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(Opposing Views)   Woman who had a nose job is suing her nose job surgeon for $23 million because thanks to his nose job surgery website everyone now knows that she had a nose job. Nose job   (opposingviews.com) divider line 73
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2013-06-23 06:08:07 PM
Does making fun of attention whores like this fall into the bullying category?
 
2013-06-23 06:14:42 PM
The woman said she did not give permission to use pre- and post-op photos on his website when she had surgery at his Manhattan office in 2010.

I'll bet a dollar she did give permission but didn't realize it because she didn't read all of those papers she signed.  Ain't nobody got time for that!
 
2013-06-23 06:15:31 PM

namatad: Does making fun of attention whores like this fall into the bullying category?


No, it's fine. Carry on.

That said, she does seem to have a valid point. Doubt it's worth $23M but you may as well aim high.
 
2013-06-23 06:15:44 PM
Woman Sues Doctor Who Performed Nose Job For $23 Million DollarsI don't blame her.  That's a lot of money for a simple rhinoplasty.
 
2013-06-23 06:17:08 PM
Manizone said her reputation is damaged and that she has been exposed "to public ridicule and contempt."

Bullshiat. Nobody even knew about it until she brought it to everyones attention. Now had someone else found it and she heard about it through the grapevine, then she might have a case.
 
2013-06-23 06:17:35 PM

Jument: That said, she does seem to have a valid point. Doubt it's worth $23M but you may as well aim high.


Yeah, doing that without permission is a HIPAA violation. It's worth something... but not anywhere near that.
 
2013-06-23 06:17:55 PM
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of plastic surgeons? Only Catherine Manizone's nose knows.
 
2013-06-23 06:18:51 PM
Subby, perhaps you missed the point that her name is Catherine Manizone.

And this is her picture.
www.opposingviews.com
 
2013-06-23 06:18:58 PM
Assuming that's a post-op picture, she got a cute nose.  I'm not generally a fan of plastic surgery, but that doc apparently does good work.
 
2013-06-23 06:19:05 PM
So does that mean all the attention and publicity and the fact she had a nose job will be paraded around in the court, in the papers, on the web... will she come back and sue the judge or the lawyers for making a fact nobody cared about, EXTRA public information now?

Our court system is already so F'd -- the best thing that could happen is she gets laughed out of the courtroom -- worst, the whore wins and causes all of us to pay more taxes/insurance/etc.

Would love to see her require some major surgery but no surgeon would be willing to work on her for fear of getting sued, not getting whatever operation she needed and then dies, cleaning the gene pool of "stupid".
 
2013-06-23 06:20:05 PM
ughh.com
 
2013-06-23 06:20:15 PM
Ttiwwop.
 
2013-06-23 06:20:54 PM
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-23 06:21:34 PM
img.fark.net
 
2013-06-23 06:23:44 PM
i.imgur.com

approves!
 
2013-06-23 06:24:39 PM
One of my coworkers had a nose job. Leading up to it, she would talk about it, the doctor etc. During one of these conversations I made a comment about how I would have to get used to her different look. She turned to me, horrified, "I don't want to look DIFFERENT!"

She didn't end up looking that different, but it's not her nose that's the problem. It's her massive chin.
 
2013-06-23 06:27:34 PM

jtown: The woman said she did not give permission to use pre- and post-op photos on his website when she had surgery at his Manhattan office in 2010.

I'll bet a dollar she did give permission but didn't realize it because she didn't read all of those papers she signed.  Ain't nobody got time for that!


Pretty much this.  That would be a HUGE oversight on the part of the surgeon's office.  On the off chance she actually didn't give permission, then I'd assume it was a clerical error.

/But it's much more likely she's an attention whore and/or her attorney is an attention whore.
 
2013-06-23 06:27:41 PM

farkingismybusiness:


Funny she dosn't look Drewish
 
2013-06-23 06:28:06 PM
Bet cha she signed permission. Really need to read what you sign.
 
2013-06-23 06:29:10 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Subby, perhaps you missed the point that her name is Catherine Manizone.

And this is her picture.
[www.opposingviews.com image 301x251]


I'm assuming that's the post op pic?  It looks good.
 
2013-06-23 06:29:59 PM
She said she had the surgery to "to improve her appearance, self-esteem and confidence," but some of her confidence was shattered when she saw the before and after shots were public.

I don't understand this. Did she get surgery and then never leave the house so that none of her family and friends would know she had a nose job? Someone please explain.
 
2013-06-23 06:32:27 PM

Fish in a Barrel: Assuming that's a post-op picture, she got a cute nose.  I'm not generally a fan of plastic surgery, but that doc apparently does good work.


Its pretty much the oldest plastic surgery (if we don't count prosthetics), it's been around for hundreds of years. It was used to restore noses of people who lost them to various reasons (certain cancers, duels, horrific legal punishments). I think the procedure originated in the middle east, during europe's dark ages...but I'd have to look it up.

But that's why the procedure is generally one of the better ones you can have done. Where you see horror shows, it's because people have had too many revisions (Michael Jackson) or they had complications or a shiatty surgeon.

I don't like most plastic surgery personally but I've had a few friends who had nose jobs, and for all of them without exception, it made them MUCH happier with their appearance. If it makes people feel better about themselves and isn't harmful...cool beans I say.

And she has a point that the pics shouldn't be up there unless she signed a release. THAT being said, what are her actual damages? Emotional boo hooing? Unless she can demonstrate that others without prompting are finding these pics and it's having an adverse impact (even if that's just emotional) she doesn't seem to have much of a case. She can ding him for using her without permission or compensation. And for being upset it was available. She can argue that it's searchable in the future I suppose too. But you have to have actual *damages*.

And I'm sure they'll argue 'before' pictures of her are already available in the public domain (yearbooks, any newspaper pics, etc.). She ain't getting even a million. But the doc's insurance may want to settle it. /shrug
 
2013-06-23 06:33:01 PM
She's got a shyster lawyer and is looking for some ridiculous settlement. If the surgeon didn't have her permission he's going to have to fork over some cash, but her asking price is laughable. The fact that she's publicly suing this guy pretty much proves that her self-esteem and confidence haven't suffered all that much.
 
2013-06-23 06:34:26 PM
At least now her potential suitors will know their potential offspring will be getting huge nose genes.
 
2013-06-23 06:35:07 PM
It's so perfect that this example of the Streisand Effect is about the censoring of a nose.
 
Xai
2013-06-23 06:38:18 PM
but why $23m? do americans just have random figures that they spout out when sueing somebody?
 
2013-06-23 06:41:12 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-23 06:42:06 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Subby, perhaps you missed the point that her name is Catherine Manizone.

And this is her picture.
[www.opposingviews.com image 301x251]


I'd hit it.
 
2013-06-23 06:42:39 PM
So, she didn't want anyone to nose she had a nose job?

But she blabbed to the press and now everyone nose?

When will it end? Goodness nose....

...I'll let myself out :P
 
2013-06-23 06:44:03 PM

Xai: but why $23m? do americans just have random figures that they spout out when sueing somebody?


Yes. Yes we do. Doesn't everybody?
 
2013-06-23 06:44:05 PM
Somebody should explain to this girl that any plastic surgery on the face is going to obvious to everyone as plain as the nose on her face.
 
2013-06-23 06:50:00 PM

BlousyBrown: She said she had the surgery to "to improve her appearance, self-esteem and confidence," but some of her confidence was shattered when she saw the before and after shots were public.

I don't understand this. Did she get surgery and then never leave the house so that none of her family and friends would know she had a nose job? Someone please explain.


Yeah, it's not like people aren't going to notice. I mean, I thought that was the point.


harm dealer: It's so perfect that this example of the Streisand Effect is about the censoring of a nose.


Also this.
 
2013-06-23 06:50:10 PM
MR. BIG NOSE:Don't you swear at my wife.
MR. CHEEKY:  I was only asking her to shut up, so I can hear what he's saying, Big Nose.
MRS. BIG NOSE:  Don't you call my husband 'Big Nose'!
MR. CHEEKY:  Well, he has got a big nose.
GREGORY:  Could you be quiet, please?
JESUS:  They shall have the earth...
GREGORY:  What was that?
JESUS:  ...for their possession. How blest are those...
MR. CHEEKY:  I don't know. I was too busy talking to Big Nose.
JESUS:  ...who hunger and thirst to see...
MAN #1:  I think it was 'Blessed are the cheesemakers.'
JESUS:  ...right prevail.
MRS. GREGORY:  Ahh, what's so special about the cheesemakers?
GREGORY:  Well, obviously, this is not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.
MR. CHEEKY:  See? If you hadn't been going on, we'd have heard that, Big Nose.
JESUS:  How blest are those who...
MR. BIG NOSE:Hey. Say that once more; I'll smash your bloody face in.
MRS. GREGORY:  Ohh.
MR. CHEEKY:  Better keep listening. Might be a bit about 'Blessed are the big noses.'
BRIAN:Oh, lay off him.
 
2013-06-23 06:58:26 PM
Maybe she was just sick of being associated with a rapey Black Panther?

img.fark.net
 
2013-06-23 07:01:02 PM

Xai: but why $23m? do americans just have random figures that they spout out when sueing somebody?


It's generally a tactic to force a settlement. They're trying to scare the doctor's insurance company into throwing some cash on the table to avoid the potential risk of a huge payout. In this case I would suggest they over played it a bit.

/Americans didn't invent tort law but they've taken it to new and exciting heights
 
2013-06-23 07:02:31 PM

skinink: Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of plastic surgeons? Only Catherine Manizone's nose knows.


And it's there two minutes early wherever she goes.
 
2013-06-23 07:03:58 PM

jtown: The woman said she did not give permission to use pre- and post-op photos on his website when she had surgery at his Manhattan office in 2010.

I'll bet a dollar she did give permission but didn't realize it because she didn't read all of those papers she signed.  Ain't nobody got time for that!


What do you base this on? Do surgeons normally throw a publicity disclaimer into the paperwork?
 
2013-06-23 07:05:55 PM
static.giantbomb.com

Knows Jobs. Or knew I guess.
 
2013-06-23 07:06:41 PM

Chafed Willi: Maybe she was just sick of being associated with a rapey Black Panther?

[img.fark.net image 850x727]


Of course, "kill whitey" tattoo guy was one of the black panther guys outside of the Philadelphia polling station in 2008 that Obama and Holder dropped the charges against.  What a fine individual.
 
2013-06-23 07:06:42 PM
Everybody knows her nose is loaded
Everybody knows that it's gone askew
Everybody knows that surgery is called for-
even though it might take a visit or two

No gynecologist can solve this problem
and a neurosurgeon just won't do
The problems a proboscis maximus can pose
Catherine Manizone knows

Manizone's nose
Manizone's nose
It's a little bit bigger
but that's the way it grows..
 
2013-06-23 07:23:52 PM

jtown: The woman said she did not give permission to use pre- and post-op photos on his website when she had surgery at his Manhattan office in 2010.

I'll bet a dollar she did give permission but didn't realize it because she didn't read all of those papers she signed.  Ain't nobody got time for that!


This would be my guess, those consent forms are usually pretty comprehensive.
 
2013-06-23 07:26:56 PM

Knucklepopper: jtown: The woman said she did not give permission to use pre- and post-op photos on his website when she had surgery at his Manhattan office in 2010.

I'll bet a dollar she did give permission but didn't realize it because she didn't read all of those papers she signed.  Ain't nobody got time for that!

What do you base this on? Do surgeons normally throw a publicity disclaimer into the paperwork?


I base it on logic.  Cosmetic surgeons need to be able to show potential clients examples of their work.  Where do you think they get all those before and after photos?  They get them from their patients who have authorized the use of those photos.

How did they get post-op photos without her permission?  Post-op photos certainly aren't needed for the procedure.  It's already done.  Yet she went back to the office long after the operation and sat there while post-op pictures were taken.

So, now that I've spent 38 seconds thinking about it, her case is even worse.
 
2013-06-23 07:27:39 PM

Fish in a Barrel: Assuming that's a post-op picture, she got a cute nose.  I'm not generally a fan of plastic surgery, but that doc apparently does good work.


It's difficult to get a "fixed" nose that looks that good and stays looking that good since noses continue to grow throughout your life.

A friend had her nose made smaller at 22 and looked great. Now 52, her nose looks odd and really needs a touch-up

OtherLittleGuy: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 310x295]


JenniferGrey.jpg

Not good nose job for Ms. Grey; too big a change.

And might as well add

img.fark.net

Plastic surgery tragedy. Hot before; hideous after.
 
2013-06-23 07:53:56 PM
FTA: Manizone said her reputation is damaged and that she has been exposed "to public ridicule and contempt."

Well, I'm sure this move will help her reputation, and there's no chance she'll be exposed to ridicule and contempt by all the people who now know she had a nose job but didn't know before.
 
2013-06-23 07:56:53 PM
I guess the doctor didn't read the fine print on her check that required him to delete every preexisting picture of her nose before surgery.
 
2013-06-23 07:58:44 PM
We need a law to protect against unnecessary nose jobs.  I vote to call it: "Jennifer's Law"
 
2013-06-23 08:10:05 PM

OtherLittleGuy: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 310x295]


Yeah, she really blew it
 
2013-06-23 08:15:20 PM
img.fark.net

The wit in this thread flows like molasses.

/ just leave the name 'Jowls' ... I'll know.
 
2013-06-23 08:26:29 PM
I don't believe the US has a deportation agreement with Gallifrey, Perhaps he'll just scoot back there
 
2013-06-23 08:28:16 PM

jtown: Knucklepopper: jtown: The woman said she did not give permission to use pre- and post-op photos on his website when she had surgery at his Manhattan office in 2010.

I'll bet a dollar she did give permission but didn't realize it because she didn't read all of those papers she signed.  Ain't nobody got time for that!

What do you base this on? Do surgeons normally throw a publicity disclaimer into the paperwork?

I base it on logic.  Cosmetic surgeons need to be able to show potential clients examples of their work.  Where do you think they get all those before and after photos?  They get them from their patients who have authorized the use of those photos.

How did they get post-op photos without her permission?  Post-op photos certainly aren't needed for the procedure.  It's already done.  Yet she went back to the office long after the operation and sat there while post-op pictures were taken.

So, now that I've spent 38 seconds thinking about it, her case is even worse.


Post op pics are standard for liability insurance purposes.  If whackado patient doesn't like the results, one of the first complaints is usually, "I was charged for a procedure that was never done."  Standard permission to treat forms will almost always have a release included for records, which may include but are not limited to photos, x-rays, etc. and will allow for submission and/or publication to professional journals, insurance companies, licensing boards, etc.  This patient has no idea exactly how many places her nose has been viewed.  if she was smart, she would mark through the parts of the release, initial the changes, and hope the doc didn't catch her changes.
 
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