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(The Blaze)   With the urgent need for the IRS to focus on the Tea Party, you don't honestly think they could catch every case of fraud... like $46 MILLION in refunds to a single Atlanta address   (theblaze.com) divider line 89
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2013-06-23 05:54:55 PM
Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.
 
2013-06-23 06:04:50 PM
Sounds like bullshiat just from reading the headline.
No clicky for The Blaze. Anybody got a different link for the story?
 
2013-06-23 06:29:22 PM

Via Infinito: Sounds like bullshiat just from reading the headline.
No clicky for The Blaze. Anybody got a different link for the story?


Here's HuffingtonPost.com, which is the closest thing to a "real" news site I could find on this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/23/irs-46-million-refunds-unau th orized-workers-atlanta_n_3486748.html?utm_hp_ref=business

Here's a PDF of what they're breathlessly pearl-clutching about (Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration report on ways to prevent this kind of fraud from happening):

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2012reports/201242081fr.p df
 
2013-06-23 06:31:38 PM
FTFA: Washington has apparently been aware of the problem for the better part of a decade.

And we're done here
 
2013-06-23 06:51:35 PM

Shostie: Via Infinito: Sounds like bullshiat just from reading the headline.
No clicky for The Blaze. Anybody got a different link for the story?

Here's HuffingtonPost.com, which is the closest thing to a "real" news site I could find on this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/23/irs-46-million-refunds-unau th orized-workers-atlanta_n_3486748.html?utm_hp_ref=business

Here's a PDF of what they're breathlessly pearl-clutching about (Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration report on ways to prevent this kind of fraud from happening):

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2012reports/201242081fr.p df


Hmm. Thanks for that.
 
2013-06-23 06:53:27 PM
Anybody else get this ad
this.content.served.by.adshuffle.com


Really kill blood pressure, me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.
/Could be both
 
2013-06-23 07:40:33 PM
So what Banker lived at that address???????????????

/Derp derp derp herpy derpy doooo. Oh herp derpderpderpderp.
 
2013-06-23 07:46:30 PM

Shostie: Via Infinito: Sounds like bullshiat just from reading the headline.
No clicky for The Blaze. Anybody got a different link for the story?

Here's HuffingtonPost.com, which is the closest thing to a "real" news site I could find on this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/23/irs-46-million-refunds-unau th orized-workers-atlanta_n_3486748.html?utm_hp_ref=business

Here's a PDF of what they're breathlessly pearl-clutching about (Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration report on ways to prevent this kind of fraud from happening):

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/auditreports/2012reports/201242081fr.p df


TY for those links.

*makes rude gesture in Glenn Beck's general direction*

Fark you, Blaze, no clickee for you.

So basically a program started in 1996 sparked internal complaints of potential fraud and so the Treasury Inspector General looked into the problem, acknowledged there was one, made 9 recommendations to fix said problem 7 of which the IRS have adopted?

Still not quite sure why the right are so up in arms about all this...

unauthorized workers

Ohhh. Riiiight.

Yeah, never mind, Figured it out.
 
2013-06-23 07:49:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAvPUE0s1VQ

Let's see here, we can do the math to figure out exactly how big the building was and where it is.

According to the video, one van fits 28 illegal aliens and a van equals roughly 15 x6 (90 sq ft), so therefore the sq ft / illegal alien X 24000 tax returns = 72000 sq ft building, so let's look for a 72,000 sq ft building here and see if we can take a tour of it. Yup. Here it is.

http://curbed.com/archives/2011/09/21/take-a-video-tour-of-the-72000 sq uarefoot-concrete-chateau.php

Apparently they needed the money to finish their new house.
 
2013-06-23 07:51:15 PM

spongeboob: Anybody else get this ad
[this.content.served.by.adshuffle.com image 300x250]


Really kill blood pressure, me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.
/Could be both


But it got science pitchers!  And Doc Washburn tole me Obamacare was givin' me blood pressure, on account of all my yellin about it, so blood pressure's bad and Obamacare's what causes it! I'm gonna click that and buy a case, before Obama buys it all up so's I can't get none, just like he did with my ammo and Twinkies.
 
2013-06-23 07:53:10 PM
One single address?  Was it GE corporate headquarter?

No, wait.  Couldn't have been.  They've have held out for much more than a paltry 46 mil.
 
2013-06-23 07:55:42 PM

quatchi: Still not quite sure why the right are so up in arms about all this...

unauthorized workers

Ohhh. Riiiight.

Yeah, never mind, Figured it out.


Might also have something to do with the 24K people at the same address that nobody seemed to find suspicious.

/ how do you decide who claims "head of household" deduction?
 
2013-06-23 07:56:37 PM

spongeboob: Anybody else get this ad
[this.content.served.by.adshuffle.com image 300x250]


Really kill blood pressure, me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.
/Could be both


I usually get the language, belly fat or energy one.
 
2013-06-23 07:57:19 PM
So they investigated the problem came up with nine recommendations 7 of which they implemented. So what's the problem.

Are they not supposed to investigate fraud or something? Leave true patriots alone and only investigate smelly illegal immigrants?
 
2013-06-23 07:58:25 PM
I'm sure slashing the IRS's budget some more will fix the problem.


Shostie: Here's HuffingtonPost.com, which is the closest thing to a "real" news site I could find on this:


Thanks. Anyone notice the link on the sidebar?

Jihawg Ammo: Pork-laced Bullets Designed To Send Muslims Straight 'To Hell'

Have we had a thread on this one yet?
 
2013-06-23 08:00:57 PM

spongeboob: me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.


img.fark.net
 
2013-06-23 08:02:45 PM

fusillade762: Thanks. Anyone notice the link on the sidebar?

Jihawg Ammo: Pork-laced Bullets Designed To Send Muslims Straight 'To Hell'

Have we had a thread on this one yet?


Yep. We had that one yesterday.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7809855/Not-news-Idaho-company-making-b ul lets-Fark-Pork-coated-bullets&new=1#new
 
2013-06-23 08:03:28 PM

Peter von Nostrand: FTFA: Washington has apparently been aware of the problem for the better part of a decade.

And we're done here


And we're not, because you didn't read the rest.

That line is totally out of context.  What Washington has apparently known about is that the whole deal about issuing tax ID numbers to illegals to get them into compliance with tax law is a thing that happens.  This case of fraud is NOT something that's been known about for years but since this report mentioned in the article was put out on July 16, 2012.  The article is just written in a way to make it seem like this is an ongoing problem that the government has been aware of for many years and refuses to do something about it, which is not the case here.
 
2013-06-23 08:06:03 PM

burning_bridge: Peter von Nostrand: FTFA: Washington has apparently been aware of the problem for the better part of a decade.

And we're done here

And we're not, because you didn't read the rest.

That line is totally out of context.  What Washington has apparently known about is that the whole deal about issuing tax ID numbers to illegals to get them into compliance with tax law is a thing that happens.  This case of fraud is NOT something that's been known about for years but since this report mentioned in the article was put out on July 16, 2012.  The article is just written in a way to make it seem like this is an ongoing problem that the government has been aware of for many years and refuses to do something about it, which is not the case here.


Done
 
2013-06-23 08:07:58 PM
 
2013-06-23 08:12:47 PM
As a data analyst, one of the tricks I use is to open a file and sort it and look for visual patterns.  You would think someone would have noticed this.
I call BS.
 
2013-06-23 08:13:37 PM

SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.


This.  Was hoping they at least sourced a reputable news site, but instead it was "CNS News" -- whatever the fark that is.
 
2013-06-23 08:16:12 PM

spongeboob: Anybody else get this ad

Really kill blood pressure, me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.
/Could be both


There are ads on the internet?  I completely forgot about that.
 
2013-06-23 08:23:26 PM

Altair: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

This.  Was hoping they at least sourced a reputable news site, but instead it was "CNS News" -- whatever the fark that is.


It's the right news. Right now. Duh.

img.fark.net

Based on how they used quotes when they said Biden is "proud" of Obama, my guess is that CNS is frequented by my teabagger coworkers.
 
2013-06-23 08:24:35 PM
images.sodahead.com
 
2013-06-23 08:24:38 PM

vudukungfu: As a data analyst, one of the tricks I use is to open a file and sort it and look for visual patterns.  You would think someone would have noticed this.
I call BS.


You can't do that when you're dealing with millions of records.
 
2013-06-23 08:29:26 PM
No clicky. No $$ for you derpy-town.
 
2013-06-23 08:29:39 PM

SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.


I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.
 
2013-06-23 08:31:44 PM

fusillade762: I'm sure slashing the IRS's budget some more will fix the problem.


Shostie: Here's HuffingtonPost.com, which is the closest thing to a "real" news site I could find on this:

Thanks. Anyone notice the link on the sidebar?

Jihawg Ammo: Pork-laced Bullets Designed To Send Muslims Straight 'To Hell'

Have we had a thread on this one yet?


Oh FFS.....  And the comments... oh wow the comments.... >:(
 
2013-06-23 08:32:06 PM

spongeboob: Anybody else get this ad
[this.content.served.by.adshuffle.com image 300x250]


Really kill blood pressure, me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.
/Could be both


No.
It must be based on your cookies.
These ads are far more targeted than just the website you go to.

I got an ad for a European cruise.
 
2013-06-23 08:37:06 PM

jjorsett: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.


Ah.  Glenn Beck is a reliable and unbiased source of news?
*clicks ignore*
 
2013-06-23 08:38:28 PM

spongeboob: Anybody else get this ad



Really kill blood pressure, me thinks either the Blaze has stupid readers or advertisers who think Blaze readers are stupid.
/Could be both


Or Google has a low opinion of you.
 
2013-06-23 08:50:09 PM

jjorsett: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.


If the only two options are the New York Times and some deranged lunatic who wears tinfoil because it keeps the government out of his brainwaves AND thinks it fashionable, I'll go with the New York Times every time. But since in reality there are more options than the New York Times and the people who work over at The Blaze, I don't think your assumptions are warranted in the slightest.
 
2013-06-23 08:51:06 PM

Notabunny: Altair: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

This.  Was hoping they at least sourced a reputable news site, but instead it was "CNS News" -- whatever the fark that is.

It's the right news. Right now. Duh.

[img.fark.net image 440x84]

Based on how they used quotes when they said Biden is "proud" of Obama, my guess is that CNS is frequented by my teabagger coworkers.


You missed this beauty on the CNS News website:

CNSNews.com is not funded by the government like NPR. CNSNews.com is not funded by the government like PBS. CNSNews.com relies on individuals like you to help us report the news the liberal media distort and ignore. Please make a tax-deductible gift to CNSNews.com today. Your continued support will ensure that CNSNews.com is here reporting THE TRUTH, for a long time to come. It's fast, easy and secure.

As well as this:

img.fark.net

/Why are we taking this website seriously?
 
2013-06-23 08:53:45 PM

jjorsett: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.


Has CNS News been accurate about anything outside of the date in their articles?
 
2013-06-23 09:00:12 PM

Mrtraveler01: jjorsett: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.

Has CNS News been accurate about anything outside of the date in their articles?


Yes.
But you know that already.
 
2013-06-23 09:20:35 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Mrtraveler01: jjorsett: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.

Has CNS News been accurate about anything outside of the date in their articles?

Yes.
But you know that already.


Such as?
 
2013-06-23 09:25:19 PM
[conservative think]
I know what will stop the waste and fraud. Less government regulations and oversight! Because the people doing this will stop once the government completely stops trying to catch them.
[/conservative think]
 
2013-06-23 09:36:50 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: These ads are far more targeted than just the website you go to.

I got an ad for a European cruise.


Commie
 
2013-06-23 09:39:59 PM

djkutch: tenpoundsofcheese: These ads are far more targeted than just the website you go to.

I got an ad for a European cruise.

Commie


They ain't getting me.  Going to cruise Australia this year.
 
2013-06-23 10:08:52 PM

Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: Mrtraveler01: jjorsett: SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.

I'll bet it's comfortable to live in a world where if the New York Times doesn't report it, it didn't happen, though it must sting when occasionally  reality sneaks up on you and suddenly smacks you in the face.

Has CNS News been accurate about anything outside of the date in their articles?

Yes.
But you know that already.

Such as?


They MIGHT have the pagination correct, ya know.
 
2013-06-23 10:20:11 PM
So many pretty ads.

So someone at the Blaze was inspired by Snowden and leaked that the Blaze's Atlanta office had gotten $42M from the IRS, and the Blaze printed a denial that went bad, since they didn't check their own mail drop.
 
2013-06-23 10:31:43 PM

Shostie: Here's a PDF of what they're breathlessly pearl-clutching about


When tea partiers protest government spending, this is most often the crap they want to see gone.  Nobody wants private roads and militias.  They just want people to work honestly, pay taxes and not be able to file $46M in tax returns from a single address

BitwiseShift: So someone at the Blaze was inspired by Snowden and leaked that the Blaze's Atlanta office had gotten $42M from the IRS,


Or, you know, they published a report that is public record.

SphericalTime: Huh. If this is a real thing I can't wait to read about it on a real news site.


you do know that their source is the actual treasury audit report right?  The blaze could post a video, speech, or facsimile of an actual document and you mouth-breathers would say, "Hurr, Durrr, Blaze. Didn't happen"

gottagopee: Ah.  Glenn Beck is a reliable and unbiased source of news?


So you're charging that they fabricated this report?
 
2013-06-23 10:35:29 PM
So we should ignore all the groups fraudlently filing as social advocacy groups so we can focus on other fraudsters... fark that, throw em all in jail.
 
2013-06-23 10:53:24 PM

Befuddled: I know what will stop the waste and fraud. Less government regulations and oversight!


Here's what happens with oversight. It's not sexy. If the people doing the oversight are doing their jobs right, they're going to step on powerful people's toes - who will see too it that the oversight office can't (or won't) do its job.

2005: NY Times does an expose on the New York state Medicaid program, and finds, without too much difficulty, fraud all over the place - including one dentist who billed the state and was paid for performing 991 procedures in one day. The articles' estimate of straight-up theft from the program came to a lowball figure of 10%, plus another 10-30% wasted. $4-5 billion a year in fraud. In one state, in one year.

Supposedly, after that debacle there was greater 'oversight'. Except there wasn't.

2010: Poughkeepsie Journal does an expose on the state Medicaid program, showing that the state had been billing Medicaid (and was paid) over $5000 per developmentally disabled patient per day at one state mental health facility, when no other state was billing more than $1200 or so. The total overbilling by New York came to $15 billion dollars over the years. Where'd the extra money go? It sure as shiat didn't go to the developmentally disabled. The ripoff was so blatant that even the Democrats on the House committee that oversees Medicaid had to agree with (chairman) Darrell Issa and call bullshiat on New York.

Supposedly, after that debacle there was greater 'oversight'. Except there wasn't.

The state's Office of Medicaid Inspector General, the ones who are supposed to watch Medicaid for fraud, has been such a politicized clusterfark that now they're being audited by the state comptroller's office.

What stops people from ripping off the government is one thing - a smaller government that has less available to steal in the first place. Thieves go where the money is - and lately the thieves have done quite nicely bouncing back and forth between the private sector and the various tentacles of the federal government. Exhibit A: Jon Corzine.

This phenomenon might be lessened a bit with what I call a "forbidden city" law - take a job as a government regulator, you can't jump to a job in the industry you regulate for X years. Jump from the private sector to government, you can't take a gig where you could influence your former employer, either as a legislator or as a regulator. In the highly unlikely event a regulator or (more likely) a legislator is unemployable outside the public sector, I have no problem giving them an advance on their pension for X years.
 
2013-06-23 10:59:14 PM

o5iiawah: you do know that their source is the actual treasury audit report right?  The blaze could post a video, speech, or facsimile of an actual document and you mouth-breathers would say, "Hurr, Durrr, Blaze. Didn't happen"


Then maybe they should post the source and we'll see what people say. Until I've got something other than "crazed idiot's website said so", this didn't happen.
 
2013-06-23 11:04:44 PM

thurstonxhowell: o5iiawah: you do know that their source is the actual treasury audit report right?  The blaze could post a video, speech, or facsimile of an actual document and you mouth-breathers would say, "Hurr, Durrr, Blaze. Didn't happen"

Then maybe they should post the source and we'll see what people say. Until I've got something other than "crazed idiot's website said so", this didn't happen.


They did post the source.  it is linked within the article that people refuse to click because HURRR DURRRRR

Good God, are people this stupid?
 
2013-06-23 11:25:51 PM
Would I be way off base that the report is being misinterpreted?
 
2013-06-23 11:30:25 PM
The IRS was afraid of making a scene:  47,000 Democratic Voters are registered at the same house.
 
2013-06-23 11:31:32 PM

theknuckler_33: Would I be way off base that the report is being misinterpreted?


Well, the story of the $46 million in refunds going to the same address is true; it's one of the examples of fraud listed in the report.

Where things go derpy is that The Blaze is trying to make it sound like the IRS is too busy oppressing Tea Party Patriots to stop sending fake refunds to blah people, or that they don't care.  Well, obviously, they care, since they reported this themselves.  And even in his craziest moments, even Issa wouldn't say that the Tea Party stuff involved more than a handful of IRS employees.  So The Blaze uses this real story for some pretty ugly race baiting.
 
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