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(IGN)   A look at Stephen King TV over the decades. M-O-O-N, that spells Langoliers   (ign.com) divider line 82
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2013-06-25 09:23:29 AM
I was surprised by how little Under the Dome sucked last night.
 
2013-06-25 09:26:06 AM

NuttierThanEver: I was surprised by how little Under the Dome sucked last night.


I liked it pretty well but Junior's subplot is already annoying and a mess. They could have done something interesting with that. But then King went out of his way to depict him as a drooling psychopath anyway. Still, a character arc before the crazy psycho killer nonsense would have been nice

(no that's not a spoiler, the show beats you over the head with it)
 
2013-06-25 09:49:45 AM
It was OK, but I already hate the teen boy who's parents aren't home.
 
2013-06-25 09:50:20 AM
I thought they did a pretty good job with it, gonna give it a couple more weeks.
 
2013-06-25 10:01:45 AM
Haven't seen under the dome yet, I'm hoping they put it on Hulu. Haven is actually quite good though.
 
2013-06-25 10:01:57 AM
OK... It's been a while since i read the book but i do not remember the story opening with Barbi burying a body...... Also, shouldn't he be wearing a baseball cap? I seem to recall he always wore one ITB.
 
2013-06-25 10:02:45 AM

Confabulat: I liked it pretty well but Junior's subplot is already annoying and a mess.


I was more confused by Barbie's storyline.  I never bought into the former Army guy/drifter turned hero (that change was far too quick in the book) but I'm not happy about...whatever the hell he's supposed to be now.

Also, I'm guessing Junior is going to take the place of Peter Randolph in the book.  Since King only had Randolph in there as a George Bush character to Big Jim's Cheney, and CBS may not want to go down that road in a mini-series that already has enough ground to cover, this would make sense.
 
2013-06-25 10:05:05 AM
while i haven't seen under the dome yet, my favorite on that list was salem's lot. it scared the holy hell out of me as a kid.
 
2013-06-25 10:07:30 AM

Strik3r: OK... It's been a while since i read the book but i do not remember the story opening with Barbi burying a body


He didn't.  The book starts out w/him working at the diner, getting beaten up by Junior & his friends, and deciding to leave Chester's Mill.  As he gets to the city limits, he sees the Dome come down when it cuts a groundhog or something in half.  ITB, Rennie frames him for his & Junior's murders, so I think maybe he'll get caught for Peter's in the mini-series.  Still not entirely happy about his character but I'll wait to see how it plays out.
 
2013-06-25 10:08:15 AM

Confabulat: NuttierThanEver: I was surprised by how little Under the Dome sucked last night.

I liked it pretty well but Junior's subplot is already annoying and a mess. They could have done something interesting with that. But then King went out of his way to depict him as a drooling psychopath anyway. Still, a character arc before the crazy psycho killer nonsense would have been nice

(no that's not a spoiler, the show beats you over the head with it)


yeah that was a seriously weak link in an otherwise decent start to a mini-series
 
2013-06-25 10:09:16 AM
Gawd the langoliers was bad.
 
2013-06-25 10:09:41 AM

mjones73: I thought they did a pretty good job with it, gonna give it a couple more weeks.


Haven't watched it yet, have it on the DVR. Hope it works out OK. TV is getting to be a little more King-friendly, more of the stuff in his books could make it into a miniseries that would air on the standard networks, and pretty much all of it could make it onto the cable networks, now that they've started testing the boundaries and found people willing to pay attention to the ratings, and not watch stuff that might offend their sensibilities.

This was a longer list than I was even aware of, and had a few I'd forgotten about, such as 'Salem's Lot. All in all, this is a really good list(especially considering the quality of your standard "list" on the internet.

It's always been tough to do King's work. You can't cram it all into a 2-hour movie, especially with stuff like The Stand. Obviously, there have been some exceptions, like The Shining, Firestarter, Cujo... Usually, it needs to be something like a miniseries on TV, and back in the day, they were just too skittish, even on cable, which isn't regulated by the FCC. Now, everything's loosening up, so I have more optimism that things will be decent.

And personally, I liked Kubrik's Shining far better than the one with the dude from Wings. The only thing that I thought was good about the Sci Fi one was that they put the topiary in. Otherwise, Kubrik brought the book to life just fine, IMHO(Except using the croquet mallet in the book was far cooler than an axe), King says that the movie seemed to be more about the evil Overlook hotel, and not enough about Jack battling his inner demons, and the hotel just using that as leverage, but I don't see that.
 
2013-06-25 10:11:03 AM
Bring back the Nightmares & Dreamscapes series. Well, this time call it "Full Dark, No Stars" or "Everything's Eventual."

No wait, just do all the short stories from Night Shift as a series. I'd love to see Battleground or Last Rung on the Ladder.
 
2013-06-25 10:12:09 AM
I thought about watching it, but wound up watching Warehouse 13 instead.  Poor Claudia.
 
2013-06-25 10:12:48 AM

brigid_fitch: Also, I'm guessing Junior is going to take the place of Peter Randolph

Andy Sanders in the book. Since King only had Randolph Sanders in there as a George Bush character to Big Jim's Cheney, and CBS may not want to go down that road in a mini-series that already has enough ground to cover, this would make sense.

FTFM

/Been a while since I read the book and got the names confused.
 
2013-06-25 10:14:54 AM
I was almost sure Dome was going to suck. Then they split a cow in half.
/I'm on board
 
2013-06-25 10:14:58 AM

Fano: Full Dark, No Stars


God, that was good. I listened to the audiobook after having read it, and the two that Jessica Hecht did were amazeballs.
 
2013-06-25 10:22:02 AM

strangeguitar: I was almost sure Dome was going to suck. Then they split a cow in half.
/I'm on board


That was pretty cool, the way it slid down the dome...
 
2013-06-25 10:24:44 AM

Piizzadude: Confabulat: NuttierThanEver: I was surprised by how little Under the Dome sucked last night.

I liked it pretty well but Junior's subplot is already annoying and a mess. They could have done something interesting with that. But then King went out of his way to depict him as a drooling psychopath anyway. Still, a character arc before the crazy psycho killer nonsense would have been nice

(no that's not a spoiler, the show beats you over the head with it)

yeah that was a seriously weak link in an otherwise decent start to a mini-series


I think the guy on ew.com or somewhere said it best (I paraphrase): "There's nothing more annoying in sci-fi than when a character ignores amazing, historical, life-changing events to deal with his own issues."
 
2013-06-25 10:29:21 AM

Confabulat: Piizzadude: Confabulat: NuttierThanEver: I was surprised by how little Under the Dome sucked last night.

I liked it pretty well but Junior's subplot is already annoying and a mess. They could have done something interesting with that. But then King went out of his way to depict him as a drooling psychopath anyway. Still, a character arc before the crazy psycho killer nonsense would have been nice

(no that's not a spoiler, the show beats you over the head with it)

yeah that was a seriously weak link in an otherwise decent start to a mini-series

I think the guy on ew.com or somewhere said it best (I paraphrase): "There's nothing more annoying in sci-fi than when a character ignores amazing, historical, life-changing events to deal with his own issues."


Network Suit: "But it makes them RELATEABLE!"

I never went to any writing workshops, so I don't know from good storytelling. But somehow an alien invasion shouldn't be pushed to the background so that a character can angst about not making the swim team in 8th grade.
 
2013-06-25 10:29:23 AM

Thank You Black Jesus!: Gawd the langoliers was bad.


We need to get home!  Pac Man's family is eating the air and we can't taste anything and Bronson Pinchot's a jerk.  The end.
It did suck.
 
2013-06-25 10:36:05 AM

brigid_fitch: Strik3r: OK... It's been a while since i read the book but i do not remember the story opening with Barbi burying a body

He didn't.  The book starts out w/him working at the diner, getting beaten up by Junior & his friends, and deciding to leave Chester's Mill.  As he gets to the city limits, he sees the Dome come down when it cuts a groundhog or something in half.  ITB, Rennie frames him for his & Junior's murders, so I think maybe he'll get caught for Peter's in the mini-series.  Still not entirely happy about his character but I'll wait to see how it plays out.


Ahhhh... yes. Thanks for the reminder.  Though this does sort of set Barbie as potential bad guy (or it least, it makes us question whether he's a good or bad guy).....  That first encounter ITB sets Junior up as the psyco-dickwad and leans Barbie more towards a good guy (or at least you begin to yearn for Barbie to kick his ass before too long).


/I get the feeling that SK has been watching GoT for some reason. I'm wondering if they're going to try a "new" formula (copied from GoT) where there isn't really a hero........
 
2013-06-25 10:36:29 AM

Fano: Bring back the Nightmares & Dreamscapes series. Well, this time call it "Full Dark, No Stars" or "Everything's Eventual."

No wait, just do all the short stories from Night Shift as a series. I'd love to see Battleground or Last Rung on the Ladder.


Was Battleground the one with the toy soldiers?  Because Nightmares and Dreamscapes covered it. Pretty well, too.

I still have to watch Under the Dome. It's sitting on my DVR. I'm optimistic, but worried that it's still an open series. For people saying it's a mini series, that's not certain yet. If it does well, CBS is planning on keeping it going. I feel like that would be a huge mistake.
 
2013-06-25 10:55:49 AM

Nana's Vibrator: Thank You Black Jesus!: Gawd the langoliers was bad.

We need to get home!  Pac Man's family is eating the air and we can't taste anything and Bronson Pinchot's a jerk.  The end.
It did suck.


Well, there was also the toaster-flail. That's gotta count for something. And David Morse. Right?
 
2013-06-25 11:09:19 AM
The `Simpson's did it' syndrome - I couldn't get over it. Sorry, Jeff.
 
2013-06-25 11:12:28 AM

oldfarthenry: The `Simpson's did it' syndrome - I couldn't get over it. Sorry, Jeff.


Pffft...wait until you get to the Star Trek ending.

/Great story, good characters but, like every other Stephen King book, it's got a stupid ending.
 
2013-06-25 11:18:16 AM

brigid_fitch: oldfarthenry: The `Simpson's did it' syndrome - I couldn't get over it. Sorry, Jeff.

Pffft...wait until you get to the Star Trek ending.

/Great story, good characters but, like every other Stephen King book, it's got a stupid ending.


Wait....... you've seen the ending of the series that aired it's first installment last night ????????????

/c'mon man, everybody knows the movie/series will be nothing like the book......
// ....true that SK is the exec producer....
 
2013-06-25 12:52:58 PM
SSDD
 
2013-06-25 12:54:49 PM

brigid_fitch: oldfarthenry: The `Simpson's did it' syndrome - I couldn't get over it. Sorry, Jeff.

Pffft...wait until you get to the Star Trek ending.

/Great story, good characters but, like every other Stephen King book, it's got a stupid ending.


The producers have already said they ditched King's dumbass ending.
 
2013-06-25 12:59:19 PM

Strik3r: brigid_fitch: oldfarthenry: The `Simpson's did it' syndrome - I couldn't get over it. Sorry, Jeff.

Pffft...wait until you get to the Star Trek ending.

/Great story, good characters but, like every other Stephen King book, it's got a stupid ending.

Wait....... you've seen the ending of the series that aired it's first installment last night ????????????

/c'mon man, everybody knows the movie/series will be nothing like the book......
// ....true that SK is the exec producer....


Oh, I thought you meant you didn't READ it because "Simpsons did it".  I obviously don't know how the series is going to end.

Confabulat: The producers have already said they ditched King's dumbass ending.


THANK GOD!!
 
2013-06-25 01:00:05 PM
As someone who has just finished reading the book for a second time, I guess I'm pretty much destined to be one of the show's harshest critics, but man... I don't know. I knew there would be changes for the TV show, including the ending (which is a good thing), but they changed a ridiculous amount of material in just the first episode. Some of the changes are minor things, but some are pretty major changes that I think could really end up hurting the show in the long run. Without spoiling anything from the book (just in case)...

-WTF was Dale Barbara doing at the beginning of the episode?
-Rusty Everett's not even in the dome at all.
-WCIK... independent rock and roll station run by a clean cut Phil Bushey?
-Duke Perkins was more involved in certain "things".
-Junior and Dale seem like they just met... a lot of what happens in the book is driven by what happened before the dome.
-And Junior in general... I'm not sure this is really going to work out.
-It sure doesn't look like Andrea Grinell is going to have anywhere near as important of a role to play in the TV show.

I know it's my own fault for not being able to separate what happens in the book from what might happen in the TV show, but I was really disappointed in the first episode last night. I'll probably give it a couple more weeks to win me over since there's nothing else on at the moment, but as of now I'm skeptical.
 
2013-06-25 01:02:56 PM

Confabulat: brigid_fitch: oldfarthenry: The `Simpson's did it' syndrome - I couldn't get over it. Sorry, Jeff.

Pffft...wait until you get to the Star Trek ending.

/Great story, good characters but, like every other Stephen King book, it's got a stupid ending.

The producers have already said they ditched King's dumbass ending.


I just hope that we get an ending.  On the one hand, I'd love for the show to turn out well and be successful.  On the other, if it gets drawn out indefinitely, it would end up treading water just to keep the show going.  I would have been happier if CBS had simply ordered it as a one-off miniseries than an open series.

I just finished watching the premiere and got to say that I'm liking how it's going so far.  I'm just hoping that the character that looked dead isn't dead (I'm not going to spoil it on here any more than that).
 
2013-06-25 01:03:55 PM
I cannot believe I forgot about Dome.  I hope Hulu streams it so I can watch the whole thing
 
2013-06-25 01:05:07 PM

gas giant: SSDD


No bounce, no play. The movie wasn't that bad.

NKURyan: As someone who has just finished reading the book for a second time, I guess I'm pretty much destined to be one of the show's harshest critics, but man... I don't know. I knew there would be changes for the TV show, including the ending (which is a good thing), but they changed a ridiculous amount of material in just the first episode. Some of the changes are minor things, but some are pretty major changes that I think could really end up hurting the show in the long run. Without spoiling anything from the book (just in case)...

-WTF was Dale Barbara doing at the beginning of the episode?
-Rusty Everett's not even in the dome at all.
-WCIK... independent rock and roll station run by a clean cut Phil Bushey?
-Duke Perkins was more involved in certain "things".
-Junior and Dale seem like they just met... a lot of what happens in the book is driven by what happened before the dome.
-And Junior in general... I'm not sure this is really going to work out.
-It sure doesn't look like Andrea Grinell is going to have anywhere near as important of a role to play in the TV show.

I know it's my own fault for not being able to separate what happens in the book from what might happen in the TV show, but I was really disappointed in the first episode last night. I'll probably give it a couple more weeks to win me over since there's nothing else on at the moment, but as of now I'm skeptical.


I didn't watch it all (watched the third period of Game 6), but what I did see, those were the changes that I found to be the most WTF?
 
2013-06-25 01:35:36 PM
Just finished reading the book, as in, just finished it like 2 hours ago.  Really enjoyed it and yes, really liked the ending too.


Spoilers ahead for those who haven't read the book!!!  Please don't read if you don't want to ruin the series for yourselves!!!


I haven't watched this first ep yet but just some thoughts about one character in particular I see getting mentioned a fair bit in here.  For me, junior was never the real threat or evil.  For me he represented the one potential weakness in Big Jim's plans.  Not only that but he was also a clear way to show how Big Jim really did only care about Big Jim, not even family (how many times he knew something was seriously wrong with junior but just ignored that in favor of his own master plan).

Junior was basically a bad guy, but not necessarily someone who would have been a killer, going crazy from a brain tumor.  His progression from spontaneous violence to complete breakdown showed that he was a real wildcard.  Dangerous to anyone and everyone.  In the end I even felt a little sorry for him too.  How different would things have turned out for him if he hadn't had the brain tumor.  He was only a small town bully to begin with and really, would he have ever been much more than that?
 
2013-06-25 01:49:43 PM

NKURyan: Rusty Everett's not even in the dome at all.


I am thinking that at some point he will be
 
2013-06-25 01:52:45 PM
Side note:

Way back before all the bullshiat, I would have thought that "Rage" would have made a great movie with the right cast.

//add that to the list of "Never gonna happen"
 
2013-06-25 02:00:58 PM

ReapTheChaos: Haven't seen under the dome yet, I'm hoping they put it on Hulu. Haven is actually quite good though.


It is actually on CBS.com if you want to watch the first episode.  http://www.cbs.com/shows/under-the-dome/video
 
2013-06-25 02:01:35 PM

NKURyan: As someone who has just finished reading the book for a second time, I guess I'm pretty much destined to be one of the show's harshest critics, but man... I don't know. I knew there would be changes for the TV show, including the ending (which is a good thing), but they changed a ridiculous amount of material in just the first episode. Some of the changes are minor things, but some are pretty major changes that I think could really end up hurting the show in the long run. Without spoiling anything from the book (just in case)...

-WTF was Dale Barbara doing at the beginning of the episode?
-Rusty Everett's not even in the dome at all.
-WCIK... independent rock and roll station run by a clean cut Phil Bushey?
-Duke Perkins was more involved in certain "things".
-Junior and Dale seem like they just met... a lot of what happens in the book is driven by what happened before the dome.
-And Junior in general... I'm not sure this is really going to work out.
-It sure doesn't look like Andrea Grinell is going to have anywhere near as important of a role to play in the TV show.

I know it's my own fault for not being able to separate what happens in the book from what might happen in the TV show, but I was really disappointed in the first episode last night. I'll probably give it a couple more weeks to win me over since there's nothing else on at the moment, but as of now I'm skeptical.


i think it'll be a reveal that, no, he didn't kill Julia's wife (which is new, she wasn't married in the book) - some kind of accident or framing so he decided to haul ass out of town. I think it would've been perfectly fine to keep his subplot from the book, but they may be going for a bad, mysterious man turns it around and leads the underdogs to victory - more cliche but easier to play off of, I guess?

I read the book last year and my wife's reading it now. She was about 100 pages in before the first episode and I told her it will be fine, no surprises - but they really messed around with it a bit. Oh well.

Some of the actors are just terribad, like the kid - Ollie Dinsmore? - but Barbie is pretty good and of course Dean Norris is the man. Not how I pictured Junior - should have a bigger build.

CGI is pretty good, though it still has that network TV sheen - thank God it's gotten better since The Langoliers.
 
2013-06-25 02:19:47 PM

Piizzadude: Side note:

Way back before all the bullshiat, I would have thought that "Rage" would have made a great movie with the right cast.

//add that to the list of "Never gonna happen"


I agree.

I remember finding that book in my HS library some time in  the 90's....  fun times.
 
2013-06-25 02:20:59 PM
Whar "Long Walk?"  WHAR!!!
 
2013-06-25 02:21:23 PM

IwasKloot: Some of the actors are just terribad, like the kid - Ollie Dinsmore?


Say it ain't so.  He was one of my favorite characters in the end.  I hope they haven't messed his character too much.
 
2013-06-25 02:53:46 PM

The sound of one hand clapping: He was only a small town bully to begin with and really, would he have ever been much more than that?


I had no problem w/Junior's progression in the book, especially when you add in his posse/mob.  Give a small-town bully a gun and full authority and, yeah, he's going to be pretty damn evil.   Take away the brain tumor and the transformation would have taken maybe a bit longer but most of what he did would have happened, anyway.  Maybe he wouldn't have had sex w/Angie's corpse but accidentally killing her & then Dodee for discovering him?  Yeah, don't need a brain tumor for that.  Just your megalomaniacal, murdering Dad's full blessing behind you.
 
2013-06-25 02:59:53 PM
The Langoliers has got to be one of the worst movies ever made. EVER. "Did you hear that? We're the new people!" Ugh
 
2013-06-25 03:05:08 PM

Saiga410: Piizzadude: Side note:

Way back before all the bullshiat, I would have thought that "Rage" would have made a great movie with the right cast.

//add that to the list of "Never gonna happen"

I agree.

I remember finding that book in my HS library some time in  the 90's....  fun times.


A school I sometimes did substitute teaching at (thankfully not that day) had a very different experience w/the story "Rage"

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2000-06-12/news/0006110304_1_gun-vi ol ence-children-bag

The article is really one-sided and the kid's motivations are reported wrong, but it's the only one I can find of that incident.  The kid expressed to the class over & over (the teacher herself & all the students told me this) that he didn't mean them any harm.  He felt he was going crazy and needed help, so got the idea from the Stephen King story to hold them hostage in hopes of getting psychiatric attention before he did anything he'd regret.  The Vice Principal *did* rush in & tackle him at an opportune time but everyone was simply waiting for the cops & a psychiatrist to show up & escort him out.

/CSB
 
2013-06-25 03:11:35 PM
I'm about 320 pages into the book and thought there were a number of pretty big differences.  I know it has to be TV friendly so I guess I just have to deal with the differences.

Was I not reading the book and watched the show, I would keep watching, so I'll keep watching.
 
2013-06-25 03:16:15 PM

Piizzadude: Side note:

Way back before all the bullshiat, I would have thought that "Rage" would have made a great movie with the right cast.

//add that to the list of "Never gonna happen"


Still waiting for my Running Man, Road Work, and Long Walk movies. Never gonna happen. Sigh. King can't end a book? Tell that to the Running Man, it was a blast!
 
2013-06-25 03:32:59 PM

Fano: Piizzadude: Side note:

Way back before all the bullshiat, I would have thought that "Rage" would have made a great movie with the right cast.

//add that to the list of "Never gonna happen"

Still waiting for my Running Man, Road Work, and Long Walk movies. Never gonna happen. Sigh. King can't end a book? Tell that to the Running Man, it was a blast!


I can accept that we'll never get a completely faithful adaptation of Running Man post-9/11.  I would be fine if they want to change the ending a bit to get it made if it meant getting a proper adaptation of the rest of the book.  I love the campiness of the Arnold version, but I would really like to serious a serious take on the novel.
 
2013-06-25 03:56:08 PM
After finally reading the article, I'm surprised it didn't make any mention of Storm of the Century.  I've always thought it was easily one of the better Stephen King TV projects.  It probably helped that it wasn't a story adaptation, but was meant to work as a television production from the beginning.
 
2013-06-25 03:58:23 PM

NeoCortex42: After finally reading the article, I'm surprised it didn't make any mention of Storm of the Century.  I've always thought it was easily one of the better Stephen King TV projects.  It probably helped that it wasn't a story adaptation, but was meant to work as a television production from the beginning.


I DRTFA, but did it mention Rose Red? Because I remember watching and enjoying the heck out of that one.
 
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