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2013-06-25 10:58:11 AM

soup: Also worth noting is he sent this email the day before his death:

"Subject: FBI Investigation, re: NSA

Hey (redacted names) -- the Feds are interviewing my "close friends and associates." Perhaps if the authorities arrive "BuzzFeed GQ," er HQ, may be wise to immediately request legal counsel before any conversations or interviews about our news-gathering practices or related journalism issues.

Also: I'm onto a big story, and need to go off the rada[r] for a bit.

All the best, and hope to see you all soon.

Michael"

This guy wasn't some 18 year old motor-head racer trying to impress chicks, so why would he be driving 100+ mph at 4AM? Doesn't make sense to me. Combine that with the above, plus the government crackdown on whistle-blowers, plus the revelation that the NSA snoops through all digital communications... is it really that crazy to think this guy was offed?


Yes, it is crazy. Next?
 
2013-06-25 11:01:41 AM

Heron: neversubmit: The car is a goner they even put a white sheet over it.

[resources3.news.com.au image 650x366]

Alternately, the rich are better even their cars get a white sheet.

I think that might be for his body.


His body is under the hood!?!
 
2013-06-25 11:04:36 AM

jjorsett: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how-to/computer-security/h o w-vulnerable-is-your-car-to-cyber-attack


From that article, it seems like a receiver of some kind would have had to be installed in his vehicle for this to work. If that's the case, then it's remains ought to be there in the wreckage. The article also mentions On Star having the capacity to do this, so if he had that service, and if the gov has some sort of deal with OnStar allowing them to use its override, or establishing a gov back-door in the system, that could also have been used and there might be a "paper trail" somewhere for it.

To me the first question that needs to be considered is would it be unusual for Hastings to be driving at high-speeds at that time of night? One of the big reasons I'm doubtful about this being an assassination is that the people who knew him haven't been reacting as if behavior like this was peculiar for him.
 
2013-06-25 11:06:29 AM

neversubmit: Heron: neversubmit: The car is a goner they even put a white sheet over it.

[resources3.news.com.au image 650x366]

Alternately, the rich are better even their cars get a white sheet.

I think that might be for his body.

His body is under the hood!?!


I saw a pic yesterday where it was hanging out of the front window over the hood burnt to a crisp, and that sheet would be covering it if the body hadn't been moved yet.
 
2013-06-25 11:07:18 AM

Wendy's Chili: The drunk coke head couldn't have possibly wrecked his own car. It must be a government conspiracy.

Same thing with that Brightfart guy. No way booze and coke killed him. It was Obama's secret heart attack technology.


Somebody was saying this guy was a drunk and coke-head in another thread and I was wondering where this came from?  Was this guy in fact a drunk coke-head?  Any proof?
That is some pretty relevant information given the circumstances and I would like to know if that is indeed true.  Sources?

Also, how often do cars explode into an inferno after a collision with a tree?  I know in the movies cars explode by hitting a pothole, but in reality I thought this was actually rather rare...

IF this were a hit, it was made intentionally suspicious to warn others... otherwise there are probably more subtle ways to off a person.
 
2013-06-25 11:09:08 AM

Heron: neversubmit: Heron: neversubmit: The car is a goner they even put a white sheet over it.

[resources3.news.com.au image 650x366]

Alternately, the rich are better even their cars get a white sheet.

I think that might be for his body.

His body is under the hood!?!

I saw a pic yesterday where it was hanging out of the front window over the hood burnt to a crisp, and that sheet would be covering it if the body hadn't been moved yet.


On top of the hood then, why didn't you just say so?
 
2013-06-25 11:10:43 AM

neversubmit: Heron: neversubmit: Heron: neversubmit: The car is a goner they even put a white sheet over it.

[resources3.news.com.au image 650x366]

Alternately, the rich are better even their cars get a white sheet.

I think that might be for his body.

His body is under the hood!?!

I saw a pic yesterday where it was hanging out of the front window over the hood burnt to a crisp, and that sheet would be covering it if the body hadn't been moved yet.

On top of the hood then, why didn't you just say so?


I just did :p
 
2013-06-25 11:13:17 AM

Dman33: Wendy's Chili: The drunk coke head couldn't have possibly wrecked his own car. It must be a government conspiracy.

Same thing with that Brightfart guy. No way booze and coke killed him. It was Obama's secret heart attack technology.

Somebody was saying this guy was a drunk and coke-head in another thread and I was wondering where this came from?  Was this guy in fact a drunk coke-head?  Any proof?
That is some pretty relevant information given the circumstances and I would like to know if that is indeed true.  Sources?

Also, how often do cars explode into an inferno after a collision with a tree?  I know in the movies cars explode by hitting a pothole, but in reality I thought this was actually rather rare...

IF this were a hit, it was made intentionally suspicious to warn others... otherwise there are probably more subtle ways to off a person.


Why do so many auto-think "government conspiracy" when there are activists billionaires that can pay to make it happen.
 
2013-06-25 11:15:29 AM

Heron: neversubmit: Heron: neversubmit: Heron: neversubmit: The car is a goner they even put a white sheet over it.

[resources3.news.com.au image 650x366]

Alternately, the rich are better even their cars get a white sheet.

I think that might be for his body.

His body is under the hood!?!

I saw a pic yesterday where it was hanging out of the front window over the hood burnt to a crisp, and that sheet would be covering it if the body hadn't been moved yet.

On top of the hood then, why didn't you just say so?

I just did :p


goofy_face.jpg
 
2013-06-25 11:57:06 AM
That's why I drive a '76 Ford Pinto. That way, I know I'm safe.
 
2013-06-25 12:05:14 PM

Heron: jjorsett: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how-to/computer-security/h o w-vulnerable-is-your-car-to-cyber-attack

From that article, it seems like a receiver of some kind would have had to be installed in his vehicle for this to work. If that's the case, then it's remains ought to be there in the wreckage. The article also mentions On Star having the capacity to do this, so if he had that service, and if the gov has some sort of deal with OnStar allowing them to use its override, or establishing a gov back-door in the system, that could also have been used and there might be a "paper trail" somewhere for it.

To me the first question that needs to be considered is would it be unusual for Hastings to be driving at high-speeds at that time of night? One of the big reasons I'm doubtful about this being an assassination is that the people who knew him haven't been reacting as if behavior like this was peculiar for him.


That article is about tests from years ago, and I think of it as an indicator of what can be done once control is obtained. The next task is to seize that control via undetectable means, and given that cars are now a complex array of sensors, processors, and access points, I'd be surprised if obtaining that control is impossible. You might have to have physical access for a short time to reconfigure or introduce malware, but I'm betting even that's not necessary these days.
 
2013-06-25 12:19:18 PM

jjorsett: The next task is to seize that control via undetectable means,



MBrace is cellular, and it has been compromised before.  Since the ECU was destroyed from the fire, it is an undetectable means.
 
2013-06-25 12:43:09 PM
 
2013-06-25 01:29:07 PM
Why this guy? They had to test it on someone? Amiright?
 
2013-06-25 03:38:15 PM

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Now farkers will start thinking we are lovers. Or worse
 
2013-06-25 03:43:20 PM

Dman33: Wendy's Chili: The drunk coke head couldn't have possibly wrecked his own car. It must be a government conspiracy.

Same thing with that Brightfart guy. No way booze and coke killed him. It was Obama's secret heart attack technology.

Somebody was saying this guy was a drunk and coke-head in another thread and I was wondering where this came from? Was this guy in fact a drunk coke-head? Any proof?


I can only speculate on his drug of choice, but I saw him on MSNBC and Current a week or so ago, and he was a hot mess in both appearances. When I first heard he died, I would have bet my life savings it was from an OD.
 
2013-06-25 04:24:05 PM
And as the police get issued their EMP devices, either free hand or grill mounted, they can kill a car and hopefully the car wasn't on a curve on a mountain road along the edge of a cliff.

/Over-riding the car sure would make speeding tickets easy to create.......... Errr, to slow down cars in safety enforcement zones.
 
2013-06-25 04:57:53 PM

Triumph: RexTalionis: Ah, the conspiracy theory that is impossible to disprove (or to prove).

What is interesting about Richard Clarke saying this is he was the counter-terror czar. Somebody WANTS people to know what can be done and wants them scared. The Snowden thing is the same - they WANT people paranoid about the surveillance state. The AP says their usual sources are all clamming up, suddenly. That's the objective.


"Kill one, instruct a hundred."   -- Marion Puzo ("Vito Corleone")
 
2013-06-25 04:58:55 PM
"Mario", I meant.
 
2013-06-25 05:08:45 PM

soup: Also worth noting is he sent this email the day before his death:

"Subject: FBI Investigation, re: NSA

Hey (redacted names) -- the Feds are interviewing my "close friends and associates." Perhaps if the authorities arrive "BuzzFeed GQ," er HQ, may be wise to immediately request legal counsel before any conversations or interviews about our news-gathering practices or related journalism issues.

Also: I'm onto a big story, and need to go off the rada[r] for a bit.

All the best, and hope to see you all soon.

Michael"

This guy wasn't some 18 year old motor-head racer trying to impress chicks, so why would he be driving 100+ mph at 4AM? Doesn't make sense to me. Combine that with the above, plus the government crackdown on whistle-blowers, plus the revelation that the NSA snoops through all digital communications... is it really that crazy to think this guy was offed?


The US government under Nixon had no problem fast-track selling military hardware to the Pakis when they were genociding a million Bangladeshis, or turning a blind eye when Chilean agents fatally carbombed Chilean dissidents in Washington DC.  Then there's the Vietnam and Iraq wars, black ops sites...

A lot of Farkers are in denial about how their government can be the bad guy, especially when a thread like this comes up.  But Pol Pot wasn't the only pol with a "to destroy you is no loss" attitude.
 
2013-06-26 12:38:18 AM
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