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(The Blaze)   With the urgent need for the IRS to focus on the Tea Party, you don't honestly think they could catch every case of fraud... like $46 MILLION in refunds to a single Atlanta address   (theblaze.com) divider line 89
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2013-06-23 05:54:55 PM
Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.
 
2013-06-23 06:04:50 PM
Sounds like bullshiat just from reading the headline.
No clicky for The Blaze. Anybody got a different link for the story?
 
2013-06-23 06:29:22 PM

Via Infinito: Sounds like bullshiat just from reading the headline.
No clicky for The Blaze. Anybody got a different link for the story?


Here's HuffingtonPost.com, which is the closest thing to a "real" news site I could find on this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/23/irs-46-million-refunds-unau th orized-workers-atlanta_n_3486748.html?utm_hp_ref=business

Here's a PDF of what they're breathlessly pearl-clutching about (Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration report on ways to prevent this kind of fraud from happening):

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2012reports/201242081fr.p df
 
2013-06-23 06:31:38 PM
FTFA: Washington has apparently been aware of the problem for the better part of a decade.

And we're done here
 
2013-06-23 06:51:35 PM

Shostie: Via Infinito: Sounds like bullshiat just from reading the headline.
No clicky for The Blaze. Anybody got a different link for the story?

Here's HuffingtonPost.com, which is the closest thing to a "real" news site I could find on this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/23/irs-46-million-refunds-unau th orized-workers-atlanta_n_3486748.html?utm_hp_ref=business

Here's a PDF of what they're breathlessly pearl-clutching about (Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration report on ways to prevent this kind of fraud from happening):

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2012reports/201242081fr.p df


Hmm. Thanks for that.
 
2013-06-23 06:53:27 PM
Anybody else get this ad
this.content.served.by.adshuffle.com


Really kill blood pressure, me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.
/Could be both
 
2013-06-23 07:40:33 PM
So what Banker lived at that address???????????????

/Derp derp derp herpy derpy doooo. Oh herp derpderpderpderp.
 
2013-06-23 07:46:30 PM

Shostie: Via Infinito: Sounds like bullshiat just from reading the headline.
No clicky for The Blaze. Anybody got a different link for the story?

Here's HuffingtonPost.com, which is the closest thing to a "real" news site I could find on this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/23/irs-46-million-refunds-unau th orized-workers-atlanta_n_3486748.html?utm_hp_ref=business

Here's a PDF of what they're breathlessly pearl-clutching about (Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration report on ways to prevent this kind of fraud from happening):

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2012reports/201242081fr.p df


TY for those links.

*makes rude gesture in Glenn Beck's general direction*

Fark you, Blaze, no clickee for you.

So basically a program started in 1996 sparked internal complaints of potential fraud and so the Treasury Inspector General looked into the problem, acknowledged there was one, made 9 recommendations to fix said problem 7 of which the IRS have adopted?

Still not quite sure why the right are so up in arms about all this...

unauthorized workers

Ohhh. Riiiight.

Yeah, never mind, Figured it out.
 
2013-06-23 07:49:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAvPUE0s1VQ

Let's see here, we can do the math to figure out exactly how big the building was and where it is.

According to the video, one van fits 28 illegal aliens and a van equals roughly 15 x6 (90 sq ft), so therefore the sq ft / illegal alien X 24000 tax returns = 72000 sq ft building, so let's look for a 72,000 sq ft building here and see if we can take a tour of it. Yup. Here it is.

http://curbed.com/archives/2011/09/21/take-a-video-tour-of-the-72000 sq uarefoot-concrete-chateau.php

Apparently they needed the money to finish their new house.
 
2013-06-23 07:51:15 PM

spongeboob: Anybody else get this ad
[this.content.served.by.adshuffle.com image 300x250]


Really kill blood pressure, me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.
/Could be both


But it got science pitchers!  And Doc Washburn tole me Obamacare was givin' me blood pressure, on account of all my yellin about it, so blood pressure's bad and Obamacare's what causes it! I'm gonna click that and buy a case, before Obama buys it all up so's I can't get none, just like he did with my ammo and Twinkies.
 
2013-06-23 07:53:10 PM
One single address?  Was it GE corporate headquarter?

No, wait.  Couldn't have been.  They've have held out for much more than a paltry 46 mil.
 
2013-06-23 07:55:42 PM

quatchi: Still not quite sure why the right are so up in arms about all this...

unauthorized workers

Ohhh. Riiiight.

Yeah, never mind, Figured it out.


Might also have something to do with the 24K people at the same address that nobody seemed to find suspicious.

/ how do you decide who claims "head of household" deduction?
 
2013-06-23 07:56:37 PM

spongeboob: Anybody else get this ad
[this.content.served.by.adshuffle.com image 300x250]


Really kill blood pressure, me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.
/Could be both


I usually get the language, belly fat or energy one.
 
2013-06-23 07:57:19 PM
So they investigated the problem came up with nine recommendations 7 of which they implemented. So what's the problem.

Are they not supposed to investigate fraud or something? Leave true patriots alone and only investigate smelly illegal immigrants?
 
2013-06-23 07:58:25 PM
I'm sure slashing the IRS's budget some more will fix the problem.


Shostie: Here's HuffingtonPost.com, which is the closest thing to a "real" news site I could find on this:


Thanks. Anyone notice the link on the sidebar?

Jihawg Ammo: Pork-laced Bullets Designed To Send Muslims Straight 'To Hell'

Have we had a thread on this one yet?
 
2013-06-23 08:00:57 PM

spongeboob: me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.


img.fark.net
 
2013-06-23 08:02:45 PM

fusillade762: Thanks. Anyone notice the link on the sidebar?

Jihawg Ammo: Pork-laced Bullets Designed To Send Muslims Straight 'To Hell'

Have we had a thread on this one yet?


Yep. We had that one yesterday.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7809855/Not-news-Idaho-company-making-b ul lets-Fark-Pork-coated-bullets&new=1#new
 
2013-06-23 08:03:28 PM

Peter von Nostrand: FTFA: Washington has apparently been aware of the problem for the better part of a decade.

And we're done here


And we're not, because you didn't read the rest.

That line is totally out of context.  What Washington has apparently known about is that the whole deal about issuing tax ID numbers to illegals to get them into compliance with tax law is a thing that happens.  This case of fraud is NOT something that's been known about for years but since this report mentioned in the article was put out on July 16, 2012.  The article is just written in a way to make it seem like this is an ongoing problem that the government has been aware of for many years and refuses to do something about it, which is not the case here.
 
2013-06-23 08:06:03 PM

burning_bridge: Peter von Nostrand: FTFA: Washington has apparently been aware of the problem for the better part of a decade.

And we're done here

And we're not, because you didn't read the rest.

That line is totally out of context.  What Washington has apparently known about is that the whole deal about issuing tax ID numbers to illegals to get them into compliance with tax law is a thing that happens.  This case of fraud is NOT something that's been known about for years but since this report mentioned in the article was put out on July 16, 2012.  The article is just written in a way to make it seem like this is an ongoing problem that the government has been aware of for many years and refuses to do something about it, which is not the case here.


Done
 
2013-06-23 08:07:58 PM
 
2013-06-23 08:12:47 PM
As a data analyst, one of the tricks I use is to open a file and sort it and look for visual patterns.  You would think someone would have noticed this.
I call BS.
 
2013-06-23 08:13:37 PM

SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.


This.  Was hoping they at least sourced a reputable news site, but instead it was "CNS News" -- whatever the fark that is.
 
2013-06-23 08:16:12 PM

spongeboob: Anybody else get this ad

Really kill blood pressure, me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.
/Could be both


There are ads on the internet?  I completely forgot about that.
 
2013-06-23 08:23:26 PM

Altair: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

This.  Was hoping they at least sourced a reputable news site, but instead it was "CNS News" -- whatever the fark that is.


It's the right news. Right now. Duh.

img.fark.net

Based on how they used quotes when they said Biden is "proud" of Obama, my guess is that CNS is frequented by my teabagger coworkers.
 
2013-06-23 08:24:35 PM
images.sodahead.com
 
2013-06-23 08:24:38 PM

vudukungfu: As a data analyst, one of the tricks I use is to open a file and sort it and look for visual patterns.  You would think someone would have noticed this.
I call BS.


You can't do that when you're dealing with millions of records.
 
2013-06-23 08:29:26 PM
No clicky. No $$ for you derpy-town.
 
2013-06-23 08:29:39 PM

SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.


I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.
 
2013-06-23 08:31:44 PM

fusillade762: I'm sure slashing the IRS's budget some more will fix the problem.


Shostie: Here's HuffingtonPost.com, which is the closest thing to a "real" news site I could find on this:

Thanks. Anyone notice the link on the sidebar?

Jihawg Ammo: Pork-laced Bullets Designed To Send Muslims Straight 'To Hell'

Have we had a thread on this one yet?


Oh FFS.....  And the comments... oh wow the comments.... >:(
 
2013-06-23 08:32:06 PM

spongeboob: Anybody else get this ad
[this.content.served.by.adshuffle.com image 300x250]


Really kill blood pressure, me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.
/Could be both


No.
It must be based on your cookies.
These ads are far more targeted than just the website you go to.

I got an ad for a European cruise.
 
2013-06-23 08:37:06 PM

jjorsett: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.


Ah.  Glenn Beck is a reliable and unbiased source of news?
*clicks ignore*
 
2013-06-23 08:38:28 PM

spongeboob: Anybody else get this ad



Really kill blood pressure, me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.
/Could be both


Or Google has a low opinion of you.
 
2013-06-23 08:50:09 PM

jjorsett: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.


If the only two options are the New York Times and some deranged lunatic who wears tinfoil because it keeps the government out of his brainwaves AND thinks it fashionable, I'll go with the New York Times every time. But since in reality there are more options than the New York Times and the people who work over at The Blaze, I don't think your assumptions are warranted in the slightest.
 
2013-06-23 08:51:06 PM

Notabunny: Altair: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

This.  Was hoping they at least sourced a reputable news site, but instead it was "CNS News" -- whatever the fark that is.

It's the right news. Right now. Duh.

[img.fark.net image 440x84]

Based on how they used quotes when they said Biden is "proud" of Obama, my guess is that CNS is frequented by my teabagger coworkers.


You missed this beauty on the CNS News website:

CNSNews.com is not funded by the government like NPR. CNSNews.com is not funded by the government like PBS. CNSNews.com relies on individuals like you to help us report the news the liberal media distort and ignore. Please make a tax-deductible gift to CNSNews.com today. Your continued support will ensure that CNSNews.com is here reporting THE TRUTH, for a long time to come. It's fast, easy and secure.

As well as this:

img.fark.net

/Why are we taking this website seriously?
 
2013-06-23 08:53:45 PM

jjorsett: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.


Has CNS News been accurate about anything outside of the date in their articles?
 
2013-06-23 09:00:12 PM

Mrtraveler01: jjorsett: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.

Has CNS News been accurate about anything outside of the date in their articles?


Yes.
But you know that already.
 
2013-06-23 09:20:35 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Mrtraveler01: jjorsett: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.

Has CNS News been accurate about anything outside of the date in their articles?

Yes.
But you know that already.


Such as?
 
2013-06-23 09:25:19 PM
[conservative think]
I know what will stop the waste and fraud. Less government regulations and oversight! Because the people doing this will stop once the government completely stops trying to catch them.
[/conservative think]
 
2013-06-23 09:36:50 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: These ads are far more targeted than just the website you go to.

I got an ad for a European cruise.


Commie
 
2013-06-23 09:39:59 PM

djkutch: tenpoundsofcheese: These ads are far more targeted than just the website you go to.

I got an ad for a European cruise.

Commie


They ain't getting me.  Going to cruise Australia this year.
 
2013-06-23 10:08:52 PM

Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: Mrtraveler01: jjorsett: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.

Has CNS News been accurate about anything outside of the date in their articles?

Yes.
But you know that already.

Such as?


They MIGHT have the pagination correct, ya know.
 
2013-06-23 10:20:11 PM
So many pretty ads.

So someone at the Blaze was inspired by Snowden and leaked that the Blaze's Atlanta office had gotten $42M from the IRS, and the Blaze printed a denial that went bad, since they didn't check their own mail drop.
 
2013-06-23 10:31:43 PM

Shostie: Here's a PDF of what they're breathlessly pearl-clutching about


When tea partiers protest government spending, this is most often the crap they want to see gone.  Nobody wants private roads and militias.  They just want people to work honestly, pay taxes and not be able to file $46M in tax returns from a single address

BitwiseShift: So someone at the Blaze was inspired by Snowden and leaked that the Blaze's Atlanta office had gotten $42M from the IRS,


Or, you know, they published a report that is public record.

SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.


you do know that their source is the actual treasury audit report right?  The blaze could post a video, speech, or facsimile of an actual document and you mouth-breathers would say, "Hurr, Durrr, Blaze. Didn't happen"

gottagopee: Ah.  Glenn Beck is a reliable and unbiased source of news?


So you're charging that they fabricated this report?
 
2013-06-23 10:35:29 PM
So we should ignore all the groups fraudlently filing as social advocacy groups so we can focus on other fraudsters... fark that, throw em all in jail.
 
2013-06-23 10:53:24 PM

Befuddled: I know what will stop the waste and fraud. Less government regulations and oversight!


Here's what happens with oversight. It's not sexy. If the people doing the oversight are doing their jobs right, they're going to step on powerful people's toes - who will see too it that the oversight office can't (or won't) do its job.

2005: NY Times does an expose on the New York state Medicaid program, and finds, without too much difficulty, fraud all over the place - including one dentist who billed the state and was paid for performing 991 procedures in one day. The articles' estimate of straight-up theft from the program came to a lowball figure of 10%, plus another 10-30% wasted. $4-5 billion a year in fraud. In one state, in one year.

Supposedly, after that debacle there was greater 'oversight'. Except there wasn't.

2010: Poughkeepsie Journal does an expose on the state Medicaid program, showing that the state had been billing Medicaid (and was paid) over $5000 per developmentally disabled patient per day at one state mental health facility, when no other state was billing more than $1200 or so. The total overbilling by New York came to $15 billion dollars over the years. Where'd the extra money go? It sure as shiat didn't go to the developmentally disabled. The ripoff was so blatant that even the Democrats on the House committee that oversees Medicaid had to agree with (chairman) Darrell Issa and call bullshiat on New York.

Supposedly, after that debacle there was greater 'oversight'. Except there wasn't.

The state's Office of Medicaid Inspector General, the ones who are supposed to watch Medicaid for fraud, has been such a politicized clusterfark that now they're being audited by the state comptroller's office.

What stops people from ripping off the government is one thing - a smaller government that has less available to steal in the first place. Thieves go where the money is - and lately the thieves have done quite nicely bouncing back and forth between the private sector and the various tentacles of the federal government. Exhibit A: Jon Corzine.

This phenomenon might be lessened a bit with what I call a "forbidden city" law - take a job as a government regulator, you can't jump to a job in the industry you regulate for X years. Jump from the private sector to government, you can't take a gig where you could influence your former employer, either as a legislator or as a regulator. In the highly unlikely event a regulator or (more likely) a legislator is unemployable outside the public sector, I have no problem giving them an advance on their pension for X years.
 
2013-06-23 10:59:14 PM

o5iiawah: you do know that their source is the actual treasury audit report right?  The blaze could post a video, speech, or facsimile of an actual document and you mouth-breathers would say, "Hurr, Durrr, Blaze. Didn't happen"


Then maybe they should post the source and we'll see what people say. Until I've got something other than "crazed idiot's website said so", this didn't happen.
 
2013-06-23 11:04:44 PM

thurstonxhowell: o5iiawah: you do know that their source is the actual treasury audit report right?  The blaze could post a video, speech, or facsimile of an actual document and you mouth-breathers would say, "Hurr, Durrr, Blaze. Didn't happen"

Then maybe they should post the source and we'll see what people say. Until I've got something other than "crazed idiot's website said so", this didn't happen.


They did post the source.  it is linked within the article that people refuse to click because HURRR DURRRRR

Good God, are people this stupid?
 
2013-06-23 11:25:51 PM
Would I be way off base that the report is being misinterpreted?
 
2013-06-23 11:30:25 PM
The IRS was afraid of making a scene:  47,000 Democratic Voters are registered at the same house.
 
2013-06-23 11:31:32 PM

theknuckler_33: Would I be way off base that the report is being misinterpreted?


Well, the story of the $46 million in refunds going to the same address is true; it's one of the examples of fraud listed in the report.

Where things go derpy is that The Blaze is trying to make it sound like the IRS is too busy oppressing Tea Party Patriots to stop sending fake refunds to blah people, or that they don't care.  Well, obviously, they care, since they reported this themselves.  And even in his craziest moments, even Issa wouldn't say that the Tea Party stuff involved more than a handful of IRS employees.  So The Blaze uses this real story for some pretty ugly race baiting.
 
2013-06-23 11:32:39 PM

Befuddled: vudukungfu: As a data analyst, one of the tricks I use is to open a file and sort it and look for visual patterns.  You would think someone would have noticed this.
I call BS.

You can't do that when you're dealing with millions of records.


Not visually, but I would expect a college sophomore minoring in Information Systems to come up with a SQL query that reveals large discrepancies.
 
2013-06-23 11:36:39 PM

o5iiawah: thurstonxhowell: o5iiawah: you do know that their source is the actual treasury audit report right?  The blaze could post a video, speech, or facsimile of an actual document and you mouth-breathers would say, "Hurr, Durrr, Blaze. Didn't happen"

Then maybe they should post the source and we'll see what people say. Until I've got something other than "crazed idiot's website said so", this didn't happen.

They did post the source.  it is linked within the article that people refuse to click because HURRR DURRRRR

Good God, are people this stupid?


Yes, they are.
At least you didn't get the other stupid reply of "but...but...but...BUSH!"  or "Halliburtoooonnnn"
 
2013-06-23 11:38:24 PM

SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.


Fark is like the Enquirer:  more often early than wrong.
 
2013-06-23 11:40:04 PM
jake_lex: theknuckler_33: Would I be way off base that the report is being misinterpreted?

Well, the story of the $46 million in refunds going to the same address is true; it's one of the examples of fraud listed in the report.

Where things go derpy is that (wait while I make something up since I am a partisan hack) ...uhhh....uhhhh....The Blaze is trying to make it sound like the IRS is too busy oppressing Tea Party Patriots to stop sending fake refunds to blah people, or that they don't care.

FTFY.

WTF in the article does it say anything about the Tea Party Patriots?
You are a farking liar.
 
2013-06-23 11:46:21 PM

o5iiawah: So you're charging that they fabricated this report?


They don't have to.  They are liberals; all they have to do is simply declare that the alleged behavior never happened and that means it never happened.  You see ... if they don't click on the link, in the liberal circle jerkosphere they are granted full plausible deniability.
 
2013-06-23 11:46:59 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: jake_lex: theknuckler_33: Would I be way off base that the report is being misinterpreted?

Well, the story of the $46 million in refunds going to the same address is true; it's one of the examples of fraud listed in the report.

Where things go derpy is that (wait while I make something up since I am a partisan hack) ...uhhh....uhhhh....The Blaze is trying to make it sound like the IRS is too busy oppressing Tea Party Patriots to stop sending fake refunds to blah people, or that they don't care.

FTFY.

WTF in the article does it say anything about the Tea Party Patriots?
You are a farking liar.


You know there's only one reason a derp site like The Blaze runs this story.  And so I give you the very Weeners:

I am so tired of supporting the waste and abuse by this giant out of control federal government. Whether its Obama's lavish vacations, Obama care pay offs to unions, bureaucrats, and Obama contributors or this out of control IRS hand out of tax payer money borrowed from China. Perhaps the IRS was too busy punishing conservatives to notice this massive fraud.

The readers definitely heard the dog whistles.
 
2013-06-24 12:41:46 AM

With the urgent need for the IRS to focus on the Tea Party,


The Tea Party owes you nothing, Subby. Stop being such a lackey.
 
2013-06-24 12:54:06 AM

redmid17: Befuddled: vudukungfu: As a data analyst, one of the tricks I use is to open a file and sort it and look for visual patterns.  You would think someone would have noticed this.
I call BS.

You can't do that when you're dealing with millions of records.

Not visually, but I would expect a college sophomore minoring in Information Systems to come up with a SQL query that reveals large discrepancies.


Right Wing Reaction:  THE IRS IS KEEPING A DATABASE OF OUR ADDRESSES! HURRRR DURRRRRRRRR
 
2013-06-24 01:20:51 AM

SunsetLament: o5iiawah: So you're charging that they fabricated this report?

They don't have to.  They are liberals; all they have to do is simply declare that the alleged behavior never happened and that means it never happened.  You see ... if they don't click on the link, in the liberal circle jerkosphere they are granted full plausible deniability.


Kind of like how Conservatives ignore every shred of reality.
 
2013-06-24 01:25:59 AM

jake_lex: tenpoundsofcheese: jake_lex: theknuckler_33: Would I be way off base that the report is being misinterpreted?

Well, the story of the $46 million in refunds going to the same address is true; it's one of the examples of fraud listed in the report.

Where things go derpy is that (wait while I make something up since I am a partisan hack) ...uhhh....uhhhh....The Blaze is trying to make it sound like the IRS is too busy oppressing Tea Party Patriots to stop sending fake refunds to blah people, or that they don't care.

FTFY.

WTF in the article does it say anything about the Tea Party Patriots?
You are a farking liar.

You know there's only one reason a derp site like The Blaze runs this story.  And so I give you the very Weeners:

I am so tired of supporting the waste and abuse by this giant out of control federal government. Whether its Obama's lavish vacations, Obama care pay offs to unions, bureaucrats, and Obama contributors or this out of control IRS hand out of tax payer money borrowed from China. Perhaps the IRS was too busy punishing conservatives to notice this massive fraud.

The readers definitely heard the dog whistles.


Yeah, the massive fraud by the conservative groups posing as social welfare organizations so they can not pay taxes and funnel dark money from their illegal donors to fund political campaigns.

501(c)(4) groups my ass...
 
2013-06-24 01:37:12 AM

Altair: redmid17: Befuddled: vudukungfu: As a data analyst, one of the tricks I use is to open a file and sort it and look for visual patterns.  You would think someone would have noticed this.
I call BS.

You can't do that when you're dealing with millions of records.

Not visually, but I would expect a college sophomore minoring in Information Systems to come up with a SQL query that reveals large discrepancies.

Right Wing Reaction:  THE IRS IS KEEPING A DATABASE OF OUR ADDRESSES! HURRRR DURRRRRRRRR


Actually I don't think they would flip out. How else is the IRS supposed to send refund checks out if they don't have an address.
 
2013-06-24 02:02:55 AM
I wonder what is at the address. What would be funny is if it was one of those rapid refund corp sites where they process the tax refund loans they gice out to people.
 
2013-06-24 03:11:07 AM
 
2013-06-24 07:24:54 AM

o5iiawah: thurstonxhowell: o5iiawah: you do know that their source is the actual treasury audit report right?  The blaze could post a video, speech, or facsimile of an actual document and you mouth-breathers would say, "Hurr, Durrr, Blaze. Didn't happen"

Then maybe they should post the source and we'll see what people say. Until I've got something other than "crazed idiot's website said so", this didn't happen.

They did post the source.  it is linked within the article that people refuse to click because HURRR DURRRRR

Good God, are people this stupid?


I find it hilarious that people who don't trust The Blaze, CNS news, or townhall.com are the stupid ones in your opinion.

Whatever is going on, I know that none of those sites can reliably report or analyze news. Yeah, I'm going to wait until one of the thousands of real news websites can corroborate for the idiots at The Blaze.
 
2013-06-24 07:43:04 AM
2 different offices doing 2 different things.
The tea party investigations by the IRS were justified and appropriate.  The same as if they were to apply to be a religious organization and were investigated for it.

The only reason why democrats spoke out against it is because they know how stupid the tea partiers are and were avoiding conflict with idiots.
 
2013-06-24 08:01:27 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: o5iiawah: thurstonxhowell: o5iiawah: you do know that their source is the actual treasury audit report right?  The blaze could post a video, speech, or facsimile of an actual document and you mouth-breathers would say, "Hurr, Durrr, Blaze. Didn't happen"

Then maybe they should post the source and we'll see what people say. Until I've got something other than "crazed idiot's website said so", this didn't happen.

They did post the source.  it is linked within the article that people refuse to click because HURRR DURRRRR

Good God, are people this stupid?

Yes, they are.
At least you didn't get the other stupid reply of "but...but...but...BUSH!"  or "Halliburtoooonnnn"


Lol... this coming from the guy who still trots out "57 states" once in a while.
 
2013-06-24 08:05:39 AM
I saw this on the AJC yesterday.
Those of you that can't believe the government is this incompetent, believe it.
 
2013-06-24 08:10:17 AM

SphericalTime: I find it hilarious that people who don't trust The Blaze, CNS news, or townhall.com are the stupid ones in your opinion.

Whatever is going on, I know that none of those sites can reliably report or analyze news. Yeah, I'm going to wait until one of the thousands of real news websites can corroborate for the idiots at The Blaze


would it make you feel better if HuffPo, the NY Times or the Miami Herald linked to the same treasury.gov report that the blaze linked to?

Zeppelininthesky: Kind of like how Conservatives ignore every shred of reality.


The only shred of reality being discussed in this thread is an official Treasury auditor compiling a fraud report (and making it public obviously), The blaze posting a direct link to it  and a bunch of mouth-breathing liberals saying that because it was posted on a partisan newspaper, that it didn't actually happen.

These are the same people who form their opinions on capitalism and markets based on what they read from the opinion pages of Mother Jones.
 
2013-06-24 08:14:16 AM

Mrtraveler01: You missed this beauty on the CNS News website:

CNSNews.com is not funded by the government like NPR. CNSNews.com is not funded by the government like PBS. CNSNews.com relies on individuals like you to help us report the news the liberal media distort and ignore. Please make a tax-deductible gift to CNSNews.com today. Your continued support will ensure that CNSNews.com is here reporting THE TRUTH, for a long time to come. It's fast, easy and secure.


They forgot a little something - the little ™ symbol after THE TRUTH.

 /because everything else, of course, is Libfacts™
 
2013-06-24 08:17:18 AM

ManRay: I saw this on the AJC yesterday.
Those of you that can't believe the government is this incompetent, believe it.


Then let's have a link, hm?

There are links to the Treasury Department's findings within the CNS piece, and if you shan't dirty your hands giving them a click, the same links are over at Huffington.
 
2013-06-24 08:19:07 AM

ManRay: I saw this on the AJC yesterday.
Those of you that can't believe the government is this incompetent, believe it.


img.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-24 08:21:00 AM

gunsmack: quatchi: Still not quite sure why the right are so up in arms about all this...

unauthorized workers

Ohhh. Riiiight.

Yeah, never mind, Figured it out.

Might also have something to do with the 24K people at the same address that nobody seemed to find suspicious.

/ how do you decide who claims "head of household" deduction?


Just read the form that was signed under penalty of perjury.

I'm wondering who recruited 24K people to use the same address and taught them how to fill out the forms.  That crook is no slouch. And apparently, similar numbers have been using single addresses all over the country.  Is this a tax prep franchise opportunity or something?
 
2013-06-24 08:21:13 AM

o5iiawah: The only shred of reality being discussed in this thread is an official Treasury auditor compiling a fraud report (and making it public obviously), The blaze posting a direct link to it and a bunch of mouth-breathing liberals saying that because it was posted on a partisan newspaper, that it didn't actually happen.


The report it real and it's legitimate.

However the only thing the Blaze did was twist the story to think that the IRS was ignoring it to go after Conservatives/Tea Party groups.

If you think that wasn't the intent of publishing this story, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you.
 
2013-06-24 08:28:07 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: o5iiawah: thurstonxhowell: o5iiawah: you do know that their source is the actual treasury audit report right?  The blaze could post a video, speech, or facsimile of an actual document and you mouth-breathers would say, "Hurr, Durrr, Blaze. Didn't happen"

Then maybe they should post the source and we'll see what people say. Until I've got something other than "crazed idiot's website said so", this didn't happen.

They did post the source.  it is linked within the article that people refuse to click because HURRR DURRRRR

Good God, are people this stupid?

Yes, they are.
At least you didn't get the other stupid reply of "but...but...but...BUSH!"  or "Halliburtoooonnnn"


I despise people who say, "I won't click on X because it would give X a fraction of a penny and I hate X, so one of you go find me a 'good' source and post it here."  Fark you, douchebags. Get your goddam cat to do your research.
 
2013-06-24 08:31:36 AM

SphericalTime: o5iiawah: thurstonxhowell: o5iiawah: you do know that their source is the actual treasury audit report right?  The blaze could post a video, speech, or facsimile of an actual document and you mouth-breathers would say, "Hurr, Durrr, Blaze. Didn't happen"

Then maybe they should post the source and we'll see what people say. Until I've got something other than "crazed idiot's website said so", this didn't happen.

They did post the source.  it is linked within the article that people refuse to click because HURRR DURRRRR

Good God, are people this stupid?

I find it hilarious that people who don't trust The Blaze, CNS news, or townhall.com are the stupid ones in your opinion.

Whatever is going on, I know that none of those sites can reliably report or analyze news. Yeah, I'm going to wait until one of the thousands of real news websites can corroborate for the idiots at The Blaze.


Or if you weren't such a lazy fark you could go look for a source that meets your political requirements.:P
 
2013-06-24 08:31:47 AM

BarkingUnicorn: tenpoundsofcheese: o5iiawah: thurstonxhowell: o5iiawah: you do know that their source is the actual treasury audit report right?  The blaze could post a video, speech, or facsimile of an actual document and you mouth-breathers would say, "Hurr, Durrr, Blaze. Didn't happen"

Then maybe they should post the source and we'll see what people say. Until I've got something other than "crazed idiot's website said so", this didn't happen.

They did post the source.  it is linked within the article that people refuse to click because HURRR DURRRRR

Good God, are people this stupid?

Yes, they are.
At least you didn't get the other stupid reply of "but...but...but...BUSH!"  or "Halliburtoooonnnn"

I despise people who say, "I won't click on X because it would give X a fraction of a penny and I hate X, so one of you go find me a 'good' source and post it here."  Fark you, douchebags. Get your goddam cat to do your research.


I usually don't click links because of that, I don't click links that have been known to be consistently wrong and unreliable.

If you watch was constantly wrong all the time, would you rely on it?

That said, I was able to find the report.
 
2013-06-24 08:37:25 AM

Gulper Eel: ManRay: I saw this on the AJC yesterday.
Those of you that can't believe the government is this incompetent, believe it.

Then let's have a link, hm?

There are links to the Treasury Department's findings within the CNS piece, and if you shan't dirty your hands giving them a click, the same links are over at Huffington.


I checked back though my history, it was a Reddit link to the same source story. My bad. It was late and was reading a bunch of things about the same time.

But my statement about how incompetent the government can be still stands.

/need to find the address for this building where the checks are delivered and befriend the mailman.
 
2013-06-24 08:42:12 AM

ManRay: Gulper Eel: ManRay: I saw this on the AJC yesterday.
Those of you that can't believe the government is this incompetent, believe it.

Then let's have a link, hm?

There are links to the Treasury Department's findings within the CNS piece, and if you shan't dirty your hands giving them a click, the same links are over at Huffington.

I checked back though my history, it was a Reddit link to the same source story. My bad. It was late and was reading a bunch of things about the same time.

But my statement about how incompetent the government can be still stands.

/need to find the address for this building where the checks are delivered and befriend the mailman.


Eh, it's probably too late to do that now. The Treasury Department is the one that discovered the situation and I imagine the IRS is probably going to put an end to it.
 
2013-06-24 08:44:18 AM

o5iiawah: thurstonxhowell: o5iiawah: you do know that their source is the actual treasury audit report right?  The blaze could post a video, speech, or facsimile of an actual document and you mouth-breathers would say, "Hurr, Durrr, Blaze. Didn't happen"

Then maybe they should post the source and we'll see what people say. Until I've got something other than "crazed idiot's website said so", this didn't happen.

They did post the source.  it is linked within the article that people refuse to click because HURRR DURRRRR

Good God, are people this stupid?


I have no dog in this fight yet, as I've yet to do the required reading. However, let me address the overall point of this exchange:

Beck is notorious for publishing/barking sh*t that simply isn't true in a ruse to raise his brand value on the backs of idiots. Therefore, when something is reported at his site most people, who long ago gave up on the idea of him providing a serious story or discussion, will naturally default to their bullsh*t detectors even if it's not the case. He could report that the sky is blue this morning and I'd still be suspicious. That he and his employees may actually have a legit source this time around is meaningless after you've spent years deploying 'news' that's clearly designed to inflame emotions rather than to inform.

TL;DR - the boy who cried wolf.
 
2013-06-24 08:51:39 AM

Mrtraveler01: I despise people who say, "I won't click on X because it would give X a fraction of a penny and I hate X, so one of you go find me a 'good' source and post it here."  Fark you, douchebags. Get your goddam cat to do your research.

I usually don't click links because of that, I don't click links that have been known to be consistently wrong and unreliable.

If you watch was constantly wrong all the time, would you rely on it?

That said, I was able to find the report.


Good for you.  I was addressing douchebags who expect others to be their butlers for free.  To quote Hobson, "Perhaps you would like me to wash your dick for you as well, you little shiat."
 
2013-06-24 08:54:11 AM
I read a story once about a lady on welfare who drove a Cadillac then I heard that  people one welfare have refrigerators and I about lost my mind
 
2013-06-24 09:28:33 AM
The ones who blame the source and ignore the actual story:
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-24 09:28:39 AM

jake_lex: theknuckler_33: Would I be way off base that the report is being misinterpreted?

Well, the story of the $46 million in refunds going to the same address is true; it's one of the examples of fraud listed in the report.

Where things go derpy is that The Blaze is trying to make it sound like the IRS is too busy oppressing Tea Party Patriots to stop sending fake refunds to blah people, or that they don't care.  Well, obviously, they care, since they reported this themselves.  And even in his craziest moments, even Issa wouldn't say that the Tea Party stuff involved more than a handful of IRS employees.  So The Blaze uses this real story for some pretty ugly race baiting.


Hmm... read article twice and not once did it mention Tea Party
 
2013-06-24 10:02:18 AM
Herpa, derpa doo
I'm obviously better than you....
 
2013-06-24 11:39:53 AM
CNSNews.com is not funded by the government like NPR.
CNSNews.com is not funded by the government like PBS.


! whoa
 
2013-06-24 04:41:45 PM

dickfreckle: Beck is notorious for publishing/barking sh*t that simply isn't true in a ruse to raise his brand value on the backs of idiots. Therefore, when something is reported at his site most people, who long ago gave up on the idea of him providing a serious story or discussion, will naturally default to their bullsh*t detectors even if it's not the case. He could report that the sky is blue this morning and I'd still be suspicious. That he and his employees may actually have a legit source this time around is meaningless after you've spent years deploying 'news' that's clearly designed to inflame emotions rather than to inform


People said the same thing about the national enquirer until they scooped the entirety of the news media and broke the John Edwards mistress story.  This isn't to say that the enquirer is now some bastion of hard-hitting journalism but from time to time a smaller news outlet will break a huge story with the usual detractors saying that they are X,Y,Z and thus not qualified to report the news.
 
2013-06-24 10:28:44 PM

o5iiawah: dickfreckle: Beck is notorious for publishing/barking sh*t that simply isn't true in a ruse to raise his brand value on the backs of idiots. Therefore, when something is reported at his site most people, who long ago gave up on the idea of him providing a serious story or discussion, will naturally default to their bullsh*t detectors even if it's not the case. He could report that the sky is blue this morning and I'd still be suspicious. That he and his employees may actually have a legit source this time around is meaningless after you've spent years deploying 'news' that's clearly designed to inflame emotions rather than to inform

People said the same thing about the national enquirer until they scooped the entirety of the news media and broke the John Edwards mistress story.  This isn't to say that the enquirer is now some bastion of hard-hitting journalism but from time to time a smaller news outlet will break a huge story with the usual detractors saying that they are X,Y,Z and thus not qualified to report the news.


TFA aside, The National Enquirer is, what, 1 for never?

Groups deserving scrutiny that may not deserve non-profit status: Those with "Tea" or "Party in their name.

Can we get a list of your brethren that have been denied tax exempt status?
 
2013-06-24 10:42:30 PM

djkutch: TFA aside, The National Enquirer is, what, 1 for never?


The Enquirer will nail one once in a while. Mostly it's celebrity stuff, like tracking down the guy who killed Bill Cosby's son. Besides the Edwards scoop, they had the Jesse Jackson love child story, the Bill Clinton/Gennifer Flowers story, the Dick Morris toesucking thing. Also, they nailed the Gary Hart/Donna Rice story...and the Limbaugh/Oxycontin story.
 
2013-06-24 11:42:11 PM

djkutch: Can we get a list of your brethren that have been denied tax exempt status?


Why are you asking this?  Denials/Approval of tax exempt status has nothing to do with the IRS targeting scandal.
 
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