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2013-06-24 09:31:02 AM
Ummm...help me out here.  Why would the FTC give a rat's ass about Google buying a foreign company?  I don't hear any kind of uproar about selling Smithfield to the Chinese.
 
2013-06-24 09:33:16 AM

AngryDragon: Ummm...help me out here.  Why would the FTC give a rat's ass about Google buying a foreign company?  I don't hear any kind of uproar about selling Smithfield to the Chinese.


The FTC is only examining it. They aren't denying it. The headline isn't accurate to the article. Surprise!
 
2013-06-24 09:37:38 AM
This should get through no bother.  Google has mapping competitors.  Apple Maps, Navtech Nokia maps, Open Streetmap Project, TomTom, Garmin, MapQuest, VZW Navigator and I'm sure there are several more I'm missing.
 
2013-06-24 09:38:35 AM

Fantasta Potamus: AngryDragon: Ummm...help me out here.  Why would the FTC give a rat's ass about Google buying a foreign company?  I don't hear any kind of uproar about selling Smithfield to the Chinese.

The FTC is only examining it. They aren't denying it. The headline isn't accurate to the article. Surprise!


Still.  They aren't examining the Smithfield deal, why this one?  It would seem like the acquisition of a foreign company would be rubber stamped, but the sale of a measurable percentage of our foreign trade to the very country that consumes it would be scrutinized fairly significantly.

Or are we only "free-trade" when we're selling our economic capacity, not buying it?
 
2013-06-24 09:47:24 AM

Fantasta Potamus: The FTC is only examining it. They aren't denying it. The headline isn't accurate to the article. Surprise!


The FTC would've rubber-stamped this days ago if not for the Waze and Means Committee.
 
2013-06-24 09:52:20 AM

AngryDragon: Ummm...help me out here.  Why would the FTC give a rat's ass about Google buying a foreign company?  I don't hear any kind of uproar about selling Smithfield to the Chinese.


Because Waze does operate in America (despite not being based here), and has a significant portion of the navigation app market.  Acquiring Waze would only strengthen Google's hold over navigation.

As much as I dig Google's services and use them very frequently, I can't help but root against them here.  Monopolies suck.
 
2013-06-24 10:07:57 AM

HeartBurnKid: As much as I dig Google's services and use them very frequently, I can't help but root against them here. Monopolies suck.


Yeah, market share is like weight gain.  Going from a start-up to, say, 10% of the market is like going from an emaciated anorexia patient to NFL size -- it's necessary to take on tough competition and survive.

Google's already the HoF NFL lineman of its class with some bad weight added.  Where Google's at now, further market share is gonna turn them into a 700-pound shut-in that feeds off the rest of society.
 
2013-06-24 10:17:23 AM

HeartBurnKid: AngryDragon: Ummm...help me out here.  Why would the FTC give a rat's ass about Google buying a foreign company?  I don't hear any kind of uproar about selling Smithfield to the Chinese.

Because Waze does operate in America (despite not being based here), and has a significant portion of the navigation app market.  Acquiring Waze would only strengthen Google's hold over navigation.

As much as I dig Google's services and use them very frequently, I can't help but root against them here.  Monopolies suck.


Where's the monopoly?
 
2013-06-24 10:26:06 AM

timujin: HeartBurnKid: AngryDragon: Ummm...help me out here.  Why would the FTC give a rat's ass about Google buying a foreign company?  I don't hear any kind of uproar about selling Smithfield to the Chinese.

Because Waze does operate in America (despite not being based here), and has a significant portion of the navigation app market.  Acquiring Waze would only strengthen Google's hold over navigation.

As much as I dig Google's services and use them very frequently, I can't help but root against them here.  Monopolies suck.

Where's the monopoly?


Well, there isn't one quite yet, but few can deny that Google Maps is the 800 pound gorilla of navigation, and if they're going to go around and buy competitors, they will become one very, very quickly.  And that is something we should be very, very careful of.
 
2013-06-24 10:33:24 AM

timujin: HeartBurnKid: AngryDragon: Ummm...help me out here.  Why would the FTC give a rat's ass about Google buying a foreign company?  I don't hear any kind of uproar about selling Smithfield to the Chinese.

Because Waze does operate in America (despite not being based here), and has a significant portion of the navigation app market.  Acquiring Waze would only strengthen Google's hold over navigation.

As much as I dig Google's services and use them very frequently, I can't help but root against them here.  Monopolies suck.

Where's the monopoly?


This. The online app space is one of the most competitive markets around.
 
2013-06-24 10:40:35 AM

HeartBurnKid: timujin: HeartBurnKid: AngryDragon: Ummm...help me out here.  Why would the FTC give a rat's ass about Google buying a foreign company?  I don't hear any kind of uproar about selling Smithfield to the Chinese.

Because Waze does operate in America (despite not being based here), and has a significant portion of the navigation app market.  Acquiring Waze would only strengthen Google's hold over navigation.

As much as I dig Google's services and use them very frequently, I can't help but root against them here.  Monopolies suck.

Where's the monopoly?

Well, there isn't one quite yet, but few can deny that Google Maps is the 800 pound gorilla of navigation, and if they're going to go around and buy competitors, they will become one very, very quickly.  And that is something we should be very, very careful of.


There's a possibility that somehow, sometime in the future they might become a monopoly so we should root against their acquisition of this company?  That's reaching.  There are so many navigation apps and other resources (like dedicated GPS systems in cars) available that even if Google is the "800 pound gorilla" in the room, they're still nowhere close to becoming a monopoly.
 
2013-06-24 11:03:34 AM
If anything Google Maps dominance in the mobile space has been severely diminished by Apple removing it from the default apps in iOS and replacing it with their own service. iOS accounts for 40% of US smartphones and if you believe Apple about 75% of mobile web traffic.
 
2013-06-24 11:24:46 AM
As a user of Waze, they really need to be acquired by one of the major mapping companies in order to get any better. The benefit of Waze is dependent upon being used by the most people possible, so being purchased by Google only helps. There's no monopoly here.
 
2013-06-24 12:54:54 PM

Hydra: timujin: HeartBurnKid: AngryDragon: Ummm...help me out here.  Why would the FTC give a rat's ass about Google buying a foreign company?  I don't hear any kind of uproar about selling Smithfield to the Chinese.

Because Waze does operate in America (despite not being based here), and has a significant portion of the navigation app market.  Acquiring Waze would only strengthen Google's hold over navigation.

As much as I dig Google's services and use them very frequently, I can't help but root against them here.  Monopolies suck.

Where's the monopoly?

This. The online app space is one of the most competitive markets around.


Yeah google just owns the store and adds its software to its OS by default. Not like MS got into shiat for something that seemingly trivial.
 
2013-06-24 01:51:30 PM

moothemagiccow: Hydra: timujin: HeartBurnKid: AngryDragon: Ummm...help me out here.  Why would the FTC give a rat's ass about Google buying a foreign company?  I don't hear any kind of uproar about selling Smithfield to the Chinese.

Because Waze does operate in America (despite not being based here), and has a significant portion of the navigation app market.  Acquiring Waze would only strengthen Google's hold over navigation.

As much as I dig Google's services and use them very frequently, I can't help but root against them here.  Monopolies suck.

Where's the monopoly?

This. The online app space is one of the most competitive markets around.

Yeah google just owns the store and adds its software to its OS by default. Not like MS got into shiat for something that seemingly trivial.


I think you meant Apple.  Oh wait, no it didn't.
 
2013-06-24 02:31:26 PM

Faddy: If anything Google Maps dominance in the mobile space has been severely diminished by Apple removing it from the default apps in iOS and replacing it with their own service. iOS accounts for 40% of US smartphones and if you believe Apple about 75% of mobile web traffic.


I would agree with that mobile traffic number.  My school systems mobile web traffic shows iOS as %67 of all traffic.  Android at only %26.
 
2013-06-24 02:33:04 PM
I thought it was interesting that Waze's business plan was to develop an app, attract users and get bought. Paraphrased FTA. Below 70 million revenue, buyout offer for 1.3 billion... plan successful, I'd say.
 
2013-06-24 08:20:00 PM

AngryDragon: Ummm...help me out here.  Why would the FTC give a rat's ass about Google buying a foreign company?  I don't hear any kind of uproar about selling Smithfield to the Chinese.


Because we live in a global market now. If Google buys up their competitors it still concentrates too much of the market in Google's hands even if those competitors are based overseas.
 
2013-06-24 08:21:12 PM

Faddy: This should get through no bother.  Google has mapping competitors.  Apple Maps, Navtech Nokia maps, Open Streetmap Project, TomTom, Garmin, MapQuest, VZW Navigator and I'm sure there are several more I'm missing.


Many of those will disappear as the market matures.
 
2013-06-24 09:17:20 PM

Disposable Rob: As a user of Waze, they really need to be acquired by one of the major mapping companies in order to get any better. The benefit of Waze is dependent upon being used by the most people possible, so being purchased by Google only helps. There's no monopoly here.


I use Waze as a replacement for Blackberry Traffic, which used Bing's data to avoid congestion. It worked really well without me having to tell it there was a wreck or some shiat.

Google Maps just doesn't route around traffic for some reason.

If Waze gets bought by Facebook I'm dumping it because I don't need to keep going into my facebook settings to stop fb from posting ads about the places I go.

/made King Wazer in 3 months with no map editing
 
2013-06-24 09:35:08 PM

kg2095: Faddy: This should get through no bother.  Google has mapping competitors.  Apple Maps, Navtech Nokia maps, Open Streetmap Project, TomTom, Garmin, MapQuest, VZW Navigator and I'm sure there are several more I'm missing.

Many of those will disappear as the market matures.


Actually, many of those are the same. Garmin, Nokia and MapQuest (as well as Bing) all use NavTeq.
 
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