Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: Is there any meaningful debate going on?Nope...they're all tied up with REAL scandals like Benghazi and the IRS.
Without Fail: He's also a thief.
tenpoundsofcheese: Is there any meaningful debate going on?
DamnYankees: Darth_Lukecash: Snowden is a traitor by revealing this informationNo, he's not. He broke the law of disclosing classified information. That's an entirely separate law from treason. The whole point is that we need to stop militarizing everything as a "crime against the people!" and calm the fark down.
Lionel Mandrake: AeAe: Darth_Lukecash: Lionel Mandrake: DamnYankees: Aside from the horrible satire here, the charges are farking comical. It's only a hop skip and jump from totalitarian 'law' where the very idea of doing something illegal (i.e. against the government) is treason.Mr. A: "I think the government is violating the Constitution with increasing regularity and to a frightening extent"Mr B: "Well...that pisses me off...fk the government"Mr. A: "Hey, look, this guy released information proving my claim!"Mr. B: "F*CK THAT GUY! HANG HIM!! F*CKING TRAITOR!!1!"But here's the real issue: what the NSA did was legal and approved by the congress.Snowden is a traitor by revealing this informationNote:no one in congress is surprised by the NSA actions or calling this a scandal. Everyone is saying Snowden being a traitor.If the government does it, it's legal? What about the Japanese internment during WW2? Didn't the Army intentionally infect some people with viruses?Government spying on its citizens is wrong.Yes. All that was legal. Perfectly on the up and up. And if anyone involved had revealed classified information in an effort to derail those programs they would have been breaking the law, breaking their pledges to keep the information secret. They would have been traitors according to most people around here.A lot of f*cking FARKers would call them bad guys.What a sad, sad state of affairs.One of the things I love(d) about FARK was that a lot of folks saw the difference between "legal" and "ethical." I thought.
Lionel Mandrake: Borowitz...this is attempted satire or humor or something, right?
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