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2013-06-24 08:36:56 AM
Baltimore Orioles to Toronto Blue Jays: Congratulations on winning 11 straight and climbing all the way up to 4th place.

/Well, by 0.001 pct, anyway.
 
2013-06-24 09:20:51 AM
Still it's painful to watch after winning the last few series...

The O's will be fine though.
 
2013-06-24 09:25:29 AM
I wouldn't call giving up 5 runs a pitching clinic.

Maybe a clinic on how to pitch if your offense puts up 13, but in most other games 5 runs puts an L beside your name.
 
2013-06-24 09:45:54 AM

DoBeDoBeDo: I wouldn't call giving up 5 runs a pitching clinic.

Maybe a clinic on how to pitch if your offense puts up 13, but in most other games 5 runs puts an L beside your name.


Yeah, the other two wins were 4-2 and 7-6. You could say the bull pen was lights out at least.

nice green light subby. Don't get cocky.

Hope we stay red hot for Red Sox. That would make the division VERY interesting come all star break
 
2013-06-24 10:05:53 AM
It gets them into the wild card discussion, at least, even if they are tied with the Indians 3 games back.
 
2013-06-24 10:44:54 AM
Amusing headline, but still a ridiculous greenlight.  It was a garden variety sweep.
 
2013-06-24 11:02:39 AM

Harv72b: Baltimore Orioles to Toronto Blue Jays: Congratulations on winning 11 straight and climbing all the way up to 4th place.

/Well, by 0.001 pct, anyway.


This from the team that's only 2 losses away from 4th place.
 
2013-06-24 11:08:53 AM

tmo72: Harv72b: Baltimore Orioles to Toronto Blue Jays: Congratulations on winning 11 straight and climbing all the way up to 4th place.

/Well, by 0.001 pct, anyway.

This from the team that's only 2 losses away from 4th place.


ugh, 3 losses. Point is, you aren't that far ahead.
 
2013-06-24 11:09:28 AM

Konowalchuk22: Amusing headline, but still a ridiculous greenlight.  It was a garden variety sweep.


Um, don't think there's been a longer MLB win streak in the last decade.
 
2013-06-24 11:17:53 AM
Uh oh, did the Canadians burn down Washington again?

Oh, it's only Baltimore.  Carry on.
 
2013-06-24 11:23:57 AM
i.imgur.com

Tip of the hat to Toronto for the winning streak and for bringing back those great uniforms.
 
2013-06-24 11:32:13 AM
Yep. I don't feel so bad about them sweeping the Rangers since they are beating everyone else too. Kudos to the Jays.
 
2013-06-24 11:35:28 AM
Hopefully the Jays will be able to handle the inevitable loss in stride.

I still think that it's too little, too late, but I would love to be wrong.
 
2013-06-24 11:35:55 AM
To be fair, they got to go against Pedro Stroep. That's basically a guaranteed win.
 
2013-06-24 11:54:45 AM

rbaron71: Hopefully the Jays will be able to handle the inevitable loss in stride.

I still think that it's too little, too late, but I would love to be wrong.


3 games out of a wild card spot and 5 games back from the division lead with 3 or 4 games in hand and 88 left to play is too little, too late?
 
2013-06-24 11:59:47 AM

Decillion: Konowalchuk22: Amusing headline, but still a ridiculous greenlight.  It was a garden variety sweep.

Um, don't think there's been a longer MLB win streak in the last decade.


Awesome.  Maybe some clever soul could weave that into a headline.  That nugget is much more greenlight worthy.  And then the clinic thing could be weaved into it.  Then it would be worthy of linking to a snarky news aggregator.  Unfortunately, the headline suggests the Blue Jays pounded the O's 42-3 over the weekend, while presumably going 6-4 over the previous ten days.
 
2013-06-24 12:12:08 PM

Harv72b: Baltimore Orioles to Toronto Blue Jays: Congratulations on winning 11 straight and climbing all the way up to 4th place.


Interestingly, Baseball Prospectus has the AL East ranked this way as of today (best to worst), based solely on performance to date: Sox, Rays, Orioles, Jays, Yankees.

Basically, the Yankees may be 41-34, but it's smoke and mirrors.  They've allowed more runs (294) than they've scored (293), and they've had a weaker schedule to date.  In the AL, they're 14th in AVG, 12th in OBP, and 13th in SLG.  Maybe that changes as guys return from injury, but I'd still wager they'll finish below .500.

If you look at the Jays' roster, you see a lot of guys where you think "He's better than this.", especially pitching.  You'd expect those guys to improve over the second half.  If you look at the Yankees' roster, you think the opposite.  Throw a healthy Reyes onto the Jays (their middle infield has been an offensive black hole), and they look pretty credible.

Then again, maybe Grant Brisbee was right.
 
2013-06-24 12:35:10 PM

chimp_ninja: Harv72b: Baltimore Orioles to Toronto Blue Jays: Congratulations on winning 11 straight and climbing all the way up to 4th place.

Interestingly, Baseball Prospectus has the AL East ranked this way as of today (best to worst), based solely on performance to date: Sox, Rays, Orioles, Jays, Yankees.

Basically, the Yankees may be 41-34, but it's smoke and mirrors.  They've allowed more runs (294) than they've scored (293), and they've had a weaker schedule to date.  In the AL, they're 14th in AVG, 12th in OBP, and 13th in SLG.  Maybe that changes as guys return from injury, but I'd still wager they'll finish below .500.

If you look at the Jays' roster, you see a lot of guys where you think "He's better than this.", especially pitching.  You'd expect those guys to improve over the second half.  If you look at the Yankees' roster, you think the opposite.  Throw a healthy Reyes onto the Jays (their middle infield has been an offensive black hole), and they look pretty credible.

Then again, maybe Grant Brisbee was right.


I hate that article because it is ALWAYS right.

All of my Yankee friends/coworkers openly admit they're not watching this team til September.
 
2013-06-24 12:38:39 PM

NutznGum: rbaron71: Hopefully the Jays will be able to handle the inevitable loss in stride.

I still think that it's too little, too late, but I would love to be wrong.

3 games out of a wild card spot and 5 games back from the division lead with 3 or 4 games in hand and 88 left to play is too little, too late?


Like I said, I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't think they can keep a solid pace up as the season progresses.
 
2013-06-24 12:53:14 PM

thecpt: All of my Yankee friends/coworkers openly admit they're not watching this team til September.


Why not?
 
2013-06-24 01:13:01 PM
Bautista should have been plunked yesterday by Garcia in the first...causing both to be thrown out of the game when Bautista inevitably would have stormed the mound.  Bautista standing on top of the plate and showing up pitchers after a homerun is laughable and unprofessional.  Whatta douchebag.

/Good hitter, though.
 
2013-06-24 01:24:20 PM

JohnnyBravo: Bautista should have been plunked yesterday by Garcia in the first...causing both to be thrown out of the game when Bautista inevitably would have stormed the mound.  Bautista standing on top of the plate and showing up pitchers after a homerun is laughable and unprofessional.  Whatta douchebag.

/Good hitter, though.


You talking about the one he hit on O'Day? The day after O'Day chirped after striking him out? If so I only saw him say something as he rounded third.
 
2013-06-24 01:24:58 PM

degenerate-afro: thecpt: All of my Yankee friends/coworkers openly admit they're not watching this team til September.

Why not?


Not "watching" is going too far, but I'm not getting excited about this team. They are waayyyyy worse than their record shows
 
2013-06-24 01:30:21 PM

inclemency: JohnnyBravo: Bautista should have been plunked yesterday by Garcia in the first...causing both to be thrown out of the game when Bautista inevitably would have stormed the mound.  Bautista standing on top of the plate and showing up pitchers after a homerun is laughable and unprofessional.  Whatta douchebag.

/Good hitter, though.

You talking about the one he hit on O'Day? The day after O'Day chirped after striking him out? If so I only saw him say something as he rounded third.


It was pretty much "You gonna talk now tough guy?", nothing to get exited about.
 
2013-06-24 01:34:07 PM
It's just so nice to have a full crowd again.  Makes me job sound that much better.

Hopefully, they can continue to play good baseball.
 
2013-06-24 01:34:26 PM

inclemency: JohnnyBravo: Bautista should have been plunked yesterday by Garcia in the first...causing both to be thrown out of the game when Bautista inevitably would have stormed the mound.  Bautista standing on top of the plate and showing up pitchers after a homerun is laughable and unprofessional.  Whatta douchebag.

/Good hitter, though.

You talking about the one he hit on O'Day? The day after O'Day chirped after striking him out? If so I only saw him say something as he rounded third.


Yeah, that and standing on the plate.  I didn't see any chirp from O'Day.  He should have at least been thrown a few back off pitches.  Plus, I was hoping Garcia wouldnt hurt us that bad.  I had a feeling he was going to get shelled.  Which he did.

/3rd base side, Club level tonight at Camden Yards vs Cleveland
 
2013-06-24 01:41:20 PM

Rex_Banner: degenerate-afro: thecpt: All of my Yankee friends/coworkers openly admit they're not watching this team til September.

Why not?

Not "watching" is going too far, but I'm not getting excited about this team. They are waayyyyy worse than their record shows


The one spot where I feel bad for Yankee fans:  Baseball is an amazing sport to see live.  If you can't get down to the ballpark a half dozen, dozen times a year, it's hard to really be a fan and really hard to be excited about a team.  With the insane cost of Yankee tickets, I just don't see how casual fans can get excited.

/ Love that you can get Tigers tickets for around $10-12 a piece.
// A Wednesday evening in July, a couple beers, a hotdog and a few friends at the ballpark is awesome.
 
2013-06-24 01:45:25 PM

JohnnyBravo: inclemency: JohnnyBravo: Bautista should have been plunked yesterday by Garcia in the first...causing both to be thrown out of the game when Bautista inevitably would have stormed the mound.  Bautista standing on top of the plate and showing up pitchers after a homerun is laughable and unprofessional.  Whatta douchebag.

/Good hitter, though.

You talking about the one he hit on O'Day? The day after O'Day chirped after striking him out? If so I only saw him say something as he rounded third.

Yeah, that and standing on the plate.  I didn't see any chirp from O'Day.  He should have at least been thrown a few back off pitches.  Plus, I was hoping Garcia wouldnt hurt us that bad.  I had a feeling he was going to get shelled.  Which he did.

/3rd base side, Club level tonight at Camden Yards vs Cleveland


O'day chirped him the game before and Bautista paid him back. When they plunked Rajai Davis yesterday, he hit a 3 run doublee. I'd say you're better off leaving him alone.
 
2013-06-24 01:58:38 PM

rbaron71: NutznGum: rbaron71: Hopefully the Jays will be able to handle the inevitable loss in stride.

I still think that it's too little, too late, but I would love to be wrong.

3 games out of a wild card spot and 5 games back from the division lead with 3 or 4 games in hand and 88 left to play is too little, too late?

Like I said, I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't think they can keep a solid pace up as the season progresses.


Obviously they're going to come down to Earth... And soon. But I think it was obviously underperforming. And since starting 10-21 they were 17-15 BEFORE the 11 gamer. They've found some stride, have weathered injuries, and are three games out of the playoffs with MORE THAN HALF OF THE SEASON yet to play. Calling them out of it is a fool's game.
 
2013-06-24 02:01:25 PM

degenerate-afro: thecpt: All of my Yankee friends/coworkers openly admit they're not watching this team til September.

Why not?


Other than the reasons mentioned, a lot of them don't feel like its their team.
 
2013-06-24 02:52:58 PM

chimp_ninja: Basically, the Yankees may be 41-34, but it's smoke and mirrors.


Considering that instead of the perennial All Star team the Yankees have fielded for the past decade and a half, the roster this year is pretty much "Robbie Cano and Some Dudes", I think smoke and mirrors is pretty much the best Yankees fans are hoping for.

thecpt: Other than the reasons mentioned, a lot of them don't feel like its their team.


Oh boo hoo.. tell them to nut up. I can only assume they're too young to have been Yankees fans from those halcyon days of the 80s.
 
2013-06-24 03:00:02 PM

The Bestest: chimp_ninja: Basically, the Yankees may be 41-34, but it's smoke and mirrors.

Considering that instead of the perennial All Star team the Yankees have fielded for the past decade and a half, the roster this year is pretty much "Robbie Cano and Some Dudes", I think smoke and mirrors is pretty much the best Yankees fans are hoping for.

thecpt: Other than the reasons mentioned, a lot of them don't feel like its their team.

Oh boo hoo.. tell them to nut up. I can only assume they're too young to have been Yankees fans from those halcyon days of the 80s.


For the most part they are too young but do you think I have sympathy for them? My team has reached the playoffs since I was six and I still watch at least 60 games a year
 
2013-06-24 03:03:02 PM
Oops meant hasnt
 
2013-06-24 03:06:43 PM

thecpt: degenerate-afro: thecpt: All of my Yankee friends/coworkers openly admit they're not watching this team til September.

Why not?

Other than the reasons mentioned, a lot of them don't feel like its their team.


I guess since I've been a fan of the Orioles since the 70s, that's pretty strange to me.  Cano, Jeter, Granderson, and Rivera are still there.  The Yankees fans were proud about "stealing" people like A-rod, Teixeira, Sabathia, Ichiro, and especially Youkilis so that they could rub it into other teams faces (less so with Ichiro, but definitely the case with the other four).

So now that they aren't winning, it no longer feels like their team?  Is Lyle Overbay that much of a foreign object?

I'll admit there were times when I didn't feel comfortable with players on the Orioles (Albert Belle fark that guy), but I've never said "that's not my team".  I've just said "my team sucks".
 
2013-06-24 03:14:18 PM

degenerate-afro: thecpt: degenerate-afro: thecpt: All of my Yankee friends/coworkers openly admit they're not watching this team til September.

Why not?

Other than the reasons mentioned, a lot of them don't feel like its their team.

I guess since I've been a fan of the Orioles since the 70s, that's pretty strange to me.  Cano, Jeter, Granderson, and Rivera are still there.  The Yankees fans were proud about "stealing" people like A-rod, Teixeira, Sabathia, Ichiro, and especially Youkilis so that they could rub it into other teams faces (less so with Ichiro, but definitely the case with the other four).

So now that they aren't winning, it no longer feels like their team?  Is Lyle Overbay that much of a foreign object?

I'll admit there were times when I didn't feel comfortable with players on the Orioles (Albert Belle fark that guy), but I've never said "that's not my team".  I've just said "my team sucks".


Like I said that's not the one reason, it's just added disinterest for the first half of the season. No granderson, tex, roid, jeter, catcher is whoever, cc isn't having a great year, other starters having dl stints. They usually only add one big fa at a time. Considering traditionally how their team functions this is a huge difference. I think they're used to watching the second half more anyways.


Just so I'm clear, this isn't meant to represent the farkers on here. Just what I've ascertained from the numerous fans I know in the Yankee haven that is Fairfield county.
 
2013-06-24 03:21:44 PM
I'm just saying, if these guys think THIS year is rough, they're in for a nasty surprise the next few years.
 
2013-06-24 03:25:44 PM

thecpt: The Bestest: chimp_ninja: Basically, the Yankees may be 41-34, but it's smoke and mirrors.

Considering that instead of the perennial All Star team the Yankees have fielded for the past decade and a half, the roster this year is pretty much "Robbie Cano and Some Dudes", I think smoke and mirrors is pretty much the best Yankees fans are hoping for.

thecpt: Other than the reasons mentioned, a lot of them don't feel like its their team.

Oh boo hoo.. tell them to nut up. I can only assume they're too young to have been Yankees fans from those halcyon days of the 80s.

For the most part they are too young but do you think I have sympathy for them? My team has reached the playoffs since I was six and I still watch at least 60 games a year


Yeah, no sympathy for those guys. I mean, I don't think this team is going to be there at the end of the year, but I still watch almost every game. Gotta take the ups with the downs.
 
2013-06-24 03:42:08 PM

meanmutton: Rex_Banner: degenerate-afro: thecpt: All of my Yankee friends/coworkers openly admit they're not watching this team til September.

Why not?

Not "watching" is going too far, but I'm not getting excited about this team. They are waayyyyy worse than their record shows

The one spot where I feel bad for Yankee fans:  Baseball is an amazing sport to see live.  If you can't get down to the ballpark a half dozen, dozen times a year, it's hard to really be a fan and really hard to be excited about a team.  With the insane cost of Yankee tickets, I just don't see how casual fans can get excited.

/ Love that you can get Tigers tickets for around $10-12 a piece.
// A Wednesday evening in July, a couple beers, a hotdog and a few friends at the ballpark is awesome.


Never mind, fark that.  I just checked stubhub and there are hundreds of tickets available to Tuesday night's game for under $25.  No sympathy at all.
 
2013-06-24 05:01:52 PM

meanmutton: Rex_Banner: degenerate-afro: thecpt: All of my Yankee friends/coworkers openly admit they're not watching this team til September.

Why not?

Not "watching" is going too far, but I'm not getting excited about this team. They are waayyyyy worse than their record shows

The one spot where I feel bad for Yankee fans:  Baseball is an amazing sport to see live.  If you can't get down to the ballpark a half dozen, dozen times a year, it's hard to really be a fan and really hard to be excited about a team.  With the insane cost of Yankee tickets, I just don't see how casual fans can get excited.

/ Love that you can get Tigers tickets for around $10-12 a piece.
// A Wednesday evening in July, a couple beers, a hotdog and a few friends at the ballpark is awesome.


Insane cost?

I went to NYC as part of an east coast vacation last season.  I, and my two brothers obtained tix for the Rays/Yanks game.  Upper deck,  directly behind home plate with a beautiful view, all for less than $30 a seat.

I wouldn't consider that "insane" by any stretch.
 
2013-06-24 05:08:56 PM

rbaron71: NutznGum: rbaron71: Hopefully the Jays will be able to handle the inevitable loss in stride.

I still think that it's too little, too late, but I would love to be wrong.

3 games out of a wild card spot and 5 games back from the division lead with 3 or 4 games in hand and 88 left to play is too little, too late?

Like I said, I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't think they can keep a solid pace up as the season progresses.


Why?

Before their streak they were starting to turn things around.  I think slightly better than .500 ball.

They have guys that should be better than what they presently are, and they have a proper prototypical lead-off hitter about to join them within the week that will spark the offense.

JoeyBats isn't this poor of a hitter (conversely all-world Adam Lind isn't this good of one), they have arguably their best pitcher still on the DL, and a very good defensive 3rd baseman (even though he can't hit shiat) also on the DL.

Will they rip off double digit winning streaks again this season?  No probably not.

Can they play .600 ball the rest of the way?  Barring injury, it's rather probable that they can, which should be enough for a WC spot, and perhaps the division if they are lucky.
 
2013-06-24 05:47:53 PM

Decillion: Um, don't think there's been a longer MLB win streak in the last decade.


If by "last decade" you mean "almost two years", then you are correct.

tmo72: This from the team that's only 2 losses away from 4th place.

ugh, 3 losses. Point is, you aren't that far ahead.


You say 3 games out of fourth place, I say 2 games out of first place. ;)
 
2013-06-24 10:14:44 PM
Rays: "where's your streak now?"
 
2013-06-24 11:00:40 PM

The Bestest: Rays: "where's your streak now?"



Seriously? ;-)
 
2013-06-24 11:02:18 PM

The Bestest: Rays: "where's your streak now?"


Nice streak of their own with three solo shots
 
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