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2013-06-24 06:45:25 PM
didn't see the bike in the headlights?
 
2013-06-24 07:18:19 PM

boloabs: didn't see the bike in the headlights?


At 9:15 AM?

/there's something a bit odd here...
 
2013-06-24 07:35:12 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: /there's something a bit odd here...


Agreed. 'Nother article I read said that "bystanders" actually helped her with her car and looked for the deer... and that the dude was found down the road. Wtf?

Maybe she really did hit a deer that ran off... and somebody used it as an opportunity to beat this guy to death and leave him by the side of the road.

/the perfect crime
 
2013-06-24 07:57:29 PM
Damn fixie riding deers
 
2013-06-24 07:58:44 PM
*clicks on link*

*closes eyes*


icantwatchisitoveryet.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-24 07:59:13 PM
content7.flixster.com
Ma, it's a sin
 
2013-06-24 08:01:36 PM

Abox: [content7.flixster.com image 359x198]
Ma, it's a sin


The hoof!
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-24 08:01:57 PM
cdn2-b.examiner.com
 
2013-06-24 08:05:39 PM
I call shenanigans. She totally knew it was a person she hit but left the scene of the crime, drove 3 miles down the rode and got her alibi by getting innocent bystanders to help her look for the 'deer' she hit. "I'm beautiful and capable of no wrong. Now help me with my alibi so my pretty butt doesn't get raped in jail. Also I was texting."
 
2013-06-24 08:09:18 PM

Pray 4 Mojo: MaudlinMutantMollusk: /there's something a bit odd here...

Agreed. 'Nother article I read said that "bystanders" actually helped her with her car and looked for the deer... and that the dude was found down the road. Wtf?

Maybe she really did hit a deer that ran off... and somebody used it as an opportunity to beat this guy to death and leave him by the side of the road.

/the perfect crime


Hold on, let me write this down...
 
2013-06-24 08:10:28 PM

Onyxdreams: I call shenanigans. She totally knew it was a person she hit but left the scene of the crime, drove 3 miles down the rode and got her alibi by getting innocent bystanders to help her look for the 'deer' she hit. "I'm beautiful and capable of no wrong. Now help me with my alibi so my pretty butt doesn't get raped in jail. Also I was texting."


Yeah, I say she was texting.  Or doing her makeup.  Or reading People magazine.  Or all three.
 
2013-06-24 08:13:09 PM
 
2013-06-24 08:15:18 PM
She killed a person -

one bullet solution for her, whether she was texting or not, whether she thought it was a deer or not.
 
2013-06-24 08:16:23 PM
I guess one of the ITGs finally made good on their promise.  I bet the bicyclist made a rolling stop and deserved to get pasted.
 
2013-06-24 08:17:41 PM
New set of magic words.
So far they working. She has been arrested or ticketed.

It's legal to kill a bicyclist in the USA so long as one does not leave the scene, is sober, and says the magic words. "I didn't see him", "he veered right out in front of me", and variants of those are typical.

Trying a new set of words is risky.
 
2013-06-24 08:19:04 PM
Was the cyclist coming right for her? That's kind of important.
 
2013-06-24 08:19:44 PM
Reminds me of the episode of cops where the scene opens with a car in a ditch.  The driver is smiling and saying, "It just slid off the road."  The whole time, she's got this innocent, bewildered look on her face like she doesn't understand why her car is in the ditch.  Then they pull the car out and there's an impact crater in the windshield where something big obviously hit the vehicle.  As the officers are looking at the damage, a bloody kid comes staggering up the road.  That woman kept playing dumb right up to the time the kid showed up.  She would have left him dying in the ditch if she could have gotten away with it.
 
2013-06-24 08:21:37 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Was the cyclist coming right for her? That's kind of important.


The cyclist probably made a kicking motion in the direction of the passenger door.
 
2013-06-24 08:27:47 PM

jtown: Reminds me of the episode of cops where the scene opens with a car in a ditch.  The driver is smiling and saying, "It just slid off the road."  The whole time, she's got this innocent, bewildered look on her face like she doesn't understand why her car is in the ditch.  Then they pull the car out and there's an impact crater in the windshield where something big obviously hit the vehicle.  As the officers are looking at the damage, a bloody kid comes staggering up the road.  That woman kept playing dumb right up to the time the kid showed up.  She would have left him dying in the ditch if she could have gotten away with it.


You realize that shock is a real thing, right?
 
2013-06-24 08:28:47 PM
 
2013-06-24 08:29:36 PM
she struck Williams, immobilizing her car

Huh? What immobilized her car? The bike? The guy's body? I'm seriously confused.
 
2013-06-24 08:31:38 PM

epoch_destroi: j

You realize that shock is a real thing, right?


Sure, but shock and CYA are two different things.  I've seen them both and it's not tough to tell the difference.
 
2013-06-24 08:32:02 PM
Early one morning a few years ago, about 6:30, I hit a deer as I was driving out of town. It jumped a ditch and was in front of me before I could do anything more than go "oh nonononononono!" and slam on the brakes. I went right over the deer, and mercifully it was killed immediately.

But even in the early light of the day, there is no way I could have mistaken the deer for anything else. I can't imagine in the full light of day, mistaking a cyclist for a deer. I wonder what we're not being told.
 
2013-06-24 08:35:04 PM

Klivian: Damn fixie riding deers


img0.etsystatic.com
 
2013-06-24 08:35:50 PM

Sass-O-Rev: I wonder what we're not being told.


The truth.
 
2013-06-24 08:37:01 PM

mafiageek1980: Obligatory (NSFW):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQXKqbjicTs


He gawt hisself a TAR ARN.
 
2013-06-24 08:38:36 PM
scattered on dawn's highway, eggs and indians

I'm conflating with the mushroom thread
 
2013-06-24 08:46:02 PM
FTA: Investigators are continuing to investigate, the release said.

Did the release say anything about "haters"?
 
2013-06-24 08:46:03 PM

Onyxdreams: I call shenanigans. She totally knew it was a person she hit but left the scene of the crime, drove 3 miles down the rode and got her alibi by getting innocent bystanders to help her look for the 'deer' she hit. "I'm beautiful and capable of no wrong. Now help me with my alibi so my pretty butt doesn't get raped in jail. Also I was texting."


The accident immobilized her car - so that would be pretty impressive.

I hit a deer at 60 mph because it jumped out of a treeline on a two lane highway and the trees came right up to the road.  I had no idea what I had hit right after it happened, primarily because all of the front airbags blew.   I also live near route301 in rural Va, and since cyclists don't want to ride on 301 because of heavy traffic, they frequently take side roads to make a circuit, and that includes my road.  Thankfully, most of them ride in highly visible groups with plenty of flashing lights, because my road is 10 miles long and barely 2 car-widths wide.  The speed limit is 55.  It's a great road for cyclists as long as no one is driving on it, otherwise it's full of blind curves, farm equipment, no shoulders, no painted lines, and any number of other dangers.  It's barely safe to drive on in a car.

I could easily see someone hitting a lone cyclist in the country while driving and thinking they hit a deer.  If you're going fast enough or aren't paying attention, the result is probably the same:  body goes flying, car is destroyed, driver is disoriented because they've just had an impact with something pretty massive.  Then you have to figure out what you hit.  Contrary to what you think, suddenly hitting something with your car takes place in less than a second, so your capability to comprehend detail is compromised.

I'd give her the benefit of the doubt, if only because I've been there with a deer.  I didn't process seeing the farker before I hit it (6 point buck) and only after I found it was I sure of what I hit.
 
2013-06-24 08:48:36 PM
Lsherm:

I'd give her the benefit of the doubt, if only because I've been there with a deer.  I didn't process seeing the farker before I hit it (6 point buck) and only after I found it was I sure of what I hit.

Did you eat it?
 
2013-06-24 08:49:50 PM

Lsherm: Onyxdreams: I call shenanigans. She totally knew it was a person she hit but left the scene of the crime, drove 3 miles down the rode and got her alibi by getting innocent bystanders to help her look for the 'deer' she hit. "I'm beautiful and capable of no wrong. Now help me with my alibi so my pretty butt doesn't get raped in jail. Also I was texting."

The accident immobilized her car - so that would be pretty impressive.

I hit a deer at 60 mph because it jumped out of a treeline on a two lane highway and the trees came right up to the road.  I had no idea what I had hit right after it happened, primarily because all of the front airbags blew.   I also live near route301 in rural Va, and since cyclists don't want to ride on 301 because of heavy traffic, they frequently take side roads to make a circuit, and that includes my road.  Thankfully, most of them ride in highly visible groups with plenty of flashing lights, because my road is 10 miles long and barely 2 car-widths wide.  The speed limit is 55.  It's a great road for cyclists as long as no one is driving on it, otherwise it's full of blind curves, farm equipment, no shoulders, no painted lines, and any number of other dangers.  It's barely safe to drive on in a car.

I could easily see someone hitting a lone cyclist in the country while driving and thinking they hit a deer.  If you're going fast enough or aren't paying attention, the result is probably the same:  body goes flying, car is destroyed, driver is disoriented because they've just had an impact with something pretty massive.  Then you have to figure out what you hit.  Contrary to what you think, suddenly hitting something with your car takes place in less than a second, so your capability to comprehend detail is compromised.

I'd give her the benefit of the doubt, if only because I've been there with a deer.  I didn't process seeing the farker before I hit it (6 point buck) and only after I found it was I sure of what I hit.


I doubt that the bike suddenly jumped out of the treeline.
 
2013-06-24 08:55:22 PM
every dang drunk in iowa who has hit the ditch or nailed a 'stop' sign knows the magic words (the next day, while sober): "Damned deer jumped out in front of me"
 
2013-06-24 08:57:55 PM

MNguy: Lsherm:

I'd give her the benefit of the doubt, if only because I've been there with a deer.  I didn't process seeing the farker before I hit it (6 point buck) and only after I found it was I sure of what I hit.

Did you eat it?


By the time the tow truck got there someone in a pickup had already asked "you want that?" and was loading it into his truck.

Raoul Eaton: I doubt that the bike suddenly jumped out of the treeline.


I doubt it too - maybe she was coming around a corner, or maybe she wasn't paying attention.  I sincerely doubt she was 'aiming for him.'

fusillade762: Huh? What immobilized her car? The bike? The guy's body? I'm seriously confused.


Probably the body.  This was from a deer that couldn't have weighed more than 130-140 pounds:

img199.imageshack.us

Pushed the radiator right up into the engine block and destroyed the entire serpentine bracket.  Since the deer came from the driver's side, that left fender took the bulk of the blow, but that's some pretty solid steel that got bent. Two blown airbags and a shattered windshield and the car wasn't going anywhere.

A 58 year old man?  He'd likely do the same amount of damage if not more.
 
2013-06-24 08:58:30 PM

Lsherm: Onyxdreams: I call shenanigans. She totally knew it was a person she hit but left the scene of the crime, drove 3 miles down the rode and got her alibi by getting innocent bystanders to help her look for the 'deer' she hit. "I'm beautiful and capable of no wrong. Now help me with my alibi so my pretty butt doesn't get raped in jail. Also I was texting."

The accident immobilized her car - so that would be pretty impressive.

I hit a deer at 60 mph because it jumped out of a treeline on a two lane highway and the trees came right up to the road.  I had no idea what I had hit right after it happened, primarily because all of the front airbags blew.   I also live near route301 in rural Va, and since cyclists don't want to ride on 301 because of heavy traffic, they frequently take side roads to make a circuit, and that includes my road.  Thankfully, most of them ride in highly visible groups with plenty of flashing lights, because my road is 10 miles long and barely 2 car-widths wide.  The speed limit is 55.  It's a great road for cyclists as long as no one is driving on it, otherwise it's full of blind curves, farm equipment, no shoulders, no painted lines, and any number of other dangers.  It's barely safe to drive on in a car.

I could easily see someone hitting a lone cyclist in the country while driving and thinking they hit a deer.  If you're going fast enough or aren't paying attention, the result is probably the same:  body goes flying, car is destroyed, driver is disoriented because they've just had an impact with something pretty massive.  Then you have to figure out what you hit.  Contrary to what you think, suddenly hitting something with your car takes place in less than a second, so your capability to comprehend detail is compromised.

I'd give her the benefit of the doubt, if only because I've been there with a deer.  I didn't process seeing the farker before I hit it (6 point buck) and only after I found it was I sure of what I hit.


I'm going to go out on a limb and guess the bicyclist didn't charge out of a ditch or treeline at 30 mph straight across the road. It was 9:15 AM in Iowa, where things tend to be straight and flat. Sounds like visibility was good. biatch wasn't watching where she was going and is lying.

/my father-in-law had his driver side door headbutted by a deer while he was doing 70 down the highway
//cyclists tend to be a little smarter than that
///not really
 
2013-06-24 09:03:51 PM

InsaneJelloTroll: /my father-in-law had his driver side door headbutted by a deer while he was doing 70 down the highway


I had a deer try to do that a year later but I was slowing down to pull into my driveway.  My neighbor claimed it was aggression because the car growled like a bull, but I always doubted that.

It's still a little unnerving to see a deer come off the side of the road and try to run alongside you while attempting a headbutt.
 
2013-06-24 09:06:35 PM
Maybe he was rutting? Or maybe deer are just dumb as hell.
 
2013-06-24 09:08:44 PM
man hater.

if this had been a man who killed a woman, you can bet there would be a full investigation.   Detectives
would be seizing his PC and all storage media for the purpose of searching for any signs of misogyny.

but no, we have a woman claiming it was an accident.   We Take Her Word For It.  Just Like That.

Screw this society.  Putting the pussy on the pedestal is a classic symptom of decline.
 
2013-06-24 09:11:38 PM
www.jensonusa.com
 
2013-06-24 09:15:31 PM
farm2.static.flickr.com
 
2013-06-24 09:19:03 PM
My brother called my mom's house on Christmas Eve.  He'd hit a deer just a few miles before he would have arrived at the house, and his car was totalled.  It was snowing out, and only going to get worse.  A cop was on the scene and a tow truck was on the way.  I put on my shoes and headed out to pick him up.

As I drove down Rt. 20 to get him, I was partially blinded by the snow and then by the cops floodlights.  He was facing Westbound, pulled onto the shoulder.  I could hazily see my brother's white Crown Vic parked in  a lonely driveway on the north side of the road.  Houses are few and far between along this stretch.  I start to pull over onto the southern shoulder, barely able to see between the snow and the lights, and suddenly, right in front of me, lying dead on the shoulder of the road is my brother.  His watch was stopped at 8:45.  We'd got the call at 9:12.

.
.
.

No, totally messing with you.  It was the damn dead deer.  I slammed on my brakes and skid through the snow.  The front bumper on my tiny Nissan stopped about a foot away from the dead deer, and maybe three feet away from totalling my car too.
 
2013-06-24 09:30:53 PM
"No, totally messing with you.  It was the damn dead deer.  I slammed on my brakes and skid through the snow.  The front bumper on my tiny Nissan stopped about a foot away from the dead deer, and maybe three feet away from totalling my car too."

/NCSB
//Meh. Dead brother woulda been a better story.
 
2013-06-24 09:34:53 PM
It is stories like that which make me want to take a small anti-tank mine with me when I ride, set to go off if my heart stops. When the weather is shiatty I have one of these www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2346  It is even uglier than it looks in the picture and it positively glows when light hits it, and that is just the yellow material. The reflective stuff is visible for a good long way too. Though usually I am far to big to easily not see, and the bike is covered with reflector crap too so I usually don't have a problem with people trying to kill me.

/A coworker looked at the jacket when I bought it and said "If you wear that riding there is no way in hell someone could hit you and claim they did not see you."

//I agreed and said that the jacket would upgrade any charges laid to first degree murder
 
2013-06-24 09:39:13 PM
Her car was immobilized.  She looked for the deer.  She didn't find a deer, nor a bicyclist.  The guy wasn't found until the next day.
 
2013-06-24 09:39:20 PM

InsaneJelloTroll: Maybe he was rutting? Or maybe deer are just dumb as hell.


I think both.  They come out in September-October for the really stupid stuff, and then you have to deal with the fawns in May-June.

But deer are stupid, there's no doubt.  Pigeons with four legs.
 
2013-06-24 09:39:38 PM
Yeah, I'll go with what someone said earlier; it's hard to see what yu hit when you're looking down at your phone instead of the road. It's a goddamned plague out there.
 
2013-06-24 09:41:25 PM

Omahawg: every dang drunk in iowa who has hit the ditch or nailed a 'stop' sign knows the magic words (the next day, while sober): "Damned deer jumped out in front of me"


this was 9:15am saturday morning.
 
2013-06-24 09:42:31 PM
Hm. Maybe she hit the deer, and the deer went on to hit the bicyclist...

http://www.lohud.com/article/20130513/NEWS/305130117/Medical-examiner - Blunt-force-trauma-killed-N-Salem-bicyclist-who-hit-deer

/do the doomsday preppers have a plan for rabid deer on the attack?
 
2013-06-24 09:44:18 PM

Jormungandr: It is stories like that which make me want to take a small anti-tank mine with me when I ride, set to go off if my heart stops. When the weather is shiatty I have one of these www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2346  It is even uglier than it looks in the picture and it positively glows when light hits it, and that is just the yellow material. The reflective stuff is visible for a good long way too. Though usually I am far to big to easily not see, and the bike is covered with reflector crap too so I usually don't have a problem with people trying to kill me.

/A coworker looked at the jacket when I bought it and said "If you wear that riding there is no way in hell someone could hit you and claim they did not see you."

//I agreed and said that the jacket would upgrade any charges laid to first degree murder


If you ride in the country, the light from the car has to hit you first, reflect back, and then the driver has to react.  It's a passive response system that can require extra precious seconds.

Around here (and I'm thankful for it) - cyclists ride with red strobe lights on the back and white strobe lights on the front, and they ride with them all the time.  In my opinion, if you are riding on a road without a dedicated bike lane they should be mandatory.  They are already mandatory for tractors, and fark, tractors are goddamn HUGE compared to a cyclist.

Get some strobe lights.  Even the less bright LED ones make you noticeable before a car's lights can hit you and light up your reflective vest.  It's the best possible thing you can do for visibility.
 
2013-06-24 09:44:31 PM
www.wholelifehealth.ca
 
2013-06-24 09:50:42 PM
 
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