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(ESPN)   Doc Rivers, who was first going to sign with the Clippers, then wasn't, then was traded to the Clippers, then wasn't, then was, then disappeared and became a being of pure energy, then fled to Colombia, has now been traded to the Clippers   (espn.go.com) divider line 65
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2013-06-23 06:43:50 PM
He was great on the Johnny Carson Show.
 
2013-06-23 10:26:00 PM
I just...I mean...well...

I guess I can stop watching basketball now.

Now, just football and hockey left.

It sucks, because I was always entertained by sports growing up, but now seeing what is reality it makes me sad having to say goodbye to yet another venture that is not as honorable as I was led to believe for all my life.
 
2013-06-23 10:34:50 PM

jaylectricity: I just...I mean...well...

I guess I can stop watching basketball now.

Now, just football and hockey left.

It sucks, because I was always entertained by sports growing up, but now seeing what is reality it makes me sad having to say goodbye to yet another venture that is not as honorable as I was led to believe for all my life.


It's hard trying to leave the NBA behind. I still love my Cavs, but having realized what the NBA really is over the past few years, it's become really hard to care about them the way I have since I was seven years old.
 
2013-06-23 10:41:01 PM

CavalierEternal: It's hard trying to leave the NBA behind. I still love my Cavs, but having realized what the NBA really is over the past few years, it's become really hard to care about them the way I have since I was seven years old.


It's sports in general. I grew up believing that being a professional baseball player was the most successful job you could have.

If you look at my scrapbooks from my childhood, it was a toss-up between being a baseball player or a fireman.

I'd rather be a fireman, but even that is a profession I've looked a little deeper into and lost a lot of respect for.
 
2013-06-24 12:46:08 AM
Pretty sure this is the first time in NBA history someone wanted to leave the Celtics to join the Clippers.
 
2013-06-24 12:47:09 AM

Goomba: Pretty sure this is the first time in NBA history someone wanted to leave the Celtics to join the Clippers.


You're sure? I mean, I'd rather go sailing than eat potatoes.
 
2013-06-24 12:53:38 AM

jaylectricity: I just...I mean...well...

I guess I can stop watching basketball now.

Now, just football and hockey left.

It sucks, because I was always entertained by sports growing up, but now seeing what is reality it makes me sad having to say goodbye to yet another venture that is not as honorable as I was led to believe for all my life.


So uh, what is it about this trade that's the deathblow for the NBA?
 
2013-06-24 01:08:11 AM
clippers fans deserve to be clippers fans
 
2013-06-24 01:20:35 AM

jaylectricity: Goomba: Pretty sure this is the first time in NBA history someone wanted to leave the Celtics to join the Clippers.

You're sure? I mean, I'd rather go sailing than eat potatoes.


Snort
 
2013-06-24 01:52:43 AM
blog.mysleepschool.com
 
2013-06-24 01:59:23 AM
so long as sterling runs the clippers it doesnt matter
 
2013-06-24 02:06:27 AM

jaylectricity: CavalierEternal: It's hard trying to leave the NBA behind. I still love my Cavs, but having realized what the NBA really is over the past few years, it's become really hard to care about them the way I have since I was seven years old.

It's sports in general. I grew up believing that being a professional baseball player was the most successful job you could have.

If you look at my scrapbooks from my childhood, it was a toss-up between being a baseball player or a fireman.

I'd rather be a fireman, but even that is a profession I've looked a little deeper into and lost a lot of respect for.


All the pearls of wisdom I have gathered over the years have coalesced into a hypothesis that "I'm only human" is the ultimate excuse, because it is unavoidably true.  We are just not there yet.
 
2013-06-24 02:58:21 AM
Eh I'd be more impressed if it were easy to be a coach without 3 HOF level players on your roster. Lord knows he was indisputably mediocre when he didn't. He's not worth that kind of money or draft pick for that matter

/ TMac and Hill should have been all he needed
// Love to see the responses to this "belief"
 
2013-06-24 03:35:44 AM
Jokes on the Clippers, Doc Rivers is a terrible coach.
 
2013-06-24 05:04:35 AM
You can trade coaches? Is this an NBA thing or something?
 
2013-06-24 05:24:02 AM
Bye Doc.
Great guy, great interview, and mediocre at developing young players.

I suspect he wants no part of babysitting Rondo anymore - don't blame Doc a bit.
 
2013-06-24 05:25:41 AM

jaylectricity: I guess I can stop watching basketball now.


Doc Rivers meant that much to you?
 
2013-06-24 07:40:30 AM
www.sciencesortof.com
 
2013-06-24 08:28:23 AM

jaylectricity: I just...I mean...well...

I guess I can stop watching basketball now.

Now, just football and hockey left.

It sucks, because I was always entertained by sports growing up, but now seeing what is reality it makes me sad having to say goodbye to yet another venture that is not as honorable as I was led to believe for all my life.


This is quite an odd comment.  What is so odd about a team trading a coach?  What's the difference between trading a coach or a player?

Especially coming from the fan base who basically traded for Bill Belichick
 
2013-06-24 08:32:52 AM
Welp, the Hawks are permafarked now. (I know there was like a 2% chance they weren't already but at least there was 2%).
 
2013-06-24 08:36:26 AM

Dafatone: jaylectricity: I just...I mean...well...

I guess I can stop watching basketball now.

Now, just football and hockey left.

It sucks, because I was always entertained by sports growing up, but now seeing what is reality it makes me sad having to say goodbye to yet another venture that is not as honorable as I was led to believe for all my life.

So uh, what is it about this trade that's the deathblow for the NBA?


Yeah, I am confused too.  Glad they were able to get a first round pick,
 
2013-06-24 08:39:22 AM
I didn't know you can do that.
 
2013-06-24 08:42:31 AM

soupafi: I didn't know you can do that.


Didnt the Clips do the same thing for Mike Dunleavy?
 
2013-06-24 08:51:22 AM
GM's are going to try and put NCA's into all coaching contracts now.  Way to screw your counterparts, Doc.

Foxxinnia: You can trade coaches? Is this an NBA thing or something?


It is now!
 
2013-06-24 08:54:13 AM
 
2013-06-24 09:03:33 AM
I just don't see how this is going to end well.
 
2013-06-24 09:04:35 AM

browneye: I just don't see how this is going to end well.


For the Celtics?
 
2013-06-24 09:07:31 AM

Foxxinnia: You can trade coaches? Is this an NBA thing or something?


Technically there is nothing stopping any pair of teams from trading any employees who are under contract, assuming the employees involved are amenable to the transition and appropriate compensation is provided. However, such transactions are not covered by the CBA, and possibly operate outside the realm of Stern's control. Though I imagine this is a topic that may have to be sorted out by the courts since I doubt Stern shares that opinion.
 
2013-06-24 09:11:14 AM

redmid17: Eh I'd be more impressed if it were easy to be a coach without 3 HOF level players on your roster. Lord knows he was indisputably mediocre when he didn't. He's not worth that kind of money or draft pick for that matter

/ TMac and Hill should have been all he needed
// Love to see the responses to this "belief"


I'll bite. Grant Hill's ankle called, he says you forgot about something. As per a recent Grantland piece, Hill only played 18 games his first two years in Orlando. This is corroborated by NBA.com statistics. Also, Hill has stated in several interviews (particularly during his stay with the Suns) that he was never healthy in Orlando and actually blames the training staff for his constant injury woes. As the Grantland article notes, they signed TMac and Hill to big contracts and had to fit smaller pieces around those two. With Hill out for 2 years and not healthy for the rest (he played more than 60 games only twice in six years), it would be hard for anyone to coach that team deep into the playoffs. Considering that situation, he did decently well. I will agree with another poster, however, that he has done a generally poor job developing young players.
 
2013-06-24 09:16:54 AM

Hardy-r-r: Bye Doc.
Great guy, great interview, and mediocre at developing young players.

I suspect he wants no part of babysitting Rondo anymore - don't blame Doc a bit.


More importantly.

Last week:  Rivers and KG want to leave Celtics together destroying any good will they had in that locker room and were abandoning Paul Pierce.
End of Last Week: Both trades are canned, meaning KG and Rivers have to find some way to gain control of a locker room they both tried to leave, with Rondo coming back pissed about being written off as not needed (meaning he was going to dominate the ball more and stagnate the offense).
Weekend: Only Rivers is going, see ya KG!
This week: Rondo, PP, KG, everyone else in the locker room in a truxican standoff.
 
2013-06-24 09:27:32 AM
Feaking celtics. They have a coach who wants to quit and turn him into a first round pick.
 
2013-06-24 09:37:14 AM

Foxxinnia: You can trade coaches? Is this an NBA thing or something?


I knew it had happened somewhat recently in the NFL, and had to look it up. It was Gruden.

Famous trades involving coaches and managers
 
2013-06-24 09:41:56 AM
You can't trade coaches, at least not in the NBA.   What the Clippers did was give the Celtics a 1st round pick to agree to dissolve Rivers' contract, with an agreement with Doc that he'd come coach for them.  The Clippers have zero legal claim on Rivers' services until he signs their deal, and there'd be nothing stopping him from signing with another team or quitting altogether.
 
2013-06-24 09:47:29 AM

The Guitar Solo from Ride the Lightning: You can't trade coaches, at least not in the NBA.   What the Clippers did was give the Celtics a 1st round pick to agree to dissolve Rivers' contract, with an agreement with Doc that he'd come coach for them.  The Clippers have zero legal claim on Rivers' services until he signs their deal, and there'd be nothing stopping him from signing with another team or quitting altogether.


I assume it is all tied up in a single contract dictating the switch, such that if he declines to sign with the Clippers, the Celtics don't dissolve his original contract and no picks are exchanged. So, in essence, it's an atomic operation. AKA - a trade
 
2013-06-24 10:08:38 AM

Champion of the Sun: Feaking celtics. They have a coach who wants to quit and turn him into a first round pick.


That's one way of looking at it.  The other way of looking at it is that they have a guy with a Kobe-like reputation, running players and coaches out of town.  Except instead of being an alltime NBA great,  it's Rajon Rondo.  A guy whose assist:turnover ratio will be trending toward even next year.
 
2013-06-24 10:12:06 AM

MugzyBrown: jaylectricity: I just...I mean...well...

I guess I can stop watching basketball now.

Now, just football and hockey left.

It sucks, because I was always entertained by sports growing up, but now seeing what is reality it makes me sad having to say goodbye to yet another venture that is not as honorable as I was led to believe for all my life.

This is quite an odd comment.  What is so odd about a team trading a coach?  What's the difference between trading a coach or a player?

Especially coming from the fan base who basically traded for Bill Belichick


It's just more "NBA is dying" handwringing from people that don't even watch the farking NBA. Also see every NBA thread ever which is guaranteed to have someone say x is ruining/has ruined the NBA where x = flopping, Stern, the Heat, refs, thugs, tatooes, relocation or any other number of BS reasons why the NBA is not as good as it was in the 60s 70s 80s or 90s depending on the age of the whiner.

/really? Trading a coach is the the last straw huh? In a players' league, trading a coach means you're not watching the NBA anymore? What ever.
//Doc easily makes the Clippers the 3-5 best team in the West, I'm not watching the NBA anymore! Poutrage activated.
 
2013-06-24 10:27:41 AM
FTA: pending league approval, according to sources.

I don't know that Stern will be able to keep his hands off this.

The coverage about this story, and the accompanying speculation about motivations and reactions to speculations about motivations has been sickening.

If this "trade" goes through then I wish Doc luck and hope the Cs can turn a late first rounder into an impact player.
 
2013-06-24 10:31:59 AM
js34603:

x is ruining/has ruined the NBA where x = flopping, Stern, the Heat, refs, thugs, tatooes, relocation or any other number of BS reasons why the NBA is not as good as it was


My "x" is players that get out on the court after being given direction by their coaches but then just do whatever they want.  Of the major sports, it's easiest to get lazy and still score and no urgency to prevent scoring, save for at the end in a close game.  When done right, it's a symphony and you win so much more than you lose.  And that's what frustrates me most.  No one's ever accused a Doc Rivers team of overachieving, but he had a team that played the right way usually.   Now it's just a guy dribbling down the court and either passing to his best friend of the week or bricking a 17-foot jumper.  There's no one left to play defense, and there's no one left to coach it.  We're entering the Pitino zone again.  Where's Antoine Walker?
 
2013-06-24 10:33:33 AM
What a joke. The Clippers are and will continue to be a laughingstock, now with 7 million a year coaching flop accessory set.
 
2013-06-24 10:35:00 AM

Nana's Vibrator: Champion of the Sun: Feaking celtics. They have a coach who wants to quit and turn him into a first round pick.

That's one way of looking at it.  The other way of looking at it is that they have a guy with a Kobe-like reputation, running players and coaches out of town.  Except instead of being an alltime NBA great,  it's Rajon Rondo.  A guy whose assist:turnover ratio will be trending toward even next year.


I need to hear a bit more about this most recent story.
 
2013-06-24 10:40:41 AM

Nana's Vibrator: js34603:

x is ruining/has ruined the NBA where x = flopping, Stern, the Heat, refs, thugs, tatooes, relocation or any other number of BS reasons why the NBA is not as good as it was


My "x" is players that get out on the court after being given direction by their coaches but then just do whatever they want.  Of the major sports, it's easiest to get lazy and still score and no urgency to prevent scoring, save for at the end in a close game.  When done right, it's a symphony and you win so much more than you lose.  And that's what frustrates me most.  No one's ever accused a Doc Rivers team of overachieving, but he had a team that played the right way usually.   Now it's just a guy dribbling down the court and either passing to his best friend of the week or bricking a 17-foot jumper.  There's no one left to play defense, and there's no one left to coach it.  We're entering the Pitino zone again.  Where's Antoine Walker?


redsarmy.com

Easy there, Chicken Little.
 
2013-06-24 10:44:03 AM

bertor_vidas: redmid17: Eh I'd be more impressed if it were easy to be a coach without 3 HOF level players on your roster. Lord knows he was indisputably mediocre when he didn't. He's not worth that kind of money or draft pick for that matter

/ TMac and Hill should have been all he needed
// Love to see the responses to this "belief"

I'll bite. Grant Hill's ankle called, he says you forgot about something. As per a recent Grantland piece, Hill only played 18 games his first two years in Orlando. This is corroborated by NBA.com statistics. Also, Hill has stated in several interviews (particularly during his stay with the Suns) that he was never healthy in Orlando and actually blames the training staff for his constant injury woes. As the Grantland article notes, they signed TMac and Hill to big contracts and had to fit smaller pieces around those two. With Hill out for 2 years and not healthy for the rest (he played more than 60 games only twice in six years), it would be hard for anyone to coach that team deep into the playoffs. Considering that situation, he did decently well. I will agree with another poster, however, that he has done a generally poor job developing young players.


Ws going to type a similar rant about how Son of Calvin's ankle hamstrung the Magic for years. Also, let me trhow in a quick fark T-Mac for quitting on the team and not even trying to hide it and play like a professional in his last Orlando season. The best thing about the re-Heat is McGrady not getting a ring.
 
2013-06-24 10:47:42 AM
I may not love where the Celtics are and what their near term outlook has become, however, they do have some nice pieces and might be fun to watch coming up.  That's my hope anyhow, that and that they hit on something good near term.
 
2013-06-24 10:51:48 AM

Nana's Vibrator: js34603:

x is ruining/has ruined the NBA where x = flopping, Stern, the Heat, refs, thugs, tatooes, relocation or any other number of BS reasons why the NBA is not as good as it was


My "x" is players that get out on the court after being given direction by their coaches but then just do whatever they want.  Of the major sports, it's easiest to get lazy and still score and no urgency to prevent scoring, save for at the end in a close game.  When done right, it's a symphony and you win so much more than you lose.  And that's what frustrates me most.  No one's ever accused a Doc Rivers team of overachieving, but he had a team that played the right way usually.   Now it's just a guy dribbling down the court and either passing to his best friend of the week or bricking a 17-foot jumper.  There's no one left to play defense, and there's no one left to coach it.  We're entering the Pitino zone again.  Where's Antoine Walker?


www.cheeseandmeats.com
 
2013-06-24 10:55:55 AM

Gunny Highway: [redsarmy.com image 512x288]

Easy there, Chicken Little.


Dammit, don't remind me that the Celtics have another player with a heart condition.  You're making it worse!  No coaches, ok players running good guys out of town, and people dropping dead on the court every few years.  Wanna kick my dog?
 
2013-06-24 10:57:53 AM

Nana's Vibrator: Gunny Highway: [redsarmy.com image 512x288]

Easy there, Chicken Little.

Dammit, don't remind me that the Celtics have another player with a heart condition.  You're making it worse!  No coaches, ok players running good guys out of town, and people dropping dead on the court every few years.  Wanna kick my dog?


This next season is going to be veeery interesting.

/what kind of dog?
 
2013-06-24 11:00:08 AM
shacklingbrawn.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-24 11:12:46 AM

js34603: It's just more "NBA is dying" handwringing from people that don't even watch the farking NBA.


No, it's not. I think the NBA is stronger than ever. I'm just saying that me, personally, have had enough. I personally have grown up in the last 40 years or so and have grown tired of what sports means.

I will still be hypocritical and watch the Patriots and the Bruins play, but if today is any indication, I image that I will grow weary of them and their respective leagues, as well.

TheJoe03: Doc Rivers meant that much to you?


I don't care about losing him. I just am tired of this circus act. I stopped watching baseball when the Red Sox fired Terry Francona and then proceeded to trash him, and try to make him look bad on the way out.

I didn't change teams or anything like that. I just dont. watch. baseball. Having every night free during the summer has opened up my life to a whole new world of things.
 
2013-06-24 11:36:04 AM
I'm guessing it was his work as the Magic head coach that made him such an amazing coach.
 
2013-06-24 11:38:50 AM
Gunny Highway:

This next season is going to be veeery interesting.

/what kind of dog?


The hope factor is interesting right now - if Rondo and Green can take their careers to the next level; if Boston can attract and afford top free agents; can they upgrade the coaching staff...
Juggle that with game 6 and 7 (yes, 7!) of the Stanley Cup this week, the Red Sox playing well but sadly not yet built to go deep into the playoffs, and the Patriots needing to replace a murderous tight end while waiting for their wreckless tight end and newly signed slot receiver to heal.  Crazy.  This week, I'm at 50% productivity at best.

/I actually don't have a dog and I'd kick the stupid cat myself if I were an animal kicker.  I should be an animal kicker.
 
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