours.  It's positively wearying.
 
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