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(NE Mississippi Daily Journal)   Mississippi no longer worst state in which to raise children. Now, if they could get all the state's residents on a diet, and replace all the bullet riddled road signs, the place would look just like Switzerland   (djournal.com) divider line 76
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2013-06-24 01:31:14 PM
Wow, and they're even proud of it. Wanna bet they didn't get any better, and New Mexico just got worse?
 
2013-06-24 01:46:15 PM

show me: Wow, and they're even proud of it. Wanna bet they didn't get any better, and New Mexico just got worse?


Isn't New Mexico full of Indian reservations?  Nothing against American Indians at all, but poverty is a huge issue on tribal lands.
 
2013-06-24 02:17:27 PM
We never won the War on Poverty.
 
2013-06-24 02:17:32 PM
Well done subby.  I spit potato chips all over my desk due to laughing.
 
2013-06-24 02:18:21 PM
Do they consistently vote Repub?
 
2013-06-24 02:19:27 PM
wait, wait, wait.....you're telling me there's a NEW Mexico?

oh, like our immigration problems weren't bad enough.  Thanks Obama....
 
2013-06-24 02:20:18 PM
I'll apologize in advance for the tower o' text:

Overall Rank

1 New Hampshire
2 Vermont
3 Massachusetts
4 Minnesota
5 New Jersey
6 North Dakota
7 Iowa
8 Nebraska
9 Connecticut
10 Maryland
11 Virginia
12 Wisconsin
13 Maine
14 Utah
15 Wyoming
16 Kansas
17 Pennsylvania
18 South Dakota
19 Washington
20 Idaho
21 Colorado
22 Delaware
23 Illinois
24 Ohio
25 Hawaii
26 Rhode Island
27 Missouri
28 Montana
29 New York
30 Indiana
31 Michigan
32 Oregon
33 Alaska
34 Kentucky
35 North Carolina
36 Oklahoma
37 West Virginia
38 Florida
39 Tennessee
40 Arkansas
41 California
42 Texas
43 Georgia
44 Alabama
45 South Carolina
46 Louisiana
47 Arizona
48 Nevada
49 Mississippi
50 New Mexico


The whole report (7.1MB PDF) is available here: http://datacenter.kidscount.org/files/2013KIDSCOUNTDataBook.pdf
 
2013-06-24 02:22:40 PM
Yeah, New Mexico!
We're #50!

/raising a child in NM.
 
2013-06-24 02:23:19 PM
Oxford, MS is an awesome town, for the record.
 
2013-06-24 02:23:20 PM
Rankings suck. No matter how good or bad things are, there will always be a first and a last place. Just report on the scores. That way at least we can make judgements on how good or bad things are.
 
2013-06-24 02:23:23 PM
What will they do in Mississippi with their log piles and alpenhorns?
 
2013-06-24 02:25:59 PM
It's entirely possible those aren't all bullet holes. A beer bottle hurled at a stop sign while you're going 60 mph (or faster) through it can do a lot of damage.

/How all y'all doin?
 
2013-06-24 02:28:55 PM
Moving on up.
 
2013-06-24 02:29:18 PM

nekom: show me: Wow, and they're even proud of it. Wanna bet they didn't get any better, and New Mexico just got worse?

Isn't New Mexico full of Indian reservations?  Nothing against American Indians at all, but poverty is a huge issue on tribal lands.


As is alcoholism, drug buse, malnutrition . . .

But, hey, they got the casinos now, so it's all good.

/ratings and rankings are trolling of the first order
 
2013-06-24 02:31:01 PM
34 Kentucky
35 North Carolina
36 Oklahoma
37 West Virginia
38 Florida
39 Tennessee
40 Arkansas
41 California
42 Texas
43 Georgia
44 Alabama
45 South Carolina
46 Louisiana
47 Arizona
48 Nevada
49 Mississippi
50 New Mexico


Besides Cali, anyone seeing a trend here?
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2013-06-24 02:32:41 PM

show me: Wanna bet they didn't get any better, and New Mexico just got worse?


New Mexico is now last only because Mississippi doesn't have any science teachers smart enough to become meth kingpins.

/Magnets
 
2013-06-24 02:34:25 PM
Fun fact:

Mississippi is one of only two states that does not allow religious or philosophical exemptions from vaccination.

It shares this distinction with West Virginia.

So it's got that going for it.
 
2013-06-24 02:34:29 PM

deanis: 34 Kentucky
35 North Carolina
36 Oklahoma
37 West Virginia
38 Florida
39 Tennessee
40 Arkansas
41 California
42 Texas
43 Georgia
44 Alabama
45 South Carolina
46 Louisiana
47 Arizona
48 Nevada
49 Mississippi
50 New Mexico

Besides Cali, anyone seeing a trend here?


As someone who lives in AZ, I'm going to assume...Red State?
 
2013-06-24 02:36:12 PM

deanis: 34 Kentucky
35 North Carolina
36 Oklahoma
37 West Virginia
38 Florida
39 Tennessee
40 Arkansas
41 California
42 Texas
43 Georgia
44 Alabama
45 South Carolina
46 Louisiana
47 Arizona
48 Nevada
49 Mississippi
50 New Mexico

Besides Cali, anyone seeing a trend here?

imageshack.us

I'm so proud for my state. Finally a list we're not number one or 50 on.
 
2013-06-24 02:37:38 PM
zulius:

As someone who lives in AZ, I'm going to assume...Red State?

New Mexico isn't really a 'red state' though.  At least not the last couple of election cycles.
 
2013-06-24 02:38:20 PM

deanis: 34 Kentucky
35 North Carolina
36 Oklahoma
37 West Virginia
38 Florida
39 Tennessee
40 Arkansas
41 California
42 Texas
43 Georgia
44 Alabama
45 South Carolina
46 Louisiana
47 Arizona
48 Nevada
49 Mississippi
50 New Mexico

Besides Cali, anyone seeing a trend here?


Red states?

This is probably some kind of 'libruhl' ranking system... doesn't count on things like 'reduced size of state government' and the bootstrappiness quotient of citizens and or things like doomsday preparedness... stockpile of guns and ammo...  you know, the important things.
 
2013-06-24 02:39:33 PM
If you know your state is a shiathole, why stay in that shiathole?

//Left Texass five years ago.  It was the best thing that I ever did!
//It took two decades to leave, but I finally did.
 
2013-06-24 02:39:35 PM
What I hate about lists by ranking like this (and maybe more, the way they're reported), is that no matter how much things improve there's always going to be someone at the bottom. It doesn't matter how good things are or how little difference there is between the top and bottom.

There's nothing about this that's a competition, so what the point of the ranking? Shouldn't the focus just be on what's right, what's wrong, and how things can be improved?
 
2013-06-24 02:40:07 PM
Have they stopped inbreeding?
 
2013-06-24 02:43:25 PM
Woo hoo!! We're #34!!!!!!

I really expected us to be wayyyyyyyy lower
 
2013-06-24 02:44:42 PM

zulius: deanis: 34 Kentucky
35 North Carolina
36 Oklahoma
37 West Virginia
38 Florida
39 Tennessee
40 Arkansas
41 California
42 Texas
43 Georgia
44 Alabama
45 South Carolina
46 Louisiana
47 Arizona
48 Nevada
49 Mississippi
50 New Mexico

Besides Cali, anyone seeing a trend here?

As someone who lives in AZ, I'm going to assume...Red State?


I was going for southern but that's close enough.
 
2013-06-24 02:45:24 PM

JesseL


What I hate about lists by ranking like this (and maybe more, the way they're reported), is that no matter how much things improve there's always going to be someone at the bottom. It doesn't matter how good things are or how little difference there is between the top and bottom.


What I hate about lists is when people don't bother to read any of the accompanying information and expect the entire, complex picture to be summed up neatly and completely in a simple list.

Ahem.
 
2013-06-24 02:45:26 PM

OldManDownDRoad: nekom: show me: Wow, and they're even proud of it. Wanna bet they didn't get any better, and New Mexico just got worse?

Isn't New Mexico full of Indian reservations?  Nothing against American Indians at all, but poverty is a huge issue on tribal lands.

As is alcoholism, drug buse, malnutrition . . .

But, hey, they got the casinos now, so it's all good.

/ratings and rankings are trolling of the first order


The reservations in South Dakota are even poorer than the ones in New Mexico (which is an achievement in itself).  They got #18 so there must be something else.
 
2013-06-24 02:45:52 PM

IntertubeUser: If you know your state is a shiathole, why stay in that shiathole?

//Left Texass five years ago.  It was the best thing that I ever did!
//It took two decades to leave, but I finally did.


New Mexico isn't a shiathole, no matter what this ranking states.
It's actually quite wonderful.
 
2013-06-24 02:45:56 PM
Watch out, New Mexico. We are going to take away the "New" part.
 
2013-06-24 02:46:53 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: I'll apologize in advance for the tower o' text:

Overall Rank

Being a kid in the South Sucks compared to the North.

The whole report (7.1MB PDF) is available here: http://datacenter.kidscount.org/files/2013KIDSCOUNTDataBook.pdf


Summed it up a lil.
 
2013-06-24 02:47:11 PM
OldManDownDRoad:
As is alcoholism, drug buse, malnutrition . . .

But, hey, they got the casinos now, so it's all good.

/ratings and rankings are trolling of the first order


Well, true but it can easily be argued that the alcohol and drug abuse is a direct product of the poverty.  I guess there aren't enough of them to be a major political force, I don't recall EVER hearing a politician address any of those issues.  But then I live in Pennsylvania, maybe they do out west.
 
2013-06-24 02:47:52 PM
Somehow I knew it was going to be New Mexico. Seems like we're always fighting for #50 with Mississippi on these types of lists. Sad times.

At least I turned out alright. I think.
 
2013-06-24 02:48:10 PM
Mississippi: the state where "second-worst" is a laudable accomplishment.
 
2013-06-24 02:51:31 PM

deanis: 34 Kentucky
35 North Carolina
36 Oklahoma
37 West Virginia
38 Florida
39 Tennessee
40 Arkansas
41 California
42 Texas
43 Georgia
44 Alabama
45 South Carolina
46 Louisiana
47 Arizona
48 Nevada
49 Mississippi
50 New Mexico

Besides Cali, anyone seeing a trend here?


Cali is on the list for the exact same reason as AZ, NV, NM & TX
 
2013-06-24 02:51:40 PM

nekom: show me: Wow, and they're even proud of it. Wanna bet they didn't get any better, and New Mexico just got worse?

Isn't New Mexico full of Indian reservations?  Nothing against American Indians at all, but poverty is a huge issue on tribal lands.


New Mexico is desperately poor and it has a lot of immigrant agricultural workers who don't have access to prenatal care or decent pediatric care. The state has done some things to improve nutrition but it's a really hard battle. 

It's a beautiful place and deserves a lot better. (My family settled there a few generations ago and we still have friends there. I love it and would move to Albuquerque in a heartbeat. It's a dry heat, ya know?)
 
2013-06-24 02:52:03 PM
Switzerland has bullet-riddled road signs.  Back in 1998, a sign announcing you were entering Switzerland from Liechtenstein had a really nice shot gun blast through it.  I have a picture somewhere.
 
2013-06-24 02:52:32 PM

DerAppie: Rankings suck. No matter how good or bad things are, there will always be a first and a last place. Just report on the scores. That way at least we can make judgements on how good or bad things are.



If you're at the bottom, you're bad and you should feel bad

 
2013-06-24 02:57:42 PM

IntertubeUser: If you know your state is a shiathole, why stay in that shiathole?

//Left Texass five years ago.  It was the best thing that I ever did!
//It took two decades to leave, but I finally did.


A large number of reasons.

1) Many refuse to acknowledge any issues that make their state a shiathole.
2) Many have different opinions on what is good and want to live is said shiatholes.
3) Many places in these shiatholes aren't that bad (we are talking averages across large areas, after all).
3) Many are in relatively good positions that they aren't affected by the general shiattiness.
4) Many want to stay for sentimental reasons "my father, grandfather, great granfather etc lived here"
5) Many want to fix the place so that it isn't a shiathole.
6) A lot can't afford it. They are just getting by with whatever they have and can't afford to give it up to move elsewhere. This isn't just about jobs, but also the support network of friends and family and other contacts.
7) Let's not forget stupidity too.

Lots of reasons to stay, probably lots I missed, look at yourself, you say you stayed for 20 years.
 
2013-06-24 02:58:34 PM

ShadowKamui: deanis: 34 Kentucky
35 North Carolina
36 Oklahoma
37 West Virginia
38 Florida
39 Tennessee
40 Arkansas
41 California
42 Texas
43 Georgia
44 Alabama
45 South Carolina
46 Louisiana
47 Arizona
48 Nevada
49 Mississippi
50 New Mexico

Besides Cali, anyone seeing a trend here?

Cali is on the list for the exact same reason as AZ, NV, NM & TX


Agreed.
 
2013-06-24 03:00:22 PM
ginandbacon:
New Mexico is desperately poor and it has a lot of immigrant agricultural workers who don't have access to prenatal care or decent pediatric care. The state has done some things to improve nutrition but it's a really hard battle. 

It's a beautiful place and deserves a lot better. (My family settled there a few generations ago and we still have friends there. I love it and would move to Albuquerque in a heartbeat. It's a dry heat, ya know?)


I've seen photos, there's no shortage of natural beauty, that's for sure.  Of course they deserve better, no one should have to live in a world where feeding their children is ever an issue.  That it happens even in the "Greatest nation in the world"(TM) is doubly awful.  I have some neighbors who are DIRT poor, but at least their kids eat just fine.
 
2013-06-24 03:00:54 PM

Rhypskallion: We never won the War on Poverty.

images.hitfix.com

It was a tie!
 
2013-06-24 03:02:09 PM

Englebert Slaptyback: JesseL

What I hate about lists by ranking like this (and maybe more, the way they're reported), is that no matter how much things improve there's always going to be someone at the bottom. It doesn't matter how good things are or how little difference there is between the top and bottom.


What I hate about lists is when people don't bother to read any of the accompanying information and expect the entire, complex picture to be summed up neatly and completely in a simple list.

Ahem.


The information in the article is pretty sparse, only making mention of a couple areas that Mississippi improved and failing to even quantify those.

Did you happen to notice that I had mentioned hating the way these lists are reported?
 
2013-06-24 03:03:07 PM

nekom: Isn't New Mexico full of Indian reservations?  Nothing against American Indians at all, but poverty is a huge issue on tribal lands.


New Mexico is about 10% Native Americans.  It's not just the Indians that are poor.
 
2013-06-24 03:11:09 PM

Ambitwistor: nekom: Isn't New Mexico full of Indian reservations?  Nothing against American Indians at all, but poverty is a huge issue on tribal lands.

New Mexico is about 10% Native Americans.  It's not just the Indians that are poor.


Oh I realize there are plenty of whites, hispanics, etc as well, but from a documentary I saw about poverty on reservations, it looked bad enough to drag an entire state's mean income down a lot.  They were talking about one in one of the Dakotas, pine ridge I believe, and it was just dreadful.  I guess they're just politically invisible.
 
2013-06-24 03:12:11 PM
I've lived in mississippi my entire life. Born and raised here and I am currently raising my own son here. Yeah, it's a shame that wherever he goes he hears polite manners and gets treated to daily
doses of genuine hospitality. But of course the threats of drive-bys and gang crossfire run rampant throughout my bustling town of 50k people and ruin his playtime at many of our drug infested city parks. It's a shame that I'm forcing him to live in this hellhole. I should move him to one of those "mega cities" up north that have all the bonuses of a utopian society. No crime...a perfect place to raise a child. Instead I'll keep him here because its not like I ever amounted to anything by being raised here. Sorry, kiddo. You don't get a life like the kids raised in one of the states at the top of the list.
 
2013-06-24 03:14:28 PM

nekom: ginandbacon:
New Mexico is desperately poor and it has a lot of immigrant agricultural workers who don't have access to prenatal care or decent pediatric care. The state has done some things to improve nutrition but it's a really hard battle. 

It's a beautiful place and deserves a lot better. (My family settled there a few generations ago and we still have friends there. I love it and would move to Albuquerque in a heartbeat. It's a dry heat, ya know?)

I've seen photos, there's no shortage of natural beauty, that's for sure.  Of course they deserve better, no one should have to live in a world where feeding their children is ever an issue.  That it happens even in the "Greatest nation in the world"(TM) is doubly awful.  I have some neighbors who are DIRT poor, but at least their kids eat just fine.


It's the poorest state in the Union. Some depressing stats. I still don't understand how my mother managed to get a full scholarship to Stanford and get the hell out of there. She is one smart and determined cookie.

But I would seriously move there. The food and culture and landscape just knock me out. And hoowee is it cheap! Not too many jobs with decent salaries though. We have a list of places we would move to and Albuquerque is right at the top. So is Detroit though so we are both obviously nuts. 

But yeah, it's a state facing a lot of challenges and the fact that they elected a Republican Governor really didn't help things much. 

Shame that.
 
2013-06-24 03:16:26 PM
MISSISSIPPI IS THE PENULTIMATE!  BOOYAH!

For the benefit of our Mississippi farkers, "penultimate" means "next to last".
 
2013-06-24 03:17:52 PM

Jatybe: I've lived in mississippi my entire life. Born and raised here and I am currently raising my own son here. Yeah, it's a shame that wherever he goes he hears polite manners and gets treated to daily
doses of genuine hospitality. But of course the threats of drive-bys and gang crossfire run rampant throughout my bustling town of 50k people and ruin his playtime at many of our drug infested city parks. It's a shame that I'm forcing him to live in this hellhole. I should move him to one of those "mega cities" up north that have all the bonuses of a utopian society. No crime...a perfect place to raise a child. Instead I'll keep him here because its not like I ever amounted to anything by being raised here. Sorry, kiddo. You don't get a life like the kids raised in one of the states at the top of the list.


Southern hospitality is certainly no myth, but the rest of what you're describing is just rural living.  It's like that here in western Pennsylvania too, just with cooler summers, way worse winters and fewer alligators.  And I'm totally with you on that, rural living is GREAT for kids.  Just last night I was out with my 6 year old catching fire flies.  Sounds like your son is living a great childhood.
 
2013-06-24 03:22:59 PM

nekom: Ambitwistor: nekom: Isn't New Mexico full of Indian reservations?  Nothing against American Indians at all, but poverty is a huge issue on tribal lands.

New Mexico is about 10% Native Americans.  It's not just the Indians that are poor.

Oh I realize there are plenty of whites, hispanics, etc as well, but from a documentary I saw about poverty on reservations, it looked bad enough to drag an entire state's mean income down a lot.  They were talking about one in one of the Dakotas, pine ridge I believe, and it was just dreadful.  I guess they're just politically invisible.


Yeah, Indian reservations can be pretty bad.  According to these statistics, 25% of the Native American population is below the poverty line, compared to 20% of the Hispanic population and 7% of the (non-Hispanic) white population.  Population-wise, the state is 9% Native American, 46% Hispanic, and 41% white.    I think most of the state's poverty is in the Hispanic population.
 
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