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(Scotus Blog)   The Supreme Court will make history today. Well..might make history. Well..at least there will be a thread to make Scalia jokes today. (Decisions at 10am Eastern)   (scotusblog.com) divider line 171
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2013-06-24 10:19:55 AM  
Jonathan Chait  @jonathanchait
SCOTUS rules that affirmative action cannot be decided now in light of heavy news week. Journalists praise ruling.
 
2013-06-24 10:21:59 AM  
From SCOTUSBlog: "The majority seems to reaffirm that diversity is a compelling interest if only because that rule was not challenged by the plaintiffs in the case. "
 
2013-06-24 10:22:16 AM  
So we really have no closure on Fisher?
 
2013-06-24 10:22:29 AM  
On cnn.com:  "Supreme Court issues ruling in affirmative action case from Texas. Details soon."

So either they're being cautious (having learned from the Obamacare snafu) or they have no idea either.
 
2013-06-24 10:22:32 AM  
From SCOTUSBlog: "And so in terms of who could announce opinions, we could still get another one from Kennedy; we could also get one from Scalia or the Chief. "

There's no way those are good options.
 
2013-06-24 10:22:35 AM  

tudorgurl: From SCOTUSBlog: "The majority seems to reaffirm that diversity is a compelling interest if only because that rule was not challenged by the plaintiffs in the case. "


That's for Fisher v UT
 
2013-06-24 10:22:50 AM  
What a mess for Fisher. My guess is that the justices were deadlocked 4-4 for months, and because they couldn't come to an agreement, they just decided to whiff on it and let it have another go on the merry-go-round.

Way to waste everyone's time, guys.
 
2013-06-24 10:23:05 AM  
We could still hear more from Kennedy, Scalia, or Roberts before the morning is finished.
 
2013-06-24 10:23:07 AM  

R.A.Danny: So we really have no closure on Fisher?


Looks like that is the case. Not boding well for other decisions...
 
2013-06-24 10:23:13 AM  

R.A.Danny: So we really have no closure on Fisher?


You think it would be hard to punt wearing those long robes...
 
2013-06-24 10:23:26 AM  
Only if because....WTF?
 
2013-06-24 10:23:36 AM  
So basically, as long as the university is using AA to ensure a diverse student pop, it's ok?
 
2013-06-24 10:24:25 AM  
Dylan Matthews  @dylanmatt
This is like the SCOTUS equivalent of the Sopranos finale.
 
2013-06-24 10:24:38 AM  

tudorgurl: So basically, as long as the university is using AA to ensure a diverse student pop, it's ok?


Until the actual use is argued which somehow it wasn't or something.
 
2013-06-24 10:24:46 AM  

DamnYankees: Dylan Matthews  @dylanmatt
This is like the SCOTUS equivalent of the Sopranos finale.


Bwaahaaha----
 
2013-06-24 10:25:24 AM  

tudorgurl: So basically, as long as the university is using AA to ensure a diverse student pop, it's ok?


That's what it looks like.
 
2013-06-24 10:25:40 AM  

R.A.Danny: tudorgurl: So basically, as long as the university is using AA to ensure a diverse student pop, it's ok?

Until the actual use is argued which somehow it wasn't or something.


Interesting. From SCOTUSBlog for <i>Fisher v UT</i>: "Amy Howe: Here's the money quote: "The reviewing court must ultimately be satisfied that no workable race-neutral alternatives would produce the educational benefits of diversity."
 
2013-06-24 10:25:46 AM  

R.A.Danny: tudorgurl: So basically, as long as the university is using AA to ensure a diverse student pop, it's ok?

Until the actual use is argued which somehow it wasn't or something.


So, are they like, avoiding making concrete decisions on technicalities here, or something? That would seem a bit cowardly.
 
2013-06-24 10:25:51 AM  
And we're done for the day. We officially got absolutely nothing.
 
2013-06-24 10:26:04 AM  
Damnit!!!   the saga must now continue.   they are sending affirmative action back down the the lower court with a verdict of "I cant believe you wrote this"
 
2013-06-24 10:26:31 AM  
Wow...so no DOMA/PROP 8 ruling? What are they doing!?!?!
 
2013-06-24 10:27:05 AM  

tudorgurl: Wow...so no DOMA/PROP 8 ruling? What are they doing!?!?!


Trying to fark with my head.
 
2013-06-24 10:27:16 AM  
No Voting Rights Act??
 
2013-06-24 10:27:33 AM  

DamnYankees: From SCOTUSBlog: "And so in terms of who could announce opinions, we could still get another one from Kennedy; we could also get one from Scalia or the Chief. "

There's no way those are good options.


Kennedy could be either side of a 5-4 decision, and given PPACA it's entirely possible Roberts could be, too. Regardless, another employer-happy decision, in UTSW v. Nassar, is apparently the last word of the day.
 
2013-06-24 10:27:40 AM  

DamnYankees: Dylan Matthews  @dylanmatt
This is like the SCOTUS equivalent of the Sopranos finale.


Unfortunately the asshole here doesn't die in the end
 
2013-06-24 10:28:07 AM  

tudorgurl: R.A.Danny: tudorgurl: So basically, as long as the university is using AA to ensure a diverse student pop, it's ok?

Until the actual use is argued which somehow it wasn't or something.

Interesting. From SCOTUSBlog for <i>Fisher v UT</i>: "Amy Howe: Here's the money quote: "The reviewing court must ultimately be satisfied that no workable race-neutral alternatives would produce the educational benefits of diversity."


Sounds a lot like "You can't say minorities are too stupid to compete on their own merits until it is proven that they are then they can".

Not my thoughts, just what I'm deciphering.
 
2013-06-24 10:28:09 AM  
Farking cowards! They're too farking afraid to say their decision.
 
2013-06-24 10:28:10 AM  

tudorgurl: Wow...so no DOMA/PROP 8 ruling? What are they doing!?!?!


Damn.  So now what?
 
2013-06-24 10:28:12 AM  

DamnYankees: Dylan Matthews  @dylanmatt
This is like the SCOTUS equivalent of the Sopranos finale.


Heh heh heh
 
2013-06-24 10:28:12 AM  
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2013-06-24 10:28:24 AM  

Cythraul: tudorgurl: Wow...so no DOMA/PROP 8 ruling? What are they doing!?!?!

Trying to fark with my head.


No kidding! This is ridiculous!

UT Southwestern vs Nassar (retaliation claims case) : Here is our page for Nassar, the retaliation claims case: http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/university-of-texas-southw e stern-medical-center-v-nassar/
 
2013-06-24 10:28:42 AM  

tudorgurl: Wow...so no DOMA/PROP 8 ruling? What are they doing!?!?!


Waiting until later in the week, which isn't that surprising. Everyone expected that they wouldn't address ALL the major cases today, so it was to be expected that some of them would be pushed back until probably Thursday.
 
2013-06-24 10:28:45 AM  

tudorgurl: Wow...so no DOMA/PROP 8 ruling? What are they doing!?!?!


Nothing on the Voting Rights Act, either. That's the one I'm anxious about. Depending on how that is decided, it could have a huge impact on who making laws in the future.
 
2013-06-24 10:28:52 AM  

tudorgurl: Wow...so no DOMA/PROP 8 ruling? What are they doing!?!?!


stalling like a motherfarker. Also no VRA §5 ruling.
 
2013-06-24 10:29:02 AM  

DamnYankees: From SCOTUSBlog: "And so in terms of who could announce opinions, we could still get another one from Kennedy; we could also get one from Scalia or the Chief. "

There's no way those are good options.


Well, Windsor and Perry didn't come out today, so in my opinion, that's the best we could have hoped for given the remaining judges.
 
2013-06-24 10:29:45 AM  
What? They can't finish now, it's not even noon. To drag this out is cruel.
 
2013-06-24 10:30:07 AM  

NeoCortex42: tudorgurl: Wow...so no DOMA/PROP 8 ruling? What are they doing!?!?!

Nothing on the Voting Rights Act, either. That's the one I'm anxious about. Depending on how that is decided, it could have a huge impact on who making laws in the future.


I'm not that worried about that one. I doubt they could fark up that ruling. They wouldn't fark up that ruling. Would they?
 
2013-06-24 10:32:36 AM  

Cythraul: NeoCortex42: tudorgurl: Wow...so no DOMA/PROP 8 ruling? What are they doing!?!?!

Nothing on the Voting Rights Act, either. That's the one I'm anxious about. Depending on how that is decided, it could have a huge impact on who making laws in the future.

I'm not that worried about that one. I doubt they could fark up that ruling. They wouldn't fark up that ruling. Would they?


I really hope not. Just look at the crap that was attempted this past election.
 
2013-06-24 10:32:50 AM  
This is more drawn out than Return of the King.
 
2013-06-24 10:33:18 AM  

Rincewind53: tudorgurl: Wow...so no DOMA/PROP 8 ruling? What are they doing!?!?!

Waiting until later in the week, which isn't that surprising. Everyone expected that they wouldn't address ALL the major cases today, so it was to be expected that some of them would be pushed back until probably Thursday.


They can't do that! I won't be able to follow it on Thursday!

Stupid Supreme Court!
 
2013-06-24 10:33:54 AM  

JerseyTim: This is more drawn out than Return of the King.


With fifteen different endings because they just can't decide which one to use!
 
2013-06-24 10:34:53 AM  

Cythraul: NeoCortex42: tudorgurl: Wow...so no DOMA/PROP 8 ruling? What are they doing!?!?!

Nothing on the Voting Rights Act, either. That's the one I'm anxious about. Depending on how that is decided, it could have a huge impact on who making laws in the future.

I'm not that worried about that one. I doubt they could fark up that ruling. They wouldn't fark up that ruling. Would they?


Seriously?
 
2013-06-24 10:36:33 AM  
Great.  Now I don't have any excuse for not doing work.
 
2013-06-24 10:37:16 AM  

tudorgurl: Wow...so no DOMA/PROP 8 ruling? What are they doing!?!?!


As I stated earlier, the court always releases rulings regarding their currently most high profile and controversial cases last. A ruling regarding the Defense of Marriage Act and Proposition 8 should not be expected until the last day of rulings, and only as the last ruling released. The court did this when overturning the unreasonable ban on civilian handgun ownership in the District of Columbia, and then again when overturning the same unreasonable ban in Chicago. I expect no differently for this equally high-profile and controversial case.
 
2013-06-24 10:39:59 AM  
SCOTUS says see you tomorrow, same bat time, same bat channel
 
2013-06-24 10:40:08 AM  
SCOTUS back tomorrow at 10am.
 
2013-06-24 10:42:49 AM  
Lazy asses work an hour and 45 minutes a day.
 
2013-06-24 10:43:58 AM  

Dimensio: tudorgurl: Wow...so no DOMA/PROP 8 ruling? What are they doing!?!?!

As I stated earlier, the court always releases rulings regarding their currently most high profile and controversial cases last. A ruling regarding the Defense of Marriage Act and Proposition 8 should not be expected until the last day of rulings, and only as the last ruling released. The court did this when overturning the unreasonable ban on civilian handgun ownership in the District of Columbia, and then again when overturning the same unreasonable ban in Chicago. I expect no differently for this equally high-profile and controversial case.


Well, no, not really. The opinions are released each day in order of seniority, so a major decision written by Kagan would come before a minor decision written by Scalia, for example.

And your major point is just wrong. The court tends to issue major decisions late in the term mainly because they take the most time to write and get consensus on, not for media reasons. The court generally doesn't give a hoot about the media.
 
2013-06-24 10:46:17 AM  

JerseyTim: Lazy asses work an hour and 45 minutes a day.


You know that they have to do a lot more than just show up in court, right?
 
2013-06-24 10:48:09 AM  

Rincewind53: JerseyTim: Lazy asses work an hour and 45 minutes a day.

You know that they have to do a lot more than just show up in court, right?


I don't count hair and makeup preparation as work.
 
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