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2013-06-23 08:43:15 PM

baorao: JerseyTim: "There is something called a super moon," Tyson responded. "I don't know who first called it a super moon. I don't know, but if you have a 16 inch pizza, would you call that a super pizza compared with a 15 inch pizza?"

Yes, I would.

in fact the pizza place suggests I'm getting 20% more pizza.


Well then they're scamming you. That's only about 12% more pizza
 
2013-06-23 08:47:29 PM

Lt_Ryan: I call it media selling crap to the average American in order to generate additional watchers and or hits in order to generate additional advertising revenue. In how many thousands of year's of human civilization no one has cared about this but now the media is picking it up, same reason there is more of everything now. There isn't really any more of it, there is just more of it being shoved in your face.


Many cultures followed celestial movements and happenings.  A few still follow lunar calendars for cultural or religious reasons.  Just because someone makes a big deal about it in this century, where we have more information on it and care less about it, doesn't mean no one ever cared about it.

As for his "who cares" attitude, in his own explanation:

Every month one of those phases is the closest. I don't hear people saying like 'super crescent, super half moon

We aren't as culturally fascinated by those phenomenon as we are by the full moon.  Full moons have more significance in human minds than those other phases.  Maybe it's more important because it's already more visible being full, and if it's that much larger it gets our attention.  Same as eclipses, meteor showers.  We only care if we have a good view of the show.  No one cares about a partial lunar eclipse, but a full one gets everyone excited.
 
2013-06-23 08:48:44 PM
FTA: Every month one of those phases is the closest. I don't hear people saying like 'super crescent, super half moon.

We can, if that will make you feel better.
 
2013-06-23 08:49:29 PM

megarian: Primitive Screwhead: I think he should let this one go.
The "Supermoon" hype will kids interested in astronomy.
Even if it's only for that day.

This.


I think the push-back from the astronomy community in general comes from two things:
1) The term "Supermoon" was coined by an astrologer - which is not a real science.  The astronomic term for the event is perigee-syzygy
2) Tyson, Nye and all these other scientists probably get inundated with requests for interviews or appearances with local news, national news, newspapers, etc for this event, even though it happens every year, and really is not a big deal at all.
 
2013-06-23 08:50:57 PM
As I just got home from the beach, which is usually a good spot for shiat like this, because it's fogged in, I'm not getting a kick....

\though seeing the full moon rise from the top of the Stratosphere in Vegas last month was pretty damned cool....
 
2013-06-23 08:51:00 PM
Damn, this is what this guy is resorting to for attention? Yikes
 
2013-06-23 08:51:09 PM

JerseyTim: "There is something called a super moon," Tyson responded. "I don't know who first called it a super moon. I don't know, but if you have a 16 inch pizza, would you call that a super pizza compared with a 15 inch pizza?"

Yes, I would.


No, but I wouldn't call a smaller one a dwarf pizza, either.
 
2013-06-23 08:55:17 PM

skinink: A super moon:
[img.fark.net image 609x480]


I've always wondered, not having seen one - when a Farkette moons you, do you see any snatch?
 
2013-06-23 08:56:18 PM
What DOES Marcellus Wallace LOOK LIKE???!!!!

Does he look like an astrophysicist? No? Then why did you try to discuss science with him?


img.fark.net
 
2013-06-23 09:01:19 PM
That's no supermoon....
 
2013-06-23 09:04:48 PM
Tryfan: Scientists are always getting themselves into trouble with calling things names that make less knowledgeable people think they area more significant than intended. God particles, super moons, etc.

This may make you weep, but I read a comment from someone who was all kinds of excited that scientists were about to find the God particle because it would prove that God exists. Scientists wouldn't be able to say God doesn't exist anymore, because they would have proved that God did exist.

yes, she was serious.
 
2013-06-23 09:05:32 PM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-06-23 09:09:42 PM
While I like NDT, and he is able to bring science to the unwashed masses, I wish he did it more in the vein of Sagan, instead of the kind of AW way he does it.
 
2013-06-23 09:18:43 PM

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: megarian: Primitive Screwhead: I think he should let this one go.
The "Supermoon" hype will kids interested in astronomy.
Even if it's only for that day.

This.

I think the push-back from the astronomy community in general comes from two things:
1) The term "Supermoon" was coined by an astrologer - which is not a real science.  The astronomic term for the event is perigee-syzygy
2) Tyson, Nye and all these other scientists probably get inundated with requests for interviews or appearances with local news, national news, newspapers, etc for this event, even though it happens every year, and really is not a big deal at all.


That actually makes sense.

I'd still sleep with Tyson *shrug*
 
2013-06-23 09:19:50 PM

Pontious Pilates: What's that?


F*ckin' home run chippah
 
2013-06-23 09:19:52 PM

REO-Weedwagon: For last night's moon I ate psilocybin out in the Utah desert. Holy sh*t.
[img.fark.net image 250x375]


THAT's what I was missin', damn.  Lemme tell you.  It was a totally meh experience.
 
2013-06-23 09:29:27 PM

PsiChick: Oh FFS. I'm all for scientific accuracy, but if people like the 'super moon',  go with it already. NASA's defunded, astronomy programs are barely noticed, and you want to biatch the one time people are  interested?


Thanks for typing what I was about to type, future time person

/ this
 
2013-06-23 09:30:17 PM
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-23 09:31:16 PM
Ah, time for the monthly Fark NdT fellatio post.
 
2013-06-23 09:32:42 PM

MemeSlave: skinink: A super moon:
[img.fark.net image 609x480]

I've always wondered, not having seen one - when a Farkette moons you, do you see any snatch?


It kind of looks like when a black cat throws up a hairball in a container of cottage cheese.
 
2013-06-23 09:35:23 PM
He is prob upset he didn't coin supermoon.
/Strawberry supermoon

REO Thread FTW
 
2013-06-23 09:38:45 PM

John Buck 41: Ah, time for the monthly Fark NdT fellatio post.


Take yar biatching to the weekly pizza argument thread.
 
2013-06-23 09:39:18 PM
Yessss, because if you understand how orbits work, they suddenly jump closer and make things embiggened.
 
2013-06-23 09:42:00 PM

Primitive Screwhead: I think he should let this one go.
The "Supermoon" hype will kids interested in astronomy.



But will it kids in grammar?
 
2013-06-23 09:50:06 PM
Did anyone else thing the young Mr. Waternoose in Monster's University kind of looked like NDT?
 
2013-06-23 10:28:48 PM

John Buck 41: Ah, time for the monthly Fark NdT fellatio post.


Yes, but it seems most disagree with him this time. The moon really was Super.
 
2013-06-23 10:29:20 PM

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: megarian: Primitive Screwhead: I think he should let this one go.
The "Supermoon" hype will kids interested in astronomy.
Even if it's only for that day.

This.

I think the push-back from the astronomy community in general comes from two things:
1) The term "Supermoon" was coined by an astrologer - which is not a real science.  The astronomic term for the event is perigee-syzygy
2) Tyson, Nye and all these other scientists probably get inundated with requests for interviews or appearances with local news, national news, newspapers, etc for this event, even though it happens every year, and really is not a big deal at all.


1) Yeah, I can see where that would make 'em cranky.

2) Celebrity Scientist Problems - Seriously, all the more reason to do the interviews at this time of year, set people straight (in a nice manner) and possibly get them interested in real astronomy. Use it the platform you've been given.
 
2013-06-23 10:34:38 PM

machoprogrammer: When I saw the "super moon" stuff, I thought the same thing.


Agreed.
I saw it on the 'Farmer's Almanac' site.
EVERYTHING has to have a marketing angle these days.
This is must another example of the stupidity of it.
 
2013-06-23 10:38:03 PM
You Are All Sheep


While I like NDT, and he is able to bring science to the unwashed masses, I wish he did it more in the vein of Sagan...
You kidding ? A lot of what he says is just reworded Sagan quotes.
 
2013-06-23 10:39:21 PM

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: baorao: JerseyTim: "There is something called a super moon," Tyson responded. "I don't know who first called it a super moon. I don't know, but if you have a 16 inch pizza, would you call that a super pizza compared with a 15 inch pizza?"

Yes, I would.

in fact the pizza place suggests I'm getting 20% more pizza.

Well then they're scamming you. That's only about 12% more pizza


i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-23 10:43:07 PM
apod.nasa.gov
 
2013-06-23 10:58:06 PM
Had a perfect view of the super moon from the window over my computer desk. 

The smoky haze in the air gave it an eerie tint.
 
2013-06-23 11:03:47 PM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-06-23 11:07:15 PM

Primitive Screwhead: I think he should let this one go.
The "Supermoon" hype will kids interested in astronomy.
Even if it's only for that day.


This was my thought -- anything that gets people to stop, take a moment, and look out at nature with wonder and awe is a good thing.  Okay, fine, it's only imperceptibly bigger than usual.  Still, it's pretty awesome that the media is focusing on astronomy.
 
2013-06-23 11:35:11 PM

Duck_of_Doom: Many cultures followed celestial movements and happenings.  A few still follow lunar calendars for cultural or religious reasons.  Just because someone makes a big deal about it in this century, where we have more information on it and care less about it, doesn't mean no one ever cared about it.


My point wasn't about the moon in general, yes people have been interested in that. I was specifically referencing the 'supermoon'. Can you honestly say 10 years ago you ever heard the term supermoon or heard the media devote any time to it or the event with a different name.

Looks like it became popular in 2011 after the Japanese Tsunami.
 
2013-06-23 11:40:09 PM
Neil, no one gives a shiat.
 
2013-06-24 12:01:18 AM
This guy is overrated. Like a white guy that plays basketball well. Or eminem.
 
2013-06-24 12:12:44 AM

Tryfan: Scientists are always getting themselves into trouble with calling things names that make less knowledgeable people think they area more significant than intended. God particles, super moons, etc.


Except that's it's never the actual scientists coming up with those names.  It's crap journalists trying to get more pageviews.
 
2013-06-24 12:38:28 AM
img.fark.net
/H OT
//occurred
 
2013-06-24 12:39:03 AM
I hate how every "news" source such as Yahoo puts a picture of a HUGE moon with the article (every 13 months or whenever a "supermoon" occurs).
 
2013-06-24 12:44:46 AM
Bear in mind, much of the irritation that astronomers like NDT feel is likely fueled by the erroneous "facts" thrown about in the hype.

/"Supermoon looks 5 times bigger than a normal moon!"
 
2013-06-24 01:21:46 AM
I would think a Supermoon should not happen yearly. It's some astrologer's arbitrary definition of a full or new moon within 90% of perigee distance. Why not make it 99%? or 20%? How about we suggest people take a look at the moon while not near full phase with binoculars, and see the moon awesomeness at the terminator line? Or have that trippy little 5 minute astronomy show where the guy walks down the star path and tells us what is cool in the sky at the moment (was/is on PBS) on the Weather Channel instead?

Supermoon is laaaaaame. Unless you are doing astrophotography and comparing the size of the moon at perigee and apogee. Oh, and what about a Supermoon at perihelion? How much brighter is that?
 
2013-06-24 01:53:19 AM

Cerberus: I would think a Supermoon should not happen yearly. It's some astrologer's arbitrary definition of a full or new moon within 90% of perigee distance. Why not make it 99%? or 20%? How about we suggest people take a look at the moon while not near full phase with binoculars, and see the moon awesomeness at the terminator line? Or have that trippy little 5 minute astronomy show where the guy walks down the star path and tells us what is cool in the sky at the moment (was/is on PBS) on the Weather Channel instead?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Horkheimer

Horkheimer had been close to death on several occasions because of his health issues.[1] As a result, he had prepared a grave site next to his parents. He also had a tombstone prepared and wrote his own epitaph, which reads;[3]

"Keep Looking Up" was my life's admonition;
I can do little else in my present position.

 img.fark.net

I miss that guy and his infectious enthusiasm.
 
2013-06-24 02:42:53 AM
Take an aspirin outside, hold it out at arms length. That should perfectly cover the moon. Even a super moon.
 
2013-06-24 03:17:44 AM

bugcrusher: Take an aspirin outside, hold it out at arms length. That should perfectly cover the moon. Even a super moon.


I did that.  The light is still coming into the tent though.  Any other suggestions?
 
2013-06-24 06:08:33 AM

jtown: JerseyTim: "There is something called a super moon," Tyson responded. "I don't know who first called it a super moon. I don't know, but if you have a 16 inch pizza, would you call that a super pizza compared with a 15 inch pizza?"

Yes, I would.

Damn right.  I'll bet that would move a lot of product.  "Home of the Super Pizza!"


But you have to cut it up in 4 pieces, cause i don't know if i'll be able to eat all 8 *breathes heavy*
 
2013-06-24 06:56:57 AM

Mitch Mitchell: bugcrusher: Take an aspirin outside, hold it out at arms length. That should perfectly cover the moon. Even a super moon.

I did that.  The light is still coming into the tent though.  Any other suggestions?


Eat a bottle full of aspirin and wait 48 hours.

/Ask you physician if liver failure is the right death for you
 
2013-06-24 07:50:06 AM
FTFA : "Occasionally, that moment when it is closest coincidences with a full moon."

No, there are only coincidences! ... Ask anyone! Are there big coincidences and small coincidences, or just coincidences?
 
2013-06-24 08:14:57 AM

Breech Birth: FTFA : "Occasionally, that moment when it is closest coincidences with a full moon."

No, there are only coincidences! ... Ask anyone! Are there big coincidences and small coincidences, or just coincidences?


Ah, journalizm*.  Where 5% is the same as 5x, 2 times the speed of sound and 2 times the speed of light are the same and coincidences is close enough to coincides.

/*jizm
 
2013-06-24 08:21:58 AM
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