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(National Geographic)   Biggest dead zone ever forecast in Gulf of Mexico -- as big as the dead zone called New Jersey   (news.nationalgeographic.com) divider line 23
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2013-06-25 08:44:04 AM  
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My advise, is for the people to demand that US Fish and Wildlife Services is disbanded. The old men that run this agency, and in every state office of FWS are hunters who are pure evil and despicable in their torture methods of other species. They're the garbage that should be put into the landfills. Replace every single one of them with environmental personnel who aren't in the pockets of the hunting, ranching and farming industries. This will be a major step in reversing the damage.

It's nice to know morons don't just troll fark.
 
2013-06-25 08:50:24 AM  
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2013-06-25 08:50:46 AM  
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Your house...it's...on FIRE.
 
2013-06-25 08:52:52 AM  

fta

The forecasts are made using computer models

Same computer simulations that predicted the Himalayas would be devoid of ice and snow would be a thing of the past?

GIGO
 
2013-06-25 08:54:09 AM  
I wonder how big a dead zone would have to get before we cared enough to change our ways?
 
2013-06-25 08:56:19 AM  

neversubmit: I wonder how big a dead zone would have to get before we cared enough to change our ways?


You'll have to ask the man in the mirror.
 
2013-06-25 09:02:03 AM  
FTFA: A dead zone, which occurs in the oceans and Great Lakes, is an area usually in the bottom waters where there's not enough oxygen to sustain life. It's generally caused by algae stimulated by lots of agricultural nutrients in surface waters. When nutrients enter the water, [they] create an algal bloom. [When] the algae sink, bacteria start decomposing them, which uses up the [available] oxygen.

Duh, just have farmers use more herbicides so they kill the algae.
 
2013-06-25 09:04:42 AM  
Nice how the article left out one of the major reasons for these dead zones, ethanol, the demand for Corn is so high farmers no longer want to rotate their crops instead they want to plant more corn.  So they use more fertilizers, which get flooded down stream and cause these blooms.
 
2013-06-25 09:07:01 AM  

Egoy3k: from the comments:

My advise, is for the people to demand that US Fish and Wildlife Services is disbanded. The old men that run this agency, and in every state office of FWS are hunters who are pure evil and despicable in their torture methods of other species. They're the garbage that should be put into the landfills. Replace every single one of them with environmental personnel who aren't in the pockets of the hunting, ranching and farming industries. This will be a major step in reversing the damage.

It's nice to know morons don't just troll fark.


No shiat, eh? I think hunters are actually some of the more ethical people in society, because they give a crap about the environment (you can't hunt if you kill off all the animals) and they know where their food actually comes from. It's clueless, city-born "environmentalists" that do the most damage.
 
2013-06-25 09:14:58 AM  

OnlyM3: fta
The forecasts are made using computer models
Same computer simulations that predicted the Himalayas would be devoid of ice and snow would be a thing of the past?

GIGO



No. These computer models are concerned with fertilizer run-off and algal growth and decomposition rates. They don't address the temperature and precipitation amounts in the Himalayas.
 
2013-06-25 09:22:15 AM  

PizzaJedi81: neversubmit: I wonder how big a dead zone would have to get before we cared enough to change our ways?

You'll have to ask the man in the mirror.


In that case... Never!

/Vicariously I live while the whole world dies
 
2013-06-25 09:23:10 AM  

give me doughnuts: OnlyM3: fta
The forecasts are made using computer models
Same computer simulations that predicted the Himalayas would be devoid of ice and snow would be a thing of the past?

GIGO


No. These computer models are concerned with fertilizer run-off and algal growth and decomposition rates. They don't address the temperature and precipitation amounts in the Himalayas.


Have to admit, that would be one hell of a computer model.
 
2013-06-25 09:27:37 AM  
No worries, The Dead Zone is non-cannon, as is that 9 part mini series where Garlic Jr. appears and makes the whole world evil and Krillin has a girlfriend.
 
2013-06-25 09:43:52 AM  
 Just remember, it's conservatives who say we can dump, pollute, and do whatever to the environment and that it has no impact whatsoever.

If they're this wrong on such an important issue. How wrong are they on everything else?
 
2013-06-25 10:35:00 AM  
It would help tremendously if states could exact damages from other states due to this sort of fertilizer runoff and other pollution that is carried by rivers. Or, you know, if we maybe extended the clean water act to cover non-point pollution from rural (fertilizer) and urban runoff.

It would probably be fairly easy to clean this up, and national regulations that would shrink the Gulf dead zone would also clean up Lake Erie (which now has algae blooms again, due to agriculture). Maybe farmers would have to use fertilizer more carefully, use less, and leave a buffer between their land and wetlands, and cities would have to maybe put up some green areas so water is absorbed rather than all ending up in the rivers right away? Not that hard.

Environmental protection is not really rocket science, it's just not acting like a dick, and when you find out that doing certain things causes damage you stop doing those things. Sadly there is more money in carelessness and externalizing costs onto people downstream, and there is no meaningful environmental movement left with any sort of meaningful political pull.
 
2013-06-25 10:49:47 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: give me doughnuts: OnlyM3: fta
The forecasts are made using computer models
Same computer simulations that predicted the Himalayas would be devoid of ice and snow would be a thing of the past?

GIGO


No. These computer models are concerned with fertilizer run-off and algal growth and decomposition rates. They don't address the temperature and precipitation amounts in the Himalayas.

Have to admit, that would be one hell of a computer model.


Be one hell of a computer that could run it.
 
2013-06-25 11:11:40 AM  
There have been dead zones for millions of years, which proves that these dead zones are not caused by man-made activity.  This is just a hoax by the US Fish and Wildlife Service to bring us all underneath their communist one-world government.  There are dead zones on other planets, too.  They just say this stuff so they can get grant money.
 
2013-06-25 11:27:36 AM  
The size of New Jersey?!  We use the King's measure here - what is it in Rhode Islands?

/7.2
 
2013-06-25 11:52:39 AM  
Who the fark cares about a few stupid fish?  Why don't they just swim somewhere else.
 
2013-06-25 01:00:47 PM  
HypnozombieX

Just remember, it's conservatives who say we can dump, pollute, and do whatever to the environment and that it has no impact whatsoever.
Citation needed.


If they're this wrong on such an important issue. How wrong are they on everything else?
Since you moon bats have to lie about this issue, how are we to trust you on anything else?
 
2013-06-25 01:41:27 PM  
Debeo Summa Credo:

give me doughnuts: These computer models are concerned with fertilizer run-off and algal growth and decomposition rates. They don't address the temperature and precipitation amounts in the Himalayas.

Have to admit, that would be one hell of a computer model.


Actually, the current-generation Earth system models are a combination of climate models and ecosystem/biogeochemistry models, so they could in principle do this.  (I'm not sure if they have all the algal biogeochemistry in them to do what the models in the article are doing, though.)
 
2013-06-25 01:44:49 PM  

give me doughnuts: OnlyM3: Same computer simulations that predicted the Himalayas would be devoid of ice and snow would be a thing of the past?

No. These computer models are concerned with fertilizer run-off and algal growth and decomposition rates. They don't address the temperature and precipitation amounts in the Himalayas.


Not to mention the fact that "snow will be a thing of the past", nor that the Himalayas will be devoid of ice.
 
2013-06-25 02:18:31 PM  
If God wanted them to survive then he would give them oxygen.  Obviously they're dirty sinners and must be purged.
 
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