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(BBC)   Afghanistan falls apart in five easy pieces. Hamid Karzai sold separately   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 22
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2013-06-25 08:41:21 AM
I want you to hold Helmland between your knees.
 
2013-06-25 09:47:37 AM
Done in one.
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2013-06-25 09:56:46 AM
This whole thing is a goddamned boondoggle. What a waste. Of everything.
 
2013-06-25 09:56:53 AM
Land war in Asia? In my foreign policy?
 
2013-06-25 10:00:11 AM
This is how they want to live.  Let's get out of their way and let them do it.  When the rest of the world has flying cars and holodecks, they'll still be living in the dark ages and cutting each others throats.
 
2013-06-25 10:00:58 AM

Sybarite: I want you to hold Helmland between your knees.


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Nice one.

/You see this sign?!
 
2013-06-25 10:20:29 AM

Takeshi6400: This is how they want to live.


Who?
 
2013-06-25 10:26:50 AM
Exactly why is the administration attempting to negotiate with these terrorists instead of sticking with the tried and true policy of "just kill them"?
 
2013-06-25 10:28:59 AM
Well, we just might see the repetition of history with imploding government and Karzai ending up the same way as the previous president if he doesn't know when to hop on a leaving plane...
 
2013-06-25 10:49:08 AM
If that's what happens in the "secure zone" I'd hate to see what happens in the "unsecure zones".
 
2013-06-25 11:10:03 AM
Is Kabul a scandal yet?

/They have finally figured out that it is the CIA that is droning them at weddings.
 
2013-06-25 11:41:37 AM

verbaltoxin: This whole thing is a goddamned boondoggle. What a waste. Of everything.


Because of Boosh Bag and his hard on for Iraq, yes.  If we hadn't shifted resources and focus to that disaster, we probably could have stamped out the Taliban, found Bin Laden and had things under control much more quicklyl.  But because Shrub decided to oust Saddam, we'll never know for sure.

/Actually, because Al Gore lost in 2000, we'll never know for sure.
 
2013-06-25 11:58:57 AM
Nothing to see here.
Just the Taliban taking back what is theirs.
 
2013-06-25 12:23:21 PM
Should never have changed playbooks. What worked in 2001 was Special Ops teams and money. Special ops teams directing air strikes and money to pay off the various warlords and tribal leaders who were wither sitting on the fence or even fighting for the other side.

The introduction of large conventional forces and trying to turn 7th century savages into a 21st century nation is where we went wrong. It would be cheaper just to have stuck with the original playbook. Restored the monarchy if only for appearance sake , and continue to run special ops and pay bribes. Our only concern would be to keep the Taliban out of power and Afghanistan would continue to give our special ops some real world operations to supplement their training. Heck maybe even make conducting an operation in Afghanistan part of the graduation requirement for Special Ops, Ranges and Seals
 
2013-06-25 12:32:08 PM

Takeshi6400: This is how they want to live.  Let's get out of their way and let them do it.  When the rest of the world has flying cars and holodecks, they'll still be living in the dark ages and cutting each others throats.


Don't forget the homosexual pedophilia and use of women as appliances and livestock.  That shiat is their bag, baby.
 
2013-06-25 12:57:18 PM
So, we wound up where the British and Russians wound up. Guess third time wasn't a charm.
 
2013-06-25 01:43:56 PM
Yep, it's nearly ready to govern itself when the USA goes home at the end of the year.
 
2013-06-25 02:14:13 PM

Joce678: Yep, it's nearly ready to govern itself when the USA goes home at the end of the year.


I predict that we will be hearing about the wonderful vacation packages to the sunny beaches of peaceful Afghanistan in no time.  Enjoy the surf and the sun!

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2013-06-25 02:42:33 PM
Afghanistan is a completely hopeless place and the sooner we get out of there the better.
 
2013-06-25 04:07:07 PM
I know it's uncouth and un-PC to say, but all those soldiers we lost in Afghanistan beyond those first 6 months when we didn't catch Bin Laden and got into nation building were a complete waste of young Americans who could have had long futures ahead of them.

This country makes me sick sometimes.
 
2013-06-25 04:28:33 PM

KidKorporate: Takeshi6400: This is how they want to live.  Let's get out of their way and let them do it.  When the rest of the world has flying cars and holodecks, they'll still be living in the dark ages and cutting each others throats.

Don't forget the homosexual pedophilia and use of women as appliances and livestock.  That shiat is their bag, baby.


Ha ha!  Ever heard of DynCorp?
 
2013-06-25 05:39:56 PM

shinjitsuism: verbaltoxin: This whole thing is a goddamned boondoggle. What a waste. Of everything.

Because of Boosh Bag and his hard on for Iraq, yes.  If we hadn't shifted resources and focus to that disaster, we probably could have stamped out the Taliban, found Bin Laden and had things under control much more quicklyl.  But because Shrub decided to oust Saddam, we'll never know for sure.

/Actually, because Al Gore lost in 2000, we'll never know for sure.


Starting a second war before we'd won the first one was a moronic decision, and probably the worst foreign policy disaster by any US president since Vietnam.  However, it was never going to be easy to stamp out the Taliban or find Bin Laden, because A) the Taliban was created, sponsored and protected by Pakistan, B) within days of our invasion, Bin Laden was being hosted in Pakistan, and C) as soon as the Afghan War became a large-scale conventional war, the US laid its major ground supply lines across Pakistan.

Which means that Pakistan had us by the short hairs from the beginning, and Pakistan's policy interest was and still is for the US-backed Karzai government (which is perceived as sympathetic to Indian interests) to fail, and for the Taliban to survive and resume control.  (Of course, this was before the Pakistani Taliban started killing people in Pakistan.  But Islamabad doesn't worry much about that.)

The Afghan War was lost because we didn't realize that neighboring powers (Pakistan) had a powerful vote in the outcome, and opposed our interests, and that everybody hates being occupied by a foreign military.  The Iraq War was lost because we didn't realize that neighboring powers (Iran) had a powerful vote in the outcome, and opposed our interests, and that everybody hates being occupied by a foreign military.  I HOPE that a lesson has been learned...but I doubt it.  Because any student of history could have learned the same lesson from Vietnam.
 
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