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(Mental Floss)   The six Superman movies that didn't get made, including the awesome-sounding "Superman V", an insane Kevin Smith-written movie with Sean Penn as a Superman that couldn't fly, and fought giant spiders, and of course, "Batman vs. Superman"-dammit   ( divider line
    More: Interesting, Sean Penn, Dammit!, Batman, giant spiders, Reeve's Superman, humans, Superman IV, James Marsden  
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2013-06-24 09:27:23 PM  
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Man of Steel overcompensates for the problems of Superman Returns.

Neither achieves a good balance between human drama vs. action. Whereas 'Returns' focuses a bit too much on human drama and relationships, and not enough action, Man of Steel has no time for genuine human emotion or drama, and becomes mind-numbing in its overuse of action.

The Reeves Superman I and II are cheesy products of their time, but they DID hit the right balance between those two competing forces.
2013-06-24 05:17:33 PM  
2 votes:
Remember: something can always be worse
2013-06-24 11:52:43 PM  
1 vote:

You Are All Sheep: However, my biggest issue is, Superman depowers himself when fighting humans, especially a 'friend'. the Cardboard speech comes to mind. So lets say brainiac/mental type villain, takes complete control of superman, or makes him an unquestioning slave. Batman has monitors to show him superman, but when villain says "kill batman", batman is just dead. Superman can fly faster than any video signal would reach batman and a superman with no qualms would make batpaste pretty quickly. As fast as batman can think, he's human, and thinks at human speed. Even the flash would tear batman up.

Poison Ivy did that to Superman and Batman still beat him.

Always remember:  Batman does not fight fair.  The battle is half over before he ever throws a punch.
2013-06-24 08:52:27 PM  
1 vote:

Somaticasual: Batman vs. superman would be a one-minute bloodbath. You have a very mortal, albeit driven, quasi-hero against a full-fledged, invicible, bullet-proof hero. It'd be a like a cat playing with a mouse for a few seconds, then bam - the most depressing funeral in the history of mankind.

You know how I know you didn't read Frank Miller's "Dark Knight Returns"?
2013-06-24 06:24:35 PM  
1 vote:
To summarize:  Everyone wanted to kill Superman, bring him back, and have him fight Brainiac.  No one has actually used Brainiac yet.  Giant spider.  Gay R2-D2.
2013-06-24 06:06:41 PM  
1 vote:

kwame: After watching Man of Steel and seeing all the muted colors and "gritty" film rendering, I went back home and watched Superman Returns again.  It's funny.  I didn't remember SR being such a beautifully filmed movie.

I thought I was the only person thinking this.  The muted colors bugged the hell out of me.  Superman Returns had exactly the right tone and visuals, despite misgivings about its storyline.  Superman is supposed to be vibrant and beautiful, "pop joy" is a good description that I read somewhere.  But MoS tried too hard to be like Nolan's Batman trilogy.
2013-06-24 05:04:54 PM  
1 vote:
Development hell like this is the reason Superman Returns didn't do well enough with $300 million.

Kevin Smith's Prince story is pretty good, too, but I don't get how he still churned out speaking engagements when he wasn't rubbing elbows with insane showbiz folk and thus had nothing interesting to talk about
2013-06-24 04:51:04 PM  
1 vote:

Uzzah: Peters also laid down three rules for the script: Superman couldn't wear his familiar red-and-blue costume, Superman couldn't fly, and Superman had to fight a giant spider in the story's third act.

... which Peters then recycled into the climax of "Wild Wild West."

That's probably my favorite Kevin Smith story.
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