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(The Blaze)   With the urgent need for the IRS to focus on the Tea Party, you don't honestly think they could catch every case of fraud... like $46 MILLION in refunds to a single Atlanta address   (theblaze.com ) divider line
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2013-06-23 06:29:22 PM  
4 votes:

Via Infinito: Sounds like bullshiat just from reading the headline.
No clicky for The Blaze. Anybody got a different link for the story?


Here's HuffingtonPost.com, which is the closest thing to a "real" news site I could find on this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/23/irs-46-million-refunds-unau th orized-workers-atlanta_n_3486748.html?utm_hp_ref=business

Here's a PDF of what they're breathlessly pearl-clutching about (Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration report on ways to prevent this kind of fraud from happening):

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2012reports/201242081fr.p df
2013-06-23 08:37:06 PM  
3 votes:

jjorsett: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.


Ah.  Glenn Beck is a reliable and unbiased source of news?
*clicks ignore*
2013-06-23 07:46:30 PM  
2 votes:

Shostie: Via Infinito: Sounds like bullshiat just from reading the headline.
No clicky for The Blaze. Anybody got a different link for the story?

Here's HuffingtonPost.com, which is the closest thing to a "real" news site I could find on this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/23/irs-46-million-refunds-unau th orized-workers-atlanta_n_3486748.html?utm_hp_ref=business

Here's a PDF of what they're breathlessly pearl-clutching about (Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration report on ways to prevent this kind of fraud from happening):

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2012reports/201242081fr.p df


TY for those links.

*makes rude gesture in Glenn Beck's general direction*

Fark you, Blaze, no clickee for you.

So basically a program started in 1996 sparked internal complaints of potential fraud and so the Treasury Inspector General looked into the problem, acknowledged there was one, made 9 recommendations to fix said problem 7 of which the IRS have adopted?

Still not quite sure why the right are so up in arms about all this...

unauthorized workers

Ohhh. Riiiight.

Yeah, never mind, Figured it out.
2013-06-23 06:31:38 PM  
2 votes:
FTFA: Washington has apparently been aware of the problem for the better part of a decade.

And we're done here
2013-06-24 12:54:06 AM  
1 vote:

redmid17: Befuddled: vudukungfu: As a data analyst, one of the tricks I use is to open a file and sort it and look for visual patterns.  You would think someone would have noticed this.
I call BS.

You can't do that when you're dealing with millions of records.

Not visually, but I would expect a college sophomore minoring in Information Systems to come up with a SQL query that reveals large discrepancies.


Right Wing Reaction:  THE IRS IS KEEPING A DATABASE OF OUR ADDRESSES! HURRRR DURRRRRRRRR
2013-06-23 10:53:24 PM  
1 vote:

Befuddled: I know what will stop the waste and fraud. Less government regulations and oversight!


Here's what happens with oversight. It's not sexy. If the people doing the oversight are doing their jobs right, they're going to step on powerful people's toes - who will see too it that the oversight office can't (or won't) do its job.

2005: NY Times does an expose on the New York state Medicaid program, and finds, without too much difficulty, fraud all over the place - including one dentist who billed the state and was paid for performing 991 procedures in one day. The articles' estimate of straight-up theft from the program came to a lowball figure of 10%, plus another 10-30% wasted. $4-5 billion a year in fraud. In one state, in one year.

Supposedly, after that debacle there was greater 'oversight'. Except there wasn't.

2010: Poughkeepsie Journal does an expose on the state Medicaid program, showing that the state had been billing Medicaid (and was paid) over $5000 per developmentally disabled patient per day at one state mental health facility, when no other state was billing more than $1200 or so. The total overbilling by New York came to $15 billion dollars over the years. Where'd the extra money go? It sure as shiat didn't go to the developmentally disabled. The ripoff was so blatant that even the Democrats on the House committee that oversees Medicaid had to agree with (chairman) Darrell Issa and call bullshiat on New York.

Supposedly, after that debacle there was greater 'oversight'. Except there wasn't.

The state's Office of Medicaid Inspector General, the ones who are supposed to watch Medicaid for fraud, has been such a politicized clusterfark that now they're being audited by the state comptroller's office.

What stops people from ripping off the government is one thing - a smaller government that has less available to steal in the first place. Thieves go where the money is - and lately the thieves have done quite nicely bouncing back and forth between the private sector and the various tentacles of the federal government. Exhibit A: Jon Corzine.

This phenomenon might be lessened a bit with what I call a "forbidden city" law - take a job as a government regulator, you can't jump to a job in the industry you regulate for X years. Jump from the private sector to government, you can't take a gig where you could influence your former employer, either as a legislator or as a regulator. In the highly unlikely event a regulator or (more likely) a legislator is unemployable outside the public sector, I have no problem giving them an advance on their pension for X years.
2013-06-23 08:29:39 PM  
1 vote:

SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.


I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.
2013-06-23 08:29:26 PM  
1 vote:
No clicky. No $$ for you derpy-town.
2013-06-23 08:03:28 PM  
1 vote:

Peter von Nostrand: FTFA: Washington has apparently been aware of the problem for the better part of a decade.

And we're done here


And we're not, because you didn't read the rest.

That line is totally out of context.  What Washington has apparently known about is that the whole deal about issuing tax ID numbers to illegals to get them into compliance with tax law is a thing that happens.  This case of fraud is NOT something that's been known about for years but since this report mentioned in the article was put out on July 16, 2012.  The article is just written in a way to make it seem like this is an ongoing problem that the government has been aware of for many years and refuses to do something about it, which is not the case here.
2013-06-23 08:00:57 PM  
1 vote:

spongeboob: me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.


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2013-06-23 07:53:10 PM  
1 vote:
One single address?  Was it GE corporate headquarter?

No, wait.  Couldn't have been.  They've have held out for much more than a paltry 46 mil.
2013-06-23 05:54:55 PM  
1 vote:
Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.
 
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