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(Forbes)   "Hot Dog vendors make up to $100,000 a year" Surprisingly not a euphemism   (forbes.com) divider line 48
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2013-06-25 08:49:41 AM
"Wait a minute...You're not the guy who delivers the rat droppings!"
 
2013-06-25 08:52:32 AM
Is that before or after the licensing fees they have to make to the city?

//site is taking forever to open up.
 
2013-06-25 08:53:54 AM
[Confederacy of Dunces-related comment.]
 
2013-06-25 08:54:11 AM
How about the web programmer who moves the screen up 10 pixels every time I click on the arrow so that after 4 clicks I have to move my mouse? How much does that farkwit make?
 
2013-06-25 08:55:11 AM
How much do people who resubmit old links make?
 
2013-06-25 08:58:27 AM
I guess we're supposed to care because hot-dog vendors are working stiff peons who shouldn't hope to make a decent living through owning and operating their own business? Well, goddamnit, then, hot-dog vendors should be living in shacks nine people to a room and should give free sauerkraut to any Job Creator who asks for it. Show them who's boss!
 
2013-06-25 09:00:07 AM
He's coming for ya
He's gonna get ya
Attack of the wiener man!
 
2013-06-25 09:02:22 AM
Nice advertisement that never ends. Next.
 
2013-06-25 09:03:42 AM
Now, imagine if twenty other people saw that you were making $100k peddling hot dogs in this spot. How much would you make when they all show up?

Then you understand why I hate competition. I literally made $100k net one year. Now I'm doing well to clear $40k due to parasites. Man, I hate the fact the tech in my business got easier.
 
2013-06-25 09:04:30 AM
How do you have a range for an average?

Besides, if you work say 16 hours a day at a hot dog stand (max possible for a person I think) 6 days a week, you got to make only about $20 an hour, continuously.

I have not seen hot dog stands with more than one person at a time running it. Given that, may be you can make a max of 60 hot dogs an hour, with all the preps and everything that goes with it, not to mention you would need a steady line of customers at all times. Even then you have to make $0.33 cent of profit per hot dog.

I call bullshiat.
 
2013-06-25 09:10:41 AM
It's probably like a 200% profit on the hot dogs and sodas. Maybe less for pretzels and kinishes. There's no overhead plus they probably buy in wholesale.
 
2013-06-25 09:17:27 AM
The slideshow mentions Genetic Counselor. Never heard of that one. I assume a good one would say "Please, just don't reproduce." at least ten times a day.
 
GBB
2013-06-25 09:20:51 AM

Arkanaut: Is that before or after the licensing fees they have to make to the city?

//site is taking forever to open up.


don't forget the "rent" on that spot.   And, protection.
 
2013-06-25 09:24:57 AM

GBB: Arkanaut: Is that before or after the licensing fees they have to make to the city?

//site is taking forever to open up.

don't forget the "rent" on that spot.   And, protection.


How much is protection these days? Like 4 hot dogs now?
 
2013-06-25 09:28:31 AM

mayIFark: Even then you have to make $0.33 cent of profit per hot dog.


That's actually very low for an estimate.

/but I was told there'd be no math
 
2013-06-25 09:30:37 AM
Yeah but then you have to smell like hot dogs all the time. No thanks.
 
2013-06-25 09:38:09 AM
One of my former co-workers dropped out of IT because of the stress and started selling hotdogs...
He's pulling in good money and at almost zero stress...
 
2013-06-25 09:43:38 AM
As long as you clearly understand that the phrase "up to" includes the number "nought".
 
2013-06-25 09:43:44 AM
i162.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-25 09:44:05 AM
Working 7 days a week will do that.
 
2013-06-25 09:44:34 AM
hmm, an all cash business .. how much do they take home ?
 
2013-06-25 09:49:40 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: How about the web programmer who moves the screen up 10 pixels every time I click on the arrow so that after 4 clicks I have to move my mouse? How much does that farkwit make?


Get a touchscreen and join the 21st century.
 
2013-06-25 09:53:14 AM

mayIFark: How do you have a range for an average?

Besides, if you work say 16 hours a day at a hot dog stand (max possible for a person I think) 6 days a week, you got to make only about $20 an hour, continuously.

I have not seen hot dog stands with more than one person at a time running it. Given that, may be you can make a max of 60 hot dogs an hour, with all the preps and everything that goes with it, not to mention you would need a steady line of customers at all times. Even then you have to make $0.33 cent of profit per hot dog.

I call bullshiat.


Hot dogs cost like $0.30 each. Have you seen what they charge for them?
 
2013-06-25 09:54:20 AM

OregonVet: mayIFark: Even then you have to make $0.33 cent of profit per hot dog.

That's actually very low for an estimate.

/but I was told there'd be no math


That was just part of the assessment. You have to get that profit every minute for 16 hours a day straight for 6 days a week.

I simply do not think that is possible.
 
2013-06-25 09:57:12 AM

wildcardjack: Now, imagine if twenty other people saw that you were making $100k peddling hot dogs in this spot. How much would you make when they all show up?

Then you understand why I hate competition. I literally made $100k net one year. Now I'm doing well to clear $40k due to parasites. Man, I hate the fact the tech in my business got easier.


tinyviolin.jpg

adapt or die, whiney baby.
 
2013-06-25 10:00:53 AM

Mad Morf: One of my former co-workers dropped out of IT because of the stress and started selling hotdogs...
He's pulling in good money and at almost zero stress...


The thought has crossed my mind.  If I could jump into something like road construction and make the same pay without working 100 hours a week, I might consider it.
 
2013-06-25 10:24:07 AM

mayIFark: How do you have a range for an average?

Besides, if you work say 16 hours a day at a hot dog stand (max possible for a person I think) 6 days a week, you got to make only about $20 an hour, continuously.

I have not seen hot dog stands with more than one person at a time running it. Given that, may be you can make a max of 60 hot dogs an hour, with all the preps and everything that goes with it, not to mention you would need a steady line of customers at all times. Even then you have to make $0.33 cent of profit per hot dog.

I call bullshiat.


I can get a pack of 50 hot dogs for $10 at Costco, I don't know how much buns cost. That is $0.20 per hot dog. I'm sure they are buying much more so they are paying even less than that per hot dog. I'm fairly certain they are making far more than $0.33 profit per dog especially when they are charging $2-3 a dog.
 
2013-06-25 10:26:57 AM
I told a married couple their kids are going to be hideous looking, but smart. Am I a genetic counselor?
 
2013-06-25 10:31:51 AM

Barnstormer: The slideshow mentions Genetic Counselor. Never heard of that one. I assume a good one would say "Please, just don't reproduce." at least ten times a day.


I actually just had a meeting with a genetic counselor.  They meet with pregnant women 35+ to explain risks and options.  It was an interesting meeting because we thought we didn't need an amnio due to newer tests but she almost convinced us to get one anyways
 
2013-06-25 11:02:11 AM

UberDave: Mad Morf: One of my former co-workers dropped out of IT because of the stress and started selling hotdogs...
He's pulling in good money and at almost zero stress...

The thought has crossed my mind.  If I could jump into something like road construction and make the same pay without working 100 hours a week, I might consider it.


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2013-06-25 11:13:07 AM

mayIFark: OregonVet: mayIFark: Even then you have to make $0.33 cent of profit per hot dog.

That's actually very low for an estimate.

/but I was told there'd be no math

That was just part of the assessment. You have to get that profit every minute for 16 hours a day straight for 6 days a week.

I simply do not think that is possible.


Wait, your estimate of earnings per dog is horrible and required 60 sales per hour, yet you don't even stop to rethink the totals knowing that?

Also your estimate ignored soda.
 
2013-06-25 11:13:48 AM
Also, I'll have the crab juice.
 
2013-06-25 11:14:34 AM

ongbok: mayIFark: How do you have a range for an average?

Besides, if you work say 16 hours a day at a hot dog stand (max possible for a person I think) 6 days a week, you got to make only about $20 an hour, continuously.

I have not seen hot dog stands with more than one person at a time running it. Given that, may be you can make a max of 60 hot dogs an hour, with all the preps and everything that goes with it, not to mention you would need a steady line of customers at all times. Even then you have to make $0.33 cent of profit per hot dog.

I call bullshiat.

I can get a pack of 50 hot dogs for $10 at Costco, I don't know how much buns cost. That is $0.20 per hot dog. I'm sure they are buying much more so they are paying even less than that per hot dog. I'm fairly certain they are making far more than $0.33 profit per dog especially when they are charging $2-3 a dog.


I will repeat again, making $0.33 profit per hotdog is not the problem (that's easy). The problem is consistently making that for 16 hours a day, for 6 days a week.

OK, lets try again. $0.20 per hot dog and $0.10 per bun (condiments are free because they actually pay less than this). Then the cost of cooking it. Add another $0.10 per hot dog. That is $0.40 cents. Say, they sale it for $2.40 (for easier calculation). That is $2 profit per hot dog. You have to sale 160 hot dogs per day, or 10 per hour for 16 hours a day, 6 days a week. During lunch breaks you may get 20 an hour, but rest of the day, you would be lucky to get 5, let alone 10. So, no, not possible.

Not to mention, for most places you have to pay some sort of fee to have your stand there. Then there are holidays and bad weathers, sick days and everything else that will make it virtually impossible to sale it at that pace.
 
2013-06-25 11:40:12 AM
 
2013-06-25 11:42:11 AM

mayIFark: ongbok: mayIFark: How do you have a range for an average?

Besides, if you work say 16 hours a day at a hot dog stand (max possible for a person I think) 6 days a week, you got to make only about $20 an hour, continuously.

I have not seen hot dog stands with more than one person at a time running it. Given that, may be you can make a max of 60 hot dogs an hour, with all the preps and everything that goes with it, not to mention you would need a steady line of customers at all times. Even then you have to make $0.33 cent of profit per hot dog.

I call bullshiat.

I can get a pack of 50 hot dogs for $10 at Costco, I don't know how much buns cost. That is $0.20 per hot dog. I'm sure they are buying much more so they are paying even less than that per hot dog. I'm fairly certain they are making far more than $0.33 profit per dog especially when they are charging $2-3 a dog.

I will repeat again, making $0.33 profit per hotdog is not the problem (that's easy). The problem is consistently making that for 16 hours a day, for 6 days a week.

OK, lets try again. $0.20 per hot dog and $0.10 per bun (condiments are free because they actually pay less than this). Then the cost of cooking it. Add another $0.10 per hot dog. That is $0.40 cents. Say, they sale it for $2.40 (for easier calculation). That is $2 profit per hot dog. You have to sale 160 hot dogs per day, or 10 per hour for 16 hours a day, 6 days a week. During lunch breaks you may get 20 an hour, but rest of the day, you would be lucky to get 5, let alone 10. So, no, not possible.

Not to mention, for most places you have to pay some sort of fee to have your stand there. Then there are holidays and bad weathers, sick days and everything else that will make it virtually impossible to sale it at that pace.


Where do you live? If you are set up in a busy downtown area or business district people are walking around all day, And guess what, people see certain types of food and buy it on impulse. People aren't just buying hotdogs from hotdog stands on lunch. Tourist are buying them, people that are just in the area to handle personal business buy them, and people who are at work buy them. It is an all day type of thing.
 
2013-06-25 11:50:26 AM
I don't know how it is in resort towns, but in NYC just the permission to park your cart in certain places will run you $300k per year.

 http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2009/08/t he_ halfmilliondollar_wiener.html
 
2013-06-25 12:11:21 PM
"Up to" is a misleading phrase.  Mean median and mode, please.
 
2013-06-25 12:13:57 PM

mayIFark: ongbok: mayIFark: How do you have a range for an average?

Besides, if you work say 16 hours a day at a hot dog stand (max possible for a person I think) 6 days a week, you got to make only about $20 an hour, continuously.

I have not seen hot dog stands with more than one person at a time running it. Given that, may be you can make a max of 60 hot dogs an hour, with all the preps and everything that goes with it, not to mention you would need a steady line of customers at all times. Even then you have to make $0.33 cent of profit per hot dog.

I call bullshiat.

I can get a pack of 50 hot dogs for $10 at Costco, I don't know how much buns cost. That is $0.20 per hot dog. I'm sure they are buying much more so they are paying even less than that per hot dog. I'm fairly certain they are making far more than $0.33 profit per dog especially when they are charging $2-3 a dog.

I will repeat again, making $0.33 profit per hotdog is not the problem (that's easy). The problem is consistently making that for 16 hours a day, for 6 days a week.

OK, lets try again. $0.20 per hot dog and $0.10 per bun (condiments are free because they actually pay less than this). Then the cost of cooking it. Add another $0.10 per hot dog. That is $0.40 cents. Say, they sale it for $2.40 (for easier calculation). That is $2 profit per hot dog. You have to sale 160 hot dogs per day, or 10 per hour for 16 hours a day, 6 days a week. During lunch breaks you may get 20 an hour, but rest of the day, you would be lucky to get 5, let alone 10. So, no, not possible.

Not to mention, for most places you have to pay some sort of fee to have your stand there. Then there are holidays and bad weathers, sick days and everything else that will make it virtually impossible to sale it at that pace.


Still ignoring soda.

But here is a perspective for you.  You are using made up numbers to prove your argument that a vendor can't even gross 100k a year in profit above the food cost, which is a fine little exercise in thinking.  But you are leaving out* that many vendors pay 6 figures just for the license alone. So even assuming that hot dog vending sucks and they are as poor as they ought to be or whatever else, they must be grossing more than the license fee to stay in business, and something with a livable wage to get them to come back to the job year after year.  Knowing how much the license fee is, and that no one would lose money at a one-man business for multiple years in a row, you quite literally have to be wrong, extremely so, in your assumptions.

You've already changed your profit margin by a factor of six. You still ignore drinks. All that just to prove that 100k exactly isn't happening. Yet some of these guys are paying 100k just for the coveted slot of being the hot dog vendor in an area. So your original numbers are now off by at minimum a factor of 12 and that is still prior to drinks.  

Shouldn't the fact that you have been proven incorrect by, at minimum, a factor of 12 in your estimates be sufficient for you to admit that you have no idea what you are talking about?

Side note: why are you so skeptical that there are niche jobs, involving 100 hour work weeks and limited by a set number of licenses the city will sell, that can pay this well? I might be reaching here, but I don't see how it could be about the numbers when you are willing to change them so much so quickly.

*yes I know you mentioned the fee as though it supports your estimate, but in fact it does the opposite, as shown above.
 
2013-06-25 12:16:17 PM

mayIFark: ongbok: mayIFark: How do you have a range for an average?

Besides, if you work say 16 hours a day at a hot dog stand (max possible for a person I think) 6 days a week, you got to make only about $20 an hour, continuously.

I have not seen hot dog stands with more than one person at a time running it. Given that, may be you can make a max of 60 hot dogs an hour, with all the preps and everything that goes with it, not to mention you would need a steady line of customers at all times. Even then you have to make $0.33 cent of profit per hot dog.

I call bullshiat.

I can get a pack of 50 hot dogs for $10 at Costco, I don't know how much buns cost. That is $0.20 per hot dog. I'm sure they are buying much more so they are paying even less than that per hot dog. I'm fairly certain they are making far more than $0.33 profit per dog especially when they are charging $2-3 a dog.

I will repeat again, making $0.33 profit per hotdog is not the problem (that's easy). The problem is consistently making that for 16 hours a day, for 6 days a week.

OK, lets try again. $0.20 per hot dog and $0.10 per bun (condiments are free because they actually pay less than this). Then the cost of cooking it. Add another $0.10 per hot dog. That is $0.40 cents. Say, they sale it for $2.40 (for easier calculation). That is $2 profit per hot dog. You have to sale 160 hot dogs per day, or 10 per hour for 16 hours a day, 6 days a week. During lunch breaks you may get 20 an hour, but rest of the day, you would be lucky to get 5, let alone 10. So, no, not possible.

Not to mention, for most places you have to pay some sort of fee to have your stand there. Then there are holidays and bad weathers, sick days and everything else that will make it virtually impossible to sale it at that pace.


The guy outside my office sells hot dogs for $5 at his cart. I never buy from him, but my office happens about a block south of the WTC memorial, with only a hotel in between.  So there's a LOT or tourist foot traffic in the area all day, and virtually no other quick food options in the immediate area. He probably makes his $4.50 profit per dog at a pretty decent clip all day.
 
2013-06-25 12:20:15 PM
He'll make more than that if he becomes Mayor.
 
2013-06-25 12:29:23 PM
gifrific.com
 
2013-06-25 12:59:49 PM
Lemme guess.

One anonymous hotdog vendor brags that he makes $100K.

He's talking about gross revenue, before expenses. He also exaggerates.

/ Worked with sales teams for many years, knows how they think
 
2013-06-25 01:38:50 PM

jaytkay: He's talking about gross revenue, before expenses.


Given the size of licensing fees, it would be impossible to operate a vending machine in many places without doing vastly better than your estimate.  100k gross wouldn't cover a license.
 
2013-06-25 01:47:48 PM
That's a lot of hallways!
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2013-06-25 03:08:52 PM
lady, he's putting my kids through college

deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-25 04:50:56 PM
Niche jobs have "feast or famine" pay scales?  I am completely amazed.

Not to mention pay scale wise there's a ton of obscure prevailing wage and union jobs that pay well into the 100+k range.
 
2013-06-25 08:34:43 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: How about the web programmer who moves the screen up 10 pixels every time I click on the arrow so that after 4 clicks I have to move my mouse? How much does that farkwit make?


I'm a programmer, both web and windows. I make 80k per year but the median salary in my line of work is 120k.
 
2013-06-25 08:43:43 PM

ElPresidente: As long as you clearly understand that the phrase "up to" includes the number "nought".


This is why Joe Biden made sure to say Obamacare will save each American up to 2500 a year.
 
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