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2013-06-24 05:54:27 PM  
Sin_City_Superhero
My Address
Las Vegas, NV Zip Code

RE: MLB Blackout Restrictions

Major League Baseball
The Office of the Commissioner of Baseball
Allen H. Selig, Commissioner
245 Park Avenue
31st Floor
New York, NY 10167

Dear Commissioner Selig,

I have been a baseball fan for as long as I can remember, but I have always been confused about MLB's blackout restrictions. As I understand it, non-sellouts are blacked out locally to encourage fans to go out to the stadium. What I cannot understand is why regions that don't have an MLB team nearby are subjected to this. In Las Vegas, for example, there are six teams that are blacked out, the nearest of which is over four hours away. That means that on any given day there are as many as twelve teams that are not viewable in Las Vegas. That's almost half of the league!

And these are games that I couldn't go to if I wanted to. It's not like I can drive out to Chavez Ravine or AT&T Park after work. Let's look at the numbers, shall we:

• L.A. Dodgers - 274 miles (4 hours 15 minutes)
• L.A. Angels of Anaheim - 267 miles (4 hours 10 minutes)
• Oakland A's - 551 miles (8 hours 30 minutes)
• San Francisco Giants - 568 miles (8 hours 50 minutes)
• San Diego Padres - 335 miles (5 hours)
• Arizona Diamondbacks - 289 (4 hours 50 minutes)

Furthermore, If the goal is to separate me from my money, why are games still blacked out if I purchase the MLB package from my cable provider? If the goal is to get my money, and I've given you my money, there should be no blackouts. It doesn't really make me want to pay for it, if I'm still going to be missing games from a third of the league.

And can you please explain why I have to pay a subscription fee to watch games on TV, and another fee to watch games online? Shouldn't a subscription to MLB Extra Innings include a way to stream the games online? As it is, there are several offshore websites that stream MLB games for free. While the video quality on those websites isn't HD, it's still preferable to paying for a sub-par subscription service.

I would happily pay $199 for a season-long subscription that gave me every game on my TV or online, in HD, with no blackouts. But I cannot justify paying a dime for the lackluster MLB subscription service that currently exists. And I'm sure that I'm not alone in my thinking. Perhaps at some point, MLB will revisit their antiquated blackout restrictions, and come up with a more logical system, but until such time as that happens, you should know that MLB will not be getting my money.

I look forward to your reply. Perhaps you can explain these blackout restrictions in a way that makes sense, or point out something that I am missing.

Thank you,

Sin_City_Superhero
 
2013-06-24 05:57:42 PM  
Blackout restrictions are seriously one of the dumbest business practices ever.

"Hey, we noticed that you're having trouble filling your seats, so we had a great idea! We'll stop airing your games! That'll totally get people more interested in the team and get them to go to the game. There's no way it'll alienate the already fragile fanbase into giving up on a team."
 
2013-06-24 06:31:37 PM  
I wanted to watch an MLB Free Game of the Day online last week, but couldn't due to the blackout rule, even though it was an away game for my favorite team.

using a proxy didn't work, either :(
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-24 06:31:55 PM  
I understand the principle of blackouts, but blacking out everything within a day's drive is excessive.
 
2013-06-24 06:37:50 PM  
I've fired off that same letter (in my head).  Now I just watch (waaaay) less baseball.
 
2013-06-24 06:45:38 PM  

Aarontology: Blackout restrictions are seriously one of the dumbest business practices ever.

"Hey, we noticed that you're having trouble filling your seats, so we had a great idea! We'll stop airing your games! That'll totally get people more interested in the team and get them to go to the game. There's no way it'll alienate the already fragile fanbase into giving up on a team."


It's like a predecessor of DRM. "Not enough people are interested in buying our product, so we'll make it MORE difficult to enjoy it!"
 
2013-06-24 06:52:06 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: And these are games that I couldn't go to if I wanted to. It's not like I can drive out to Chavez Ravine or AT&T Park after work. Let's look at the numbers, shall we:

• L.A. Dodgers - 274 miles (4 hours 15 minutes)
• L.A. Angels of Anaheim - 267 miles (4 hours 10 minutes)
• Oakland A's - 551 miles (8 hours 30 minutes)
• San Francisco Giants - 568 miles (8 hours 50 minutes)
• San Diego Padres - 335 miles (5 hours)
• Arizona Diamondbacks - 289 (4 hours 50 minutes)

Furthermore, If the goal is to separate me from my money, why are games still blacked out if I purchase the MLB package from my cable provider? If the goal is to get my money, and I've given you my money, there should be no blackouts. It doesn't really make me want to pay for it, if I'm still going to be missing games from a third of the league.


This is something that I have seen that really pisses me off, but it has less to do with MLB and more to do with the individual teams. From what I understand teams often claim a territory, that territory may sometimes be hundreds of miles away from them, and they will not let any other teams broadcast in that territory because those are they're fans, unless the other teams pay a fee. Where you live may have been claimed by another team.
 
2013-06-24 06:52:33 PM  

GrahamManning: I've fired off that same letter (in my head).  Now I just watch (waaaay) less baseball.


Pretty much. When baseball was on TV all the time, I usually thought, "Hey it would be fun to go to one of those." And I would go. Not showing games on TV doesn't drive me to the park, it just makes me forget about the team.
 
2013-06-24 06:52:57 PM  
I really don't think he's going to take someone seriously who claims their name is "Sin_City_Superhero"

(Ok, in all seriousness, I'm with you.  I cancelled all my MLB subscriptions this year.)
 
2013-06-24 06:56:11 PM  

ongbok: This is something that I have seen that really pisses me off, but it has less to do with MLB and more to do with the individual teams. From what I understand teams often claim a territory, that territory may sometimes be hundreds of miles away from them, and they will not let any other teams broadcast in that territory because those are they're fans, unless the other teams pay a fee. Where you live may have been claimed by another team.


Yeah, basically EVERY part of the country is in a territory.  If you want to define a territory, it should just be within broadcast range.  I'm a White Sox fan and had Extra Innings and MLB.tv.  I live in New Orleans, so they blacked out any games against Texas, Houston, and Atlanta.

Really??  First of all, no, we don't get Dallas TV stations here.  Secondly, no one down here roots for Texas just because they're kinda sorta closer than other teams.
 
2013-06-24 07:06:14 PM  

Jekylman: GrahamManning: I've fired off that same letter (in my head).  Now I just watch (waaaay) less baseball.

Pretty much. When baseball was on TV all the time, I usually thought, "Hey it would be fun to go to one of those." And I would go. Not showing games on TV doesn't drive me to the park, it just makes me forget about the team.


I had the MLB package to watch the Mets and almost EVERY Sunday game (which I could watch) was blacked out.
 
2013-06-24 07:07:20 PM  

downstairs: ongbok: This is something that I have seen that really pisses me off, but it has less to do with MLB and more to do with the individual teams. From what I understand teams often claim a territory, that territory may sometimes be hundreds of miles away from them, and they will not let any other teams broadcast in that territory because those are they're fans, unless the other teams pay a fee. Where you live may have been claimed by another team.

Yeah, basically EVERY part of the country is in a territory.  If you want to define a territory, it should just be within broadcast range.  I'm a White Sox fan and had Extra Innings and MLB.tv.  I live in New Orleans, so they blacked out any games against Texas, Houston, and Atlanta.

Really??  First of all, no, we don't get Dallas TV stations here.  Secondly, no one down here roots for Texas just because they're kinda sorta closer than other teams.


I guess I'm lucky. I live in Chicago and never fell victim to the black outs. But when I did live in Indiana the only games we could get were Cincinnati games. They even blacked out Cubs games being broadcast on WGN
 
2013-06-24 07:13:19 PM  
Blackout restrictions for MLB are determined partially by region (which has already been mentioned) AND by what broadcast entity (FOX, MLB Network, ESPN/ABC) owns the rights to the game(s)
For example, current rights to broadcast Saturday afternoon games (4pm EST or 7pm EST) are owned exclusively by FOX Sports. If FOX decides to show a non-regional game for their national broadcast in your area, you will be blacked out from your local game on your FOX affiliate. Additionally, if you have purchased additional service through MLB.tv or your cable provider, all but the game broadcast on your local FOX affiliate (the nationally broadcast game) will be blacked out as well.
The Commissioner couldn't change the blackout rules even if he wanted to. I hope you feel better after sending your letter, though.
 
2013-06-24 07:28:59 PM  

ongbok: downstairs: ongbok: This is something that I have seen that really pisses me off, but it has less to do with MLB and more to do with the individual teams. From what I understand teams often claim a territory, that territory may sometimes be hundreds of miles away from them, and they will not let any other teams broadcast in that territory because those are they're fans, unless the other teams pay a fee. Where you live may have been claimed by another team.

Yeah, basically EVERY part of the country is in a territory.  If you want to define a territory, it should just be within broadcast range.  I'm a White Sox fan and had Extra Innings and MLB.tv.  I live in New Orleans, so they blacked out any games against Texas, Houston, and Atlanta.

Really??  First of all, no, we don't get Dallas TV stations here.  Secondly, no one down here roots for Texas just because they're kinda sorta closer than other teams.

I guess I'm lucky. I live in Chicago and never fell victim to the black outs. But when I did live in Indiana the only games we could get were Cincinnati games. They even blacked out Cubs games being broadcast on WGN


Really?  Strange... if you live in Chicago you should not be able to watch Sox or Cubs games, ever, on Extra Innings or MLB.tv.  At least from my experience.  My experience was years ago when I tried to give my friend (who lives in Chicago) my login/password for MLB.tv so he could watch the Sox vs. Cubs day game during work.  It didn't let him.
 
2013-06-24 07:59:39 PM  

Aarontology: Blackout restrictions are seriously one of the dumbest business practices ever.

"Hey, we noticed that you're having trouble filling your seats, so we had a great idea! We'll stop airing your games! That'll totally get people more interested in the team and get them to go to the game. There's no way it'll alienate the already fragile fanbase into giving up on a team."


Frankly, I can't for the life of me figure out how the NFL fills seats every week. The game experience is incredibly expensive and, in most cases, is less entertaining than watching at a sports bar or with some buddies at home. Going to a Seahawks game costs, on average, over $100/person for crap seats (that's including expected food/travel/parking expenses). Yet there's a waiting list for season tickets.
 
2013-06-24 08:00:03 PM  

downstairs: ongbok: downstairs: ongbok: This is something that I have seen that really pisses me off, but it has less to do with MLB and more to do with the individual teams. From what I understand teams often claim a territory, that territory may sometimes be hundreds of miles away from them, and they will not let any other teams broadcast in that territory because those are they're fans, unless the other teams pay a fee. Where you live may have been claimed by another team.

Yeah, basically EVERY part of the country is in a territory.  If you want to define a territory, it should just be within broadcast range.  I'm a White Sox fan and had Extra Innings and MLB.tv.  I live in New Orleans, so they blacked out any games against Texas, Houston, and Atlanta.

Really??  First of all, no, we don't get Dallas TV stations here.  Secondly, no one down here roots for Texas just because they're kinda sorta closer than other teams.

I guess I'm lucky. I live in Chicago and never fell victim to the black outs. But when I did live in Indiana the only games we could get were Cincinnati games. They even blacked out Cubs games being broadcast on WGN

Really?  Strange... if you live in Chicago you should not be able to watch Sox or Cubs games, ever, on Extra Innings or MLB.tv.  At least from my experience.  My experience was years ago when I tried to give my friend (who lives in Chicago) my login/password for MLB.tv so he could watch the Sox vs. Cubs day game during work.  It didn't let him.


Yeah you are right about that. I can't watch Cubs or Sox games on extra innings, but I didn't count those as I can watch them on regular T.V or Cable. But what I was saying is that no other games have ever been blacked out for me.
 
2013-06-24 08:03:51 PM  

Aarontology: Blackout restrictions are seriously one of the dumbest business practices ever.

"Hey, we noticed that you're having trouble filling your seats, so we had a great idea! We'll stop airing your games! That'll totally get people more interested in the team and get them to go to the game. There's no way it'll alienate the already fragile fanbase into giving up on a team."


MLB blackout rules have nothing to do with getting fans to the ballpark.  They're about getting fans to pay for cable stations (or watch OTA broadcasts) who paid millions or billions of dollars for exclusive broadcast rights in an area.

Watching online doesn't give any revenue to those broadcasters.
 
2013-06-24 08:03:51 PM  

ongbok: downstairs: ongbok: downstairs: ongbok: This is something that I have seen that really pisses me off, but it has less to do with MLB and more to do with the individual teams. From what I understand teams often claim a territory, that territory may sometimes be hundreds of miles away from them, and they will not let any other teams broadcast in that territory because those are they're fans, unless the other teams pay a fee. Where you live may have been claimed by another team.

Yeah, basically EVERY part of the country is in a territory.  If you want to define a territory, it should just be within broadcast range.  I'm a White Sox fan and had Extra Innings and MLB.tv.  I live in New Orleans, so they blacked out any games against Texas, Houston, and Atlanta.

Really??  First of all, no, we don't get Dallas TV stations here.  Secondly, no one down here roots for Texas just because they're kinda sorta closer than other teams.

I guess I'm lucky. I live in Chicago and never fell victim to the black outs. But when I did live in Indiana the only games we could get were Cincinnati games. They even blacked out Cubs games being broadcast on WGN

Really?  Strange... if you live in Chicago you should not be able to watch Sox or Cubs games, ever, on Extra Innings or MLB.tv.  At least from my experience.  My experience was years ago when I tried to give my friend (who lives in Chicago) my login/password for MLB.tv so he could watch the Sox vs. Cubs day game during work.  It didn't let him.

Yeah you are right about that. I can't watch Cubs or Sox games on extra innings, but I didn't count those as I can watch them on regular T.V or Cable. But what I was saying is that no other games have ever been blacked out for me.


Oh, of course not... if you're in Chicago, you're in Sox/Cubs territory.  But my point was I'm in New Orleans... and for some bizarre reason I'm in Texas, Houston and Atlanta "territory".  Its completely silly.  People in Montana are in some team's territory too, even though they have no way of actually watching said team without flying to said city.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-24 08:03:59 PM  
generalDisdain

The commissioner can put blackout rules on the agenda for the next broadcast contract talks.
 
2013-06-24 08:05:39 PM  

wxboy: MLB blackout rules have nothing to do with getting fans to the ballpark. They're about getting fans to pay for cable stations (or watch OTA broadcasts) who paid millions or billions of dollars for exclusive broadcast rights in an area.

Watching online doesn't give any revenue to those broadcasters.


And I can understand that.  I think its stupid, but lets just leave that off the table.  The issue is people in remote locations are part of a "territory" for a team they have no way of seeing on cable or OTA.  My random Montana example.
 
2013-06-24 08:08:05 PM  

downstairs: wxboy: MLB blackout rules have nothing to do with getting fans to the ballpark. They're about getting fans to pay for cable stations (or watch OTA broadcasts) who paid millions or billions of dollars for exclusive broadcast rights in an area.

Watching online doesn't give any revenue to those broadcasters.

And I can understand that.  I think its stupid, but lets just leave that off the table.  The issue is people in remote locations are part of a "territory" for a team they have no way of seeing on cable or OTA.  My random Montana example.


This is true, although there should be no reason (if there actually are any) cable providers in those locations can't offer those stations, they just don't.
 
2013-06-24 08:08:46 PM  
If I lived in vegas, I'd move. Problem solved.
 
2013-06-24 08:10:41 PM  

ZAZ: generalDisdain

The commissioner can put blackout rules on the agenda for the next broadcast contract talks.


Point taken. Apologies for omitting the word 'current' from my post.
 
2013-06-24 08:13:10 PM  
Were you given the expressed written consent to complain?
 
2013-06-24 08:13:35 PM  

downstairs: ongbok: downstairs: ongbok: downstairs: ongbok: This is something that I have seen that really pisses me off, but it has less to do with MLB and more to do with the individual teams. From what I understand teams often claim a territory, that territory may sometimes be hundreds of miles away from them, and they will not let any other teams broadcast in that territory because those are they're fans, unless the other teams pay a fee. Where you live may have been claimed by another team.

Yeah, basically EVERY part of the country is in a territory.  If you want to define a territory, it should just be within broadcast range.  I'm a White Sox fan and had Extra Innings and MLB.tv.  I live in New Orleans, so they blacked out any games against Texas, Houston, and Atlanta.

Really??  First of all, no, we don't get Dallas TV stations here.  Secondly, no one down here roots for Texas just because they're kinda sorta closer than other teams.

I guess I'm lucky. I live in Chicago and never fell victim to the black outs. But when I did live in Indiana the only games we could get were Cincinnati games. They even blacked out Cubs games being broadcast on WGN

Really?  Strange... if you live in Chicago you should not be able to watch Sox or Cubs games, ever, on Extra Innings or MLB.tv.  At least from my experience.  My experience was years ago when I tried to give my friend (who lives in Chicago) my login/password for MLB.tv so he could watch the Sox vs. Cubs day game during work.  It didn't let him.

Yeah you are right about that. I can't watch Cubs or Sox games on extra innings, but I didn't count those as I can watch them on regular T.V or Cable. But what I was saying is that no other games have ever been blacked out for me.

Oh, of course not... if you're in Chicago, you're in Sox/Cubs territory.  But my point was I'm in New Orleans... and for some bizarre reason I'm in Texas, Houston and Atlanta "territory".  Its completely silly.  People in Montana are in some team's territory ...


I remember when the Nationals were starting up the Orioles were raising hell about broadcast rights and the Nationals would be stealing their fans if they were allowed to broadcast in the same area the Orioles were. It was all settled with a big bag of money, but that shows how teams view their territories. I guess the Cubs and the Sox feel that they have enough of a base that they can let other teams broadcast in the Chicago area, but other teams aren't that confident I guess. Like I said before, when I lived in central Indiana we could only get Reds games, WGN didn't even broadcast Cub or Sox games there. I am truly sorry that you have been deemed Texas territory. But hell, all you are missing this year with the Sox is a bunch of frustration.
 
2013-06-24 08:17:49 PM  
Dear Sin_City_Superhero
 I am sorry that you are unhappy with the MLB blackout restrictions.
However, with a MLB audio subscription you can listen to all MLB games without any restrictions.
The cost is only $19.99 per year.

Thanks.
The Commissioner

/that oughta take care of the little b*stard
 
2013-06-24 08:17:56 PM  

ongbok: downstairs: ongbok: downstairs: ongbok: downstairs: ongbok: This is something that I have seen that really pisses me off, but it has less to do with MLB and more to do with the individual teams. From what I understand teams often claim a territory, that territory may sometimes be hundreds of miles away from them, and they will not let any other teams broadcast in that territory because those are they're fans, unless the other teams pay a fee. Where you live may have been claimed by another team.

Yeah, basically EVERY part of the country is in a territory.  If you want to define a territory, it should just be within broadcast range.  I'm a White Sox fan and had Extra Innings and MLB.tv.  I live in New Orleans, so they blacked out any games against Texas, Houston, and Atlanta.

Really??  First of all, no, we don't get Dallas TV stations here.  Secondly, no one down here roots for Texas just because they're kinda sorta closer than other teams.

I guess I'm lucky. I live in Chicago and never fell victim to the black outs. But when I did live in Indiana the only games we could get were Cincinnati games. They even blacked out Cubs games being broadcast on WGN

Really?  Strange... if you live in Chicago you should not be able to watch Sox or Cubs games, ever, on Extra Innings or MLB.tv.  At least from my experience.  My experience was years ago when I tried to give my friend (who lives in Chicago) my login/password for MLB.tv so he could watch the Sox vs. Cubs day game during work.  It didn't let him.

Yeah you are right about that. I can't watch Cubs or Sox games on extra innings, but I didn't count those as I can watch them on regular T.V or Cable. But what I was saying is that no other games have ever been blacked out for me.

Oh, of course not... if you're in Chicago, you're in Sox/Cubs territory.  But my point was I'm in New Orleans... and for some bizarre reason I'm in Texas, Houston and Atlanta "territory".  Its completely silly.  People in Montana are in some team ...


Ha!  Indeed!  I am missing nothing but a totally craptastic year.  Oh well, at least the Blackhawks are providing me some entertainment.

Yeah... complaining about not seeing a few Sox and/or Cubs games in 2013 is kinda silly ;)
 
2013-06-24 08:22:07 PM  
This conversation is too civil. Ban the DH!
 
2013-06-24 08:32:04 PM  
I solved this by buying my brother, who still lives back east, a slingbox. I just watch his tv when Fox picks the wrong team.
 
2013-06-24 08:32:49 PM  
Baseball was made for kids, and grown-ups only screw it up. ~Bob Lemon
 
2013-06-24 08:35:19 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Sin_City_Superhero
My Address
Las Vegas, NV Zip Code

RE: MLB Blackout Restrictions

Major League Baseball
The Office of the Commissioner of Baseball
Allen H. Selig, Commissioner
245 Park Avenue
31st Floor
New York, NY 10167

Dear Commissioner Selig,

I have been a baseball fan for as long as I can remember, but I have always been confused about MLB's blackout restrictions. As I understand it, non-sellouts are blacked out locally to encourage fans to go out to the stadium. What I cannot understand is why regions that don't have an MLB team nearby are subjected to this. In Las Vegas, for example, there are six teams that are blacked out, the nearest of which is over four hours away. That means that on any given day there are as many as twelve teams that are not viewable in Las Vegas. That's almost half of the league!

And these are games that I couldn't go to if I wanted to. It's not like I can drive out to Chavez Ravine or AT&T Park after work. Let's look at the numbers, shall we:

• L.A. Dodgers - 274 miles (4 hours 15 minutes)
• L.A. Angels of Anaheim - 267 miles (4 hours 10 minutes)
• Oakland A's - 551 miles (8 hours 30 minutes)
• San Francisco Giants - 568 miles (8 hours 50 minutes)
• San Diego Padres - 335 miles (5 hours)
• Arizona Diamondbacks - 289 (4 hours 50 minutes)

Furthermore, If the goal is to separate me from my money...



First of all, rest assured separating you from your money is the goal.

Second, we solved the problem by subscribing to MLB.tv premium.  $129.00 per year +/-, laptop with an HDMI port connected to an HDTV.  Use a proxy when necessary.  Overseas proxies seem to have the most success.  The only games we can't get are the national broadcasts of network TV or ESPN.  We haven't been shut out of a non national broadcast yet.

Best price and you get every game (with/without proxy) that isn't on ESPN or Faux.
 
2013-06-24 08:36:45 PM  
I live about 100 miles south of you, Sin_City_Superhero, and was just discussing your letter with my brother who is a MLB Package subscriber. He agrees with you 100%. Please keep us posted on any reply Commissioner Selig may make. I'd love to hear MLB's logic on their arbitrary restrictions.

We may follow your lead and write a letter ourselves. We'll probably also encourage Bud to give some thought to the A's situation regarding San Jose. I don't care what he decides, it's more important that he make one. A wrong decision is better than no decision.
 
2013-06-24 08:36:46 PM  
I have a better cause for you to take up, subby.

assets.nydailynews.com
 
2013-06-24 08:54:05 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: I have a better cause for you to take up, subby.

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x517]


OK. I'll work on getting rid of the Indians next...
 
2013-06-24 08:58:29 PM  
Proposed rule change:

Pucks deflected off of a defensive player's stick that hit the netting and fall back into play are considered a live puck.

Objections?
 
2013-06-24 09:01:25 PM  
Whoops.
 
2013-06-24 09:01:53 PM  
You sound like a self entitled twat.

/baseball sucks
 
2013-06-24 09:02:15 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Popcorn Johnny: I have a better cause for you to take up, subby.

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x517]

OK. I'll work on getting rid of the Indians next...


lulz
 
2013-06-24 09:03:38 PM  
Subby is assuming Bud Selig can read.
 
2013-06-24 09:12:13 PM  
"If you don't like it, the next one's FREE!"

But I didn't like the first one.
 
2013-06-24 09:19:04 PM  
Fun fact for baseball fans. Right after watching the pine tar incident on tv Richard Nixon wrote a letter to the commish protesting the call. It's in KC on loan from Cooperstown.
 
2013-06-24 09:21:00 PM  

Shame Us: Going to a Seahawks game costs, on average, over $100/person for crap seats (that's including expected food/travel/parking expenses).


Sweet baby Jesus I WISH! That INCLUDES food, travel, & parking? That's a got-damned miracle, if you ask me.
 
2013-06-24 09:22:18 PM  
I have cable and what's blackout?
 
2013-06-24 09:22:57 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: As I understand it, non-sellouts are blacked out locally to encourage fans to go out to the stadium.


Then you don't understand it at all.  MLB blackouts don't have anything to do with sellouts.  Did you even read the Wikipedia article you linked?
 
2013-06-24 09:26:12 PM  

Shame Us: Frankly, I can't for the life of me figure out how the NFL fills seats every week. The game experience is incredibly expensive and, in most cases, is less entertaining than watching at a sports bar or with some buddies at home. Going to a Seahawks game costs, on average, over $100/person for crap seats (that's including expected food/travel/parking expenses). Yet there's a waiting list for season tickets.


Packers country. I know exactly how they fill seats every week: that's literally what's holding the town together in the same way cars are what hold (well, held) Detroit together, or like gambling holds Las Vegas together, or like tourism holds together any small town of significant historical value (e.g. Gettysburg). But I get the same vibe on price. For $25, you can get a right-field bleacher seat at Miller Park, or any seat in the house for a Milwaukee Admirals game. It's $74 minimum for a Lambeau seat, putting you in the endzone ($94 for a seat between the 20's; the seating-bowl arrangement at Lambeau puts a dent in any plans to charge by deck so you have to charge by yardline). That's before any added costs like food or parking.

Bucks seats? Hell if I know. Nobody goes to that bullshiat anyway.
 
2013-06-24 09:30:30 PM  
Wasted effort. Bud Selig believes any written word is demon tongue, and will refuse to respond to any form of communication that doesn't involve fire in some way.
 
2013-06-24 09:31:56 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: I have been a baseball fan for as long as I can remember, but I have always been confused about MLB's blackout restrictions. As I understand it, non-sellouts are blacked out locally to encourage fans to go out to the stadium. What I cannot understand is why regions that don't have an MLB team nearby are subjected to this. In Las Vegas, for example, there are six teams that are blacked out, the nearest of which is over four hours away. That means that on any given day there are as many as twelve teams that are not viewable in Las Vegas. That's almost half of the league!


How many of those teams can you watch on cable/network TV in Vegas?
 
2013-06-24 09:33:22 PM  
Move to Seattle.

They only blackout Mariners games*, which is probably a good thing.

*and, of course national broadcasts (ESPN, FOX)
 
2013-06-24 09:33:56 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Sin_City_Superhero


As a fellow Las Vegas resident affected by these same ridiculous blackout rules (go Dodgers!), you, sir, are a hero.
 
2013-06-24 09:36:47 PM  
Subby bra your self a form letter is coming.
 
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