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(BBC)   The book is 240 pages long, is written in an unknown alphabet and features mysterious pictures of unknown plants, astronomical images and naked women bathing (Safe for work)   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 117
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2013-06-23 05:52:10 PM
"However, I still feel that it's very much an open question and
I may change my mind a few times before a proof is obtained
one way or the other."

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2013-06-23 07:11:27 PM
Oh, I have an electronic copy of this.
 
2013-06-23 07:14:38 PM
We already have one. It's very nice.
 
2013-06-23 09:15:56 PM
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-06-23 09:37:07 PM
Done in four.

/there's an XKCD for everything.  You'll see.
 
2013-06-23 09:38:14 PM
Sounds like Voynich.

Oh.  It's Voynich.

It seems pretty obvious that this was an olden-days prop used by some mystic or apothecary who wanted to impress potential customers.
 
2013-06-23 09:38:46 PM
naked women bathing

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2013-06-23 09:38:49 PM
The Voynich Manuscript
The true history and meaning of history's most famous undeciphered book.

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4252

tl;dr  Podcast Link: http://skeptoid.com/audio/skeptoid-4252.mp3

Some good info on the subject.

Enjoy!
 
2013-06-23 09:39:23 PM
Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.
 
2013-06-23 09:40:10 PM
 
2013-06-23 09:40:19 PM

Fair_Poopsmith: Sounds like Voynich.

Oh.  It's Voynich.

It seems pretty obvious that this was an olden-days prop used by some mystic or apothecary who wanted to impress potential customers.


Indeed!
 
2013-06-23 09:40:46 PM
Kittypie, care to send me a link to it?

I've been wondering for a while if its not just encoded music.
 
2013-06-23 09:41:34 PM

Fair_Poopsmith: Sounds like Voynich.

Oh.  It's Voynich.

It seems pretty obvious that this was an olden-days prop used by some mystic or apothecary who wanted to impress potential customers.


That is my guess as well
 
2013-06-23 09:41:38 PM
FTA: "Many theories have appeared about the book, one of which is that it is an ancient herbal remedy book, though why some pages feature images of bathing naked ladies remains unclear."

It's clear to me. What ladies bathe fully clothed? Sheesh.
 
2013-06-23 09:42:26 PM

Nefarious: [imgs.xkcd.com image 740x483]


Came here to post that, but I see it's been covered.

I do wonder, though: did medieval cosplayers exist?

I mean, at Ye Olde Rolle-Playeing Gamer's Connventionne, what did people wear?

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Ladies, thine invitations didst proclaim thou were'st supposed to dress in a fantastickal manner!  Why then, didst thou clad thineselves in mundane, ordinary garb?  Gadzooks!
 
2013-06-23 09:45:41 PM
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Intrigued.
 
2013-06-23 09:45:42 PM
CSB time:

A few years ago, I didn't know about this manuscript. My mom's 2nd husband had a dream once, he told us it was some weird collection of words, but that he couldn't remember clearly except for SAFA COSO. I end up googling that and after a comprehensive search that bore no meaningful results I end up at lycaeum.org and other than SAFA COSO the only other thing I can understand there is the word PARALINGUA. I google that and end up learning about the Voynich Manuscript.

It amazed me because my stepfather was not a book person and he was barely literate. I'm 100% sure he doesn't know about the Voynich Manuscript, much less has read it.

Maybe this is some kind of deep inherent thing from the human psyche. Like we come with a preloaded language but then we forget it once we learn the language our parents speak.

Maybe if a baby wasn't taught an existing language he'll grow up to speak this strange tongue.

It's very weird and it probably has clues into human origin.
 
2013-06-23 09:48:12 PM
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2013-06-23 09:49:48 PM

Mister Peejay: there's an XKCD for everything.  You'll see.


I call that "ciberido's 8th law."  Not that I was the first to think of it, just that I hadn't heard any other name for that particular observation.
 
2013-06-23 09:50:37 PM
Here's a start.

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2013-06-23 09:51:49 PM
There must be somebody in Cleveland who understands it.
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2013-06-23 09:54:15 PM
If it didn't exist, we would have to invent it.
 
2013-06-23 09:55:29 PM
From TFA:

Many theories have appeared about the book, one of which is that it is an ancient herbal remedy book, though why some pages feature images of bathing naked ladies remains unclear

The answer to that question is simple enough: why the hell shouldn't it have pictures of bathing naked ladies?
 
2013-06-23 09:56:40 PM
This is the opposite of news.
 
2013-06-23 09:57:28 PM

Parthenogenetic: Nefarious: [imgs.xkcd.com image 740x483]

Came here to post that, but I see it's been covered.

I do wonder, though: did medieval cosplayers exist?

I mean, at Ye Olde Rolle-Playeing Gamer's Connventionne, what did people wear?

[img.fark.net image 850x524]


Now that's a pair of legs.
 
2013-06-23 09:58:02 PM
 Its only stumped cryptographers for centuries, because (at least some of it) isn't a cipher.

 Linguists have pointed to possible solutions to sections of it several times, only to be casually dismissed or even shouted down by any number of 'experts' heavily emotionally invested in it being something other than easily explainable or solvable.
 
2013-06-23 09:58:39 PM
It says, "One Ring to rule them all..."
 
2013-06-23 09:58:57 PM
Not enough pictures!
 
2013-06-23 09:59:01 PM
Meh. It's pretty uninteresting until you get to this page

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Then it takes a really weird turn.
 
2013-06-23 10:02:03 PM

machoprogrammer: Fair_Poopsmith: Sounds like Voynich.

Oh.  It's Voynich.

It seems pretty obvious that this was an olden-days prop used by some mystic or apothecary who wanted to impress potential customers.

That is my guess as well


Books full of a language no one understand isn't out of use.

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2013-06-23 10:03:24 PM

rocky_howard: CSB time:

A few years ago, I didn't know about this manuscript. My mom's 2nd husband had a dream once, he told us it was some weird collection of words, but that he couldn't remember clearly except for SAFA COSO. I end up googling that and after a comprehensive search that bore no meaningful results I end up at lycaeum.org and other than SAFA COSO the only other thing I can understand there is the word PARALINGUA. I google that and end up learning about the Voynich Manuscript.

It amazed me because my stepfather was not a book person and he was barely literate. I'm 100% sure he doesn't know about the Voynich Manuscript, much less has read it.

Maybe this is some kind of deep inherent thing from the human psyche. Like we come with a preloaded language but then we forget it once we learn the language our parents speak.

Maybe if a baby wasn't taught an existing language he'll grow up to speak this strange tongue.

It's very weird and it probably has clues into human origin.


There is absolutely no possible way that could be a coincidence ;)
 
2013-06-23 10:05:14 PM
It's just lorem ipsum translated to elvish and carefully hand-copied in mirror-image.
 
2013-06-23 10:07:49 PM

Fair_Poopsmith: Sounds like Voynich.

Oh.  It's Voynich.

It seems pretty obvious that this was an olden-days prop used by some mystic or apothecary who wanted to impress potential customers.


Yup. And here we are, endlessly puzzling over it. There is no message.
Look into a stream of completely random characters and even then, you'll start to find coincidences and similarities. They are looking for something that simply isn't there.
 
2013-06-23 10:08:05 PM
Voynich? clicks. Voynich

moving along.

/used a page sample from voynich as a background element on a website design proposal once as a joke.
 
2013-06-23 10:08:11 PM
Weird scribblings and random sketches of plants, stars and naked women? Where's the mystery in that? It's obviously some ancient school kid's economics notebook. I had the same junk in mine (minus the weird scribblings and sketches of plants and stars).
 
2013-06-23 10:09:31 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Meh. It's pretty uninteresting until you get to this page

[img.fark.net image 507x749]

Then it takes a really weird turn.


So if we translate it we can reopen the door to  R'lyeh ?
 
2013-06-23 10:13:20 PM

wildcardjack: machoprogrammer: Fair_Poopsmith: Sounds like Voynich.

Oh.  It's Voynich.

It seems pretty obvious that this was an olden-days prop used by some mystic or apothecary who wanted to impress potential customers.

That is my guess as well

Books full of a language no one understand isn't out of use.

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[img.fark.net image 606x434]


Is it just me, or is that bookcase image really screwy when scrolled?
 
2013-06-23 10:14:45 PM

rocky_howard: CSB time:

A few years ago, I didn't know about this manuscript. My mom's 2nd husband had a dream once, he told us it was some weird collection of words, but that he couldn't remember clearly except for SAFA COSO. I end up googling that and after a comprehensive search that bore no meaningful results I end up at lycaeum.org and other than SAFA COSO the only other thing I can understand there is the word PARALINGUA. I google that and end up learning about the Voynich Manuscript.

It amazed me because my stepfather was not a book person and he was barely literate. I'm 100% sure he doesn't know about the Voynich Manuscript, much less has read it.

Maybe this is some kind of deep inherent thing from the human psyche. Like we come with a preloaded language but then we forget it once we learn the language our parents speak.

Maybe if a baby wasn't taught an existing language he'll grow up to speak this strange tongue.

It's very weird and it probably has clues into human origin.


You're not helping.
 
2013-06-23 10:22:08 PM
Stuff You Missed in History Class had a good podcast episode about this a few months ago: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-voynich-manuscript/id28360551 9 ?i=136013665&mt=2  on 3/13/13
 
2013-06-23 10:24:18 PM

Pribar: ArcadianRefugee: Meh. It's pretty uninteresting until you get to this page

[img.fark.net image 507x749]

Then it takes a really weird turn.

So if we translate it we can reopen the door to  R'lyeh ?


Ia, I think so.
 
2013-06-23 10:25:41 PM

rocky_howard: A few years ago, I didn't know about this manuscript. My mom's 2nd husband had a dream once, he told us it was some weird collection of words, but that he couldn't remember clearly except for SAFA COSO. I end up googling that and after a comprehensive search that bore no meaningful results I end up at lycaeum.org and other than SAFA COSO the only other thing I can understand there is the word PARALINGUA. I google that and end up learning about the Voynich Manuscript.

[...]

It's very weird and it probably has clues into human origin.


A few years ago, I was trying to find a replacement for a SATA hotswap backplane, so I googled the part number printed on the circuit board and the first hit was the Voynich manuscript. THIS MEANS SOMETHING
 
2013-06-23 10:25:49 PM

rocky_howard: CSB time:

A few years ago, I didn't know about this manuscript. My mom's 2nd husband had a dream once, he told us it was some weird collection of words, but that he couldn't remember clearly except for SAFA COSO. I end up googling that and after a comprehensive search that bore no meaningful results I end up at lycaeum.org and other than SAFA COSO the only other thing I can understand there is the word PARALINGUA. I google that and end up learning about the Voynich Manuscript.

It amazed me because my stepfather was not a book person and he was barely literate. I'm 100% sure he doesn't know about the Voynich Manuscript, much less has read it.

Maybe this is some kind of deep inherent thing from the human psyche. Like we come with a preloaded language but then we forget it once we learn the language our parents speak.

Maybe if a baby wasn't taught an existing language he'll grow up to speak this strange tongue.

It's very weird and it probably has clues into human origin.


Think of the human brain as a highly sophisticated, organic computer. Most of what it does is take insane amounts of data and build it into a coherent string of ideas. Now, some of that data occasionally gets glitched; it should be tossed, but it's presented to the desktop as 'hey, lookit!'.

Thus, you get random shiat like that, as well as meaningful dreams\various other miscalleny from the subconcious.
 
2013-06-23 10:32:43 PM
I still have a copy of the Voynich Manuscript in .pdf from a couple of years ago.
 
2013-06-23 10:32:48 PM
It's a cook book!
 
2013-06-23 10:35:13 PM

Tony_Pepperoni: I still have a copy of the Voynich Manuscript in .pdf from a couple of years ago.


I'm sure they want it back
 
2013-06-23 10:39:29 PM
 
2013-06-23 10:40:10 PM

uber humper: Tony_Pepperoni: I still have a copy of the Voynich Manuscript in .pdf from a couple of years ago.

I'm sure they want it back


Finders keepers.  :-P
 
2013-06-23 10:47:46 PM
Be very wary of people who say, "because we haven't figured this out, it must be a hoax." Just a suggestion.
 
2013-06-23 10:49:33 PM
why do we think because something was written a long time ago it has to have  some special meaning?

They had crazies back then to.
 
2013-06-23 10:56:02 PM

rocky_howard: It's very weird and it probably has clues into human origin.


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