Darth_Lukecash: Snowden is a traitor by revealing this information
DamnYankees: Aside from the horrible satire here, the charges are farking comical. It's only a hop skip and jump from totalitarian 'law' where the very idea of doing something illegal (i.e. against the government) is treason.
tbeatty: But what isn't widely reported is that Sen Feinstein was boo'ed at a speech in front of a Democrat crowd when she said Snowden was a criminal.
Darth_Lukecash: Lionel Mandrake: DamnYankees: Aside from the horrible satire here, the charges are farking comical. It's only a hop skip and jump from totalitarian 'law' where the very idea of doing something illegal (i.e. against the government) is treason.Mr. A: "I think the government is violating the Constitution with increasing regularity and to a frightening extent"Mr B: "Well...that pisses me off...fk the government"Mr. A: "Hey, look, this guy released information proving my claim!"Mr. B: "F*CK THAT GUY! HANG HIM!! F*CKING TRAITOR!!1!"But here's the real issue: what the NSA did was legal and approved by the congress.Snowden is a traitor by revealing this informationNote:no one in congress is surprised by the NSA actions or calling this a scandal. Everyone is saying Snowden being a traitor.
GoSlash27: #2 If he worked for the government and went to the press intending to expose abuse and fraud, how could he not be a "whistleblower"?
Biological Ali: "unequivocally wrong" to "controversial, at best"
Biological Ali: It's the people who have a problem that look to be the odd ones out here; this thing is at best a "controversy", and even that's stretching it a little.
tenpoundsofcheese: sendtodave: Gyrfalcon: Interesting how some people seem to think, however that "I have no problem with X, so nobody should have a problem with X" ought to be the end of the debate.Who, me?No, I am deathly afraid of this debate ending prematurely. This issue needs to be resolved.It was resolved. Our elected representatives are okay with it.Just like Obamacare.You need to get over it.
sendtodave: Again,. it's an "end justifies the means" thing, to my mind.
tenpoundsofcheese: Is there any meaningful debate going on?
Sgygus: The Emperor's New Clothes: "But he has nothing on at all," said a little child at last.
Cubicle Jockey: The three charges against Snowden are:"theft of government property"
uknesvuinng: 2wolves: The charges that are still sealed and considered secret? Those charges?If by "still sealed and considered secret" you mean "were unsealed on Friday afternoon", then yes, those charges.Link
Biological Ali: Satanic_Hamster: Darth_Lukecash: Snowden is a traitor by revealing this informationNo, he's not. He's a *criminal* by revealing this information. Blames of traitor/treason are a bit over done.Pretty much. He's just a common criminal and should be dealt with as such.
Lionel Mandrake: Borowitz...this is attempted satire or humor or something, right?
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