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2013-06-25 09:20:19 AM
7 votes:

Waldo Pepper: Why do folks thing Cops are stupid, they know if you are protesting or pleading too much that there must be some underlying reason.  Also if your license is suspended make sure your car has no issues, you wear your seatbelt and you do the speed limit.


Also funny how if you are nice and polite, they are often polite back. Not always, some people are just assholes and cops are people but it is amazing how far a little respect and politeness can go. I was driving into work one day (I work on campus) and a campus police unit started following me. Didn't think much of it since, well it is campus they go all over, but when I pulled into the alley to go to the dock at our building, it was pretty clear he was following me. He pulled up alongside and told me both my brake lights were out, though the rear window light was working. I told him I didn't know (which I didn't) and was a little surprised that it was both. He said sometimes a fuse can blow and do that. Asked me to cycle all the other lights to make sure they all worked, they did and told me to get the brake lights fixed ASAP since it is a safety issue. I thanked him for letting me know, and that was that. After work, went to Autozone and got them fixed.

Now I'll bet you a dollar if I'd been hostile, defensive, and belligerent at the very least he would have wrote me a ticket for it. He also might have decided to look around for other things that were wrong to try and give me additional tickets, or just to jerk me around and waste my time.

In my experience with people in general if you start off nice, polite, and respectful, 95% or more of them time they will act the same way to you. Funny how that works. Just like I hear horror stories of people having problems with fast food service. Yet I eat fast food very frequently, and I always seem to get very good service, no issues, etc. Maybe because I say please and thanks and treat the employees as my equals. They always seem to treat me with respect back.
2013-06-25 08:29:09 AM
5 votes:

vgss: Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: Never go full retard seat reclining mode.

Counter-point: there was a second person who said "yes,enforcing this rule is worth my time and everyone else's.


People need to chill. While the cell phone rule is all kinds of stupid, the flight crew doesn't get to make the call on it. They are told "This is a rule you have to enforce," they really don't have a choice. Over all, you want it that way. The flight crew are not some extremely well educated experts on aircraft. You don't want them deciding what flight safety rules are and are not worth following. You don't want a "Just leave the handle alone Cletus, it isn't like it'll matter if the door comes open, I have no doors on my truck and it is fine!" situation. It is up to the FAA to change the rule (which they should, like 10 years ago) and until then it is reasonable for the flight crew to do as they are told and enforce it.

I feel no sympathy for people who think they are too good for the rules like this lady did. You get told to turn off your phone, like everyone else? Just do it. You are not that important. If you don't, ya they are going to kick you off. If you get belligerent, then yes you are getting arrested.

Also better to deal with an aggressive person on the ground then have to put up with it in flight.
2013-06-25 08:33:53 AM
4 votes:
Self-aggrandizing or self sabotage? Geezus, they gave her three full minutes (at least) to voluntarily get off the plane and avoid going to jail. If she had done that, at least she had a chance at the airline rerouting her to pacify the situation. Instead she grew increasingly belligerent, and in front of her young son, too. Poor guy.
2013-06-25 08:23:12 AM
4 votes:
So her expulsion from the plane for refusal to turn off her cell phone was recorded on... someone else's cell phone?
2013-06-25 08:34:56 AM
3 votes:
What sort of person thinks this will end with the police officer saying "OK, that's fine. Use your phone and have a nice flight, ma'am"?
2013-06-25 08:34:06 AM
3 votes:
Self entitled loud mouth gutter trash thought that she could do whatever she wants and if they said anything, just throw a fit, and they would leave her alone. Think again. I wonder if she's this "ladies" sister.

Link

/Stupid is stupid. Can't fix stupid and loud mouthed, oh...maybe you can.
db2
2013-06-25 08:31:25 AM
3 votes:

Enormous-Schwanstucker: goddamnit...I want to watch it but not another shiatty VeRtIcAl ViDeO....ugh, fecking morons.



I think Youtube should start vertical letterboxing the videos with caption blocks that say "I'M A MORON THAT DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO WORK A CAMERA".
2013-06-25 11:49:55 AM
2 votes:

Alonjar: sycraft: I feel no sympathy for people who think they are too good for the rules like this lady did. You get told to turn off your phone, like everyone else? Just do it. You are not that important. If you don't, ya they are going to kick you off. If you get belligerent, then yes you are getting arrested.

Also better to deal with an aggressive person on the ground then have to put up with it in flight.

Or just do what everbody else does, and pretend to turn your phone off and promptly begin using it again when the stewardess has walked away.

The fact that they chose to make a scene rather than do what I suggested implies the issue at hand was not, in fact, a cell phone, but rather somebody who wanted to make a scene.  So.. she got exactly what she wanted.


When your culture preaches defying authority, do what you want at the expense of all others, being louder than everyone else is the way to win arguments, money and power are all that matters, and historically you are disenfranchised and owed the world, it is no wonder you get losers like this. However, upon ever criticizing this, the race card is played making any further commentary or discussion racist. For those with a political agenda, riding that bandwagon is the easiest votes and support you could possibility hope for. I mean, you could do drugs in DC or swindle your entire city out of money and STILL be a hero.
2013-06-25 11:42:18 AM
2 votes:
Planes should have time out rooms.
2013-06-25 11:21:25 AM
2 votes:

sycraft: I feel no sympathy for people who think they are too good for the rules like this lady did. You get told to turn off your phone, like everyone else? Just do it. You are not that important. If you don't, ya they are going to kick you off. If you get belligerent, then yes you are getting arrested.

Also better to deal with an aggressive person on the ground then have to put up with it in flight.


Or just do what everbody else does, and pretend to turn your phone off and promptly begin using it again when the stewardess has walked away.

The fact that they chose to make a scene rather than do what I suggested implies the issue at hand was not, in fact, a cell phone, but rather somebody who wanted to make a scene.  So.. she got exactly what she wanted.
2013-06-25 09:40:30 AM
2 votes:

gsiofa: Self-aggrandizing or self sabotage? Geezus, they gave her three full minutes (at least) to voluntarily get off the plane and avoid going to jail. If she had done that, at least she had a chance at the airline rerouting her to pacify the situation. Instead she grew increasingly belligerent, and in front of her young son, too. Poor guy.


That kid will most likely grow up being told and believing that the entire episode was blatant discrimination.
2013-06-25 09:08:03 AM
2 votes:

Waldo Pepper: sycraft: vgss: Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: Never go full retard seat reclining mode.

Counter-point: there was a second person who said "yes,enforcing this rule is worth my time and everyone else's.

People need to chill. While the cell phone rule is all kinds of stupid, the flight crew doesn't get to make the call on it. They are told "This is a rule you have to enforce," they really don't have a choice. Over all, you want it that way. The flight crew are not some extremely well educated experts on aircraft. You don't want them deciding what flight safety rules are and are not worth following. You don't want a "Just leave the handle alone Cletus, it isn't like it'll matter if the door comes open, I have no doors on my truck and it is fine!" situation. It is up to the FAA to change the rule (which they should, like 10 years ago) and until then it is reasonable for the flight crew to do as they are told and enforce it.

I feel no sympathy for people who think they are too good for the rules like this lady did. You get told to turn off your phone, like everyone else? Just do it. You are not that important. If you don't, ya they are going to kick you off. If you get belligerent, then yes you are getting arrested.

Also better to deal with an aggressive person on the ground then have to put up with it in flight.

I sort of hope they keep the no cell phone rule. Can you imagine having that lady sitting next to you talking on her cell phone the entire flight.


I am more upset about a different cell phone rule.  The person recording the incident needs to answer for their improperly holding the phone.  That is an offense to all viewers regardless of where the recording took place.  Make the offenders carry the old Motorola flip phone of the 90's, that'll learn 'em.
2013-06-25 09:06:19 AM
2 votes:

orbister: What sort of person thinks this will end with the police officer saying "OK, that's fine. Use your phone and have a nice flight, ma'am"?


I think people who do sh*t like this, subconsciously or not, want to go to jail.

I have several family members of the tire-burning, Oxy-popping variety who seem to live their entire lives with one goal in mind: to be arrested. These people will go out of their way, for no reason, to run afoul of law enforcement. If the shortest distance between their weed dealer and their house is a straight line down the highway, they'll take the sidewalk at 100 MPH with a fifth of 5 O'Clock Vodka between their legs.

It either stems from feelings of self-worthlessness (i.e., they believe they deserve to be in jail) or it's a self-fulfilling thing where they seek out trouble in order to justify their belief that they're somehow oppressed by the world around them.

Or it could be they're just incredibly, incredibly stupid.
2013-06-25 08:56:00 AM
2 votes:
Loud, self-absorbed biatch needs to die.

/Total lack of any awareness of others.
//Biatch
2013-06-25 08:48:16 AM
2 votes:
I love it when people being arrested need someone ELSE to come and tell them what they've done wrong.

"People break laws and get arrested, so what's your problem?"

o_O
2013-06-25 08:40:01 AM
2 votes:
Content of our character, indeed...
2013-06-25 08:40:00 AM
2 votes:
I'm not usually in favor of police brutality, but i'd make an exception in her case.
2013-06-25 08:22:23 AM
2 votes:
goddamnit...I want to watch it but not another shiatty VeRtIcAl ViDeO....ugh, fecking morons.
2013-06-25 02:00:27 PM
1 votes:
I am shocked, completely SHOCKED!!!  A black person?  No F'n way!  Unruly, causing a major scene, cussing up a storm with kids around, ruining everyone else's schedules for the day......a black person?!  Shocked!
2013-06-25 10:31:45 AM
1 votes:
Damn, I usually don't side with the Authorities on much of anything, but I thought the way they handled this biatch was very professional. I mean, they were patient with her but stern and then finally hauled her dumbass off the plane. They should get a raise or something...
2013-06-25 10:08:44 AM
1 votes:

sycraft: gsiofa: I always thought they tell you to turn everything off to try and force you to pay attention to the safety announcement, and to have a better chance at successfully communicating instructions to passengers if the plane is in trouble.

No, because if that was the reason they'd require you to put down books and magazines as well, which they don't. There was a concern that electronics could interfere with the avionics and communications systems in airplanes, back in the day. Well when it comes to airplanes crashing, you err on the side of caution. However, technology advances, and not only are planes much better shielded, but we can measure all this stuff. So we can, and have, checked to see if there's any interference issues and not, there's not, not even if the whole plane is using electronic devices (RF doesn't work in an additive fashion as most think). It has been carefully studied and checked by the airlines, the FCC, and so on. However the FAA is being stubborn, mostly at this point because it is a "We don't want to admit we were wrong," thing since literally 10 years ago or more all the studies has been done on this.

It also really isn't that necessary to make people pay attention. First time fliers tend to be nervous and will listen intently. Those of us that have flown a lot can, literally, recite the whole thing from memory.


You do realize that not all airlines fly with shiny, brand new aircraft right?  Some carriers (yes, even in the US) are flying planes that were designed and built 20 years or more ago.

Basically I look at it this way.  It's their plane, not mine.  If they want me to turn off my electronics at any time I am on their plane (not mine) then I am obligated to do so.  Stupid rule?  Maybe. But until I can afford my own plane I'll turn my phone off and let's be honest here it really isn't that big of a deal to turn your phone off for a few minutes is it?  You're flying coach on a commercial jet, you're not as important as you think you are.
2013-06-25 09:32:58 AM
1 votes:

Babwa Wawa: So her expulsion from the plane for refusal to turn off her cell phone was recorded on... someone else's cell phone?


They don't usually make you turn off your phones until after they push away from the gate.  They had to head back to the gate because this woman refused to turn off her phone.  Once back at the gate you can use your phone again.  Maybe to tell your family that you are going to miss your connecting flight and won't make it home tonight because the biatch in seat 14c refused to turn her phone off and delayed the flight an hour.  Or maybe to take a video of the the woman that is gonna make you spend the night on the floor at O'hare airport get her ass dragged off the plane by the cops.

There is one thing you can count on, If you force a plane return to the gate you are gonna be getting off the plane.  If I had been on the plane I would have been reminding the cops that they have Tazers.
2013-06-25 09:20:46 AM
1 votes:

OnlyM3: So after fark spent 30 pages defending an overweight actor doing the same thing, fark hates this woman?


Consistency counts.


If you are referring to Kevin Smith then you are either trolling or just plain stupid.
2013-06-25 09:04:26 AM
1 votes:

WorkingInParadise: Enormous-Schwanstucker: goddamnit...I want to watch it but not another shiatty VeRtIcAl ViDeO....ugh, fecking morons.

so much THIS. I was given the job of posting photos online following a mission trip. The group leader took every picture vertical - even group photos and scenery.


Ok, I admit it I watched the video anyway. Did anyone notice the boy didn't cry or make much noise? I bet he's already used to his babby mama's outbursts. Sad.
2013-06-25 09:03:20 AM
1 votes:
If only there was some recess... some pouch, in which people could easily place things.  Where the things would be out of sight from other people, so those other people couldn't see if the things are on or off...

If only people could have these magical "hide the phone" pouches sewed onto a piece of their clothing, so it would be most convenient.


//biatch should have put it in her pocket.
2013-06-25 08:59:57 AM
1 votes:

Pangit: eas81: Babwa Wawa: So her expulsion from the plane for refusal to turn off her cell phone was recorded on... someone else's cell phone?

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Doesn't mean you have to turn the thing off...Hey who knows, maybe she had a good game of words with friends going on.

Actually every flight I have ever been on says ALL electronics have to be completely powered off. Then when you hear the 2-3 chimes after take-off, its "safe" to use in flight mode.

/I leave mine in flight mode also.


I always thought they tell you to turn everything off to try and force you to pay attention to the safety announcement, and to have a better chance at successfully communicating instructions to passengers if the plane is in trouble.
2013-06-25 08:58:30 AM
1 votes:
Paula Deen has the word for her.
2013-06-25 08:54:11 AM
1 votes:

sycraft: vgss: Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: Never go full retard seat reclining mode.

Counter-point: there was a second person who said "yes,enforcing this rule is worth my time and everyone else's.

People need to chill. While the cell phone rule is all kinds of stupid, the flight crew doesn't get to make the call on it. They are told "This is a rule you have to enforce," they really don't have a choice. Over all, you want it that way. The flight crew are not some extremely well educated experts on aircraft. You don't want them deciding what flight safety rules are and are not worth following. You don't want a "Just leave the handle alone Cletus, it isn't like it'll matter if the door comes open, I have no doors on my truck and it is fine!" situation. It is up to the FAA to change the rule (which they should, like 10 years ago) and until then it is reasonable for the flight crew to do as they are told and enforce it.

I feel no sympathy for people who think they are too good for the rules like this lady did. You get told to turn off your phone, like everyone else? Just do it. You are not that important. If you don't, ya they are going to kick you off. If you get belligerent, then yes you are getting arrested.

Also better to deal with an aggressive person on the ground then have to put up with it in flight.


I sort of hope they keep the no cell phone rule. Can you imagine having that lady sitting next to you talking on her cell phone the entire flight.
2013-06-25 08:49:45 AM
1 votes:
LOL at the vertical video whining.
2013-06-25 08:48:23 AM
1 votes:
The person who took the video needs to be arrested for being too much of a pussy to point the camera at, you know, the actual incident.
2013-06-25 08:41:29 AM
1 votes:

eas81: Babwa Wawa: So her expulsion from the plane for refusal to turn off her cell phone was recorded on... someone else's cell phone?


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Doesn't mean you have to turn the thing off...Hey who knows, maybe she had a good game of words with friends going on.



Yes, you do need to turn it off.  It's a FAA rule.
2013-06-25 08:34:31 AM
1 votes:

db2: Enormous-Schwanstucker: goddamnit...I want to watch it but not another shiatty VeRtIcAl ViDeO....ugh, fecking morons.


I think Youtube should start vertical letterboxing the videos with caption blocks that say "I'M A MORON THAT DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO WORK A CAMERA".


I heartily endorse your idea. Where do I sign up?

On the flip side handset manufacturers should be drawn and quartered AND served with some Fava beans and a nice Chianti for allowing VV's to be recorded on their devices.
2013-06-25 08:27:17 AM
1 votes:
I was with her until about 45 seconds in when she reverted into whatever human garbage she was before she put her college-educated persona on.
2013-06-25 08:19:33 AM
1 votes:

Never go full retard seat reclining mode.

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