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(Sportige)   NBA head coaches can't seem to hang on to their jobs, or maybe NBA teams don't have enough patience, with only four NBA head coaches at their current job for more than three seasons   (sportige.com) divider line 4
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2013-06-24 09:15:14 PM
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ITT: A bunch of people who know nothing about the sport of basketball talking about how simple it is while, laughably, talking about how important a manager is in baseball.

/any fan in the crowd could manage a baseball team and not reduce the chances the team would lose
//wait, take the pitcher out when he's tired or ineffective? THIS IS SO COMPLICATED
2013-06-24 03:51:09 PM
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rickythepenguin: downstairs: Because there is very little creativity when it comes to managing baseball.

one of the more novel coachign decisions in MLB i ever saw was about a decade ago, then-Snakes manager Buck Showalter walked Barry Bonds with the bases loaded.  Not sure what the score or inning was, or for that matter, if the Snakes won, but i do remember Lamar being very dismissive of the tactic but Buck insisting it was the right move.  barry was not happy but, hey, buck figured one run versus the possibility of a grand slam was worth the gamble.

and i went to a recent Snakes game where Gibby let the pitcher bat with a man on, down a couple of runs in the 5th or 6th or so.  "The book" says you pull him for the PH, but Gibby explained after the game (and the gambit didn't pay off) that with the bullpen as taxed as it was, he didn't want to have to burn the bullpen that early.

rarely do you see those kinds of moves in the NBA.  yeah, this year's playoffs, Hibbert wasn't on the floor in that Heat win, and then in what, Game 4 (5?) Duncan wasn't on the floor, but those are pretty uncommon.  NBA is just so damn fluid.  so much is beyond the coach's control.


Totally disagree with lineup changes not being relevant in the NBA.  Check out the Heat minutes distribution during the Finals:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306200MIA.html

Shane Battier went from DNP in Game 7 vs. Indiana, to playing less than 10 minutes a game in the Finals, to playing 28 minutes in Game 7 vs. San Antonio.  Ray Allen went from ~20 mpg to playing more than Wade in Game 6.  Chris Anderson got two DNPs in the Finals and then made a big impact in the last two games.  Certainly a lot of basketball is putting your best players on the floor for as long as humanly possible, but playing the proper matchups during rest time for stars, managing foul trouble, and riding a role player's hot streak can be the difference between losing the championship at home in 6 vs. winning in 7.
2013-06-24 02:17:30 PM
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Dafatone: Don't be the Nets.


This.

FormlessOne: Gee, sports teams owned by daytraders, shysters, and conmen demonstrate a marked lack of patience when it comes to buying success? Color me shocked.


Yep.

InfrasonicTom: How many more games would the love child of Phil Jackson and Red Auerbach have won with that team?  The triangle offense ain't won shiat without MJ or Kobe.


That's a valid question, but I think we can all agree that Phil Jackson probably would not have attempted to turn Pau Gasol into Chris Bosh*.  I'm basing this on the fact that when Phil Jackson coached Pau Gasol he did not attempt to turn him into Chris Bosh.  D'Antoni's Laker problem was that he tried to make the team he had fit the system he wanted to play rather than tweaking the system to maximize the production of each player on his team.  He also appears to be pretty bad at dealing with egomaniacal players, although I can't really cite any concrete evidence of that beyond the really weird interviews and media potshots that his players were involved in.

*Where Chris Bosh = PF/C who plays at or near the 3-pt line to space the floor whose primary focus isn't rebounding/post play.
2013-06-24 01:44:27 PM
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deanis: Pretty much proves that coaches mean squat in the NBA.


Oh coaches can have a lot of influence on a team.  For example, if your team is coached by Mike D'Antoni, they're going to suck.
 
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